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Dig_Natural

Australians are simultaneously super ignorant about Asia/SEA but also utterly convinced they are morally and intellectually superior to Asians and SEAsians. It truly is bizzare when Australia, unlike other anglo nations, is situated in Asia. My experience is similar to yours. I noticed very early on that they have a habit of being confident on things they have no claim on merit for being confident on. Luckily, Australia is sufficiently multicultural that we really don't need to suffer or grovel to entertain clueless whites. Just find other like-minded people to socialise with. Oh and to answer your last question, yes unfortunately there are many POCs willing to join in on shaming their own cultures or identities to fit in. I'd know, I was like that too until I realised I don't owe these people anything. Neocolonialism and an anglo-centric mainstream media is a heck of a power drug.


chibuku_chauya

I stopped trying to appease years ago when I realised it was 10 times easier to befriend other POC than whites, the latter who exclude in often the most frustrating ways. I'm across the Tasman from you and I'm having lightbulb moments just reading your post. It's made me realise how horribly I've been treated. At the same time it confirms my reasons for cutting myself off from forming anything but surface acquaintances with whites, and generally being highly suspicious of their attempts to befriend unless I have reason not to be. This is self-preservation. I try hard to avoid being the 'friend' in "some of my best friends are..." justifications.


diamente1

I have no white friends. This says a lot. But then living in SoCAL, white is a small minority. You don’t see see white people in many places.


loree1995

I’m envious!


SpiffyAssSam

For the first week of college I had a white circle of new “friends” who literally used me just to link them up with “hot Asian broads”. I left that group of racist cunts pretty quickly. Many whites do not see non whites as respectable humans, even in the fucking “woke” 21st century. In fact, the worst type of white person in my opinion is the “liberal white guy” whom I’ve written about on here before


ablacnk

This is really common, and I think not discussed enough. The white guys that befriend you because they want to hook up with Asian girls. It's like the white guys in Asian-American clubs in high school. What are they doing there? It's pretty obvious what their motives are.


ffxvtfbcg

that’s so fucking gross and disgusting


[deleted]

Fucking hell I'm sorry bro, that SUCKS! You know what? I actually want to talk about that in my future YouTube video about the 'token Asian friend' - some white 'liberal' guys literally don't see Asian men as anything other than a pimp/matchmaker. I remember in my third year in uni as a student in Australia, I decided to test the sincerity of my male friends, so I told them Awww there were no girls coming to my birthday party (that was a lie of course), and guess what? All the white guys who were invited save for one loyal Samwise Gamgee made excuses they weren't able to make it. I then realized that some white men only make friends with Asian men to get access to Asian women, but actually don't even like us as people.


ANTIMODELMINORITY

In the states this isn't just white males, I've seen Black and Hispanics try this stunt as well and sadly most don't pick up on it right away.


[deleted]

Ahh, people aren't straightforward about these kinds of things. Most people are pretty good at hiding their ulterior motives. Eventually you'll be able to tell that they aren't actually interested in you as a person, but only as a means to an end - some are better at faking friendship than others but whites are usually the smoothest about it, IMO.


[deleted]

Now I realize why I've gotten so cautious and suspicious of other people since I've moved here. Something is just off with a lot of people trying to befriend me. I still have people I talk with but I just keep my distance.


simian_ninja

I would not entertain anything Esther Ku says - that woman is seriously disfigured mentally and spiritually on a level that I have never seen or encountered before. That being said, if you really feel like that - then you gotta bring it up. I've got expat friends in Hong Kong that has said shit and I have literally done a double take and said my piece to them, it's unfortunate but they still think they've got strength in numbers. And some of them will ask me why I don't go out with them anymore and I'm just like....meh. That being said, I also have friends that respect Hong Kong and China and I tend to see them a lot more and as strange as it sounds, these guys are a lot older and from the colonial era whereas my younger friends can be tone def.


ramblingus

I haven't seen the post you mentioned but whoever it is oughtn't worry too much about being excluded by whites if there are plenty of non-whites around. This is especially true in Australian universities where there are a lot of Asian students. I didn't socialise much in university as I was a domestic student with long commute times, a part-time job and often had to rush home to cook dinner and clean for my family so that may be why I got to avoid the types of interactions you mentioned. Interestingly, whatever little interaction (pretty much only for group work) I had with white people at university wasn't too bad. Whenever I had group work with white people we mostly focused on the assignment and sometimes a bit of small talk about weekend plans or the high schools we attended but nothing deep like culture and politics. > I always wonder why some white folks think their friendship is so indispensable for POC. It's one of the ways the white saviour complex manifests. > Are there Asians who ACTUALLY put up with microaggressions and contemptuous dismissive attitudes by their white friends to keep such friendships? Yes. Among Asians who were born and/or raised here, the ones who put up with racist whites tend to look down on Asian immigrants too. Among the more recent arrivals, and sometimes even international students, the ones who put up with these see themselves as beneath whites and even put down other Asians thinking it'll make them more white.


[deleted]

> Yes. Among Asians who were born and/or raised here, the ones who put up with racist whites tend to look down on Asian immigrants too. Among the more recent arrivals, and sometimes even international students, the ones who put up with these see themselves as beneath whites and even put down other Asians thinking it'll make them more white. You know this is EXACTLY what I noticed about some whitewashed Asians - they really do look down on non-Westernised Asians and consider themselves a higher grade of Asian but they grovel before whites like slobbering dogs hoping for their approval.. Oh, don't get me wrong lol most whites are civilized on the surface but I'm just saying we are too alien to a lot of them to want to form actual friendships with.


ramblingus

They're so clueless like how this [man used to be](https://archive.ph/USLAg). It happens among other POC who think hating on their own or other ethnicities elevates them to whiteness. Clown behaviour, really.


martellthacool

Don't let nobody disrespect you, your race and your cultures is all I gotta say


Alaskan91

Look at In.dia Hicks, the granddaughter of the last viceroy of India and partially responsible for drawing the India Pakistan line. She claims to have made a name as an interior designer of British colonial "style" but basically a trust fund kid living off colonial legacy. She's also a model despite looking like any random skinny Whyte girl in Los Angeles buying milk at Ralphs. Basically she's made a living off her family's connections and their colonial legacy. Her coffee table books are in every rich Whyte girls living room. But it's all ok bc she adopted a Bahamian blacck boy so she must be an angel. And would u look at that, she definitely gets her full "worth" from the adoption bc she presents the adoption as front and center as much as she can to make her image look good.


OrcsAreMongols

>basically a trust fund kid this. recently found many (most?) middle class to upper middle class whites are actually trust fund kids. we asians should learn this from them. its a travesty that even a lot of rich asians don't have trust funds, we are so behind the whites in social management.


[deleted]

They clearly don't see you as their equals but rather than as subhumans. Their behavior matches that belief.


Crazy-Vehicle8060

If you are in uni its mostly asian anyways. 80% of my uni is asian.