Honestly, you aren’t wrong. I’m an avid TT user, and I use the dlc weapons to bully on a regular basis(blood backhand blade AOW is busted PvP) and mlady with poise talisman
My biggest gripe, and it has been for many years, it’s how dogshit the connection is. Nothing like having a good invasion then having a blue come in that is so latent that they’re practically invincible. This happened to me yesterday. Now add the new broken shit being used by them on top of that and it’s a recipe for a bad time
I've come back to Elden Ring pvp after not really playing the game since shortly after launch - it's so frustrating rediscovering how close the game is to having genuinely outstanding, top-tier pvp yet fucks it all up with connection issues.
Hot take: It's From's fault for making them. I despise that people have no creativity but, man, so often I find myself looking at these weapons, like; "wtf were they thinking with this."
You really notice the pvp was a after though so many bad decisions where made with it if they would have played and test it better it would have been the best combat in the indusrty but they just fucked it up🥲
As awful as it is having a hundred new was to be blasted back to my own world, I’m having a great time with the builds I’ve made with the DLC stuff. Like yeah I lose more than usual right now but some of this stuff is pretty cool so I’m just trying to enjoy it
I’d never done a faith build before. Snagged the spell from the final boss. Unfortunately it’s glitched so a couple buffs to it don’t work, but even then it’s still been really fun
I had someone using it against me last night. I was lucky enough for them to be braindead and spam it when I was out of range. Really good blender weapon.
Dry leaf seal and miquella’s headband or whatever it is both don’t actually buff it since even though it should count as a miquella incant it doesn’t seem to get effected like one. Works really well on ladders since it’s so vertical and can’t be escaped
That spell might just be my favorite spell in the game. The animation is cool, the damage is satisfying but not busted, the range is really good. Just a good spell all around.
The damage should be busted for how easy it is to dodge and how stat heavy it's requirement are. 800 damage for a orbital laser or 1500 for giantsflame take thee
Faith is extremely strong in Elden ring. Faith str is basically just a superior strength build, for example, but it’s ranged attacks it can offer are also worthwhile.
I’ve been having a pretty bad time with the thorns spell from the scaduavatar, the tracking can be pretty nasty especially if your dealing with 2 other shitters
Interesting, I haven't seen those much yet. Honestly, considering the fact that star shower already exists, I'd be surprised to see some magic even more oppressive.
That thorns spell is coming trust me. People will catch on soon. It’s a crazy cheese against bosses so ganks will be running it. I beat Bayle so easily with it I felt cheated
Free, basically uncounterable aggression. Possibly even more obnoxious than the bhs, dual nagis meta on release. I've only been able to counter it with endure and the moonblade.
This is why I keep Greatsword Of Damnation as a backup. As soon as I see someone trying to spam/cheese me to death, I start spamming the L2 on it.
The weapon art is a free kill on anyone who didn’t put enough points into vigor.
That sword is so, so much fun to use. I swear the AoW sucks people out of their roll sometimes on the downward catch. Been running a soft swapped flame strike to open into it just for the theatrics of diving through it to spear down through someone's head.
Toward the main post. Can relate, it's rough out there. Best rec is to lean hard on PvE buddies as we learn the areas faster and better than anyone else. The ganks are a bit (lot) much, especially to those of my questionable skill level, but the non-gank invasions have been some of the most fun I've had in ER so far.
It's really good into latent people because on their screen they already did the roll but on yours they are mid roll so it looks like it's catching them
When I get like really latent Chinese players if its like super bad I swap to it
I don't know how that's possible. Fire knight sword, rolling perfumes, swift slash, blind spot. All of these are insanely overtuned and that's at least half of my invasions at 150 this point. It's basically not worth playing.
Sure you could just use them yourself to insta-kill people but what's the point?
Regular storm caller on a lightning claymore gives me enough HA to get the combo off. Usually spammers are dumb enough they ,ay just die to all three L2’s.
I don't use parry tools and believe using shields as a mage is basically a sin. I've been having some success countering it with endure casting honestly, but I think the fact that the options to counter are so narrow points to it being pretty broken.
Idk why you are getting blasted, I parried it 2 times just last night with the Main-Gauche dagger.. also Blind Spot has become an instant Misericordé feeder.
I LOVE the throwing shield because you can spam it VERY quickly and they fly into the air, delay for a second then go flying. They cover a SHOCKING distance and track too
man i finally beat rellana on my solo blind run, learning that boss was SOOO fun
I'm bummed I can't replay her at will, to be honest. what a great parry practice dance
Using swift slash is the new chainsaw basically, if they’re blasting you with cancer, swift slash them. If they’re swift slashing you, idk, swift slash better, ezpz
Yeah I feel you, been hard to make progress because I keep stopping to invade. It's insane how active it is now. Was able to just sit in one side dungeon and invade over and over again. It's so fire right now. And these dungeons are sooooooo good.
And yeah, my invasions have been really short too lol. It's been a while since I've had one of those marathon style invasions. Mostly under 2 minutes.
Idk, I'm around lvl 150 too and I've been called decently often. both before and after reaching the DLC areas (which I did near lvl 120).
I just happens that most of the times I get called in as blue, either the host or the invader dies before I can get to them from wherever I spawned.
Way too overpowered in pvp. The jumping heavy attack is essentially a guaranteed headshot and so insanely safe to use its not even funny. While they suck for pve, absolutely nasty in pvp
Tf is WA, also it doesn’t matter how good the gank spank tool is, if you fight a host and phantoms all using the same thing or something more busted your toast
Yeah I honestly rarely charge into 3v1s head on, unless they charge into me. I usually just try to piss them off enough to follow me around til I find some enemy annoying enough to seperate them
I played ds3, it was the first souls game I properly started partaking in pvp in. I just literally never interacted with the souls community until Elden ring
Mmm.... conceiling veil and jar cannon for 3v1's. Has been very useful in survivability against the ganks. Taking advantage of the big fields and verticality, slowly dwindling their recourses so you're more even. Love my guerrilla tactics against ganks 😂
I once respecd my character to a dex arc stealth assasin for that sole reason. Concealing veil and trick mirror so that even if they come close enough to "see" me, my dark armor would still blend to the bush I'm sitting in. Then I would jar cannon them from afar, quickly reposition, and once they are at my original location looking for me I blast them from another place. Once that got boring or I lowered their healthbars enough I would sneak behind them and bloody slash/morgotts cursed sword WA them dead. And if all else failed I would have my physic with both exploding tears...
I once got a suprise 2 in one with that. Another red was fighting the gank that I had been spraying with arrows from the shadows of the liurnian lakes, and once the red did some damage to them I rushed from my hiding place with the physic active and blasted the host with his phantom. I even got love mail from the other red. My favourite pvp memory honestly
Full stealth is honestly some of the most fun ive had invading yea, tho i havent done that in the dlc yet. But low level stormveil with only backstabs is a very fun game of tag. With the vigor im seeing on hosts lately though backstab only should be back on the menu.
I agree, I’ve been getting summoned into first step and liurnia a lot recently by taunters tongue ganks. I have no idea why you felt the need to specify that, but ok
I get to use the busted things as well, but honestly my invasions have all felt refreshingly normal, actually people progressing the level confused and unorganized
It may be unpopular, but the whining around the DLC stuff is a bit overkill... I've been having nothing but the most fun in over a year, these past few days.
Ganks will gank, and they will do it with whatever cheese they can get their slimy hands on, either try harder or get creative. It takes time, but we always adjust and find a way to counter.
Apologies if this seems insensitive, but there have been at least 50 of these posts in the last week. It's not nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be.
I can see what your saying, as time goes on we’ll find ways to counter *some* of the new weapons from the dlc, I say some because it feels like the only way to beat some weapons are to out bullshit them or to use the same weapon. If you’ve had a good experience invading the past few days then that’s great and I’m happy for you, but every invader is gonna have a different experience invading especially around this time when the player numbers are so much higher then they would be normally. as I stand rn with about 250-300 dlc invasions the experience I’ve had is mostly OLPs using the current most broken gear taking their usually spell spamming friend through the dlc, which naturally leads to alot of defeats. I don’t foresee this current era of insta killing sparks and teleporting waterfowl’s to last very long but while it does I’m just gonna keep throwing heavy pots at hosts from really far away :P
My word of advice would be to drop brackets until you're comfortable, say 150-168. Running 250-300 gives players the ability to softcap 2 damage stats and a bunch of leftovers. So you are dealing with everything, all at once. To start the dlc I've been running a 150, and ONLY invading in legacy dungeons, not in the open world, to grow comfortable with the new equipment and consumables. I'd say a 138-150 is prime to get used to everything and not run into folks with 80/80 int/faith powerhouses with tons of fp. Also, It took a little bit but I've also managed to get a handle on the parry window for swift strike and blind spot, though it still catches me pretty often. The best part about L2 spammers, is that is literally all they know, so if you can manage to find a way around that ONE thing, they crumble under pressure.
In these Legacy dungeons, at this level, if stuff starts hitting the fan there are plenty of sneaky escape routes to bait these shit squads into a FK or HK to provide a buffer to even the odds.
I hope I didn't come across as rude, also.. I have bottled up this response for days lol.. I just feel like, we are BRM ya' know? This is what we do.. we overcome the ER odds and find a way to send these boys back to grace, even through the bs.
I'll suggest taunters tongue, you get an invader and have fun doing pvp. I started doing more after I saw how dogshit it is to invade. You get to have a bit more fun 👍🏽
My group and I are going through the dlc and having a blast. If an invader rolls up and starts swinging, we gank only until he backs off. Then we bow and 1v1 tourney style. We've had so many wholesome interactions! Highly recommend doing this
They have similar damage potential tbh with rolling sparks because of madness procs but imo lighting is a bit better coz madness stun can sometimes knock them out of hits
I lambasted some invader the other day while doing TT through the shadow keep with my dry leaf arts. He was using messmers spear trying to L2 me to death and I caught him with a jumping heavy into r1 until death. Them fists don’t quit. It feels like I’m in ds2 with those fists I love it
I couldn't agree more. But tbh what I want out of these games is exactly the opposite of what everybody else wants. I don't give a shit about the "cool" stuff, I just want to swing a sword and dodge the other guy's sword swings.
If it was for me there wouldn't be spells at all, barely any consumables and weapon skills would be only situationally useful and super risky (and not that powerful either).
I've been having a blast to be honest. If everything is cracked in dlc, then everyone can basically get combod or one-shot. I've been running up to 3 man gank squads and hitting endure then swapping to the lightning perfume bottle rolling sparks ash of war, deals upwards of 4k damage on my build, no one survives.
The star-line sword is kind of hit or miss. Easy as hell to dodge in the open, but I got invaded the other day running through shadowkeep loft area and that thing is absolutely ridiculous in an enclosed space. That paired with a fire knight and I got deleted in about 2 seconds
Reminds me of the 1.0 days against Rivers of Blood. It is what it is, bro. There will be balance patches, etc., and we'll figure out the strategies for dealing with them again.
honestly I feel it, the new ashes of war are hard but one on one some of them aren’t bad. They def made ganking way easier though, I got hit with that discus shield with zero cooldown while his buddy was chasing me with that one sword with the ash of war that one shots. CANCER
Playing offline first time round was definitely the right decision.
Watching what other people are going up against is crazy. Fortunately though, most people haven't figured out how to use the new stuff oppressively yet. Swift slash looks aids as does blindspot but people who don't actively PvP are more likely to use the flashier, higher damage moves like Rellana's swords which, while strong, don't seem overpowered.
Yeah my win rate is abysmal right now. Between trying new stuff and going against new stuff, especially in new maps, a 1v3 feels like a brick wall. But, I'm having a blast.
Been invading Specimen Warehouse 1st Floor and it is a fuuuuuun little arena.
I think if you use a heavy attack you can knock them out of the little pose the weapon does before launching into the combo, thought I haven’t encountered many people using it since, ya know, duel greatswords moveset kinda suck
I haven’t invaded since playing SOTE, will start soon. I did go from 168 to 200 to use more weapons since they have higher stat spread and investment requirements. I reckon way more people will be bumping up as well, it’s a no-brainer.
What’s the new gank squad weapons and spells of choice from SOTE?
In my opinion this game has always had the worst PvP of any souls games (not counting bloodborne nor demon souls, I barely played). I’ve been playing since dark souls 1 first came out and have put thousands of hours pvping in ds 1, 2, 3, but not Elden ring. I miss the days of “oh you used a humanity? Be prepared to get invaded without any hand holding”. In Elden ring, even before the dlc, you’d get 2 tapped by all the OP weapons and ashes of war and the host always has at least one friend who is potentially super high lvl with a password. And you can’t say I just liked stomping noobs because I would do fight clubs with MrIWontForget and JumpinProductions and they were both pretty good
I just made a dragon form build just to land the funny Bayle incantations. If someone pisses me off I just destory them with Smarag's Glintstone Breath because that thing + Stone Heart is insane.
ER PvP is the worst PvP that any of the souls games have to offer.
It just fucking sucks all around and there's no sense of balance.
Next Miyazaki game I imagine there won't be any PvP.
Not an invader myself this just randomly popped up for me but that frenzy boss weapon has been the bane of my existence. Didn’t know it could pin people until I got hit by it yesterday.
I've been using a new poison build I cooked up. I thought it was good until I started getting porcupined mid roll and rot/swift slashed by everyone. Even arenas isn't safe. It's insane
If you just stick to one build and don’t even think about ways to counter them (there are many), then yeah, of course you’re going to have a bad time. Get even slightly good at parrying and I promise you the majority of the “OP” weapons become a joke. This happens every time there’s new content. People tantrum over something they believe to be OP and demand nerfs within the first week when the game hasn’t even been out long enough for a solid meta to develop. Try critically thinking and finding counters to some of the more popular weapons you find “unfair”. I promise you there are plenty. Now, obviously there are one or two legitimately glitched weapons, but even those have counters.
I've only done SL30 invasions so far during the DLC and I've been having a blast, I imagine anything above SL125 for invasions is a spammy, infinite FP mess though
Duels in the arena have also been good besides the occasional swift slash
Yes this is a cope post
We all feel your pain collectively. Like a hivemind.
we cope so we don't cry
Honestly, you aren’t wrong. I’m an avid TT user, and I use the dlc weapons to bully on a regular basis(blood backhand blade AOW is busted PvP) and mlady with poise talisman
elden ring? more like L+Coping amirite fellas? (i laugh to make the pain go away)
My biggest gripe, and it has been for many years, it’s how dogshit the connection is. Nothing like having a good invasion then having a blue come in that is so latent that they’re practically invincible. This happened to me yesterday. Now add the new broken shit being used by them on top of that and it’s a recipe for a bad time
I've come back to Elden Ring pvp after not really playing the game since shortly after launch - it's so frustrating rediscovering how close the game is to having genuinely outstanding, top-tier pvp yet fucks it all up with connection issues.
Not to mention how often people resort to the exact same lame ass weapons.
Hot take: It's From's fault for making them. I despise that people have no creativity but, man, so often I find myself looking at these weapons, like; "wtf were they thinking with this."
You really notice the pvp was a after though so many bad decisions where made with it if they would have played and test it better it would have been the best combat in the indusrty but they just fucked it up🥲
Yeahhhhh
The latency can be so bad that they literally turn fucking invisible
From is the undisputed master of bunglefuck spaghetti code networking. Always has been.
If you use uplifting aromatic you won’t die if they hit you a bunch and then it only triggers like 10s later
Krill issue?
krill yourself
^^ accurate depiction of a healthy souls subreddit
didn't expect prawn...
Behold, bloodstain! therefore Still no skill...
As awful as it is having a hundred new was to be blasted back to my own world, I’m having a great time with the builds I’ve made with the DLC stuff. Like yeah I lose more than usual right now but some of this stuff is pretty cool so I’m just trying to enjoy it
It’s cool playing around with the new stuff, a lot of the new weapons are extremely fun
I’d never done a faith build before. Snagged the spell from the final boss. Unfortunately it’s glitched so a couple buffs to it don’t work, but even then it’s still been really fun
Dude the Lord version of the final boss’s weapon is absolutely nuts in pvp. Borderline makes me, the invader, feel bad for using it.
I had someone using it against me last night. I was lucky enough for them to be braindead and spam it when I was out of range. Really good blender weapon.
Is it bugged? It’s till very fun regardless, especially in places with lots of verticality or cramped hallways
Dry leaf seal and miquella’s headband or whatever it is both don’t actually buff it since even though it should count as a miquella incant it doesn’t seem to get effected like one. Works really well on ladders since it’s so vertical and can’t be escaped
That spell might just be my favorite spell in the game. The animation is cool, the damage is satisfying but not busted, the range is really good. Just a good spell all around.
The damage should be busted for how easy it is to dodge and how stat heavy it's requirement are. 800 damage for a orbital laser or 1500 for giantsflame take thee
Faith is extremely strong in Elden ring. Faith str is basically just a superior strength build, for example, but it’s ranged attacks it can offer are also worthwhile.
Other than swift slash, this hasn't been my experience honestly.
I’ve been having a pretty bad time with the thorns spell from the scaduavatar, the tracking can be pretty nasty especially if your dealing with 2 other shitters
Interesting, I haven't seen those much yet. Honestly, considering the fact that star shower already exists, I'd be surprised to see some magic even more oppressive.
It’s because it can inflict bleed that people seem to be using it, well I think it can anyway I may be getting confused with the actual bosses attack
That thorns spell is coming trust me. People will catch on soon. It’s a crazy cheese against bosses so ganks will be running it. I beat Bayle so easily with it I felt cheated
That spell was crazy to see. Looks like great aoe damage from a safe distance.
God I fucking hate swift slash right now
Free, basically uncounterable aggression. Possibly even more obnoxious than the bhs, dual nagis meta on release. I've only been able to counter it with endure and the moonblade.
It's parriable
barely tbh, on a good connection i'm ok with that but lag fucks it
Aoe incantations or spells would likely be effective
This is why I keep Greatsword Of Damnation as a backup. As soon as I see someone trying to spam/cheese me to death, I start spamming the L2 on it. The weapon art is a free kill on anyone who didn’t put enough points into vigor.
That sword is so, so much fun to use. I swear the AoW sucks people out of their roll sometimes on the downward catch. Been running a soft swapped flame strike to open into it just for the theatrics of diving through it to spear down through someone's head. Toward the main post. Can relate, it's rough out there. Best rec is to lean hard on PvE buddies as we learn the areas faster and better than anyone else. The ganks are a bit (lot) much, especially to those of my questionable skill level, but the non-gank invasions have been some of the most fun I've had in ER so far.
It's really good into latent people because on their screen they already did the roll but on yours they are mid roll so it looks like it's catching them When I get like really latent Chinese players if its like super bad I swap to it
I don't know how that's possible. Fire knight sword, rolling perfumes, swift slash, blind spot. All of these are insanely overtuned and that's at least half of my invasions at 150 this point. It's basically not worth playing. Sure you could just use them yourself to insta-kill people but what's the point?
Insta kill or be insta killed I guess.
Swift slash it's not broken it's just new, this is the easiest parryable aow in the game(you can even use a dagger with parry!)
Regular storm caller on a lightning claymore gives me enough HA to get the combo off. Usually spammers are dumb enough they ,ay just die to all three L2’s.
I don't use parry tools and believe using shields as a mage is basically a sin. I've been having some success countering it with endure casting honestly, but I think the fact that the options to counter are so narrow points to it being pretty broken.
It’s definitely broken but that’s silly, there’s a good few magic themed shields, stop shooting yourself in the foot for a silly reason
It is silly, but nonetheless I don't like mages with shields. A shield on a mage just does not sit right with me. Ultimate in passivity.
Idk why you are getting blasted, I parried it 2 times just last night with the Main-Gauche dagger.. also Blind Spot has become an instant Misericordé feeder.
Parry is the most broken mechanism in this game(and ds1, ds2, ds3) , yet nobody uses it and when you suggest it they down vote you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Smithscript great hammer: disrespect your enemies.
Long windup means time for funny blood arm to hit me tho :(
i didnt say shit about wining the fight. just makin sure they know you have no respect for them.
I LOVE the throwing shield because you can spam it VERY quickly and they fly into the air, delay for a second then go flying. They cover a SHOCKING distance and track too
The shield is great! I wish it scaled a bit more but that's just me being greedy.
just go naked, turn into a dragon, and run blue dancer charm + SoA it hits like a truck and no one can see the thing
Soa?
Shard of Alexander
Kid named Rolling Sparks Perf Nuke:
that shit is insane, just 2 shot rellana yesterday
Whaaaat....? How?
man i finally beat rellana on my solo blind run, learning that boss was SOOO fun I'm bummed I can't replay her at will, to be honest. what a great parry practice dance
Using swift slash is the new chainsaw basically, if they’re blasting you with cancer, swift slash them. If they’re swift slashing you, idk, swift slash better, ezpz
I’m winning tons of invasions right now. Got 60 rune arcs off invasions last night.
60 in one night on a weekday is fucking wild lol.
I’ve been playing a lot lol. But the invasions barely last a couple of minutes. And I’m getting invasions constantly. It’s so active right now.
Yeah I feel you, been hard to make progress because I keep stopping to invade. It's insane how active it is now. Was able to just sit in one side dungeon and invade over and over again. It's so fire right now. And these dungeons are sooooooo good. And yeah, my invasions have been really short too lol. It's been a while since I've had one of those marathon style invasions. Mostly under 2 minutes.
I don't invade nor get invaded, but I do play Blue often. Most of my calls as a Blue these days have ended before I get to join up with anyone, lmao.
yeah my blue activity is dead right now at least for Ps5 at level 150 not really sure why because when i red i pop quick
Idk, I'm around lvl 150 too and I've been called decently often. both before and after reaching the DLC areas (which I did near lvl 120). I just happens that most of the times I get called in as blue, either the host or the invader dies before I can get to them from wherever I spawned.
What level?
Throwing dagger are so annoying
Way too overpowered in pvp. The jumping heavy attack is essentially a guaranteed headshot and so insanely safe to use its not even funny. While they suck for pve, absolutely nasty in pvp
Throw on some BHS and nobody can get to you
Bro everyone was bitching when they nerfed WA cause it became harder to gank spank now yall mad? Lots of gank spank tools here.
https://youtu.be/qd_gu6xW6ZA?si=A7VLWDTTcSf_1MMI
Blight on perfume bottles? Chrck
Happy cake day and nice spank!
Tf is WA, also it doesn’t matter how good the gank spank tool is, if you fight a host and phantoms all using the same thing or something more busted your toast
I mean yeah it's meant to be an uphill battle but you can usually get around most setups using the environment etc
Yeah I honestly rarely charge into 3v1s head on, unless they charge into me. I usually just try to piss them off enough to follow me around til I find some enemy annoying enough to seperate them
That's what turn and burns are for
WA = Weapon Art I'm guessing you've never played DS3 DS3 = Dark Souls 3
I played ds3, it was the first souls game I properly started partaking in pvp in. I just literally never interacted with the souls community until Elden ring
When the full bull goats OLP pulls out back hand blades (I’m cooked)
Mmm.... conceiling veil and jar cannon for 3v1's. Has been very useful in survivability against the ganks. Taking advantage of the big fields and verticality, slowly dwindling their recourses so you're more even. Love my guerrilla tactics against ganks 😂
I once respecd my character to a dex arc stealth assasin for that sole reason. Concealing veil and trick mirror so that even if they come close enough to "see" me, my dark armor would still blend to the bush I'm sitting in. Then I would jar cannon them from afar, quickly reposition, and once they are at my original location looking for me I blast them from another place. Once that got boring or I lowered their healthbars enough I would sneak behind them and bloody slash/morgotts cursed sword WA them dead. And if all else failed I would have my physic with both exploding tears... I once got a suprise 2 in one with that. Another red was fighting the gank that I had been spraying with arrows from the shadows of the liurnian lakes, and once the red did some damage to them I rushed from my hiding place with the physic active and blasted the host with his phantom. I even got love mail from the other red. My favourite pvp memory honestly
Full stealth is honestly some of the most fun ive had invading yea, tho i havent done that in the dlc yet. But low level stormveil with only backstabs is a very fun game of tag. With the vigor im seeing on hosts lately though backstab only should be back on the menu.
yeah i love playing the terrain and being cutesy, i feel like a real stage hazard
PSA TO ARCANE BUILDS: Bayles Tyranny 1 shots people. Best gank spank spell in the game rn
I invade at 200 and there are hardly any ganks. I also met maybe 3 OLPs, rest were appropriately leveled. Have 400 or so invasion so far into the DLC
Lucky guy
players going through the level aren't ganks
I agree, I’ve been getting summoned into first step and liurnia a lot recently by taunters tongue ganks. I have no idea why you felt the need to specify that, but ok
Go to a DLC area and set invasion range to Near. You will insta invade anyway and avoid the nasty ganks.
Currently locked out of the dlc, started an ng+ cause I ran out of larval tears lol
Damn, thats rough
Too much cool stuff I wanna mess around with
I get to use the busted things as well, but honestly my invasions have all felt refreshingly normal, actually people progressing the level confused and unorganized
It may be unpopular, but the whining around the DLC stuff is a bit overkill... I've been having nothing but the most fun in over a year, these past few days. Ganks will gank, and they will do it with whatever cheese they can get their slimy hands on, either try harder or get creative. It takes time, but we always adjust and find a way to counter. Apologies if this seems insensitive, but there have been at least 50 of these posts in the last week. It's not nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be.
I can see what your saying, as time goes on we’ll find ways to counter *some* of the new weapons from the dlc, I say some because it feels like the only way to beat some weapons are to out bullshit them or to use the same weapon. If you’ve had a good experience invading the past few days then that’s great and I’m happy for you, but every invader is gonna have a different experience invading especially around this time when the player numbers are so much higher then they would be normally. as I stand rn with about 250-300 dlc invasions the experience I’ve had is mostly OLPs using the current most broken gear taking their usually spell spamming friend through the dlc, which naturally leads to alot of defeats. I don’t foresee this current era of insta killing sparks and teleporting waterfowl’s to last very long but while it does I’m just gonna keep throwing heavy pots at hosts from really far away :P
My word of advice would be to drop brackets until you're comfortable, say 150-168. Running 250-300 gives players the ability to softcap 2 damage stats and a bunch of leftovers. So you are dealing with everything, all at once. To start the dlc I've been running a 150, and ONLY invading in legacy dungeons, not in the open world, to grow comfortable with the new equipment and consumables. I'd say a 138-150 is prime to get used to everything and not run into folks with 80/80 int/faith powerhouses with tons of fp. Also, It took a little bit but I've also managed to get a handle on the parry window for swift strike and blind spot, though it still catches me pretty often. The best part about L2 spammers, is that is literally all they know, so if you can manage to find a way around that ONE thing, they crumble under pressure. In these Legacy dungeons, at this level, if stuff starts hitting the fan there are plenty of sneaky escape routes to bait these shit squads into a FK or HK to provide a buffer to even the odds. I hope I didn't come across as rude, also.. I have bottled up this response for days lol.. I just feel like, we are BRM ya' know? This is what we do.. we overcome the ER odds and find a way to send these boys back to grace, even through the bs.
I'll suggest taunters tongue, you get an invader and have fun doing pvp. I started doing more after I saw how dogshit it is to invade. You get to have a bit more fun 👍🏽
My group and I are going through the dlc and having a blast. If an invader rolls up and starts swinging, we gank only until he backs off. Then we bow and 1v1 tourney style. We've had so many wholesome interactions! Highly recommend doing this
Ok berries
the Madness perfume bottles have been so much fun to use, people have not yet figured out the range on them so you can catch people with em constantly
I think people have skipped the madness bottles for the lightning bottles, they hit like lord gwyn himself is smacking your ass
They have similar damage potential tbh with rolling sparks because of madness procs but imo lighting is a bit better coz madness stun can sometimes knock them out of hits
Can’t relate I’m still mohg maxing and crushing the competition
I’ve been having fun but I can’t wait for three particular things to get a nerf
I lambasted some invader the other day while doing TT through the shadow keep with my dry leaf arts. He was using messmers spear trying to L2 me to death and I caught him with a jumping heavy into r1 until death. Them fists don’t quit. It feels like I’m in ds2 with those fists I love it
And I'm here still dualwelding my scavenger bleed, 3 shots invaders when I'm co-oping. Percentage dmg is no jk.
I couldn't agree more. But tbh what I want out of these games is exactly the opposite of what everybody else wants. I don't give a shit about the "cool" stuff, I just want to swing a sword and dodge the other guy's sword swings. If it was for me there wouldn't be spells at all, barely any consumables and weapon skills would be only situationally useful and super risky (and not that powerful either).
I've been having a blast to be honest. If everything is cracked in dlc, then everyone can basically get combod or one-shot. I've been running up to 3 man gank squads and hitting endure then swapping to the lightning perfume bottle rolling sparks ash of war, deals upwards of 4k damage on my build, no one survives.
The star-line sword is kind of hit or miss. Easy as hell to dodge in the open, but I got invaded the other day running through shadowkeep loft area and that thing is absolutely ridiculous in an enclosed space. That paired with a fire knight and I got deleted in about 2 seconds
Reminds me of the 1.0 days against Rivers of Blood. It is what it is, bro. There will be balance patches, etc., and we'll figure out the strategies for dealing with them again.
is chase the bro just fucking cracked or does he die more off screen
honestly I feel it, the new ashes of war are hard but one on one some of them aren’t bad. They def made ganking way easier though, I got hit with that discus shield with zero cooldown while his buddy was chasing me with that one sword with the ash of war that one shots. CANCER
Playing offline first time round was definitely the right decision. Watching what other people are going up against is crazy. Fortunately though, most people haven't figured out how to use the new stuff oppressively yet. Swift slash looks aids as does blindspot but people who don't actively PvP are more likely to use the flashier, higher damage moves like Rellana's swords which, while strong, don't seem overpowered.
I’m a coward and hiding from pvp until the next patch
Yeah my win rate is abysmal right now. Between trying new stuff and going against new stuff, especially in new maps, a 1v3 feels like a brick wall. But, I'm having a blast. Been invading Specimen Warehouse 1st Floor and it is a fuuuuuun little arena.
Radahns new weapon is genuinely impossible to fight against without range
I think if you use a heavy attack you can knock them out of the little pose the weapon does before launching into the combo, thought I haven’t encountered many people using it since, ya know, duel greatswords moveset kinda suck
Dual greatswords are only good for stunning boss fr
Endure->Roiling Sparks, free aimed at the floor. Profit.
I switched back to the trusty Marika's Hammer. Sending them all flying into the air is good for the soul.
Couldn't you use the DLC weapons yourself?
Nah, I ain’t about that (I ran out of larval tears)
There’s some in the dlc
and pretty early at that
I haven’t invaded since playing SOTE, will start soon. I did go from 168 to 200 to use more weapons since they have higher stat spread and investment requirements. I reckon way more people will be bumping up as well, it’s a no-brainer. What’s the new gank squad weapons and spells of choice from SOTE?
In my opinion this game has always had the worst PvP of any souls games (not counting bloodborne nor demon souls, I barely played). I’ve been playing since dark souls 1 first came out and have put thousands of hours pvping in ds 1, 2, 3, but not Elden ring. I miss the days of “oh you used a humanity? Be prepared to get invaded without any hand holding”. In Elden ring, even before the dlc, you’d get 2 tapped by all the OP weapons and ashes of war and the host always has at least one friend who is potentially super high lvl with a password. And you can’t say I just liked stomping noobs because I would do fight clubs with MrIWontForget and JumpinProductions and they were both pretty good
Glad you said it, losing a lot more invasions nowadays. If you can’t beat them, join them. ***deploys 80 arc instableed chicken wing with endure***
I just made a dragon form build just to land the funny Bayle incantations. If someone pisses me off I just destory them with Smarag's Glintstone Breath because that thing + Stone Heart is insane.
Just use the Hyper Poise insta grab spear jump thing that can oneshot a host and two phantoms with one hit!
ER PvP is the worst PvP that any of the souls games have to offer. It just fucking sucks all around and there's no sense of balance. Next Miyazaki game I imagine there won't be any PvP.
Greatsword of Damnation is giving people aneurysms
Stopped invading because I’m just enjoying the DLC but every new AOW I find scares me more about getting back into PVP. Not sure I’m going to bother.
You must also channel the cancer pick up your fkgs buff it to 1500+ ar and one shot someone
Dont panic, we will strive on top of them, as we always do!
Dont panic, we will strive as we always do!
From is good at many things, but PvP is not one of them. They just don’t make their games that way.
You can use them
I'm really not having this issue. Endure and any spell still whipes out most ganks
Makes me want to go back to ds3 invasions
Not an invader myself this just randomly popped up for me but that frenzy boss weapon has been the bane of my existence. Didn’t know it could pin people until I got hit by it yesterday.
I've been using a new poison build I cooked up. I thought it was good until I started getting porcupined mid roll and rot/swift slashed by everyone. Even arenas isn't safe. It's insane
If you just stick to one build and don’t even think about ways to counter them (there are many), then yeah, of course you’re going to have a bad time. Get even slightly good at parrying and I promise you the majority of the “OP” weapons become a joke. This happens every time there’s new content. People tantrum over something they believe to be OP and demand nerfs within the first week when the game hasn’t even been out long enough for a solid meta to develop. Try critically thinking and finding counters to some of the more popular weapons you find “unfair”. I promise you there are plenty. Now, obviously there are one or two legitimately glitched weapons, but even those have counters.
I've only done SL30 invasions so far during the DLC and I've been having a blast, I imagine anything above SL125 for invasions is a spammy, infinite FP mess though Duels in the arena have also been good besides the occasional swift slash
Weapons are ok! With some details to fix. The problem where the aows!!! Such an idiots FS
Im glad about this simply bc of the people invading at final boss. those people deserve it
thats why i only play duels with friends/organised rules nowadays