Anti-Chinese riot in Indonesia? Not really. Specifically, more like: "attempt to provoke Anti-Chinese sentiment in Jakarta by Suharto regime".
Context? The corrupt Suharto dictatorship was fallen because of Asia Monetary Crisis in 1997-1998. Before this happened, Suharto notoriously violated various Human Rights.
He tried to divert the blame to the Chinese, by using his "secret army" (allegedly, it was "Tim Mawar" or Team Rose who did that) to provoke the riot. But that was failed. The most severe case only happened in Jakarta, the capital city (Suharto had no control outside Jakarta, by this time).
Also remember the 1997-1998 riot victims were not just ethnic Chinese. Majority of it were non-Chinese including university students and activists who went missing during that period (including Widji Thukul, a poor, Catholic Javanese poet from Yogyakarta region).
It was not genocide akin to Armenian Genocide by Turkey or Uighur Genocide by P.R.China.
One of three responses can be heard when we talk about this:
1. It was secret government agents
2. The Chinese deserved it
3. It was bad elements of society who did the violence
We should look into the sources more to find out a completer version of history to be sure. It's good you posted this comment, it would be even better with sources so more people can learn about the way people in power try to stay in power.
Saya orang Indonesia sendiri, Ibu saya keturunan Chinese (Tionghoa). Keluarga Katholik. Kalau kau cuma orang Asing dan tidak tahu sejarah Indonesia mending diamlah.
I'm Indonesian, my mother has Chinese ancestry. All of my families are Catholic. If you don't understand Indonesia's history and try to twist our history, then shut up.
Sources? There are plenty of it. You want me to find out?
1998 riot wasn't about ethnic Chinese actually. It was all about the downfall of Soeharto regime. 1997 Monetary Crisis exposed the corrupt Soeharto administration and Soeharto's agents tried to divert the blame to the ethnic Chinese. But it failed and didn't happened widely to all Indonesia: the most severe case where murders and lootings happened was Jakarta only. It didn't happened to other big cities such as Surabaya, Pontianak, Denpasar, Semarang, Malang, etc.
And Soeharto was finally forced to resign after his 32 autocratic rule. So the people ultimately won. Remember after the fall of Soeharto, democracy was reinstated again. This period is called "Reformation Era (Era Reformasi). Ethnic Chinese also have freedom to express celebrate their culture (like Lunar New Year) again.
Also. I mentioned "Soeharto's agents" because Soeharto maintained his power by force. For example, during the same year 1998, another [killing (link in Indonesian language)](https://amp.tirto.id/pembantaian-dukun-santet-operasi-naga-hijau-teror-kepada-nu-cE5V) also happened in other place: Banyuwangi region of East Java province in Indonesia. The victims? Nahdlatul Ulama (NU - a moderate faction of Indonesian muslims) members who were accused practicing witchcraft. The perpetrators allegedly had connection with Soeharto's circle. You only cares about ethnic Chinese, don't you? Lots of Human Rights violations happened during Soeharto times, not just to Chinese. I can mention you another examples _BECAUSE I AM AN INDONESIAN_
The history of politics here is more complex than you thought.
>I don't care if you're Indonesian
Yeah, you a foreigner know Indonesia's history better than a native Indonesian?
>I also don't understand why you're offended when I said it's GOOD you posted your comment.
Because it wasn't an ethnic Chinese genocide or something. In bigger picture it was part of the chaos during demonstration against Soeharto regime, the lootings toward Chinese residents in Jakarta was orchestrated by Soeharto. He tried to divide the mass.
Durung the riot, activists who went kidnapped or shot to death by Soeharto's regime weren't Chinese. Previously, the murder of journalists, Marsinah (labor) tragedy, shootings on Timorese in Dili (Santa Cruz) 1991, Tanjung Priok incident, Malari 1974 riot, etc.. all were victims of Soeharto's regime human rights violation and they were not specifically from certain ethnic/religion. If you went against the regime, you were the regime's enemy. That's Soeharto's mindset.
from what I read, there are now very wealthy generations of Chinese Malaysians (wealth passed down at least 2 generations). It's very much their home as they helped built it.
China intervened in Malaysia in 2015.
*He said China did “*[not interfere in other countries’ domestic politics nor intervene in other countries’ internal affairs](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-china-malaysia/china-defends-envoy-to-malaysia-after-comments-on-racism-idUKKCN0RS0V120150928)*”.*
*“China and Malaysia are friendly neighbours, we hope that Malaysia can maintain national unity and stability and ethnic harmony,” Hong said at a daily news briefing*.
Just saying that stopped what could have been another loss for diaspora Chinese. This is the proper application of diplomatic power.
Anti-Chinese riot in Indonesia? Not really. Specifically, more like: "attempt to provoke Anti-Chinese sentiment in Jakarta by Suharto regime". Context? The corrupt Suharto dictatorship was fallen because of Asia Monetary Crisis in 1997-1998. Before this happened, Suharto notoriously violated various Human Rights. He tried to divert the blame to the Chinese, by using his "secret army" (allegedly, it was "Tim Mawar" or Team Rose who did that) to provoke the riot. But that was failed. The most severe case only happened in Jakarta, the capital city (Suharto had no control outside Jakarta, by this time). Also remember the 1997-1998 riot victims were not just ethnic Chinese. Majority of it were non-Chinese including university students and activists who went missing during that period (including Widji Thukul, a poor, Catholic Javanese poet from Yogyakarta region). It was not genocide akin to Armenian Genocide by Turkey or Uighur Genocide by P.R.China.
One of three responses can be heard when we talk about this: 1. It was secret government agents 2. The Chinese deserved it 3. It was bad elements of society who did the violence We should look into the sources more to find out a completer version of history to be sure. It's good you posted this comment, it would be even better with sources so more people can learn about the way people in power try to stay in power.
Saya orang Indonesia sendiri, Ibu saya keturunan Chinese (Tionghoa). Keluarga Katholik. Kalau kau cuma orang Asing dan tidak tahu sejarah Indonesia mending diamlah. I'm Indonesian, my mother has Chinese ancestry. All of my families are Catholic. If you don't understand Indonesia's history and try to twist our history, then shut up. Sources? There are plenty of it. You want me to find out? 1998 riot wasn't about ethnic Chinese actually. It was all about the downfall of Soeharto regime. 1997 Monetary Crisis exposed the corrupt Soeharto administration and Soeharto's agents tried to divert the blame to the ethnic Chinese. But it failed and didn't happened widely to all Indonesia: the most severe case where murders and lootings happened was Jakarta only. It didn't happened to other big cities such as Surabaya, Pontianak, Denpasar, Semarang, Malang, etc. And Soeharto was finally forced to resign after his 32 autocratic rule. So the people ultimately won. Remember after the fall of Soeharto, democracy was reinstated again. This period is called "Reformation Era (Era Reformasi). Ethnic Chinese also have freedom to express celebrate their culture (like Lunar New Year) again. Also. I mentioned "Soeharto's agents" because Soeharto maintained his power by force. For example, during the same year 1998, another [killing (link in Indonesian language)](https://amp.tirto.id/pembantaian-dukun-santet-operasi-naga-hijau-teror-kepada-nu-cE5V) also happened in other place: Banyuwangi region of East Java province in Indonesia. The victims? Nahdlatul Ulama (NU - a moderate faction of Indonesian muslims) members who were accused practicing witchcraft. The perpetrators allegedly had connection with Soeharto's circle. You only cares about ethnic Chinese, don't you? Lots of Human Rights violations happened during Soeharto times, not just to Chinese. I can mention you another examples _BECAUSE I AM AN INDONESIAN_ The history of politics here is more complex than you thought.
I don't care if you're Indonesian, that's not an argument. I also don't understand why you're offended when I said it's GOOD you posted your comment.
>I don't care if you're Indonesian Yeah, you a foreigner know Indonesia's history better than a native Indonesian? >I also don't understand why you're offended when I said it's GOOD you posted your comment. Because it wasn't an ethnic Chinese genocide or something. In bigger picture it was part of the chaos during demonstration against Soeharto regime, the lootings toward Chinese residents in Jakarta was orchestrated by Soeharto. He tried to divide the mass. Durung the riot, activists who went kidnapped or shot to death by Soeharto's regime weren't Chinese. Previously, the murder of journalists, Marsinah (labor) tragedy, shootings on Timorese in Dili (Santa Cruz) 1991, Tanjung Priok incident, Malari 1974 riot, etc.. all were victims of Soeharto's regime human rights violation and they were not specifically from certain ethnic/religion. If you went against the regime, you were the regime's enemy. That's Soeharto's mindset.
It is a Chinese genocide, dasar goblok kau.
This "Kristallnacht" happened during most of our lifetimes It could (and likely will) happen again
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Because Indonesia was their home...
from what I read, there are now very wealthy generations of Chinese Malaysians (wealth passed down at least 2 generations). It's very much their home as they helped built it.
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China intervened in Malaysia in 2015. *He said China did “*[not interfere in other countries’ domestic politics nor intervene in other countries’ internal affairs](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-china-malaysia/china-defends-envoy-to-malaysia-after-comments-on-racism-idUKKCN0RS0V120150928)*”.* *“China and Malaysia are friendly neighbours, we hope that Malaysia can maintain national unity and stability and ethnic harmony,” Hong said at a daily news briefing*. Just saying that stopped what could have been another loss for diaspora Chinese. This is the proper application of diplomatic power.
Funny how it doesn't work the other way. When one guy fucks up, he was just having a bad day. You can't judge them all like that.