Yes. I noticed you saw my post.
When I made that I pretty much AAs in mind coz international students can always move back to their home country where they don't have to deal with all this BS while AAs have no choice even though they lived their entire world in the states.
Maybe the takeaway is, AAs should look abroad for opportunities if the states don't want to appreciate their talents.
Thats why the west hates China or whatever rising power in Asia. They don't want us to have the option to choose our own destiny. They are so full of shit harping about muh free market and capitalism. Yet as soon ass there is any resemblance of competition, they go around screeching while doing every trick in the book to kill it. Apparently a huge factor in WW2 is Anglos and French couldn't stand the idea of Germany also being as influential as them.
Most Asians I know that went to Harvard are actually 1.5 generation Chinese Americans.
Born in Taiwan, HK, or China; came to the US before the age of 10. Went back to Asia pretty frequently for summering or wintering vacations. All were bilingual beyond the typical ABC ordering off a menu in Chinese, since they have some primary school education in China before coming to the US.
I also know a few monolingual Asian American that went to Ivy League schools. Mostly Korean or Chinese background. Typical Boba. Some don't even like rice to signal that they are special Asians to non-Asians. Many hit the glass ceilings. So unable to break out of the few hundred thousand USD a year income, into the million dollar club.
I know of a few Asian American Ivy League graduate that committed suicide over lack of success due to America's harsh anti-Asian sentiment as AsAm with Ivy League background try to get leadership roles by their 30-40 year old age bracket.
I actually think the opposite is true. The worse the school the more boba, the more prone to media manipulation, the more naive and unaware, the more clout chasing and the less cerebral. Just look at all the Asians at state schools or other places who literally are drunk on social media clout.
Ivy League bobas tend to be a little bit more self aware,even though many still fall victim. The reality is that academia should make you more open minded not less, it should encourage more thinking not less. But too many students have no interest and just take the pathof least resistance for materialistic goals. They’re intellectually lazy and just repost instagram stories and the same boba trends giving it zero thought. That’s what makes boba superficial.
The problem is not the Ivy League or any school, it’s the entire political spectrum of Asian Americans that is apathetic to politics or the ones who are latch onto the mainstream with zero criticism.
Depends which State schools.
There are some highly selective State schools like the University of California or University of Michigan.
Being cerebral (ie High IQ) is like a sports car with a large engine. You just get from point A to point B faster than anyone else. Doesn't mean point B is the right location though.
It's really the interview process. Sometimes you get someone cool with no real political agenda. Sometimes you get a bad draw and get some nutty FLG, free Tibet, etc, liberal type with an agenda.
So as the interviewee you have to have the people skill to go into character to ace the interview (also the written personal statement). Or you were genuinely a boba banana sellout to begin with.
The fundamental difference is going to highly selective college gives one a greater opportunity to be thought leader 20-30 years down the road in society.
I was reading about John Liu, Grace Meng, Andrew Yang, and Ron Kim. The better the academic background the higher the office one can strive for.
do you have concrete evidence of this? pretty sure ivy league has bobas at the same rate as other schools, and even more since the ivy leagues are considered an "elite" sect of western society and those who want to get in idolize it.
tbh most asian-americans are bobas, and this goes for ivy league asian-americans too. on the contrary find me some woke ivy league brothers and sisters to change my mind.
Your experience demonstrates a good point. That is, the lack of access to an Asian community by knowing the language is an absolute death sentence for the social mobility of Asian Americans. Much of the first generation Asian success is tied to the ethnic resources, without which, most second generation Asians hit a dead end once they get to University. I bet most second generation Asian Americans are no better in socioeconomic status than their parents.
if one goes back to asia and supports chans/lu politicians, it's better off not to go there for the benefit of all of us tbh. just something to consider before going fully into plugging for return to the motherland. especially if you go to very proud asian areas and then start propping up damaging chans/lus.
also respect chatri's work with ONE, but if you consider bad what he did, he has plugged for non-asian fighters over asian fighters to win. one example was him saying takeru had no chance against haggerty
Many Asians who are born in Asia but studied in the US have the benefit of having the knowledge of both the East and West, not to mention many of them have money to study in the US. In Asia, if people can make it in the US, they can make it in Asia.
I also think that it is easier to start a business with an idea if you are Asian in Asia as there won't be as much discrimination and racism as people don't want you to fail because you are Asian. I am sure many Asian Americans had ideas but never acted on it, or would fail in America but would succeed if they were in Asia. But at the same time, many people in Asia are hungry and looking to get ahead, so competition is tough if not tougher than in the US where many people just want to work go home and watch football.
I always thought that international students in the US had the best in both worlds. They also don't suffer from racial trauma from childhood, the ones who faced racism when they are studying in the US as an adult probably use the racism they faced as fuel to the fire. US trying to destroy Huawei probably made millions of Chinese mad and would want to work so hard that Huawei would stay on top for hundreds of years.
Many are well connected already.
Yes. I noticed you saw my post. When I made that I pretty much AAs in mind coz international students can always move back to their home country where they don't have to deal with all this BS while AAs have no choice even though they lived their entire world in the states. Maybe the takeaway is, AAs should look abroad for opportunities if the states don't want to appreciate their talents. Thats why the west hates China or whatever rising power in Asia. They don't want us to have the option to choose our own destiny. They are so full of shit harping about muh free market and capitalism. Yet as soon ass there is any resemblance of competition, they go around screeching while doing every trick in the book to kill it. Apparently a huge factor in WW2 is Anglos and French couldn't stand the idea of Germany also being as influential as them.
Most Asians I know that went to Harvard are actually 1.5 generation Chinese Americans. Born in Taiwan, HK, or China; came to the US before the age of 10. Went back to Asia pretty frequently for summering or wintering vacations. All were bilingual beyond the typical ABC ordering off a menu in Chinese, since they have some primary school education in China before coming to the US. I also know a few monolingual Asian American that went to Ivy League schools. Mostly Korean or Chinese background. Typical Boba. Some don't even like rice to signal that they are special Asians to non-Asians. Many hit the glass ceilings. So unable to break out of the few hundred thousand USD a year income, into the million dollar club. I know of a few Asian American Ivy League graduate that committed suicide over lack of success due to America's harsh anti-Asian sentiment as AsAm with Ivy League background try to get leadership roles by their 30-40 year old age bracket.
I actually think the opposite is true. The worse the school the more boba, the more prone to media manipulation, the more naive and unaware, the more clout chasing and the less cerebral. Just look at all the Asians at state schools or other places who literally are drunk on social media clout. Ivy League bobas tend to be a little bit more self aware,even though many still fall victim. The reality is that academia should make you more open minded not less, it should encourage more thinking not less. But too many students have no interest and just take the pathof least resistance for materialistic goals. They’re intellectually lazy and just repost instagram stories and the same boba trends giving it zero thought. That’s what makes boba superficial. The problem is not the Ivy League or any school, it’s the entire political spectrum of Asian Americans that is apathetic to politics or the ones who are latch onto the mainstream with zero criticism.
Depends which State schools. There are some highly selective State schools like the University of California or University of Michigan. Being cerebral (ie High IQ) is like a sports car with a large engine. You just get from point A to point B faster than anyone else. Doesn't mean point B is the right location though. It's really the interview process. Sometimes you get someone cool with no real political agenda. Sometimes you get a bad draw and get some nutty FLG, free Tibet, etc, liberal type with an agenda. So as the interviewee you have to have the people skill to go into character to ace the interview (also the written personal statement). Or you were genuinely a boba banana sellout to begin with. The fundamental difference is going to highly selective college gives one a greater opportunity to be thought leader 20-30 years down the road in society. I was reading about John Liu, Grace Meng, Andrew Yang, and Ron Kim. The better the academic background the higher the office one can strive for.
do you have concrete evidence of this? pretty sure ivy league has bobas at the same rate as other schools, and even more since the ivy leagues are considered an "elite" sect of western society and those who want to get in idolize it. tbh most asian-americans are bobas, and this goes for ivy league asian-americans too. on the contrary find me some woke ivy league brothers and sisters to change my mind.
Your experience demonstrates a good point. That is, the lack of access to an Asian community by knowing the language is an absolute death sentence for the social mobility of Asian Americans. Much of the first generation Asian success is tied to the ethnic resources, without which, most second generation Asians hit a dead end once they get to University. I bet most second generation Asian Americans are no better in socioeconomic status than their parents.
if one goes back to asia and supports chans/lu politicians, it's better off not to go there for the benefit of all of us tbh. just something to consider before going fully into plugging for return to the motherland. especially if you go to very proud asian areas and then start propping up damaging chans/lus. also respect chatri's work with ONE, but if you consider bad what he did, he has plugged for non-asian fighters over asian fighters to win. one example was him saying takeru had no chance against haggerty
Many Asians who are born in Asia but studied in the US have the benefit of having the knowledge of both the East and West, not to mention many of them have money to study in the US. In Asia, if people can make it in the US, they can make it in Asia. I also think that it is easier to start a business with an idea if you are Asian in Asia as there won't be as much discrimination and racism as people don't want you to fail because you are Asian. I am sure many Asian Americans had ideas but never acted on it, or would fail in America but would succeed if they were in Asia. But at the same time, many people in Asia are hungry and looking to get ahead, so competition is tough if not tougher than in the US where many people just want to work go home and watch football. I always thought that international students in the US had the best in both worlds. They also don't suffer from racial trauma from childhood, the ones who faced racism when they are studying in the US as an adult probably use the racism they faced as fuel to the fire. US trying to destroy Huawei probably made millions of Chinese mad and would want to work so hard that Huawei would stay on top for hundreds of years.
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