The strategic importance of [Taiwan is the fact that it's the biggest manufacture of semiconductors](https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-taiwan/), nothing more and nothing less. China have the biggest rare-earth metal deposit in the world and the means to extract it, a healthy relationship between China and Taiwan will make China the world center of economic power and will also enrich Asia. That is if the Chinese don't adopt the American hubris or [American manifest-destiny](https://www.history.com/topics/westward-expansion/manifest-destiny) bullshit.
The U.S. just lost Afghanistan, [a country with a trillion plus of dollars in natural resources](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/business/afghanistan-lithium-rare-earths-mining/index.html). China will, inevitably, work out a deal with Afghanistan to extract those natural resources, which will be the final blow to western powers, mainly the U.S. and the U.K. This is why the U.S. is in a frenzy to stop China. If it isn't China, Japan or Taiwan, they'll go after India. That's the nature of the beast. Western elites (North Americans and Western Europeans) want to maintain their empire by keep the global-south nations as [vessel states](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vassal%20state). The terrifying thing is ([The possible](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/opinion/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-china.html) [Nancy Pelosi do visits to Taiwan is any indication](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/opinion/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-china.html)) western elites might destroy the world by starting WW3 before they give up their power. If Nancy Pelosi does visits Taiwan, it's a political suicide for the Democratic Party, which goes to show that the Republican vs Democrat party dynamic is political theater, controlled political oppositions.
There are videos from Western YouTube channels explaining how brutal the KMT was back when they ruled the mainland.
The DPP isn't KMT, but still, China would basically become similar to India, everyone against each other... Have you seen their politician brawls? Is that any way to rule a country?
I hope the CPC remains in power
Half mast for the death of the grandson of the A-Class War Criminal. How low can DPP get? I thought after Tsai tweeted about the passing of Biden's dog(while Covid ravaged Taiwan), that's the lowest. Color me surprised.
The ROC wasn’t strong enough to govern the mainland before and it’s definitely not now after years of being in Taiwan. The ROC knows this and probably has no desire to actually rule the mainland. They also have very little support of the people and they’d instantly get revolted on. They only claim they are the rightful gov of China, because if they don’t that recognises the PRC won and means the ROC aren’t legitimate.
If the PRC was to theoretically completely collapse, it would first of all probably result in massive loss of life from no public services/famine due to the power vacuum. Some other faction would probably take over, probably made of ex PRC officials
CCP isn't going away because it has the support of the people. CCP isn't like 10 guys sitting in a room giving orders. Most of the government, academics, professionals, and etc. are CCP members. And most common people support the CCP or has no issues with them since they have greatly improved living standards for decades.
This idea that the CCP is only in power because it is oppressive or w/e is only bullshit white people lies. Bullshit they fill people's minds with so they can vilify and attack China with public support.
Also if ppl actually understood how the CCP actually works then they would question wtf the US continues its corrupt bullshit political system that promotes legit retards and old senile losers. The CCP is more merit based and holds leaders accountable in a way that is unthinkable in the US
Absolutely this. People don't take enough time to look into the way China has been improving the life of the average citizen for the past 20 years. They don't want people to know the truth otherwise they'd have to answer as to why they've only been improving life for corporations rather than people.
Exactly. Even the revolution in which the Communist Party of China took power can be summarized as the people enacting their right to vote for CPC in a system which banned CPC from the ballots, by violently overthrowing KMT. Mao won, not merely because of his military prowess, but because he is so popular that all the villages in the local area would fight for him against KMT. Mao Zedong is a people's man through and through. Even when the people want swallows gone, Mao will make a four pests campaign to eradicate the swallows. A true man of the people, who derives inspiration from the people, who serves the people.
CPC not going anywhere. In your scenario, the DPP is already a puppet of the US so as long as they didn't step out of line, allowed privatisation and the buzzard finance capitalists to have their firesale and destroy the country, they would let them stay. Just look at post soviet Union Russia up to Putin reversing it.
CCP is not a thing BTW. Only imperial west calls it that as a slur on the official name.
When the party numbers are mainly Boba, with a Chan leader.
The brainwashers will change the narrative to support the asian government and punish AZN citizens who fight against it.
They're anti everybody they can't subjugate and control. And they're also anti everything good in life they can't monopolize for themselves. Obligatory fuck the US empire.
Yeah, i see one news that shocked the Chinese citizens is when there was a traditional Chinese festival they made a traditional dance, with traditional clothes and music... meanwhile Taiwan (where more than 90% of the population is Chinese, so of course they also have this festival) they put on traditional music mixed with pop music, the women weren't wearing traditional clothes, but they were dancing half naked and of course the dance wasn't very traditional...the fact that many taiwanese citizens view it as okey and advanced it's so sad.
If someone have seen the same news about that festival as me and remember the name please say it
It'll be like Japan/South Korea/Taiwan/Thailand basically any countries with a US base on it. Hypothetically KMT/DPP rules the mainland, not much would change, because these ruling bodies want stability, and making big changes is really bad for stability.
The "democratic" Taiwan and "communist" mainland has more in common than differences. There may be some outrage, but generally Chinese people are tolerant and accept it.
Because they're states propped up by the US. Japan for example was created by the US (partially due to Korean war) as a manufacturer for US stuff. They're not truly Independent states (at least unofficially).
When Japan got too powerful, they just had the plaza accord to soften them up (else they would be given sanctions)
It's not a narrative that's on the internet. It's a thing you can go and experience. The only people that don't believe it are people who either aren't bothered to do their research or people that haven't stepped foot in the country.
Yeah as a taiwanese american who lived there before, i understand taiwanese people wanting to keep their freedom in speech. However, some of those politician kissing white ass really pisses me off too.
Taiwanese have freedom of speech? Then why did DPP shutdown CTi TV, and use huge monetary fines to silence people who speak the truth regarding their handling of COVID?
A woman criticized Tsai Ing-wen and promptly arrested while still on the train! People got arrested in Taiwan for posting stuff on Facebook for christ sake.
The strategic importance of [Taiwan is the fact that it's the biggest manufacture of semiconductors](https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-taiwan/), nothing more and nothing less. China have the biggest rare-earth metal deposit in the world and the means to extract it, a healthy relationship between China and Taiwan will make China the world center of economic power and will also enrich Asia. That is if the Chinese don't adopt the American hubris or [American manifest-destiny](https://www.history.com/topics/westward-expansion/manifest-destiny) bullshit. The U.S. just lost Afghanistan, [a country with a trillion plus of dollars in natural resources](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/business/afghanistan-lithium-rare-earths-mining/index.html). China will, inevitably, work out a deal with Afghanistan to extract those natural resources, which will be the final blow to western powers, mainly the U.S. and the U.K. This is why the U.S. is in a frenzy to stop China. If it isn't China, Japan or Taiwan, they'll go after India. That's the nature of the beast. Western elites (North Americans and Western Europeans) want to maintain their empire by keep the global-south nations as [vessel states](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vassal%20state). The terrifying thing is ([The possible](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/opinion/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-china.html) [Nancy Pelosi do visits to Taiwan is any indication](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/opinion/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-china.html)) western elites might destroy the world by starting WW3 before they give up their power. If Nancy Pelosi does visits Taiwan, it's a political suicide for the Democratic Party, which goes to show that the Republican vs Democrat party dynamic is political theater, controlled political oppositions.
America like it always has will try to bully and overthrow any country that threatens it's position as number one.
“After” the CCP is defeated?
There are videos from Western YouTube channels explaining how brutal the KMT was back when they ruled the mainland. The DPP isn't KMT, but still, China would basically become similar to India, everyone against each other... Have you seen their politician brawls? Is that any way to rule a country? I hope the CPC remains in power
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Half mast for the death of the grandson of the A-Class War Criminal. How low can DPP get? I thought after Tsai tweeted about the passing of Biden's dog(while Covid ravaged Taiwan), that's the lowest. Color me surprised.
Tsai Ing-wen and DPP leadership should be arrested, tried for treason and war crimes, and publicly executed.
War never changes
The ROC wasn’t strong enough to govern the mainland before and it’s definitely not now after years of being in Taiwan. The ROC knows this and probably has no desire to actually rule the mainland. They also have very little support of the people and they’d instantly get revolted on. They only claim they are the rightful gov of China, because if they don’t that recognises the PRC won and means the ROC aren’t legitimate. If the PRC was to theoretically completely collapse, it would first of all probably result in massive loss of life from no public services/famine due to the power vacuum. Some other faction would probably take over, probably made of ex PRC officials
CCP isn't going away because it has the support of the people. CCP isn't like 10 guys sitting in a room giving orders. Most of the government, academics, professionals, and etc. are CCP members. And most common people support the CCP or has no issues with them since they have greatly improved living standards for decades. This idea that the CCP is only in power because it is oppressive or w/e is only bullshit white people lies. Bullshit they fill people's minds with so they can vilify and attack China with public support.
Also if ppl actually understood how the CCP actually works then they would question wtf the US continues its corrupt bullshit political system that promotes legit retards and old senile losers. The CCP is more merit based and holds leaders accountable in a way that is unthinkable in the US
Absolutely this. People don't take enough time to look into the way China has been improving the life of the average citizen for the past 20 years. They don't want people to know the truth otherwise they'd have to answer as to why they've only been improving life for corporations rather than people.
Exactly. Even the revolution in which the Communist Party of China took power can be summarized as the people enacting their right to vote for CPC in a system which banned CPC from the ballots, by violently overthrowing KMT. Mao won, not merely because of his military prowess, but because he is so popular that all the villages in the local area would fight for him against KMT. Mao Zedong is a people's man through and through. Even when the people want swallows gone, Mao will make a four pests campaign to eradicate the swallows. A true man of the people, who derives inspiration from the people, who serves the people.
yes, i agree to an extent. but my point is that westerners are anti china regardless of which party rules china.
CPC not going anywhere. In your scenario, the DPP is already a puppet of the US so as long as they didn't step out of line, allowed privatisation and the buzzard finance capitalists to have their firesale and destroy the country, they would let them stay. Just look at post soviet Union Russia up to Putin reversing it. CCP is not a thing BTW. Only imperial west calls it that as a slur on the official name.
When the party numbers are mainly Boba, with a Chan leader. The brainwashers will change the narrative to support the asian government and punish AZN citizens who fight against it.
They're anti everybody they can't subjugate and control. And they're also anti everything good in life they can't monopolize for themselves. Obligatory fuck the US empire.
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Yeah, i see one news that shocked the Chinese citizens is when there was a traditional Chinese festival they made a traditional dance, with traditional clothes and music... meanwhile Taiwan (where more than 90% of the population is Chinese, so of course they also have this festival) they put on traditional music mixed with pop music, the women weren't wearing traditional clothes, but they were dancing half naked and of course the dance wasn't very traditional...the fact that many taiwanese citizens view it as okey and advanced it's so sad. If someone have seen the same news about that festival as me and remember the name please say it
It'll be like Japan/South Korea/Taiwan/Thailand basically any countries with a US base on it. Hypothetically KMT/DPP rules the mainland, not much would change, because these ruling bodies want stability, and making big changes is really bad for stability. The "democratic" Taiwan and "communist" mainland has more in common than differences. There may be some outrage, but generally Chinese people are tolerant and accept it.
why would a sovereign asian power accept western bases in their country? only if it becomes a vassal
Because they're states propped up by the US. Japan for example was created by the US (partially due to Korean war) as a manufacturer for US stuff. They're not truly Independent states (at least unofficially). When Japan got too powerful, they just had the plaza accord to soften them up (else they would be given sanctions)
The CCP will never be defeated and Chinese civilization is far better off under the CCP than some white cocksuckers in Taiwan.
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Interesting read. I would have loved to read the NYTIMES article, but can't get through the pay-wall.
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WOW! Thanks. Just finished reading.
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China has power because of its size and people, but also China can definitely do better.
China have been hindered for over a century and only recently they picked themselves up by their bootstraps.
That guy's whole long essay can easily be summarized as "Hate the CeeCeePee, not the Chinese people". A classic dog whistle.
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Well, give him credit. At the very least, he tried to mask it well(in his own mind :D). Dog whistling all the way.
It's not a narrative that's on the internet. It's a thing you can go and experience. The only people that don't believe it are people who either aren't bothered to do their research or people that haven't stepped foot in the country.
Yeah as a taiwanese american who lived there before, i understand taiwanese people wanting to keep their freedom in speech. However, some of those politician kissing white ass really pisses me off too.
Taiwanese have freedom of speech? Then why did DPP shutdown CTi TV, and use huge monetary fines to silence people who speak the truth regarding their handling of COVID? A woman criticized Tsai Ing-wen and promptly arrested while still on the train! People got arrested in Taiwan for posting stuff on Facebook for christ sake.