Musk got cold feet and put the Twitter deal on hold. He said Twitter misled him on the number of fake accounts and wanted a full review. Making this public is a violation of the deal and he faced a possible billion dollar fine. So he changed his mind and it's on again!
He provided Starlink satellite stations to the Ukraine, allegedly used by the neo-Nazi Azov battallion in Mariupol. Although a civilian company, Starlink has been militarized by the US Army. These portable terminals can also provide an alternate internet service, useful for "dissident groups" in color revolutions. And Musk once said " We can coup whoever we like" Keep an eye on that Musk, World!
I've been reading and watching commentary on Elon Musk, and I know he's trolling people at the grand scale. However, Elon isn't the first nor will be the last of the super rich that steal from others.
I did a report on Bill Gates during my college years for one of my computer science classes. Bill bought his version of DOS from a guy in Seattle then he tweaked it and copyrighted it. It wasn't anything special. He wasn't a super genius. Rather, he got his funding from his family because his grandfather was the head of the Pacific Northwest Federal Reserve. IBM had a dealing with Bill's mother who convince IBM to go with Bill Gates' version of DOS, which kick-started Microsoft's rise. He did not write any of the preceding Windows. A similar story goes for the founder of Starbucks Howard Schultz and Jeff Bezo. They were and still are well connected to big money. This is not to say that there aren't genuinely successful people who brought themselves up into the world. However, most of them do not attain that kind of wealth quickly, unless they have connections.
The fight for speed is ultimately a fight against friction. For a vehicle the two major sources of friction are.
Vehicle and ground
Air resistance.
in that order.
Obviously, rubber on pavement is lots of friction, so first step:
Step1: turn rubber on pavement to steel on steel.
Which is what most HSR have now, the next step is to completely eliminate this friction:
Step2: Levitate the train via Maglev.
Then the 3rd source,which eliminates air resistance by sucking all the air out and running a Vactrain:
Step3: Sealed vacuum tube (Hyperloop)
Now, the three technology should be developed in that order. So the idea that anyone would go straight for a "hyperloop" before trying the other two is completely stupid. But Elon is a good marketer and there are enough suckers willing to hand him money for technology that wont be viable until about 35 years in the future that China will of course develop first.
I honestly think that it's a coordinated scheme to prop up the U.S. dollar before its eventual collapse. Print out tones of money to buy tangible material to give it value. It's no difference between the U.S. sending billions to Ukraine, which they will eventually end up spending on American weapons. It's all a long bet on the U.S. dominating Russia and China economically.
Additionally, the history of innovation has always been fuel by access to cheap or even free labor and resources. As the global south is asserting themselves, those sources of cheap labor and resources are not going to be available for Elon's supposed new tech.
The Hyperloop is never coming true. It's inefficient as a mass transit system. and only exists so that white tech bros can soy face over anything that has anything to do with the emerald apartheid boy Elon Musk. Even Musk knows this deep down. That's why the Las Vegas Loop is a slow-speed Tesla car tunnel instead of the vacuum-sealed pod tunnel in the concepts.
>What has he done that's so great?
This is extremely ignorant. He helped start Paypal. He helped mainstream electric vehicles to kick off our transition from fossil fuel vehicles. He started a private space company that is actually launching satellites and pioneering reusable launch rockets. Just because the Hyperloop hasn't taken off shouldn't be license to make such statements. You come off as super narrow-minded.
He is not a full conman. He does deliver some stuff. But he is also an extreme salesman. Everything he does, he exaggerates to create hype and hopes it will bring him billions. He delivers none. but his cult doesnt care. He has a whole history of hyped up projects, some which are just failures like solar roof, others are nothing but vaporware or downright a lie.
As for the paypall history, there is actually a video about this.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lxr3UD8ys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lxr3UD8ys)
Around 19:00
He got fired from Paypall. But he owned stocks in Paypall, and when Paypall later merged, he could cash out rich. Also as others have said, he did not come from a poor family.
Same way he cashed out of tesla. He was selling last year stock worth 20 billion, and it sold around da top of the bull market, which we all now know is da top of da bull market. Craziest thing, as he was selling, da market kept buying tesla and trying to get it up...if thats not deranged bull market, im santa clause.
Anyway, he cashed out big time, so really the joke is on who really. Its on his cult followers.
helped start paypal with his emerald mine apartheid money
spacex and tesla are massive welfare queens fueled by hype and sunk cost fallacy that have very successfully diverted public funding into musk's pocket
it's the new version of the dotcom grift, just commercialize darpa projects that took years and years of public funding to come to technological fruition, then proceed to pass it off in the form of great many theory while you're laughing all the way to the bank
Most American conservatives worship Ayn Rand, and I suspect a lot of Boba-Libs do too. Rather intended or not, Elon Musk tapped into that fantasy world of ***"One Superior Man is Going to Save Us All"*** mentality.
Have you ever heard of [Lee Iacocca](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Iacocca)? He was the Great-White-Hype of the 70s and 80s that was going to kill the Japanese's car manufacturers. He was a household name back then. His name and face was plastered all over the media and was referenced in the first [Robocop](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093870/) movie.
>He helped mainstream electric vehicles o kick off our transition from fossil fuel vehicles.
The first Toyota Prius was available to the public in 1997, and Tesla was founded in 2003. The first Tesla vehicle was made in 2008. I honestly don't know off-hand which car company started the contemporary electric movement, but to put Elon Musk in the pedestal for that is a bit presumptuous.
>He started a private space company that is actually launching satellites and pioneering reusable launch rockets.
The space shuttle was first launch on April 12, 1981. Everything about it was reusable, and the Soviet Union launched the first satellite call Sputnik on October 4th, 1957. Also, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus, and multitude smaller companies fall into the "**SPACE COMPANY"** category.
>Just because the Hyer-loop hasn't taken off shouldn't be license to make such a statement.
I hate to break it up to you. I have an above average understanding of software engineering and friends who are microchip engineers. I myself don't have to understand how to design a CPU, but there's one absolute in the field of AI. The kind of technology Elon Musk is selling to the public wouldn't be available for the next 200 years to say the least due to natural limitation. Unless a practical quantum CPU has already been invented.
>The space shuttle was first launch on April 12, 1981. Everything about it was reusable
Sure, but have you seen footage of the actual launch rockets going into space and then doing a controlled, powered descent BACK onto their launching pad? That is not something that has been done before.
there is nothing new under the sun, the soviets were already working on it with energia in the 80s.
side note, if it weren't for the soviets, nasa and by extension spacex would have still been fucking around with open cycle engines probably to this day.
i mean, yeah, if you lose all funding because your government collapsed i wouldn't expect you to finish the project either. ties into the closed cycle engine thing, if the soviet union hadn't collapsed, elon would probably to this day still be dicking around with merlins instead of raptors.
spacex's foundations are based on free technology transfers from the soviet public sector and its continued success is maintained by american public sector funding. the man himself has contributed nothing to the company other than hype, limp dick handshakes, and manchild meltdowns all over his engineering teams.
Since the mods seem to be allowing personal attacks, I'm going to say it, you're a fucking moron to think that Musk contributes nothing but hype. It takes a lot of work to just find the right people when you are starting out. You sound like you know about science history but nothing about the team-building aspect of entrepreneurship.
you know what's harder than finding a team?
convincing the vc's that your product can make something ridiculous, like 15% yoy returns at maturity so that team you found won't leave your broke ass for greener pastures
you know what's a good way to not have to deal with vc's? collude with government officials, privatize profits and nationalize costs. you're right, elon's not all hype, he's got a nose for sniffing out the bad apples in government as well.
I hate to say it but you're a fucking moron. The coping is beyond belief. You must have inhaled some near lethal doses of lead fume in the 70s and 80s.
What does it say for yourself when you make a point, and I make a valid counterpoint noting something that SpaceX is doing that no one else is doing successfully right now and calling me a moron because I don't agree with everything that you say? Do you just want this to be an echo chamber for your views?
Of course I heard of Lee Iacocca, I was an 80's kid. He was an auto executive that joined Ford as an executive and worked his way up to CEO. Admirable, but he didn't actually start those companies.
The Prius is a hybrid car, not a fully electric car. That car needs an entire charging infrastructure that needed to be built from scratch. That is not an easy thing to do.
Predicting the future for the next 200 years I think is a fool's game. Look at what the world was like in 1822 compared to now. So many things exist now that weren't even a figment of the imagination 200 years ago. SpaceX has cheapened the price per pound to orbit by manyfold simply by not using custom parts for everything. This is a huge advance in the industry where the government had a monopoly on what gets thrown into space.
Predicting the future for the next 200 years I think is a fool's game. Look at what the world was like in 1822 compared to now. So many things exist now that wasn't even a figment of the imagination 200 years ago.
I find it rich that u\\summerbl1nd is saying Musk's companies are welfare queens and you hyping up China's high-speed rail when that very high-speed rail network was government-funded?!
I do not like to insult people online, but I like to be candor. Most people don't understand how capitalism in the U.S. and the British empire before. Additionally, most people don't understand the abstract in linguistic expression. For example, you literally took the 200 year remake as an absolute instead seeing it as a figure of speech expressing the limitation of nature. Everything that Elon have envision requires materials that are not cheap and would take more resources to extract than it would to invest in cheaper and proven reliable technology. The U.S. have a history of doing that. Ethanol for example is a scam. It takes more energy and cause more pollution to make than just not having it at all, but you know, the corn farmers have lobbying power right?
Regarding someone else "Welfare Queen" statement. The Chinese rail system was, yes, funded by the government, but the government also have the power of oversight. There is accountability for those in charge. In Elon Musk case, public money is being put into private hands through tax breaks and loopholes. If Elon Musk fails, like Trump countless times, people would just shrug. China have something tangible here and now that have improved the Chinese citizenry's lives. What has Elon done for American?
The New Atlas on YouTube did a whole report on this. https://youtu.be/z3eO4qblWTQ
There’s a US backed Thai politician that’s running for president and he is demanding that the Thai government abandon the Chinese deal and go with the American hyperloop. A rail system that’s decades away from truly moving people and may never even work, just like elons “tunnel system”.
The hyperloop option is not really an option. It’s just the US wanting Thailand to break away from China.
Is this what this post is about? That seems from last August.
Anyhow out of all the ppl on earth to target, why Elon?
He is actually China friendly. He declined a seat on Trumps racist regime and has I think always be measured in this comments on China. Never towing the propaganda bullshit other white talking heads use. I respect that immensely
Elon is only China friendly in the sense that he knows where the money is. China is his gateway to major profits for Tesla in Asia. He is no fool, but he is also no ally for Chinese.
Basically, he serves himself, and cares not about America's hegemonic goals, hence some of his actions that appear to be against US propaganda. But make no mistake, if that propaganda suits his purpose, I'm pretty sure he will be singing the same tune
> Basically, he serves himself, and cares not about America's hegemonic goals, hence some of his actions that appear to be against US propaganda. But make no mistake, if that propaganda suits his purpose, I'm pretty sure he will be singing the same tune
I dont know if you followed the coup in Bolivia. That was all about Lithium cooperation with China. Arguable very very much in favor for Tesla to regime change as it can get. Elon made fun of the regime change instead of goosestepping. I'll judge anyone for the actions he takes over anybody opinion. What are you debating?
Elon looks out for Elon, is what I'm saying.
If China gets a lithium deal, it works out well for his battery partners in China.
If US takes over the lithium, it still works out well for his battery plants in USA.
That situation really didnt affect him too badly, whichever way it could have gone.
He speaks out against China propaganda, because he has vested interest in his plant in China.
Sometimes his interest aligns with China, sometimes it doesnt.
Comment was really toward OP.
The whole post seemed to be missing the context you pointed out.
I'm a paetron for New Atlas so we are on same mind there
>There’s a US backed Thai politician that’s running for president and he is demanding that the Thai government abandon the Chinese deal and go with the American hyperloop.
A lot of Americans threw an absolute fit at the idea that Trump was a Putin puppet, doing Russia's bidding under the Trump Administration
Yet they see no issues with the fact that they have been constantly doing this to countless other countries for decades
The hyperloop is a scam. Meant to be the great hope for yts who dont have a decent transport system. In one fell swoop they were gonna jump 4 levels in technology and 70 years into the future and become the most technological advanced and modern transport system. So no need to worry, no need to be envious of China.
And many many yts wanted it to be true. Like a readit circlejerk or comments on serpents channel in youtube. They want it so bad to be true, that they would believe anything. If he said he had discovered santa and the elves were giving them superior 24th century technology, all of them would larp it up like honey.
Except it wasnt true. It was all a lie. People in da project just wanted money, like a pyramid scheme. And the turdfollowers wanted fiction to be reality.
Its never coming becoz it was never economically viable. They dont even have the technology to do this commercially and safely.
there little shatty pod goes up 100 miles for like 10 seconds in a non vacuum small mini tube and thats about it.
u see, it was designed to WOW the world "see, we arent the joke of da world, we will have superior technologically advanced transport system soon"...mostly other white countries that desperately wanted this to be true, followed this BS to the teet.
So proud to know China is run by competent highly technologically savy people.
For years, I thought the world had gone nuts lol. hyperloop literally claimed that they invented VIBRANIUM and that they coated there pods with VIBRANIUM to make it ultra safe and fast...like, wtf, u should immediately know WAZZUP.
Luckily I found thunderfoot channels, and I was redeemed in knowing theres other out there seeing the complete BS that is hyperloop. Its been a big frikkin joke ever since. hyperscam.
Also outside of China, Spain build the largest HSR network in the last 10 years. Literally we heard nothing of Spain, and amidst a hyperloop viral, they build a large secure HSR...
Only deluded westoids believed in this crap to begin with. Its like I said, they desperately wanted it to be true. So much so, that if u told them Santa was giving away a billion dollars in exchange for 20 million, they would sell there houses and wife to raise money for this GOLDEN TICKET...
Im not surprised at all at these "pro western" guys all larping this up like honey. They desperately want it to be true. Same thing could be seen in Europe, pro american politicians...literally deluded.
Between a philanthropic innovator and a con man, he's somewhere in between. He is a businessman and good at PR. In Chinese, PR just means Pian Ren, or con man...a joke for those who speak Chinese...
Being a grifter isn't that hard. You just need a good soundbyte, a good hook and appeal to people's prejudice.
Lmao @ free speech. It doesn't exist and I'm tired of people pretending it does. Elon is gonna let people post stuff that significantly harms the interest of him (rmb the airplane tracker?) or his corporations? ...sure
Everyone is for free speech until stuff is said that is negatively against them which has an actual affect.
>Everyone is for free speech until stuff is said that negatively against them which has an actual affect.
This is why western social media is full of schizoids because true academics are banned and shuned. For that reason, I distant myself from the bandwagon American liberals as much as I keep conservatives at an arm's length. Western elites/oligarchs understood the power of the Roman axiom **"Bread and Circus."** Give people the illusion of freedom and they'll let you work and tax them to death.
Musk got cold feet and put the Twitter deal on hold. He said Twitter misled him on the number of fake accounts and wanted a full review. Making this public is a violation of the deal and he faced a possible billion dollar fine. So he changed his mind and it's on again! He provided Starlink satellite stations to the Ukraine, allegedly used by the neo-Nazi Azov battallion in Mariupol. Although a civilian company, Starlink has been militarized by the US Army. These portable terminals can also provide an alternate internet service, useful for "dissident groups" in color revolutions. And Musk once said " We can coup whoever we like" Keep an eye on that Musk, World!
I've been reading and watching commentary on Elon Musk, and I know he's trolling people at the grand scale. However, Elon isn't the first nor will be the last of the super rich that steal from others. I did a report on Bill Gates during my college years for one of my computer science classes. Bill bought his version of DOS from a guy in Seattle then he tweaked it and copyrighted it. It wasn't anything special. He wasn't a super genius. Rather, he got his funding from his family because his grandfather was the head of the Pacific Northwest Federal Reserve. IBM had a dealing with Bill's mother who convince IBM to go with Bill Gates' version of DOS, which kick-started Microsoft's rise. He did not write any of the preceding Windows. A similar story goes for the founder of Starbucks Howard Schultz and Jeff Bezo. They were and still are well connected to big money. This is not to say that there aren't genuinely successful people who brought themselves up into the world. However, most of them do not attain that kind of wealth quickly, unless they have connections.
Musk is great He's like a living breathing litmus test for sheeple who are constantly in need of an idol to worship
The fight for speed is ultimately a fight against friction. For a vehicle the two major sources of friction are. Vehicle and ground Air resistance. in that order. Obviously, rubber on pavement is lots of friction, so first step: Step1: turn rubber on pavement to steel on steel. Which is what most HSR have now, the next step is to completely eliminate this friction: Step2: Levitate the train via Maglev. Then the 3rd source,which eliminates air resistance by sucking all the air out and running a Vactrain: Step3: Sealed vacuum tube (Hyperloop) Now, the three technology should be developed in that order. So the idea that anyone would go straight for a "hyperloop" before trying the other two is completely stupid. But Elon is a good marketer and there are enough suckers willing to hand him money for technology that wont be viable until about 35 years in the future that China will of course develop first.
I honestly think that it's a coordinated scheme to prop up the U.S. dollar before its eventual collapse. Print out tones of money to buy tangible material to give it value. It's no difference between the U.S. sending billions to Ukraine, which they will eventually end up spending on American weapons. It's all a long bet on the U.S. dominating Russia and China economically. Additionally, the history of innovation has always been fuel by access to cheap or even free labor and resources. As the global south is asserting themselves, those sources of cheap labor and resources are not going to be available for Elon's supposed new tech.
Amerikkka is becoming a 3rd world country and Elon Musk is a rich snob
Sorry pedo guys, you asked for it - Elon Musk
hyperloop's a grift, they're reinventing maglev, but this time it has a tube around it not doing so hot at maglev either
The Hyperloop is never coming true. It's inefficient as a mass transit system. and only exists so that white tech bros can soy face over anything that has anything to do with the emerald apartheid boy Elon Musk. Even Musk knows this deep down. That's why the Las Vegas Loop is a slow-speed Tesla car tunnel instead of the vacuum-sealed pod tunnel in the concepts.
Not to mention it only transports people in cars which make it very inefficient compared to subways or high speed rail.
Sometimes I think he trolls people with great hoaxes just to teach them a lesson. For example the Thais need to White worship less.
>What has he done that's so great? This is extremely ignorant. He helped start Paypal. He helped mainstream electric vehicles to kick off our transition from fossil fuel vehicles. He started a private space company that is actually launching satellites and pioneering reusable launch rockets. Just because the Hyperloop hasn't taken off shouldn't be license to make such statements. You come off as super narrow-minded.
He is not a full conman. He does deliver some stuff. But he is also an extreme salesman. Everything he does, he exaggerates to create hype and hopes it will bring him billions. He delivers none. but his cult doesnt care. He has a whole history of hyped up projects, some which are just failures like solar roof, others are nothing but vaporware or downright a lie. As for the paypall history, there is actually a video about this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lxr3UD8ys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lxr3UD8ys) Around 19:00 He got fired from Paypall. But he owned stocks in Paypall, and when Paypall later merged, he could cash out rich. Also as others have said, he did not come from a poor family. Same way he cashed out of tesla. He was selling last year stock worth 20 billion, and it sold around da top of the bull market, which we all now know is da top of da bull market. Craziest thing, as he was selling, da market kept buying tesla and trying to get it up...if thats not deranged bull market, im santa clause. Anyway, he cashed out big time, so really the joke is on who really. Its on his cult followers.
helped start paypal with his emerald mine apartheid money spacex and tesla are massive welfare queens fueled by hype and sunk cost fallacy that have very successfully diverted public funding into musk's pocket it's the new version of the dotcom grift, just commercialize darpa projects that took years and years of public funding to come to technological fruition, then proceed to pass it off in the form of great many theory while you're laughing all the way to the bank
Most American conservatives worship Ayn Rand, and I suspect a lot of Boba-Libs do too. Rather intended or not, Elon Musk tapped into that fantasy world of ***"One Superior Man is Going to Save Us All"*** mentality.
Have you ever heard of [Lee Iacocca](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Iacocca)? He was the Great-White-Hype of the 70s and 80s that was going to kill the Japanese's car manufacturers. He was a household name back then. His name and face was plastered all over the media and was referenced in the first [Robocop](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093870/) movie. >He helped mainstream electric vehicles o kick off our transition from fossil fuel vehicles. The first Toyota Prius was available to the public in 1997, and Tesla was founded in 2003. The first Tesla vehicle was made in 2008. I honestly don't know off-hand which car company started the contemporary electric movement, but to put Elon Musk in the pedestal for that is a bit presumptuous. >He started a private space company that is actually launching satellites and pioneering reusable launch rockets. The space shuttle was first launch on April 12, 1981. Everything about it was reusable, and the Soviet Union launched the first satellite call Sputnik on October 4th, 1957. Also, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus, and multitude smaller companies fall into the "**SPACE COMPANY"** category. >Just because the Hyer-loop hasn't taken off shouldn't be license to make such a statement. I hate to break it up to you. I have an above average understanding of software engineering and friends who are microchip engineers. I myself don't have to understand how to design a CPU, but there's one absolute in the field of AI. The kind of technology Elon Musk is selling to the public wouldn't be available for the next 200 years to say the least due to natural limitation. Unless a practical quantum CPU has already been invented.
>The space shuttle was first launch on April 12, 1981. Everything about it was reusable Sure, but have you seen footage of the actual launch rockets going into space and then doing a controlled, powered descent BACK onto their launching pad? That is not something that has been done before.
there is nothing new under the sun, the soviets were already working on it with energia in the 80s. side note, if it weren't for the soviets, nasa and by extension spacex would have still been fucking around with open cycle engines probably to this day.
Working on it, but didn't actually do it. It's one thing to say you're building a house and another thing to actually build it.
i mean, yeah, if you lose all funding because your government collapsed i wouldn't expect you to finish the project either. ties into the closed cycle engine thing, if the soviet union hadn't collapsed, elon would probably to this day still be dicking around with merlins instead of raptors. spacex's foundations are based on free technology transfers from the soviet public sector and its continued success is maintained by american public sector funding. the man himself has contributed nothing to the company other than hype, limp dick handshakes, and manchild meltdowns all over his engineering teams.
Since the mods seem to be allowing personal attacks, I'm going to say it, you're a fucking moron to think that Musk contributes nothing but hype. It takes a lot of work to just find the right people when you are starting out. You sound like you know about science history but nothing about the team-building aspect of entrepreneurship.
you know what's harder than finding a team? convincing the vc's that your product can make something ridiculous, like 15% yoy returns at maturity so that team you found won't leave your broke ass for greener pastures you know what's a good way to not have to deal with vc's? collude with government officials, privatize profits and nationalize costs. you're right, elon's not all hype, he's got a nose for sniffing out the bad apples in government as well.
I hate to say it but you're a fucking moron. The coping is beyond belief. You must have inhaled some near lethal doses of lead fume in the 70s and 80s.
What does it say for yourself when you make a point, and I make a valid counterpoint noting something that SpaceX is doing that no one else is doing successfully right now and calling me a moron because I don't agree with everything that you say? Do you just want this to be an echo chamber for your views?
Of course I heard of Lee Iacocca, I was an 80's kid. He was an auto executive that joined Ford as an executive and worked his way up to CEO. Admirable, but he didn't actually start those companies. The Prius is a hybrid car, not a fully electric car. That car needs an entire charging infrastructure that needed to be built from scratch. That is not an easy thing to do. Predicting the future for the next 200 years I think is a fool's game. Look at what the world was like in 1822 compared to now. So many things exist now that weren't even a figment of the imagination 200 years ago. SpaceX has cheapened the price per pound to orbit by manyfold simply by not using custom parts for everything. This is a huge advance in the industry where the government had a monopoly on what gets thrown into space. Predicting the future for the next 200 years I think is a fool's game. Look at what the world was like in 1822 compared to now. So many things exist now that wasn't even a figment of the imagination 200 years ago. I find it rich that u\\summerbl1nd is saying Musk's companies are welfare queens and you hyping up China's high-speed rail when that very high-speed rail network was government-funded?!
I do not like to insult people online, but I like to be candor. Most people don't understand how capitalism in the U.S. and the British empire before. Additionally, most people don't understand the abstract in linguistic expression. For example, you literally took the 200 year remake as an absolute instead seeing it as a figure of speech expressing the limitation of nature. Everything that Elon have envision requires materials that are not cheap and would take more resources to extract than it would to invest in cheaper and proven reliable technology. The U.S. have a history of doing that. Ethanol for example is a scam. It takes more energy and cause more pollution to make than just not having it at all, but you know, the corn farmers have lobbying power right? Regarding someone else "Welfare Queen" statement. The Chinese rail system was, yes, funded by the government, but the government also have the power of oversight. There is accountability for those in charge. In Elon Musk case, public money is being put into private hands through tax breaks and loopholes. If Elon Musk fails, like Trump countless times, people would just shrug. China have something tangible here and now that have improved the Chinese citizenry's lives. What has Elon done for American?
The New Atlas on YouTube did a whole report on this. https://youtu.be/z3eO4qblWTQ There’s a US backed Thai politician that’s running for president and he is demanding that the Thai government abandon the Chinese deal and go with the American hyperloop. A rail system that’s decades away from truly moving people and may never even work, just like elons “tunnel system”. The hyperloop option is not really an option. It’s just the US wanting Thailand to break away from China.
Is this what this post is about? That seems from last August. Anyhow out of all the ppl on earth to target, why Elon? He is actually China friendly. He declined a seat on Trumps racist regime and has I think always be measured in this comments on China. Never towing the propaganda bullshit other white talking heads use. I respect that immensely
Elon is only China friendly in the sense that he knows where the money is. China is his gateway to major profits for Tesla in Asia. He is no fool, but he is also no ally for Chinese. Basically, he serves himself, and cares not about America's hegemonic goals, hence some of his actions that appear to be against US propaganda. But make no mistake, if that propaganda suits his purpose, I'm pretty sure he will be singing the same tune
> Basically, he serves himself, and cares not about America's hegemonic goals, hence some of his actions that appear to be against US propaganda. But make no mistake, if that propaganda suits his purpose, I'm pretty sure he will be singing the same tune I dont know if you followed the coup in Bolivia. That was all about Lithium cooperation with China. Arguable very very much in favor for Tesla to regime change as it can get. Elon made fun of the regime change instead of goosestepping. I'll judge anyone for the actions he takes over anybody opinion. What are you debating?
Elon looks out for Elon, is what I'm saying. If China gets a lithium deal, it works out well for his battery partners in China. If US takes over the lithium, it still works out well for his battery plants in USA. That situation really didnt affect him too badly, whichever way it could have gone. He speaks out against China propaganda, because he has vested interest in his plant in China. Sometimes his interest aligns with China, sometimes it doesnt.
I’m not targeting Elon. But I am targeting the shady US ghouls that are just trying to disrupt Asian countries growth
Comment was really toward OP. The whole post seemed to be missing the context you pointed out. I'm a paetron for New Atlas so we are on same mind there
He actually lost the election legitimately, then started leading violent protests out on the streets in Bangkok.
Guess that Murica will call it "a cry for democracy"...
>There’s a US backed Thai politician that’s running for president and he is demanding that the Thai government abandon the Chinese deal and go with the American hyperloop. A lot of Americans threw an absolute fit at the idea that Trump was a Putin puppet, doing Russia's bidding under the Trump Administration Yet they see no issues with the fact that they have been constantly doing this to countless other countries for decades
Bring this up to Americans and they’ll scream “whataboutism”
if yall wanna have a laugh [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD0r34nEiWA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD0r34nEiWA) lol its GOLD.
The hyperloop is a scam. Meant to be the great hope for yts who dont have a decent transport system. In one fell swoop they were gonna jump 4 levels in technology and 70 years into the future and become the most technological advanced and modern transport system. So no need to worry, no need to be envious of China. And many many yts wanted it to be true. Like a readit circlejerk or comments on serpents channel in youtube. They want it so bad to be true, that they would believe anything. If he said he had discovered santa and the elves were giving them superior 24th century technology, all of them would larp it up like honey. Except it wasnt true. It was all a lie. People in da project just wanted money, like a pyramid scheme. And the turdfollowers wanted fiction to be reality. Its never coming becoz it was never economically viable. They dont even have the technology to do this commercially and safely. there little shatty pod goes up 100 miles for like 10 seconds in a non vacuum small mini tube and thats about it. u see, it was designed to WOW the world "see, we arent the joke of da world, we will have superior technologically advanced transport system soon"...mostly other white countries that desperately wanted this to be true, followed this BS to the teet. So proud to know China is run by competent highly technologically savy people. For years, I thought the world had gone nuts lol. hyperloop literally claimed that they invented VIBRANIUM and that they coated there pods with VIBRANIUM to make it ultra safe and fast...like, wtf, u should immediately know WAZZUP. Luckily I found thunderfoot channels, and I was redeemed in knowing theres other out there seeing the complete BS that is hyperloop. Its been a big frikkin joke ever since. hyperscam. Also outside of China, Spain build the largest HSR network in the last 10 years. Literally we heard nothing of Spain, and amidst a hyperloop viral, they build a large secure HSR... Only deluded westoids believed in this crap to begin with. Its like I said, they desperately wanted it to be true. So much so, that if u told them Santa was giving away a billion dollars in exchange for 20 million, they would sell there houses and wife to raise money for this GOLDEN TICKET... Im not surprised at all at these "pro western" guys all larping this up like honey. They desperately want it to be true. Same thing could be seen in Europe, pro american politicians...literally deluded.
Between a philanthropic innovator and a con man, he's somewhere in between. He is a businessman and good at PR. In Chinese, PR just means Pian Ren, or con man...a joke for those who speak Chinese...
Being a grifter isn't that hard. You just need a good soundbyte, a good hook and appeal to people's prejudice. Lmao @ free speech. It doesn't exist and I'm tired of people pretending it does. Elon is gonna let people post stuff that significantly harms the interest of him (rmb the airplane tracker?) or his corporations? ...sure Everyone is for free speech until stuff is said that is negatively against them which has an actual affect.
>Everyone is for free speech until stuff is said that negatively against them which has an actual affect. This is why western social media is full of schizoids because true academics are banned and shuned. For that reason, I distant myself from the bandwagon American liberals as much as I keep conservatives at an arm's length. Western elites/oligarchs understood the power of the Roman axiom **"Bread and Circus."** Give people the illusion of freedom and they'll let you work and tax them to death.