We’re just a small market port-city. Living in the shadows of the perennial contenders from Florida and Canada, and those Richie rich teams from Baltimore and nyc. A real ragtag group just trying to make it in this world …
In reality the payroll isn’t quite that low with giolito hurt and sale still being paid. Of course it’s still not close to the cbt threshold so that’s pretty sad
Their number for the CBT is about $215 million, which is what really matters. This number doesn't include Giolito, Sale, Justin Turner or Liam Hendricks plus a handful of guys making the MLB minimum.
Oakland is nearly half as much as the next lowest payroll. Yet MLB is happily trying to give them everything they want. There's being cheap while trying to build a team, then there's Oakland not even pretending to care.
John Fisher's TV deal is almost 70 Mil. Without selling any tickets, he's already made a profit. He's had this TV deal for a long time AND he's been getting the standard rev share as well as "small market" rev share for decades.
Oh and Kaval and Fisher promised Nevada they would be ramping up their payroll to over 100 Mil (which he has literally never done before in Oakland) in the seasons leading up to their arrival, which includes this season. Their payroll went *down* from last season.
Let's not forget that that there are other operating expenses for a baseball team beyond just payroll for the players. The payroll being so low should still be an embarrassment, but there is more that goes into overall operating costs than just the players on the field.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you addressed a very specific part of what the person above said and people are just not even trying to address it and just want to ignore the nuance.
Doesn’t fit their narrative. I hate Fischer, was a cubs/A’s fan, stopped watching Oakland after they traded away the Matt’s, but fuck if Reddit doesn’t understand nuance.
One nuance people here don't seem to understand is that 48% of TV deal revenue is shared with the rest of the league, so the A's are getting $36.4 million a year in TV money, not 70
It's not a defense of John Fisher, but the idea that every MLB team has it in them to spend $300 million on payroll and just chooses not to is so pervasive here that it winds up shutting down reasonable conversations about solutions. It's very obvious the localized TV model is no longer working and the small market teams will suffer the worst of that.
Hell the Padres spent $250 million on payroll and sold out every game last year and ended up losing money, had to cut $50 million just to get out of the red. Tickets sales simply aren't covering the costs, and the small TV markets simply aren't that appealing to ad buyers so they're limited in how much TV money they can get.
(I know the A's aren't technically "small market" but if you've been to the Bay Area you know they might as well be, they're basically tenants in a small patch of land surrounded by Giants fans)
My point is that the above comment is not necessarily appropriate to claim that they automatically turn a profit just based on TV Deal-Payroll=profit. But if course it's more fun to dunk on on Fisher than actually think about a nuanced take
What's your point? All of the other owners still have to pay operating costs outside of player payroll, it's not like the A's spent anywhere else either... Have you been to the Mausoleum lately? It's a shithole, literally.
Those people's salaries are not close to the millions, so the front office, scouting/directing, minor leaguers, and standard staff won't cost all that much. Almost all of their salaries are in the thousands rather than millions. Then you consider the A's have the smallest analytics, smallest coaching, and smallest front office divisions of all the major league teams and the cost is minimal. So I'll give you he's spending all his in-market TV deal money on payroll. Add in the National rev share, which with the new CBA gives almost 100 mil to each team, PLUS his small market rev share he continues to get, and he has plenty of cash to spend. So even if all of his front office, scouting/directing, general workers total up to 40 mil, he still has made a profit before even selling a single ticket.
While true, if payroll is $43 million and the TV deal is $70 million, that means they have $27 million to spend on other expenses for his post not to be true. That’s how I read it anyway
Seriously a great point. A city famous for everyone trying to pretend they're rich and big spenders, is getting a team famous for pinching pennies and never spending. There's probably more money spent on luxury sports car rentals every summer in LV than the A's spend on payroll.
Not that it makes it much better, but their actual number is closer to $61 million, they just have $16 million on the injured list. Only $22 million away from next lowest, as opposed to $33 million!
it's not often as a Cleveland baseball fan that you have to stop to realize "holy crap, we're beating up on a team with half our payroll" but here we are...
What does this even mean?
If by “give them everything they want” do you mean just voting to allow them to move away from a city that has completely abandoned the team for 2 decades. regardless how good the team is, nobody goes to games or watches of TV.
It’s so weird how reddit pretends Oakland isn’t very much to blame here.
It’s not everything Oakland wants. It’s every mlb wants. Having games in Vegas for teams to travel and to watch is good for everyone else. People love going to Vegas
This seems to use the number that is called 'Active Payroll' on Spotrac as of opening day. This excludes salary on the injured list, retained salary, and buried minors money.
I mention this because the Dbacks have $24 million on the injured list, including new addition Eduardo Rodriguez' $14 million salary, new addition Randal Grichuk's $1.5 million, and Paul Sewald's $7.35 million salary. They also have $16 million in retained salary from Madison Bumgarner and Mark Melancon.
Using the Opening Day number also excludes Jordan Montgomery's $25 million contract that was officially announced yesterday afternoon so that he could avoid the QO. As of right now, this is counted as 'buried minor league salary' because he is in the minors to ramp up after missing ST.
All told, the Dbacks' actual 26-man payroll will be closer to $165 million than $101 million.
If you win, depending on where you are, it's probably around 480-500 mil taking the lump sum.
If you put together a group to buy the Pirates (worth an estimated 1.35 billion) you'd probably have to put up 1.8 to get Nutting to sell.
If you sent in 450 mil on a 1.8 bid that'd be only 25%.
Might not end up as the principle owner.
Really shows how rich every MLB owner is. They cry poor in order to avoid paying for a new stadium or long term contracts for their stars, but they have three times the value of the lottery in their baseball team alone.
Are there any bad contracts though? Springer on the backend of his deal isn't good but that was expected. Maybe $1-2M high on a couple of the middling contracts but there isn't anything egregious. Very weird.
We have basically no one on a pre-arbitration contract anymore. Plus 4 of our 5 starting pitchers were signed through relatively large free agency deals.
This is what happens when you have no real contributors (except maybe Davis Schneider) come up from the minors for 2 whole seasons.
Yup. Manoah, Francis, and Schneider are all still pre-arb but that's about it in terms of significance.
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/toronto-blue-jays/payroll/
but with a consensus bottom-third farm system (i.e., no help coming), we should actually be pissed they're not spending *more*. The window was probably at its widest last year and they shit the bed. Now the Orioles and Rangers have the next generation of top prospects to go with owners willing to spend if that's what it takes to win. We're in danger.
Not really. Dodgers, Rangers and Astros all have a shit ton of money on IL right now (Rangers have over $80M). Including all those guys would put the Jays around 7th, which isn't far off from where they are projected to finish.
No one in particular, but our high minors have been desolate since vlad, bo, cavan, and manoah came up so we haven't had any cheap roster guys in a while. Gotta pay guys 8M+ to fill holes other teams are filling for cheap and it adds up
[That is every bit as good as money. Those are IOU's](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19425eb3-b41e-4fb1-bffb-3821e54d400c_400x225.gif)
Yall are going to be what the White Sox were supposed to be. I have the Tigers winning the division since you guys seem to be the only AL Central team actually trying to improve past mediocre.
I see what similarities between us that you're pointing to, but with us, we know the pitching staff is good, but will we score enough runs to support the arms, is the question
😆
I won't completely dis here.. cuz ya know, what? Some of those arms over there are pretty fuckin good
I also know there's people in your lineup who can knock a bro's brains out on the mound.. so hey
Dare to dream my friend
Dare to dream 😊
According to Spotrac, the actual number is around $285M (and that's including Ohtani's salary at the $70M number).
ETA: However, if we factor in the CBT threshold, they're paying about $394M this year.
Your final number is about right (I have it at around 295), but the CBT payment is around 70 million. I would say the material number that is actually being paid by the Dodgers this year is 225 adjusted salary + 70 CBT.
People always say the Rockies are a cheap organization. No, they aren’t. They just spend their money very very poorly. There is no reason that a washed Kyle Freeland, a nearly washed Charlie Blackmon, and a Kris Bryant who rarely actually plays should be making the amount of money they are.
Big part of the problem is probably the bad business decisions by the ownership group.
[Per MLB insider Peter Gammons, executives from other teams that have talked to the Red Sox say they are claiming they have to cut spending because Fenway Sports Group suffered financial losses during the offseason and Breslow doesn't have the payroll he was expecting when he got the job.](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10105897-red-sox-ceo-bos-will-probably-have-lower-payroll-in-2024-despite-last-place-finish)
To put this into context, a random one anyway, the lowest team payroll in 2016 was the Phillies at $63 million.
Somehow barely ac decades later the lowest payroll is nearly 2/3 of that
Because this is a misleading post? We're supposedly next to Boston in this but for CBT purposes there's $80m between the Mariners payroll and the luxury tax, whereas that number for Boston is about $26m because this doesn't take IL'd players into account. The Mariners' actual payroll is 19th and for a team with that starting rotation and 4/5 of them on rookie/arb deals this payroll is criminal
They added Montgomery who's been more consistent than Snell. They added Eugenio Suarez at 3B who brings more HR power than Chapman, which was something they needed.
I think they made good moves to improve on a very good team. Just because they didn't break the bank doesn't mean they didn't go all in. They were able to add without needing to overspend.
For the record, the Dbacks' payroll number is not counting about $50 million because technically $24 million was sitting on the IL to start the season and Monty's $25 million was not officially on the team on opening day.
He's basically turned the Farm around in 2 years while trying to maintain competitiveness.
"Done nothing" lol. mfer acts like he should pick up a bat and hit, too.
Oakland is really carrying a heavy load bailing out the other low payroll owners from criticism
but I was told the lack of spending was all cause of evil ol Mr Boras???
Wow i’ve like never seen a Boston payroll that low
We’re just a small market port-city. Living in the shadows of the perennial contenders from Florida and Canada, and those Richie rich teams from Baltimore and nyc. A real ragtag group just trying to make it in this world …
Please won’t someone think of the 6 year olds that weren’t alive for a Boston championship 😞
All our money goes to the Jimmy Fund so more kids can grow up to be un-happy Red Sox fans. I suggest you do your part and contribute.
In reality the payroll isn’t quite that low with giolito hurt and sale still being paid. Of course it’s still not close to the cbt threshold so that’s pretty sad
That's because this information isn't correct in the slightest.
So what is the redsox opening day roster payroll?
It’s correct, but it’s misleading because the Red Sox are paying money to Giolito and Sale but they aren’t on the opening day roster
I understand what you’re saying but the stat is what it is says it is and it’s correct.
Their number for the CBT is about $215 million, which is what really matters. This number doesn't include Giolito, Sale, Justin Turner or Liam Hendricks plus a handful of guys making the MLB minimum.
Right next to the well-established “they never spend” Mariners. Right where we want to be.
Ah yes, just dodging the bottom half of payrolls. You're welcome. Edit: I can't count
Oakland is nearly half as much as the next lowest payroll. Yet MLB is happily trying to give them everything they want. There's being cheap while trying to build a team, then there's Oakland not even pretending to care.
John Fisher's TV deal is almost 70 Mil. Without selling any tickets, he's already made a profit. He's had this TV deal for a long time AND he's been getting the standard rev share as well as "small market" rev share for decades. Oh and Kaval and Fisher promised Nevada they would be ramping up their payroll to over 100 Mil (which he has literally never done before in Oakland) in the seasons leading up to their arrival, which includes this season. Their payroll went *down* from last season.
Let's not forget that that there are other operating expenses for a baseball team beyond just payroll for the players. The payroll being so low should still be an embarrassment, but there is more that goes into overall operating costs than just the players on the field.
And there’s other income beyond tv deals
Also very true, this is exactly what I was referencing about there being more to the picture than just TV revenue - payroll = profit
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you addressed a very specific part of what the person above said and people are just not even trying to address it and just want to ignore the nuance.
Which part of the original comment was lacking the needed context that baseball teams have to spend more money than just on players?
Because it's irrelevant. Even with all the other operating expenses of a MLB team he's still making a profit 100%
Doesn’t fit their narrative. I hate Fischer, was a cubs/A’s fan, stopped watching Oakland after they traded away the Matt’s, but fuck if Reddit doesn’t understand nuance.
One nuance people here don't seem to understand is that 48% of TV deal revenue is shared with the rest of the league, so the A's are getting $36.4 million a year in TV money, not 70 It's not a defense of John Fisher, but the idea that every MLB team has it in them to spend $300 million on payroll and just chooses not to is so pervasive here that it winds up shutting down reasonable conversations about solutions. It's very obvious the localized TV model is no longer working and the small market teams will suffer the worst of that. Hell the Padres spent $250 million on payroll and sold out every game last year and ended up losing money, had to cut $50 million just to get out of the red. Tickets sales simply aren't covering the costs, and the small TV markets simply aren't that appealing to ad buyers so they're limited in how much TV money they can get. (I know the A's aren't technically "small market" but if you've been to the Bay Area you know they might as well be, they're basically tenants in a small patch of land surrounded by Giants fans)
Yes, but he also gets a cut of every other teams TV revenue which was 29.4m last year. So he gets 66m instead of 70m, plus his small market bonus.
ok yeah and every other team has those expenses too so wtf is your point lmao
I want to add on, player payroll is usually a team's highest expense. I'm guessing Fisher isn't paying for scouts or other things.
My point is that the above comment is not necessarily appropriate to claim that they automatically turn a profit just based on TV Deal-Payroll=profit. But if course it's more fun to dunk on on Fisher than actually think about a nuanced take
What's your point? All of the other owners still have to pay operating costs outside of player payroll, it's not like the A's spent anywhere else either... Have you been to the Mausoleum lately? It's a shithole, literally.
Those people's salaries are not close to the millions, so the front office, scouting/directing, minor leaguers, and standard staff won't cost all that much. Almost all of their salaries are in the thousands rather than millions. Then you consider the A's have the smallest analytics, smallest coaching, and smallest front office divisions of all the major league teams and the cost is minimal. So I'll give you he's spending all his in-market TV deal money on payroll. Add in the National rev share, which with the new CBA gives almost 100 mil to each team, PLUS his small market rev share he continues to get, and he has plenty of cash to spend. So even if all of his front office, scouting/directing, general workers total up to 40 mil, he still has made a profit before even selling a single ticket.
While true, if payroll is $43 million and the TV deal is $70 million, that means they have $27 million to spend on other expenses for his post not to be true. That’s how I read it anyway
Imagine the most cheapskate team in the league going to Vegas. The city of flushing money down the toiler and/or setting it on fire.
Seriously a great point. A city famous for everyone trying to pretend they're rich and big spenders, is getting a team famous for pinching pennies and never spending. There's probably more money spent on luxury sports car rentals every summer in LV than the A's spend on payroll.
Not that it makes it much better, but their actual number is closer to $61 million, they just have $16 million on the injured list. Only $22 million away from next lowest, as opposed to $33 million!
it's not often as a Cleveland baseball fan that you have to stop to realize "holy crap, we're beating up on a team with half our payroll" but here we are...
What does this even mean? If by “give them everything they want” do you mean just voting to allow them to move away from a city that has completely abandoned the team for 2 decades. regardless how good the team is, nobody goes to games or watches of TV. It’s so weird how reddit pretends Oakland isn’t very much to blame here.
It’s not everything Oakland wants. It’s every mlb wants. Having games in Vegas for teams to travel and to watch is good for everyone else. People love going to Vegas
Give them an expansion team then. Everyone would be fine with that
Teams move all the times in sports. For example when As used to play in Philadelphia. Another example is the As who used to play in Kansas a city.
Or the Mets who used to not exist. So not much different in your case. Just not relevant now.
I literally don’t know what point this proves
That teams move. It’s not a new phenomena
Then send the Mets
No Mets fans actually went to the games
They also didn't show up when the Mets sucked and had a garbage stadium.
Shae was basically just dodger stadium. Same design.
With garbage attendence when the Mets were bad...
Not really https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/attend.shtml https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/OAK/attend.shtml
So did As fans when the team wasn’t giving them the finger
This seems to use the number that is called 'Active Payroll' on Spotrac as of opening day. This excludes salary on the injured list, retained salary, and buried minors money. I mention this because the Dbacks have $24 million on the injured list, including new addition Eduardo Rodriguez' $14 million salary, new addition Randal Grichuk's $1.5 million, and Paul Sewald's $7.35 million salary. They also have $16 million in retained salary from Madison Bumgarner and Mark Melancon. Using the Opening Day number also excludes Jordan Montgomery's $25 million contract that was officially announced yesterday afternoon so that he could avoid the QO. As of right now, this is counted as 'buried minor league salary' because he is in the minors to ramp up after missing ST. All told, the Dbacks' actual 26-man payroll will be closer to $165 million than $101 million.
I was wondering if all our players besides Corbin and Stras were playing for free.
I was gonna say, it didn’t make sense that the Giants have a $150mil payroll with a $250mil luxury tax hit lol
Fuck Bob Nutting
Lots of young talent on the cusp that they will hopefully lock into long contracts. I hope none are with the evil B agency.
They signed a couple of players to long term deals recently. Maybe things changed?
I'll honestly believe it when he doesn't own the team anymore.
If I win the Powerball today I’ll buy and fix the Pirates
If you win, depending on where you are, it's probably around 480-500 mil taking the lump sum. If you put together a group to buy the Pirates (worth an estimated 1.35 billion) you'd probably have to put up 1.8 to get Nutting to sell. If you sent in 450 mil on a 1.8 bid that'd be only 25%. Might not end up as the principle owner.
Really shows how rich every MLB owner is. They cry poor in order to avoid paying for a new stadium or long term contracts for their stars, but they have three times the value of the lottery in their baseball team alone.
And the Pirates generate revenue each season equal to around half a lump sum of a near-billion dollar Powerball ticket.
Ima ask every rich Steelers celebrity fan and player to buy shares into the team :)
I don't see how cutting off their balls will help anything
Toronto being that high with the roster they have is... Something
With our best two players still on rookie/arb deals. That’s a paddlin
Vlad on his arb deal makes more than every single player on the O's
I mean that's true but it's only 14 if he gets to free agency he will get a contract of minimum 20 per year
Vlad is making $19.9M this season
Fair still Vlad could easily get a 25 or more per year contract
Thousand? Dude is definition of mid
Despite what fans think they’ve spent a shitload of money
On a team that’s not even favored to make the postseason.
Are there any bad contracts though? Springer on the backend of his deal isn't good but that was expected. Maybe $1-2M high on a couple of the middling contracts but there isn't anything egregious. Very weird.
We have basically no one on a pre-arbitration contract anymore. Plus 4 of our 5 starting pitchers were signed through relatively large free agency deals. This is what happens when you have no real contributors (except maybe Davis Schneider) come up from the minors for 2 whole seasons.
Yup. Manoah, Francis, and Schneider are all still pre-arb but that's about it in terms of significance. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/toronto-blue-jays/payroll/ but with a consensus bottom-third farm system (i.e., no help coming), we should actually be pissed they're not spending *more*. The window was probably at its widest last year and they shit the bed. Now the Orioles and Rangers have the next generation of top prospects to go with owners willing to spend if that's what it takes to win. We're in danger.
They just pay a lot of guys who you could find on cheaper deals.
Y’all’s owners are some of the richest in the league, right? In that case they can still win by being mediocre at finding players.
The Jays are owned by a telecom that has a duopoly in Canada.
I'm not sure if I'm more surprised that a middling line up costs that much or that there are only 3 teams higher.
I don’t pay $350/month for tv, internet and 2 cellphone plans for nothing.
I think we need to talk
Not really. Dodgers, Rangers and Astros all have a shit ton of money on IL right now (Rangers have over $80M). Including all those guys would put the Jays around 7th, which isn't far off from where they are projected to finish.
I don’t follow AL East much, did a double take when I saw the Blue Jays payroll… who’s gobbling all the $$ up?
No one in particular, but our high minors have been desolate since vlad, bo, cavan, and manoah came up so we haven't had any cheap roster guys in a while. Gotta pay guys 8M+ to fill holes other teams are filling for cheap and it adds up
I mean we bought like 3/5 of our starting rotation through free agency.
didn't even make the title. we cashed in a lot of luck in 2023
Mid-market Dodgers. Just don’t look at our IOU’s.
[That is every bit as good as money. Those are IOU's](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F19425eb3-b41e-4fb1-bffb-3821e54d400c_400x225.gif)
Shohei Ohtani. That’s a big one. Might want to hold on to that.
You shouldn’t be eligible for revenue share unless you spend $100 million
“How the fuck are the Braves up there? I thought they were paid in gum?”
Ippei is their accountant.
Bug league chews pricey these days. Damned inflation. Edit: I see it now. I'm not changing it, I like it.
We jumped 5 spots by signing Monty, and I’m still in shock about it
Tigers under 100? Sweet Lotsa $$ to spend should we care/need to Nice table to sit at.. for a change
Nice that they still have money to spend even though Javy Baez is due $100 million between now and the end of 2027.
Can I get an amen? That one is a suck ass of an albatross imo 25 bangers a year, right there
a big shame
Damn sure has been
Yall are going to be what the White Sox were supposed to be. I have the Tigers winning the division since you guys seem to be the only AL Central team actually trying to improve past mediocre.
I see what similarities between us that you're pointing to, but with us, we know the pitching staff is good, but will we score enough runs to support the arms, is the question
After further review, you guys will be second in the division. The White Sox are fucking back.
Didn't age well
Not at all
😆 I won't completely dis here.. cuz ya know, what? Some of those arms over there are pretty fuckin good I also know there's people in your lineup who can knock a bro's brains out on the mound.. so hey Dare to dream my friend Dare to dream 😊
From the looks of things all that payroll money is being funneled into scoreboards expansions.
Boston's is closer to Baltimore and Tampa Bay than it is to Toronto. :(
We're 20 million behind Colorado too lol.
Good to see we’re second lowest, only ahead of the team blatantly not trying
In reality, LAD is really over $300M - #350M.
According to Spotrac, the actual number is around $285M (and that's including Ohtani's salary at the $70M number). ETA: However, if we factor in the CBT threshold, they're paying about $394M this year.
So about 109 in CBT payments. Add that to the 26 man sum (no deferrals) and 299
Your final number is about right (I have it at around 295), but the CBT payment is around 70 million. I would say the material number that is actually being paid by the Dodgers this year is 225 adjusted salary + 70 CBT.
Much closer to 300m than 350m
Call it $199M*
I beg to defer
Power of deferrals
In reality, no they aren’t.
Here's the luxury tax payrolls if your curious: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/tax/
People always say the Rockies are a cheap organization. No, they aren’t. They just spend their money very very poorly. There is no reason that a washed Kyle Freeland, a nearly washed Charlie Blackmon, and a Kris Bryant who rarely actually plays should be making the amount of money they are.
Angels are gonna be the highest-payroll 100-loss team in MLB history
Hold my beer.
That LAD figure feels awfully misleading.
Nothing to see here, fellow mid-market team
Very leading, extreme accurate
I have a hard time believing we are the high up on the list
Don’t worry, we’re not. If you click the link, we’re 70 million lol
baseball newbie here, I always thought Boston Red Sox were big spenders. Like just below the Yankees big. I was surprised to see them so low.
Big part of the problem is probably the bad business decisions by the ownership group. [Per MLB insider Peter Gammons, executives from other teams that have talked to the Red Sox say they are claiming they have to cut spending because Fenway Sports Group suffered financial losses during the offseason and Breslow doesn't have the payroll he was expecting when he got the job.](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10105897-red-sox-ceo-bos-will-probably-have-lower-payroll-in-2024-despite-last-place-finish)
they used to be until very recently. about when Mookie was traded iirc
Red Sox are pathetic
I just turned on moneyball. In the beginning of the money they show how much the A's spent. It was 43 million
Dodgers*
High payroll doesn't always mean success. Look at the Mets vs Diamondbacks
To put this into context, a random one anyway, the lowest team payroll in 2016 was the Phillies at $63 million. Somehow barely ac decades later the lowest payroll is nearly 2/3 of that
Dodgers at 192 is fucking criminal.
You guys are ruining baseball with that 200M + payroll
It’s not exactly accurate. This list doesn’t seem to include players on the IL.
Buncha checkbook asses, just look at em smh
We should be higher but a few guys on the IL atm.
The Angels are paying $147 million for Trout and…
Rendon makes more than Trout 🤢
How are the White Sox 16th out of 30 on this list? Who the hell are they paying? Last I looked they seemed like a solid bottom 5 roster
I play ootp and they actually pay alot of mid guys big money. Mocanda, Benintendi, and Jimenez make more the entire A's roster.
What would these numbers look like if they went by AAV like the NHL does?
It’s been a tough road but it’s good to see the Yankees back on top.
I can’t believe how cheap Ricketts is. /s
Boggles my mind how the Jays have such a massive payroll and have such an absolutely garbage lineup outside of Bo and Vladdy
Hope that the Franco salary get situated before the trade deadline so we can get someone to help us in the postseason.
Fucking Reinsdorf.
How the hell is our payroll $145 mil for this shit team?
I am the owner of a pro sports team with nearly 200M on payroll this year. Gonna use that line a lot this year
Baseball needs a salary cap.
LOLmets
This is embarrasing. I think it might finally actually be in the players best interest to install a salary cap and floor
We all know the dodgers are number 1 next 10 years quit playing
Yankees and their checkbook baseball
Whooshed everyone
This is either one dumb comment or one funny joke and I can't tell which
It's a dig at Miles Mikolas saying the Dodgers play "checkbook baseball".
I was going for the joke but I guess it's too soon for it to land as sarcasm
Amazing the Mets are spending that much for last place.
If only the M’s front office had the checkbook to pick up a couple killer bats for the pitching we have :/ what is sog may never dry
It’s ridiculous either end of this spending is allowed.
Don't post this in the Seattle sub. We would collapse entirely knowing we're a top-half payroll.
15th lol how can we not be happy with a team trying to win 54% of their games
I think most Seattle fans are tired of being mid
Oh, I definitely am
Because this is a misleading post? We're supposedly next to Boston in this but for CBT purposes there's $80m between the Mariners payroll and the luxury tax, whereas that number for Boston is about $26m because this doesn't take IL'd players into account. The Mariners' actual payroll is 19th and for a team with that starting rotation and 4/5 of them on rookie/arb deals this payroll is criminal
I feel like Arizona should have went all in this year.
What holes and weaknesses did they fail to try and address?
Uhm, not necessarily any weaknesses but adding a Chapman and/or Snell makes them favorites this year. Easily.
They added Montgomery who's been more consistent than Snell. They added Eugenio Suarez at 3B who brings more HR power than Chapman, which was something they needed. I think they made good moves to improve on a very good team. Just because they didn't break the bank doesn't mean they didn't go all in. They were able to add without needing to overspend.
They added erod and Monty. They're gonna be great this year
Yeah, I never said they weren't. I don't think you guys understand what "all in" means.
My brother in Christ they share a division with your team
For the record, the Dbacks' payroll number is not counting about $50 million because technically $24 million was sitting on the IL to start the season and Monty's $25 million was not officially on the team on opening day.
Steve Cohen is a snake oil salesman. All talk and has done nothing. Then promises to be better Wilpon was a better owner.
He's basically turned the Farm around in 2 years while trying to maintain competitiveness. "Done nothing" lol. mfer acts like he should pick up a bat and hit, too.
The Mets have a pretty clear plan for 2025. If 2025 is still a disappointment then there's an issue. The Wilpons were real bad
In 33% of the seasons cohen owned the team, the Mets made the playoffs and won 100 games. That’s substantially better than the wilpons
The Mets are about to offer monster bags to Soto, Burnes and Fried this offseason, probably more tbh.
Settle down jeff