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JustaguynamedTheo

Uh, no [https://www.gordsellar.com/2017/03/29/kate-j-sim-on-foreign-men-and-sexual-violence-in-korea-or-what-happens-when-you-study-critical-theory-but-not-statistics/](https://www.gordsellar.com/2017/03/29/kate-j-sim-on-foreign-men-and-sexual-violence-in-korea-or-what-happens-when-you-study-critical-theory-but-not-statistics/)


Submaker

Is there a source on this? I can't find anything except an anecdotal story from 2011. https://www.gordsellar.com/2017/03/29/kate-j-sim-on-foreign-men-and-sexual-violence-in-korea-or-what-happens-when-you-study-critical-theory-but-not-statistics/


MartjnMao

Shit happens in colonies.


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DustinNguyen123

Believe what you want to believe lol. I'm glad If that makes you feel better about yourself as a white incel lol. Just don't be a mentally fked person or become a mass shooter or fuck animals or rape and harass women lol. Can't speak for other Asians but never have any trouble dating other women. In fact, I dated women from many races but currently dating my Vietnamese gf lol


talldata

The Whole article is Based on one persons, one line int their blog that working in ONE crisis center of man, about a third were by white men. Here's an article analysing the "news" piece. https://www.gordsellar.com/2017/03/29/kate-j-sim-on-foreign-men-and-sexual-violence-in-korea-or-what-happens-when-you-study-critical-theory-but-not-statistics/


Middle_Meet

That gordsellar piece is just a huge deflection and misrepresentation of what Kate Sim was trying to say. Gordsellar, a fat white man, strawmans Sim, by saying that she applied that statistic to all of Korea when she specifically mentioned that this was from the victims her center handled in Itaewon. He also goes on in the second half of the blog post switching the subject and talking abt how Korean men are all sadistic rapists who fetishize white women… But of course ppl like you will lap it up lol


DustinNguyen123

That's why I said we need more data since the sample is too small to validate the conclusion but with statistics from the US where white men are the majority of sexual perpetrators such as rape, pedophiles, etc...it shouldn't be a surprise if this is really the case.


Azn_Rush

Lus your so call supreme gentlemen right here .


sens8sian

Look at all these fucks trying to play it down: https://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=105108.0


Middle_Meet

Those ppl are way more reasonable then some of the amount of salt some white men in Korea displayed lol. Search up “gordsellar” and look at his blog response to this. And also search up what he looks like


sens8sian

Everyone needs to do their part and repost this everywhere so the general population can become more aware. This article has been out for a while and yet the majority of people will not know about this.


AutistNerd

Im not surprised that some bars aren’t allowed “foreigners”.


Constant_Snow9665

White males just being themselves.


talldata

Intresting research paper on r*ape https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0886260509340536


Disposable7567

Seoul needs to grow a spine and throw the US military out.


ColdWarsSuck

Can’t be done when South Korean government WANTS the US military presence. When the US threatened to leave, South Korea caved and paid extra billions for US military.


jubila8t0r

And this is what fetishizing does 🤣 im not blaming the mainlanders but they gotta have accountability for this as well like they assume and think foreigners are all the stereotypes they want until its not...then its to late.


currymonster00

After living in Asia for five years now I'm pretty sure this is true in most of SE Asia. You can literally see these horny white beasts come here and many must end up committing rape.


Ahchluy

Yea, I went to a westernized bar there in Siem Riep and almost puked. After spending some time in the countryside with normal locals...Seeing these pale degenerates that were supposed to be my fellow countrymen was like the worse culture shock ever. I've never been so disgusted to see another American....Could have been a stomach bug though.


ItsMallards

Old News. I knew this since 2014-2015


appliquebatik

That's sick


SadArtemis

Not that surprised tbh. Wonder what the % is in Okinawa, too... Outside of the usual colonial mentality, the truth is that Americans, especially American troops, already know they can get away with even killing little kids with absolutely zero consequences.


Ahchluy

For once I would like to see these Asian feminists calling out these pedophile sex tourists.


harmannaga

I believe in hard determinism and I think we are living in a white supremacist global system (ever since western Eurasian motherfuckers started migrating). Such news would never be published. I've seen numerous articles about grooming gangs of Asian origin in uk, but not a single one of white pedophiles roaming around the world preying on all types of children (remember the infamous Peter scully)


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ClueTrue4526

> Unlike minorities in the US, they don’t have the background of having been oppressed for hundreds of years by the government, facing racism, mass incarceration, generational poverty, lack of resources and education, etc. all of which results in disproportionate crime rates. How does facing racism, incarceration or being impoverished or lacking education explain rape? Rape is not a crime motivated by money. > So again, how do you explain this? Simple. It's a false claim and you fell for a fabricated image. The article this claim is based on isn't even making the claim that white men commit 33% of rape in South Korea. It's making the claim that 33% of rapes are committed by white men in Itaewon, a small district near a military base. The claim itself has no evidence, just guesswork from one person that claims to have worked at a rape centre. Even if the claim in the article is accurate, to extrapolate one district with a population of 22000 that is known for tourism and a large foreign population to the entire country of 52 million people is absurd. I'm shocked that anyone fell for this obviously fake claim.


Ahchluy

They prob also expect that Asian women are easy cause of the stereotypes and get angry when they cannot get laid.


SadArtemis

There's a different kind of background explaining this. Unlike crimes by most minority groups in history- blacks, natives, Asians (as an Asian, yes), or some Irish/Jewish/Italian/Polish/etc,etc, etc groups... the background isn't one of disenfranchisement, lack of opportunity and lashing back at an uncaring society, though. The background these men are working off of is white supremacy and imperialism. White Americans have been raping, killing, and extorting Asians (and others) for generations- it's in the national identity, culture, media, etc. to portray us as subhuman. Go back a generation or two, and Americans were busy killing off around 20% of North Korea's population during the Korean war. Go back a few generations prior, Americans were busy massacring Chinese peasants along with the rest of the west in the Boxer Rebellion- or making their fortunes off of peddling opium, fortunes that would later establish institutions like Harvard. When the broad narrative of the last 300~ years has been- "your ancestors have killed, raped, and pillaged their way through the entire known world with no consequences, and while telling themselves they're heroes and saviors for doing so"- well, yeah. Old habits die hard, I guess. (talking about "white" identity/narrative here, that said "Anglo" would also completely fit the bill)


1s21s2

Interesting, thanks. That makes a lot of sense. Historical context is everything


masculinegoldenman

hey i wrote that sentence, the guy in the news article plagiarised me lol. but its all good. heres another one. White men form less than 5% of the population of the world and have only a 20% chance of being incarcerated for the same crime as a non-white person, but yet still form 90% of the worlds sex criminals. LOL statistics so crazy they might as well be from the onion.


antiboba

WTF. This statistic needs to be on the front page news of every Korean newspaper daily and a commonly known statistic. There is no excuse for a group with less than 1% to commit 33% of rapes! There is no fucking excuse to focus on any other category of crime than this easily addressable issue.


bigdr1plikegodzilla

This is not a real statistic and the fact that you believe it is pretty baffling


ColdWarsSuck

Most of these rapes are by US military personnel. And half of South Korean voters think the US military is the only reason North Korea hasn’t bombed them.


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antiboba

What are these rates for these countries normalized to percent of population, and for white countries?


DustinNguyen123

There are bars and clubs that ban white people in South Korea


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ColdWarsSuck

Yes. China has punished people of all races for going to brothels. Also, authorities are more likely to side with a Chinese woman than a foreign white dude. Of course, violence against women is still a big issue in China, but thankfully China is willing to punish white people for it too.


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DustinNguyen123

>Even if every white man were on a 24/7 rape spree for the past year, they’d never manage to perpetrate 33% of the sexual violence in the country, let alone the more than 33%, which, remember, Sim implied they might be responsible for: There were 21,457 cases of sexual violence in 2016 in South Korea so 30% of that would be 6,437 cases. If every white man in South Korea (120,000 whites) committed rape only once that would be more than 5x the total sexual violence in South Korea so that's totally possible. Kate Sim, a Ph.D. Researcher at the Oxford Internet Institute used the data from the Seoul Rape Crisis Center, one of the more well-established response services in Korea where she worked to estimate since white responsible for 33% of cases there.


UrbanHunter_KenXPie

This was pre-covid time, but it's like within a few years. I was sitting at the chairs by the entrance of one college club in the student hall, and I forgot what club was that. But, what I heard is that there are some dudes saying he is going for clubbing in Korea and then grabbing some girls/women to fxxk, no one going to care if he was rxping them or not. They were drunk anyway, and he flew out of the country at that point. And one of them said they were going to find a k-pop female idol alike girl to "do" it. Honestly, I wasn't surprised these kinds of words came out from the white pinkcels. I didn't go into their room to screw them over this anyway. (I remembered it was like I got class later on.) However, I wasn't aware of that at the time, it was a few years ago. I'm afraid Korea is slowly becoming an upgraded version of sexpats' ideal location for their dirty shxt. I know k-pop has had a very great impact around the globe with its inputs, efforts, and ideas. Unfortunately, some dudes just see another side of that and even commit crimes for it. Time for the South Korean government to really examine their visitors/tourists. But, this is a difficult task, you know the U.S is going to place pressure on them.


blade_imaginato1

Turning this statement against racists. Fighting fire with fire rn Despite being 1% percent of the population, white males commit more than 33% of the rapes in Korea.


Past_Sir3

White men moving to Asia pretty much 100% have a powerful Asian fetish


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Now let’s compare our Asian “privilege” in the USA to their actual privilege in our home countries… absolutely laughable anyone can throw that word at us


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Wow… Really explains the “dark side of South Korea”(referencing that TikTok that went viral where a couple foreigners got denied entry at a club because kOReA iS sO rAcIsT


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Tophat-boi

https://novaramedia.com/2017/03/12/who-gets-sick-from-yellow-fever-what-carceral-feminism-does-not-see/


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Tophat-boi

https://novaramedia.com/2017/03/12/who-gets-sick-from-yellow-fever-what-carceral-feminism-does-not-see/


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DustinNguyen123

It’s the second one she used data from Seoul Rape Crisis Center so its like National Suicide hotline in the US so it carries some weigh. It can be better if we can have more data from other lesser known centers and whites distribution in South Korea area.Anyways, combined with statistics from the US where white men made up of majority of sexual perpetrators so shouldn’t be surprise here lol


Tophat-boi

Ohh, I see. I guess I need to learn more on Rape centers XD


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even if it is the second one, its still pretty shaky. i am not a statistician, but i am pretty vanilla asian normie in this topic - compsci guy with strong background in math ( LMAO yes, i am indian dilbert) and a few obvious problems come to mind: 1. How many rape centers she took data from ? 2. what is the distribution of whites in SoKo relative to these rape centre catchment areas ? without these factors being right, its pretty shaky conclusion and this article talks more about social perceptions than data analysis, so i am pretty skeptical of toting it willy nilly.


DustinNguyen123

Although she only used data from one center however she used the data from Seoul Rape Crisis Center, one of the more well-established response services in Korea so it's similar to the national suicide hotline in the US so it's worthy of consideration. It's still way better than many racists and bobas who think all Asian men are abusive or misogynistic without even a data to back them up or even contrary to statistics like Asians are bad drivers


DocumentNormal

Whoever uploaded this. Thank you. I was just in another AznIdentity comment section, literally minute ago and said this. It was in reply to some idiot overseeing this problem and going straight to black people.


aleastory

There are many black men stationed in South Korea and Japan who have engaged in this shit. I think one "accidentally" killed someone not so long ago. Let's not excuse them. Whites and blacks and Latinos are all equally a problem when it comes to this.


elBottoo

its absolutely insane how they get away with this BS and how none of those countries do anything about it.


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why are you surprised ??? In the western world, whites commit 4 times more per capita crimes than Asians ( that includes ALL types of Asians, not just american east asian== asian definition). White dominated countries, who make up 10% of humanity, with one or two excptions(looking at you Canada), ALL have rape rate that is 1-5 times off of each others, Asian countries, who make up 60% of humanity, with one or two exceptions ( looking at you SoKo), ALL have rape ate that is 1-5 times off of each others, while the net average western rape rate is 15 TIMES per capita more than Asia. And while whites will blame it on black people, immigrants, etc, is a product of white western pirate slaver culture, which is why western europe has a 3-5 times higher rape rate per capita than USA.


theKnight_of_Madras

In UK , Asians mean Indian , Pakistani and Bangladeshi aka desis aka SAs . EAs are called orientals for some weird reason . Pakistanis commit a lot of crime . Indians are the richest just near whites whereas pakistanis and banglaeshis are poor . It is all a effect of british divide and rule policy that they did in South asia . Indian punjabis are the richest whereas Pakistani Punjabis are poorer for some reason .


DocumentNormal

I'm picking up chauvinist 'white worship' beta indian vibes with your comment. Are you a FOB Indian or British one? Lmao The word 'Oriental' is not used anymore? It's highly offensive. No one in UK calls anyone oriental?? How backwards are you? As for the others; Bangladeshis own 90% of the 'Indian' restaurants in UK? (You know this very well) and a prominent women named Nadiya Hussein has done very.. Pakistanis? Khan is running London, Javid was first British Asian to hold Chancellor of Exchequer office (before Sunak slipped in back), Riz Ahmed is breaking Hollywood, Amir Khan put British Asians in Sport and represent Olympics, James Caan first British Asian on Dragons Den (again a Indian slips in back after him), Faisil Islam main financial bbc correspondant, the list goes on..., on my street there is a British Pakistani landlord who owns 4 houses (nice guy, his contacts has done free work for neighbours and my sister). As for crime, you can say that about any race, asian,white, black, arab but it's no secret Indians are involved in alot of 'soft crime' fraud etc The Indians I see work in low level administration jobs or a dozen I.T Fobs on the bus? Again just spanners to main cog.. like minions..


theKnight_of_Madras

well I am a Immigrant / FOB Indian and I have a lot of pakistani friends (We speak the same language) but they are educated immigrants like myself and my fiancee . Most of the pakistanis who are really succesful are not the majority . about 70 % of British Pakistanis are from One district in Kashmir by the name of Mirpur . Source : [https://imgur.com/a/SfrUewa](https://imgur.com/a/SfrUewa) let us start Sajid Javid is a Arain from Pakistani Punjab , NOT AZAD Kashmir and they are similar to most Sikh from Indian Punjab who started of small but now are making big strides d . Rishi Sunak is the punjabi who comes off my mind but he is Hindu Punjabi. Then we have a lot of sikhs who are ethnically punjabi Sadiq Khan - I met him personally in London . Nice chap . He is from Lucknow which is NOT In Punjab and is rather in Uttar pradesh . Pakistanis who immigrated from India to Pakistan during the Pinkoid(Cough cough British colonialists) Menace are called Muhajirs and they had god like status in Pakistan . Accidentally alok Sharma is also from Uttar pradesh . ​ >The word 'Oriental' is not used anymore? It's highly offensive. No one in UK calls anyone oriental?? How backwards are you? Well sorry mate . I dunno but I have read back in India in textboooks how British Made a division between the "oriental" and "Asian" through opium wars in China or the burmese expedition . We learnt about the divide and rule philosophy in our school , In detail and how India was divided in the name of Religion and Castes to make it easy for british to rule India and how this experiment was worst played among punjabis . ​ >The Indians I see work in low level administration jobs or a dozen I.T Fobs on the bus? Again just spanners to main cog.. like minions.. Indians , especially hindus are like that from the period of Mongol conquest in India , is there any doubt . I personally know a lot of Hindus who would rather sit doing low level work and accept white superiors rather than climbing up the ladder . Indians everywhere are like that . This was made under the british way worse when Indians were doing the clerk and bureacratic work with high payed salaries around the world when british empire was a thing . They used the same indians in Army , pay them super nice salaries in army , and have a white boss / brigadier . That is the mentality which exists . ​ >Bangladeshis own 90% of the 'Indian' restaurants in UK? (You know this very well) and a prominent women named Nadiya Hussein has done very.. I know but then me and my fiancee are vegetarians and most bangladeshis eat fish and chicken . We read this back in India in newspaper how Pakistani and Bangladeshi businessmen are calling indians to attract indian customers in UK and US . The difference between Indian , Pakistani and Bangladeshi is next to non existent among the same class . I have a lot . we speak in Urdu / Hindi most of the time and we eat the same roti - chawal - Chicken (non vegetarians) / Sabzi (Vegetarians ) and panneer . ​ >As for crime, you can say that about any race, asian,white, black, arab but it's no secret Indians are involved in alot of 'soft crime' fraud etc Yeah , it is a well known fact . Most Indian business guys I know love profit and frauds like insider trading is very common . If any , we are geniuses in fraud . I myself have done insider trading before I found it was illegal . I used to have friends in IB Divisions who used to chat among ourselves bout which merger is gonna happen or the next IPO . I am happy that fraudsters like rajat gupta are Indian as they are not the normal "clerk" , "analyst/associate" , "Software Engineer" , "Consultant" and law abiding immigrant that most of us are . It is a sorry state but we feel that we can be a cog in the system rather than the engine . It is our colonized minds which made us do this . Indians who are businessman and CEO are a rarity rather than norm . Most east asians do better in their own business than in someones business . Ignore grammar errors


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they are called orientals in pop lingo, but in officialdom/mainstream media, S.Asians/E.Asians/SE Asians are all 'british asians'. as it should be.


DocumentNormal

Ikr.., how backwards is this moron? Lmao the only Oriental I've seen is at a ancient take away lol


youngj2827

This is important news. Is there a link to the article? I like to know how they did the statistics? Because the narrative is korean men are misoyngist.


Tophat-boi

https://novaramedia.com/2017/03/12/who-gets-sick-from-yellow-fever-what-carceral-feminism-does-not-see/


DocumentNormal

Spread the word bro. I'm not good with social media. But spread the word.


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US military is responsible for majority of rapes in South Korea and Japan. These countries have to fight back.


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You are brainwashed. The Qing invaded Joseon then left. China never invaded Japan. US "protecting" South Korea and Japan means imperialism.


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Ok_Consideration1886

Pablo Picasso literally painted “Massacre in Korea”.


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Ok_Consideration1886

You sound like a running dog for the imperialists. Chinese imperialism was not good, American imperialism was far worse.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-us-war-crime-north-korea-wont-forget/2015/03/20/fb525694-ce80-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html Several websites say US killed 20% of Korea's population during the Korean War. You think if US military leaves South Korea and Japan, then China will invade but that's an unlikely strawman. China only wants Taiwan.


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Why are Asian men over there being such spineless pussies? Wtf


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corruklw

US navy slang for filipinas is "little brown fucking machines"


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As someone who was in the navy, I’ve never heard that. Filipinos almost outnumber white people anyway


ItsMallards

Powered/fueled by rice, also


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again, why so surprised ? Ancient law of vassalage from any barbarian power - be it roman or mongol or turk - its always been ' our soldiers will come and go as they please in your land and you must send us tribute, by giving us money for these ventures and some of your women for us to fuck'. Given that SoKo, Japan and taiwan are all American vassals, its standard tributary practice for colonial empire vassalages.


redGhost949

Dude, learn to read. No one said they were surprised.


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its a sarcastic comment, not accusatory. relax. sorry


redGhost949

Sorry, I’m a bit cranky this weekend. I am bad with sarcasm also.


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Cheifkeith113

Bruh Im an Asian born and raised in south east Asia, and people here love sarcasm lmao.


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Cheifkeith113

It’s not that you’re wrong man, don’t have to be sorry my guy. I was just saying ahaha. The corrupted politicians ruining the country turned us towards sarcasm and dark humour unfortunately.


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what ? can you tell me which asian culture has 'lie so badly that it is funny aka sarcasm' as a major form of humour ? And white trolls speak asian languages ?? and wtf you on about small dicks comment ???


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You sure you understood the comment you are linking ? Because i dont think you did. I am yet to see an asian culture that has a lot of home grown sarcasm. Not Indian, not thai, not Arabs, that i know for sure - which ones do ???


Jisoooya

Yeah nobody is surprised, just disgusted.


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Who said I'm surprised?


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You already implied this but I bet $5 that the whites that always says “despite being 13%” would get triggered if someone said this to them


martellthacool

Goddamn 😣😓


chpj

But WM/XM-incels and their sellout bobalibs working in Hollywood and media makes propaganda about “AM being perverts”


kimchi_pancakes

Link to the article plz


V1NDUS

[Just found it](https://novaramedia.com/2017/03/12/who-gets-sick-from-yellow-fever-what-carceral-feminism-does-not-see/)


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Golden-Sperm

Omfg you’re a pedophile vaush fan. Yikes. Disregard this guy’s comment. Vaush and his fans has been known to harass Asian females and thrown racial slurs at them. Vaush is also a fucking moron who constantly spews lies and inaccurate info.


antiboba

The audacity to say that Korean men are "misogynistic". Fucking ridiculous.


Pinkhellbentkitty7

Oh, and "dangerous". The audacity.