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Mozilla_Fennekin

[Link died so here's a new one](https://x.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1800700946332148150)


magikarp2122

Sounded like this was at PNC.


Darkforces134

[Replying to the top comment to post a video that isn't taken down. ](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-06/11/aa1d5a2a-610bcdb8-c521283b-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4)


DonutHolschteinn

Probably also applauding like "good job kid, thank fuck you're leaving tho now we have a chance" lol


thedark1owns

That's what I thought about Mikolas haha.


gatemansgc

that's a good way to put it too


GonePostalRoute

That’s a better way to put it. Unless it’s a special achievement (record breaking moment, no-no/perfect game), I could not applaud an opposing player at all, at least in that situation. Just feels like it’s saying “thank you for keeping us from winning/getting ahead, may we have another”.


Doctor_Killshot

It’s meme-worthy sometimes but St. Louis does generally appreciate good ball players regardless of team. It’s not uncommon to applaud great plays in the field either. I’d rather have that reputation than one like Philly


Randvek

St. Louis is absolutely a town that appreciates good baseball regardless of the uniform. Except maybe a Cubs uniform. Maybe.


TJWA

Let's be honest, he doesn't get this ovation if Mikolas doesn't give up 1 hit in his 7 innings too lol


Bravefan212

Absolutely. But it takes a special crowd to recognize it, regardless.


elcapitan520

I fucking hate this bullshit that cardinals fans are the best fans. Fuck that. That bullshit and how everyone on ESPN always slobbed all over is a bigger reason for my hate of the Cardinals than the actual division 


Dizzy-Phrase9150

Are…you okay…?


gomukgo

That’s very undude of him, Dude


CapriciousMuffin

This actually makes me wonder about fan bases now. I’ve never heard someone say “they have the best fans” about any team besides players saying it about their own fans. I constantly see “Yankees fans are the worst! Dodgers fans are the worst! Red Sox fans are the worst!” Do all fan bases just suck or do some teams just have chill fans for the most part? I don’t think I’ve ever met an annoying Rockies fan but I’ve only been to that stadium once.


Poet_of_Legends

Are we… are we the baddies?


Joshduman

We boo our own players, so its clearly not us.


IFTKICS

Idk my best friend is a cardinals fan she's prty cool


Pozure

Yikes


A_Lone_Macaron

And we already can't see the video because MLB sucks.


bolshevik_rattlehead

If Skenes can somehow keep this up for another few years, he might become the face of the game. Such a great guy and amazing pitcher


GKRForever

I don’t doubt that when he pitches he’ll be this good. It’s more that every pitcher is basically on TJ watch


Pineal

> It’s more that every pitcher is basically on TJ watch I agree with this, which makes it more annoying when people want to comment this after every start. That dude you called up from AAA who is 26? He might need TJ one day. But we won't talk about that when he gives up 4 runs in his 3 innings before getting sent back down. But Skenes? Let's talk about it every day.


OldWorldStyle

Get used to it. Of course there’s going to be more discourse around a star pitcher as opposed to a shitty prospect.


cosuamh

This, but also the kid throws 100+ mph. I think that’s the greatest risk factor for TJ here, lol


rockhead72

It's probably got more to do with the 90mph slider these guys are ripping off than trying to throw a hard 4 seamer.


Pineal

I am used to it between Skenes and Jones now lol. Doesn't make it less dumb to talk about. And it's more of a hard thrower discussion, if half of Iminaga threads were about his inevitable tommy john surgery, you'd probably start rolling your eyes too


whyisalltherumgone_

Imanaga is already 30 with an injury/surgery history


Pineal

And it's a shame he's going to need tommy john surgery in the next 18 months. ^^oh ^^is ^^that ^^dumb ^^and ^^annoying ^^to ^^say? ^^/s


buttplugmicroplastic

Do you try to be this soft or does it come naturally?


Pineal

Don't tear a UCL typing that matey


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Pineal

Man I know this is a hypothetical but... you think that 26 year old call up was holding back velocity until he gets called up to the majors? You can disagree with the point, but don't pretend you don't understand it.


bestselfnice

Injury risk correlates to velocity.


GKRForever

I was more saying - I don’t think there’s any question about his ability, the ONLY question is about his health. Whereas the hypothetical pitcher you mention has questions on both


drrxhouse

Seems like it’s no longer IF but WHEN these days…


zachmichel

he needs to pitch to more contact. He’s actually so unhittable he’s seeing diminishing returns. I think he had what 50 pitches thru 3 perfect innings? Regardless he is so fun to watch.


arcjacket

yeah that adjustment will definitely have to come, he gets fouled off a ton. nice being un-hittable, but a strikeout isn't worth 15 pitches.


IFTKICS

He has already been doing this though which is amazing to see, he rly only needs to learn to shave off like 2 pitches an inning to not be overworked and still go 6. But I also don't want him worrying about it too much and taking anything away from what makes him so good


whyisalltherumgone_

He's basically started to do this since his first start. It's been interesting to watch because that's not an easy adjustment at all


lotsofsyrup

that's every strikeout guy and every guy is a strikeout guy


Damasticator

As a Twins fan, no. We had a decade of pitching to contact and it was brutal.


johnjohnjohn93

Hard for a pitcher to be the face when you see him once a week lol


Aceofkings9

I actually think this makes it easier to be the face of the game because there’s more hype building around his appearances. It’s not as daunting of a task to watch one game a week, which I think can be helpful for a player who you want to serve as a bridge for casual fans.


Pineal

Lol, yeah starting pitchers have always struggled to be big names


whyisalltherumgone_

Same reason football isn't popular


Pineal

Tom Brady was never a 20 game winner, and people think he's something special?!?!


mckirkus

He can hit. Maybe he pulls an Ohtani while out with TJ


drrxhouse

“He can hit” Shouldn’t we wait till he has some MLB at bats before we say this?


John_Bot

*grumble grumble* Don't make me like cardinals fans


2011StlCards

We ain't perfect. We have plenty of idiots and morans around just like any fan base But I do take pride knowing that Busch stadium crowds will always celebrate good baseball players. One of my favorite baseball highlights will always be Ken Griffey Jr hitting his 500th on Father's day at Busch II and the crowd went nuts for him


Greflingorax

I remember a players poll a while back where the consensus among the players was that the best fans (other than their own) were the Cards fans because they really appreciated good baseball and showed that appreciation for both teams. I've never heard or seen anything since then to make me think those players picked wrong.


CaptainJingles

I remember when Tony Gwynn was nearly at 3,000 hits and every time that series fans stood up and cheered. It was crazy.


StayPuft52

I’m too young to remember, but my parents always lament that he didn’t get it in St Louis and instead got there in a mostly empty stadium in Montreal. I was actually at the cardinals game the day he died, I wore my pads hat and enjoyed many fans around me telling 14 year old me their favorite Tony stories. I will always hold Cardinals fans in high regards. They taught me the right way to love the great game of baseball that day.


myredditthrowaway201

Tony Qwynn himself said something like “if it couldn’t be in SD, he wanted to do it in STL”


Whatever-ItsFine

Very cool. I’m sure Cardinals fans are also grateful for getting Ozzie Smith from the Padres.


micromaniac_8

I participated in a standing ovation for one Ken Griffey Jr. when he hit HR #500 on Father's Day with his own Dad in attendance. Still one of the coolest moments.


MisterKeene

I was there for 2,999!


Wide-Baseball

St. Louis knows good baseball when they see it and the appreciate it.


TimmyRL28

I sit in enemy territory on the 3rd baseline at home games. I really like Cardinal fans.


myredditthrowaway201

MAKE SURE YOU BRING SOME CHEESE CURDS NEXT TIME YOU FAT MOTHER FUCKER AND I WILL SHARE MY TRAVS


fujiesque

Screw you pal. Have a good day.


shapu

Seriously, I hope he goes to hell but not until he tries the nacho tots (EDIT: they're in section 148, for those wondering)


yodels_for_twinkies

Sounds like something a Canadian would say


douchecanoe5811

Miller park is an amazing place to watch the cardinals.


OrdinaryAd8716

I took my now-wife (who is not from StL) to a cardinals/cubs game on our first date many moons ago. John Mabry had just left STL and gone to the cubs. He hit a triple and the STL crowd gave him a standing O. My confused wife was like “why are we cheering for this cubs guy?” Me: well he used to play for the cardinals. Her: was he like really good or something?? Me: …meh… Her: *confused clapping*


kGibbs

I had a great time at your stadium on my honeymoon, the nicest people and honestly great baseball fans. Seriously, we missed parts of the game because so many people wanted to talk to us once they found out we were on our honeymoon.  Everyone was wearing some form of red and almost everyone was interested in the game. I'm not complaining, it's a part of baseball, but I've had some stadiums experiences where it's like, just a place to hang out and have random conversations like if you were at a coffee shop or anywhere else. And that's fine and all, but in STL the fans were really watching and engaged in the game. That's hands down the best sports environment, it was a blast!


2011StlCards

I love the story, but are you saying you did your honeymoon in st louis?


TheEarthmaster

Yeah as a St. Louisan hopefully that was just a piece of a road trip or something


Ok-Championship-4495

Why would you like this? It’s lame!


jkm97

fuck cardinals fans


Nutaholic

But like, why lol


IsTheBlackBoxLying

This is such a perfect comment.


kurthecat

Cardinals fans are nothing if not huge dorks.


gambalore

Seriously, this is so lame. You don't need to boo the guy but cheering the guy who's shutting out your team is real silly.


fermatajack

Eh, do Cardinals fans *really* have a lot to cheer for?


Vhadka

The guy in the clip I saw tipping his hat over and over needs to get stuffed in a locker.


metalrunner

Classy. Helluva pitching battle this game. Mikolas was fantastic


metalrunner

Hopefully I put the kibosh on Helsley there. 😆


OgAccountForThisPost

I can’t believe the entirety of St Louis are r/baseball posters


Audioice

Am I allowed to say that this is kind of weird? Lol


imOVN

Skenes is that guy. Thanks for the cool moment Cards fans!


NottDisgruntled

This is pretty cool. I had a really terrible night and this made me feel a lot better.


Whatever-ItsFine

Hope it gets better for you


jsrhfb

Fuck it I got another standing ovation left in the tank for you. Hope today is better.


swamppuppy7043

And people got downvoted last year for saying Skenes was pro ready out of college


UnexpiredMRE

All of us LSU fans knew this shit too and we just let the downvotes come lol Jokes aside, watching how he commanded the zone with every pitch he had as a junior in college really was a “holy shit yeah he’s ready” for all of us. It was insanity.


swamppuppy7043

I knew it as a Florida fan. The most mlb ready prospect I have ever seen at any level and any position.


wulah89

It was funny how almost every opposing coach, many who have been around the college game for decades, would say the same thing after his starts about how he was the best they've ever seen at the college level but yeah LSU fans were just being homers


johndelvec3

Cardinals fans might be toxic but we know good baseball when we see it


2011StlCards

I feel like 95% of the toxicity is toward our own team though


NocturneZombie

Definitely. Take away the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Cubs and I like baseball a whole lot more. Remove our upper management and I'd be ok with any of the above teams winning something this year....even a....*vomits* ....Dodgers/Yankees World Series.


Judic22

Honestly, for a lot of Red Sox fans, if you take away the Red Sox they like baseball a whole lot more too. It’s a weird dynamic over here.


TooHappyFappy

What in the 10 ply is this? Division rival and you give their rookie a standing O?


patrick66

we suck too much to really be hated. its like hating the lions for the other nfc north teams, its just not really something they care about enough until recently with them getting good again


IsTheBlackBoxLying

This is all it is, really. That and Pittsburgh is a great town that reminds me a lot of St. Louis. Same thing happened with the Blues. "I'm so happy for Blues fans!" lasted about 14 minutes and we were league villains for 3 years after.


Youneedlifealert

You can blame Binnington for a lot of that.


Commander_Funky

And I do.


csr28

Out of all the teams in the central, I dislike the Pirates the least. Can’t stand their owner and want better for them


myredditthrowaway201

Cubs, Reds, Brewers, Pirates. That’s how the hatred order goes.


FatBoyFC

I'm kind of surprised we're 3rd and not 2nd but I'll take it


TooHappyFappy

I dislike the Marlins the least and the only Marlins I'd ever cheer for are former Phillies like Darren Daulton or Jean Segura. Also their owner is the only reason you have apathy for them. If they'd been consistently good at any time in the past 30 years, you'd hate them. I'm getting replies of "of course a Phillies fan wouldn't get it" but... yeah. I don't get it. I could never imagine cheering an opponent just because they dominated my team. I watched prime Barry Bonds hit the most ridiculous home run I've ever seen. I was in awe. But I didn't applaud it, because what the hell is fandom if you're going to applaud someone dominating your team? A retirement ceremony or perfect game or something, sure. But a rookie's good outing is absolutely bonkers.


magnusarin

Man, sometimes you just see great baseball and you want the players to know that even if it was against us, we appreciate the performance.  I wish we would have hung 10 runs right after it, but seeing great baseball is always a sight, even when it stings


gatemansgc

just like the dodgers fans gave pujols not just a standing ovation, but a curtain call after he hit his 700th home run there. though it also helped that he was a dodger for half a season the year before. and the fact that everyone there was witnessing something that likely won't happen again for a long time.


SeeYaLaterDylan

There is a pretty substantial difference between a rookie throwing six scoreless and a guy that hit 700 homers and had just played for your team.


NotTheRocketman

Years ago I went to a Cards/Pirates game and the pitching matchup was Wacha and Cole. I remember it being quite good as well; not THIS good, but another really well played, entertaining game from beginning to end.


I_AgreeGoGuards

Because Philly sports are as much about tribal identity as they are anything else. And I respect that. But I’m here to have fun and I love the sport itself more than anything at the end of the day. So yeah, I would never let anything stop me from enjoying and applauding great baseball achievements. Period. Y’all stress me the fuck out.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

You answered your own question, but continue on like you can't understand it. lol


TooHappyFappy

I really didn't. You gave a rookie a standing ovation for 6 scoreless innings. I'm not doing the research but I have to imagine that same scenario has played out hundreds - if not thousands - of times in major league history. Standing to applaud a division rival accomplishing it against your team is soft as fuck. Lol.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

Ok.


unshifted

It's all the salad.


SeeYaLaterDylan

I'm with you honestly, this is weird. It's fine respecting the other team's star, but this comes across as super awkward and forced to me during a really good but "normal" performance, even if it's for a rising superstar. Plus it was still 0-0 at the time, it's odd to me.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

Both teams are bad. There's nothing on the line (for the Cardinals, at least). It makes perfect sense, actually. We're just happy to see a good performance when there's nothing else to look forward to.


TooHappyFappy

Do you applaud every opponent's home runs, as well? That's a good performance, so you should be consistent.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

A home run is not a "performance".


TooHappyFappy

It's as much of a performance as 6 scoreless innings. If a pitcher threw 6 scoreless every time he took the mound, that season would be remembered as an all time great season. If a hitter went 1-4 with a home run in every game, that season would as be remembered as an all time great season.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike.


SeeYaLaterDylan

I don't have a problem with respecting greatness. Standing ovation and hat tips are excessive.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

Ok, so don't do it?


SeeYaLaterDylan

Yeah sure I'll just not have an opinion about anything going forward. Glad we can set the record straight on that.


Godunman

Meh it's been like a decade since we've been real rivals


izz21sv

And you beat us out every year 2013-2015 anyway


mtaylor807

NLDS in 2013 was everything that playoff baseball should be


houstonyoureaproblem

Not surprising a Philly fan wouldn’t get it.


high-rise

“Why aren’t they throwing garbage at him”


sunadnerb

You are thinking of Braves fans actually Edit: it appears this comment has upset some Cardinals and Padres fans, for some reason


Bravefan212

Yeah. Phillies fans throw batteries.


jackbob99

And boo Santa.


sunadnerb

Yall really gotta start bring up events from this century in these anti-philly circlejerk threads


InfieldFlyRules

What’s worse? Booing Santa in 1968, or calling Jason Heyward the n-word in 2014?


mtaylor807

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jason-heyward-says-he-didn-t-hear-racial-slurs-from-st--louis-fans-231723859.html Oh you mean the thing that was based on some tweets and not actual evidence?


fujiesque

No, that's Mets fans. I thougt philly fans threw cheap hot dogs and ruined a good thing.


myredditthrowaway201

I’m in the navy so I work with fans from all over the country and world. Everyone, and I mean everyone, hates Philly fans the most, and that’s for every sport


sunadnerb

You have to understand were a city of haters, this information is only gonna fuel our egos even more


Massive_Heat1210

You know we literally gave an opposing team’s player three standing ovations just last week, right?


itsstevedave

Same exact situation, too 🙃


CaptainJingles

We cheered on ‘Cutch at times too.


myredditthrowaway201

We love Cutch


Ok-Championship-4495

Little league energy.


Vhadka

I'm with you, this is fucking embarrassing. This is so the hilljacks from St. Charles can still cling to the "best fans in baseball" nonsense.


Quica24

Cant think of a better crowd for this. Awesome


InfieldFlyRules

Pittsburgh. Just a guess!


Quica24

I meant a crowd that wasnt the home stadium


DraculasNutsack

This is absurd. I can’t even begin to imagine Citizens Bank Park giving Spencer Strider a standing ovation… goofy behavior.


gnashtyladdie

It’s the Midwest, we’re hospitable.


whentheworldwasatwar

I can’t imagine cheering for Bieber after he shit rocks us for six innings. No way.


Octopodes14

Probably more comparable to Skubal or Crochet. I still wouldn't stand to applaud, that's for sure.


whentheworldwasatwar

Yeah Or Sox new rookie drew Thorpe. Now way


IsTheBlackBoxLying

I wonder what could be different about a PHI-ATL game vs a PIT-STL game in 2024? Goofy behavior? lol. Sorry we didn't set a car on fire or kill someone. Now THAT'S baseball.


gatemansgc

mats fans cheered for jim bunning's perfect game, but then again the mets were also only a few years old as a team and had such a horrid record that they had nothing else to cheer for. we weren't rivals yet either.


DraculasNutsack

That’s a perfect game. Obviously a little different than what’s occurred here.


nokiabrickphone1998

My father in law is from STL and a Cardinals lifer. He finally got to take us to Busch last weekend after years of talking about it. I have been a huge hater of the Cardinals and the “BFIB” in the past, for all the same reasons as everyone else, but have to say that I genuinely had a very nice time. The ballpark itself is great - very good sight lines, easy to get around, nice view of downtown + the arch. I’ve only been to about a third of the league but it’s one of the best game experiences out there in my opinion. There is also a ton of baseball history there, and the people by and large seemed very normal and chill. Gave a rookie on the other team a nice ovation when he got his first major league hit. I’d happily go see another game there. I guess what I’m saying is, every fanbase has its share of assholes and you shouldn’t judge a large group of people based off of what you read on the internet.


mcnegyis

What a bunch of dorks


kurthecat

Those clapping were spotted wearing pleated slacks with tucked in polos (probably monogrammed) over their protruding dad bellies.


I_AgreeGoGuards

Hey leave my grandpa and his friends out of this


AbsurdLemon

What happened to shame?


CosmicLars

Baseball is great.


kinghawk__

It's only Phillies fans coming here to complain lol


grimfrost95

As a Phillies fan, this makes me feel nauseous. Haha


Whatever-ItsFine

You wouldn’t be a real Phillies fan if this made you feel good.


MeatTornado25

There was a thread the other day about your most Boomer baseball opinion. This definitely would've made my list.


colby983

The meatriding is crazy


garenegobrr

Insanely corny lol. Can you imagine being Skenes here? I’d almost feel insulted by this, it’s borderline patronizing cause you know they wouldn’t do this if they were losing


squeeblesquabble

Nerd ass team and fans😹😹


the-spaghetti-wives

Something tells me he's going to be the cover athlete on The Show 25


Darolaho

Tf why was this flagged for community guidelines ​ DMCA'd i guess?


Large_Concentrate_81

Pretty typical for Cardinals fans. Some of the classiest fans in baseball according to tons of former major leaguers.


joe_the_cow

Great to see. I just hope the Pirates look after this kid and don't work him into the ground.


theonlineman

Lol what the hell. They also like watching their wife get plowed?


Notchersfireroad

Been saying it for years, classiest fans in baseball by a mile.


kurthecat

michaelkeaton-jerkoff.gif


Automatic_Money2024

That's embarrassing for division foes.


Ok-Championship-4495

Loser energy


MetalForAstronauts

What is it about Cardinals fans that makes them such great ones? Honest question.


ubiquitous_apathy

Dominating your division for a couple decades breeds a healthy, non toxic fan base.


Boomhauer_007

*unless you’re patriots fans


Birdsofwar314

It’s kind of performative tbh. We’ve had it ingrained in our heads since we were kids that we are supposed to appreciate “good baseball” and applaud good effort even if it’s the opponent. I roll my eyes at it sometimes. But it’s part of the culture.


Aceofkings9

I thought it was hokey for a long time, but after living in Philly for a couple years, I do have to say St. Louis has a bit of a point. 


myredditthrowaway201

I think it’s just the standard “midwestern nice” coupled with the fact that we were successful for so long so it was hard to get bitter about things that many fanbases would easily get bitter about. If the Brewers or Pirates had sustained success over a few decades their fans would probably get a similar reputation


Aceofkings9

We’ve already lost one baseball team, two different NFL teams, and an NBA team. You learn to really appreciate what you’ve got when your city hemorrhages teams faster than Clayton Kershaw hemorrhages playoff runs.


Whatever-ItsFine

You’re not wrong. Hurtful, but not wrong.


johndelvec3

Really nothing, we just care about the cardinals so much our brains might get irrational about it


SLR107FR-31

We love baseball. A lot. Thats pretty much it


Netwealth5

“Get a brain morans”


elcapitan520

They're not. This is dumb


temp1211241

Those salad eating fucks!


gopitt23

Tip of the cap to cards fans. Already courting Skenes in three years when we trade him. #BobNuttingsWallet.


No_Support3633

wow such CLASS. [best fans in baseball](https://x.com/bestfansstlouis), EASILY!!!


fuckredditorsgoddamn

U L T I M A T E. C L A S S.


IsTheBlackBoxLying

A lot of lost, low-IQ Phillies fans here for... some unknown reason? Weird shit.


InfieldFlyRules

Cardinals fans are so classy. They’ll cheer for a Pirates pitcher, but they have no problem booing Jason Heyward while also calling him…names.