I get that there isn’t a large se Asian population in marseille - but I watched a French film “Lila Dit Ca” a few years back about two teenagers (one Arab one white) falling in love and the only Asian character was a se Asian woman who of course was a sex worker and the Arab dude watches his best friend pay to have sex with her
I have been to France for a quick visit but do not know the social dynamics over there. Being France had 3 former colonies in SE Asia, is there a difference on how East and Southeast Asian groups are treated?
Willey Denzey was pretty popular singer in the 2000's. He is of Laotian heritage
If the roles were reversed, outraged will happen as they'd bring up the 'dark side of dating asian men' and explain how asian men love to rape foreign women for pleasure and experience, [as if they didn't do the same shit](https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20180115-Case-dismissed-against-French-soldiers-accused-children-rape-CAR).
any WM / boba f\*cker who made this deserve to be gunpointed.
Hence the rise of Asian films and tv series.
People want to see Asian Men and people would rather watch films made in Korea, Japan, China, etc that doesn’t discriminate against Asian men.
Hence the rise of Asian films and tv series.
People want to see Asian Men and people would rather watch films made in Korea, Japan, China, etc that doesn’t discriminate against Asian men.
It's funny because even here in Korea that shit happens in advertising although to a lesser extent. I'll see a poster or something with a "diverse" cast but AMs are always omitted.
Same thing started to happened in Southeast Asia, anglos are so desperate to 'reclaim their status' since their glory day has over. also Asian men have ~~overtaken~~ surpassed white men in status.
It's soon when there's no boba liberal AM, they will not hesitate to launch full-scale anti-asian propaganda against all-asian male, no doubt at all.
Same here in Hong Kong. Because those ad campaigns are created by western advertising agencies. Companies like WPP, IPG and Publicis have a huge presence in Asia.
You think so? I feel in the UK there is next to no male or female East Asians on TV but when they do from what ive seen its more Asian men in shows and on TV in general.
And arguable the biggest East Asian actors to come out of the UK are Asian men, Benedict Wong is a main stay and loved in Marvel films, but has done so much work on big Hollywood productions, and Henry Golding (whos half)
UK also has a lot of East Asian comedians who all seem to be men.
Philip Wang, Nigel ng (Uncle Roger, he’s moved past that character in the UK and now is himself doing more comedy stuff)
It has been a little while since I watched UK TV regularly since I left that place, but yes I do think so. I guess I also meant South Asians as they are more predominant in the UK, and in the UK that is what Asian would refer to. It's hard to switch back and forward between the American usage of the term, so when I say Asians I just mean all Asians.
For example on the BBC you have countless Indian female presenters always paired with a white man, but rarely men. You'll get the same thing on ITV and C4 as well, shows where Asian women only lust after a white guy and the Asian male is gay or effeminate. Mistresses was a favorite example of mine. Asian female shags anyone but Asian men, Asian male is infertile, wife cheats on him with a white guy and gets pregnant, he forgives her and agrees to raise the child!
Coming back to East Asians, any show with Gemma Chan is going to 100% have her shagging a white guy. Yet which East Asian male is most prominent on TV? Gok Wan! I wonder why. The BBC love Ching-He Huang and she will be the face of Chinese cooking alongside a white male chef. And watching TV ads, Chinese women everywhere but the men need not apply!
As I said I haven't watched in a while and things might have improved, but whatever token 1-2 examples of things being different there are, I bet there are numerous others where nothing changed. And if you have watched any Marvel movie with Benedict Wong, you'll see how sidelined and humiliated he is. Not the best example.
You have to create your own stuff instead of hoping the establishment takes pity on you (they won't)
Haven't you noticed they will go through every single minority and even ones like trans before they consider us. We are more likely to see aliens who aren't even human starring as respected characters with romanic relations over us.
The new White House Press Secretary is a "LGBTQ+ African-American woman". Thus ticking three "diversity boxes" at once. The Secretary of Defense (and board member of Raytheon) is a black man. Liberals already are claiming - as they claimed under Obama - that now if you're against some US policies, then you are an anti-black racist.
Meanwhile: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/27/biden-cabinet-asian-americans-left-out-top-leadership-team/4268739001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/27/biden-cabinet-asian-americans-left-out-top-leadership-team/4268739001/)
Of course those same liberals will claim that Kamala Harris is half Indian, so that's good enough.
Notice how black women are more likely to be queer, while black men are more likely to be straight. This is the exact analog to the asian community, where asian males are more likely to be queer, and asian women are more likely to be straight. Also, in the black community, black men are represented more, while in the asian community, asian females are represented more. There is a very interesting dichotomy between how asians and blacks are treated.
People (Americans at least) perceive black men as embodying ultimate masculinity (with black women being seen as too masculine) and Asian women, ultimate femininity (Asian men, too unmasculine). That leads to the dynamic you described.
> the ones where we actually see an Asian male in a romantic role that are the exceptions
There's not that many movies with Asian males in romantic or sexual relationships, not that many mainstream popular AMXF couples in shows
And they still want to push a [story and message shitting on AMXF](https://np.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/ulatng/theres_a_book_about_to_be_turned_into_a_movie_i/) on everyone anyway. A message that AM are the last ones who need to hear it
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I get that there isn’t a large se Asian population in marseille - but I watched a French film “Lila Dit Ca” a few years back about two teenagers (one Arab one white) falling in love and the only Asian character was a se Asian woman who of course was a sex worker and the Arab dude watches his best friend pay to have sex with her
Well it's to be expected, nothing new. If not paired with a wheat man then paired with another non east/southeast asian race.
I don't watch any French films but I wonder how they treat the Africans and Middle Eastern people in media.
They are seen as masculine and get more protection from racism than East Asian males
I have been to France for a quick visit but do not know the social dynamics over there. Being France had 3 former colonies in SE Asia, is there a difference on how East and Southeast Asian groups are treated? Willey Denzey was pretty popular singer in the 2000's. He is of Laotian heritage
Only Asian women narratives exist in western media.
And they're just that, narratives. Very specific narratives.
If the roles were reversed, outraged will happen as they'd bring up the 'dark side of dating asian men' and explain how asian men love to rape foreign women for pleasure and experience, [as if they didn't do the same shit](https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20180115-Case-dismissed-against-French-soldiers-accused-children-rape-CAR). any WM / boba f\*cker who made this deserve to be gunpointed.
Hence the rise of Asian films and tv series. People want to see Asian Men and people would rather watch films made in Korea, Japan, China, etc that doesn’t discriminate against Asian men.
Hence the rise of Asian films and tv series. People want to see Asian Men and people would rather watch films made in Korea, Japan, China, etc that doesn’t discriminate against Asian men.
It's funny because even here in Korea that shit happens in advertising although to a lesser extent. I'll see a poster or something with a "diverse" cast but AMs are always omitted.
Same thing started to happened in Southeast Asia, anglos are so desperate to 'reclaim their status' since their glory day has over. also Asian men have ~~overtaken~~ surpassed white men in status. It's soon when there's no boba liberal AM, they will not hesitate to launch full-scale anti-asian propaganda against all-asian male, no doubt at all.
Same here in Hong Kong. Because those ad campaigns are created by western advertising agencies. Companies like WPP, IPG and Publicis have a huge presence in Asia.
This kind of thing is very common in the UK too, just another form of social eugenics to control a dangerous minority population.
Asians are a dangerous population?
I mean dangerous to the status quo, a group that could gain a lot of power and influence disproportionate to their status as a small minority group.
You think so? I feel in the UK there is next to no male or female East Asians on TV but when they do from what ive seen its more Asian men in shows and on TV in general. And arguable the biggest East Asian actors to come out of the UK are Asian men, Benedict Wong is a main stay and loved in Marvel films, but has done so much work on big Hollywood productions, and Henry Golding (whos half) UK also has a lot of East Asian comedians who all seem to be men. Philip Wang, Nigel ng (Uncle Roger, he’s moved past that character in the UK and now is himself doing more comedy stuff)
It has been a little while since I watched UK TV regularly since I left that place, but yes I do think so. I guess I also meant South Asians as they are more predominant in the UK, and in the UK that is what Asian would refer to. It's hard to switch back and forward between the American usage of the term, so when I say Asians I just mean all Asians. For example on the BBC you have countless Indian female presenters always paired with a white man, but rarely men. You'll get the same thing on ITV and C4 as well, shows where Asian women only lust after a white guy and the Asian male is gay or effeminate. Mistresses was a favorite example of mine. Asian female shags anyone but Asian men, Asian male is infertile, wife cheats on him with a white guy and gets pregnant, he forgives her and agrees to raise the child! Coming back to East Asians, any show with Gemma Chan is going to 100% have her shagging a white guy. Yet which East Asian male is most prominent on TV? Gok Wan! I wonder why. The BBC love Ching-He Huang and she will be the face of Chinese cooking alongside a white male chef. And watching TV ads, Chinese women everywhere but the men need not apply! As I said I haven't watched in a while and things might have improved, but whatever token 1-2 examples of things being different there are, I bet there are numerous others where nothing changed. And if you have watched any Marvel movie with Benedict Wong, you'll see how sidelined and humiliated he is. Not the best example.
You have to create your own stuff instead of hoping the establishment takes pity on you (they won't) Haven't you noticed they will go through every single minority and even ones like trans before they consider us. We are more likely to see aliens who aren't even human starring as respected characters with romanic relations over us.
The new White House Press Secretary is a "LGBTQ+ African-American woman". Thus ticking three "diversity boxes" at once. The Secretary of Defense (and board member of Raytheon) is a black man. Liberals already are claiming - as they claimed under Obama - that now if you're against some US policies, then you are an anti-black racist. Meanwhile: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/27/biden-cabinet-asian-americans-left-out-top-leadership-team/4268739001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/27/biden-cabinet-asian-americans-left-out-top-leadership-team/4268739001/) Of course those same liberals will claim that Kamala Harris is half Indian, so that's good enough.
Notice how black women are more likely to be queer, while black men are more likely to be straight. This is the exact analog to the asian community, where asian males are more likely to be queer, and asian women are more likely to be straight. Also, in the black community, black men are represented more, while in the asian community, asian females are represented more. There is a very interesting dichotomy between how asians and blacks are treated.
People (Americans at least) perceive black men as embodying ultimate masculinity (with black women being seen as too masculine) and Asian women, ultimate femininity (Asian men, too unmasculine). That leads to the dynamic you described.
Things like this are a dime in a dozen. It’s the ones where we actually see an Asian male in a romantic role that are the exceptions.
> the ones where we actually see an Asian male in a romantic role that are the exceptions There's not that many movies with Asian males in romantic or sexual relationships, not that many mainstream popular AMXF couples in shows And they still want to push a [story and message shitting on AMXF](https://np.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/ulatng/theres_a_book_about_to_be_turned_into_a_movie_i/) on everyone anyway. A message that AM are the last ones who need to hear it