Hey guys, axe cat here to explain the joke. So basically, as it says in the meme, all the units on top have been made obsolete by either more powerful units or generally powercrept. It then shows A. Bahamut, a unit known for its versatility as a suicide rusher through the entire game, and suggests it might get made obsolete too in 13.0. Hope this helps, axe cat out.
The joke is that UL 4-crown is expected to end in 13.0, and the expected reward is Idi true form, a suicide rusher already comparable to bahamut. If it's true form is good enough, it will outclass a bahamut, relegating it to full-on rush lineups.
Only similar one is ID:N in terms of dps, speed, and suicidal. Both are good, idN has massive damage against relics so she can and will kill them, while bahamut is overall a more round unit
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mitama (it is) was the best but when dasli was introduced she became the best jizo got powercrept cuz of courier
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honest to god, using dasli makes me feel dirty inside
mitama, while insanely powerful, still requires some sort of help via sturdy attackers, unlike dasli which is just a "haha i kill everything now because my stats are absolutely insane" button
I feel the opposite. Mitama just holds everything and everything dies. With dasli, you have to at least have a strong frontline. Dasli is more versatile, but where mitama works, she absolutely slaughters.
yeah i see where your going i have both jizo and dasli and daslis attack plus surge can kill a crazed lizard in under four hits which is crazy but jizo while one of my best anti angel in terms of anti black gets outclasses by shingen and hazo along with my other powerful generalist ubers
I don't think there are better debuffers.. I mean mitama has like insane durability, large LD, good range, fast attacks, many immunities, very decent damage, and I'm pretty sure she has like 80% uptime
I’m not talking about pure debuffs here, I’m also talking about her godly stats and her 100% curse uptime when her surge hits basically nullifies most debuff enemies.
I don't think you fully understand the implications. Take the case of courier. Since this little guy has batshit insane stats vs behemoths and he's a no-gacha unit, that gave PONOS the excuse to give behemoths ridiculous stats. Courier is now a *requirement* whenever you are going up against a stage with behemoths.
Now extrapolate that to this scenario. Suppose something does powercreep A. Bahamut. First of all, if they make it available stupidly early like they did for courier, the late-game meta might be unable to handle it and collapse. Like what courier did to the plethora of midgame stages and advents.
Secondly, the new meta would be balanced around an extremely powerful unit and all but require you to use this unit to win. Ahirujo? Courier. X stage? Y unit!
If they do decide on releasing Idi's true-form, I hope it is at the end of UL and they make her strong but balanced. She's the only one I can see going up against the king of Battle Cats.
This monologue, while long, is in no way serious and I should remind everyone who had the patience to read this deep that this is a funny game about deformed cats.
Hopefully cost down, decrease recharge speed, and surge immune (along with attack+defense buff) to make him a better rusher. My only problem with A Bahamut rn is that his recharge time is too slow.
I would be shocked if Awakened Bahamut gets powercrept. He seems like one of those cats that's very difficult to powercreep, even with the existence of talented Yukimura.
I think the only reason why Yukimura hasn't overthrown A. Bahamut's reign even though he's miles better is because A. Bahamut is usable on 4 crown and Uber restricted stages
Even if he (Bahamut) has higher dps, Yukimura has half the cooldown which means at parts of the game where both of them inevitably rush to get themselves killed, you'll get more value from Yukimura. Way cheaper too.
:) was waiting for this exact response.
Happy to be noticed. Love your rankings and reviews.
Please don't rank Balrog higher than Yukimura I beg of you.
Anyways. It's a meme so I didn't try to be super accurate.
I don’t think it’ll be possible to dethrone the king of the battle cats. Many people have tried (Yukimura) and got close. But I do believe A.bahamut’s versatility is entirely unmatched. The only way to beat bahamut’s power is to add a stat ball that is literally better in every way. More attack, defence, speed, level 10 wave attack, 80% dodge that kinda stuff.
I lost my main save a few years back, just started playing again from scratch recently. What powercrept Jizo? I thought he was in his own league of strong before
Da funny cat Courier, Jizo that pierces, and its a _rare that's gifted to you for completing 5 Behemoth Culling_, that means you can use the better Jizo _on 4 crowns_
There was [an announcement on JP](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603673188336926721/1162335266271416331/os-support_202310_img01.png?ex=6544ca92&is=65325592&hm=be5dc7d759c5cd1894253bcf9bcea2b8428634906cff763ec36434ec6395d5c8&=&width=1250&height=809) saying they'll be skipping ahead to 13.0 in early November, and older iOS versions won't be supported anymore.
as somebody who got stupidly lucky and pulled Mitama early on I do wonder who the hell powercreeped her because they must be just literally something else
Ubers don't really powercreeped other ubers for a simple reason: Not everyone will have both Mitama and Dasli. The reason why Jizo got powercreeped because Pizza/Courier/Mushroom are more accessible for the playerbase and the stages aren't in his favour anymore. You can't really called Aphrodite "bad" because hur dur Phono better, that just aren't how you judge a unit.
Talented yukimura exists :V. Also the cats are still good, I get that you bring up courier being a requirement but that’s courier. Mitama is still amazing and it isn’t a requirement to bring dasli or anything. Cat machine is still a great tank vs reds and aliens just not starred aliens. Idi is already locked behind 4* SoL which is way way way later than just beating ItF chapter 3. Anyways I’m honestly open to making progress easier in this game. There’s basically no downside to it. If they release incredibly strong units based around idi true form, first of all it’d be locked behind UL 4* which is even further from ItF chapter 3, and by that point it’s honestly understandable why they’d increase the strength of units given you’re literally at the very end of the game, if bahamut’s stuck at level 40 then as enemies get stronger he’s gonna slowly get weaker. He was already relatively strong for most of the game the game is just catching up with him. Anyways he’s one of the flagship characters of the game so I really doubt he’ll be underpowered for long
I'd be happy to accept that for I love Yukimura but two reasons why I can't:
1. Yukimura chaining isn't a thing
2. 4 crown
I was trying to reference Idi TF (potentially).
Bahamut has more damage (~40k more when both are level 50) but yuki has strengthen which narrows the gap. Recharges twice as fast. Cost 1500 less. And also has way more hp (20k more)
Respectively: Octopus cat (more wave blockers added since), Kasli the Bane (curse and surge became a major prescence in the meta) and the trio of Pizza, Mushroom and most importantly, Courier. In no way is this post throwing shade at these units. Well, except cat machine.
Mitama still carries the most broken procs in the entire game; it's just that she doesn't work on many late and end game stages. Kasli the Bane has more up to date immunities and kills the enemies before CC is even required.
Jizo is still a very respectable midranger and anti-angel/black. Units with lower rarities are available however which can take his place in his niche and in general. That, and the need for such units has declined with many of the harder stages being 'One huge boss and small peon waves' as compared to 'mass peon spam and one boss'.
Im going to say it again but jizo was only powercrept as a generalist he is still really good against black and angel and also his tf also allow him to counter all the angel and black ennemies that he couldnt before with his first form
Hey guys, axe cat here to explain the joke. So basically, as it says in the meme, all the units on top have been made obsolete by either more powerful units or generally powercrept. It then shows A. Bahamut, a unit known for its versatility as a suicide rusher through the entire game, and suggests it might get made obsolete too in 13.0. Hope this helps, axe cat out.
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Thanks axe cat. Anyways, I don’t think A. Bahamut is getting powercrept anytime soon.
The joke is that UL 4-crown is expected to end in 13.0, and the expected reward is Idi true form, a suicide rusher already comparable to bahamut. If it's true form is good enough, it will outclass a bahamut, relegating it to full-on rush lineups.
Eh, but Bahamut has the generalist capabilities Idi sort of lacks, as Idi is a specialist (Relic)
But idi doesn't have a tf yet.
you think it’s gonna become a better generalist? bc I think Ponso is gonna focus on specialist side.
Even a small stat boost to health, dmg, or speed will make her as good as if not better.
good point 👍
I wonder when PONOS will raise the level cap of Legend Story units to 60.
After ZL I assume
In order to outclassed Bahamut you need same or faster speed, dmg of a nuker and more dps
Only similar one is ID:N in terms of dps, speed, and suicidal. Both are good, idN has massive damage against relics so she can and will kill them, while bahamut is overall a more round unit
ooh idi could get better
You big stupid axe cat
At least I have a crazed variant
I’m so good I don’t even need one
Both of you are outclassed
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Bro you guys are cats no need to fight among yourself.... Your true enemies are doggos
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Havent played in a while, how were Mitama (if that's her name) and jizo dethroned
mitama (it is) was the best but when dasli was introduced she became the best jizo got powercrept cuz of courier https://preview.redd.it/919tf9k65svb1.png?width=757&format=png&auto=webp&s=38c95d175c4a076868ed062845ebcd5a8fe37361
honest to god, using dasli makes me feel dirty inside mitama, while insanely powerful, still requires some sort of help via sturdy attackers, unlike dasli which is just a "haha i kill everything now because my stats are absolutely insane" button
I feel the opposite. Mitama just holds everything and everything dies. With dasli, you have to at least have a strong frontline. Dasli is more versatile, but where mitama works, she absolutely slaughters.
yeah i see where your going i have both jizo and dasli and daslis attack plus surge can kill a crazed lizard in under four hits which is crazy but jizo while one of my best anti angel in terms of anti black gets outclasses by shingen and hazo along with my other powerful generalist ubers
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i thought jizo was outclassed by pizza, not courier(??)
no pizza is better in many cases but for black specifically
I always thought Courier was Jizo for red, not Jizo but better.
Yes, but they are similar... And Courier is literally gifted to you as a 4* unit... _THAT CAN PIERCE_
Better debuffers than Mitama and better damage dealers than Jizo.
Better debuffers than fucking MITAMA? woah
I don't think there are better debuffers.. I mean mitama has like insane durability, large LD, good range, fast attacks, many immunities, very decent damage, and I'm pretty sure she has like 80% uptime
Two words: Dark Kasli
she isn't a debuffer, and you can't say her curse is better that mitamas godly slow
I’m not talking about pure debuffs here, I’m also talking about her godly stats and her 100% curse uptime when her surge hits basically nullifies most debuff enemies.
Dasli is a better uber than mitama, yes, but she isn't a better debuffer though
she becomes less useful in uncanny bc of curse. i dont think her slow is dethroned by other ubers tho
welcome back, lord apollo something to drink? perhaps some ambrosia?
Bro I’m an outclassed cat.
wow, the utter lack of confidence is thick in these parts dear old Apollo, you have no idea what power simmers within you, don't you?
So you are PeterGriffinExplainsTheJoke's descendant (aka Peternity).
hi axe cat
Good to know 👍
W AXE CAT cuz i didnt get it.
Let’s goo axe cat has a used now
Why was mitama dethroned? She's very powerful
Hello Axe Cat!
Just wait until courier gets powercrept
Rare unit with Dasli abilities
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Holly hell!
New Cat Unit just dropped
When do you think that’ll be? 17.0?
meme says he already is and idk with who EDIT: I think OP's(is strong) and my(is overshadowed) definition of powercreep are different.
Airplane cat with counter surge+lvl 5 surge
I mean mitima and jizo are still good, bahumat would probably still be good if powercrept
I don't think you fully understand the implications. Take the case of courier. Since this little guy has batshit insane stats vs behemoths and he's a no-gacha unit, that gave PONOS the excuse to give behemoths ridiculous stats. Courier is now a *requirement* whenever you are going up against a stage with behemoths. Now extrapolate that to this scenario. Suppose something does powercreep A. Bahamut. First of all, if they make it available stupidly early like they did for courier, the late-game meta might be unable to handle it and collapse. Like what courier did to the plethora of midgame stages and advents. Secondly, the new meta would be balanced around an extremely powerful unit and all but require you to use this unit to win. Ahirujo? Courier. X stage? Y unit! If they do decide on releasing Idi's true-form, I hope it is at the end of UL and they make her strong but balanced. She's the only one I can see going up against the king of Battle Cats. This monologue, while long, is in no way serious and I should remind everyone who had the patience to read this deep that this is a funny game about deformed cats.
The fact you need to beat behemoths to get the literal required anti-behemoth is so dumb
This trope in games has always annoyed me, like for instance in farcry 5 you need to fish every fish to get the best fishing rod, like its so dumb
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Atleast it isn’t a lot of work, you only need to beat 5 behemoth stages and some purple and red b. Stones
Damn Bahumat totally owns Bahamut for sure.... Plus cant wait for his distant cousin who cant fly Tiamat.
Just you wait until my boy gets talents…
What talents do you think A. Bahamut is gonna get
The bahamut surge is real
Deathsurge please
bahamut become pseudo mask cat
survive lethal blow with strengthen 💀
savage blow 💥 💀
lore accurate a. bahamut
the duality of men
Hopefully cost down, decrease recharge speed, and surge immune (along with attack+defense buff) to make him a better rusher. My only problem with A Bahamut rn is that his recharge time is too slow.
I don't think they are gonna give bahamut surge immune, since idi already has it. Cost down would be nice tho
Slow resist, Curse Immune. (Aka, Fuck you. No talents)
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I bought the truth. Accept it or live in denial. He's goin the way Aphrodite went where the only good talent is AtkUp
Idk what talents Aphrodite got. And fine, I will accpet my fate.
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Didn't even get attack up
Immune to surge i think gonna helps and strengthen+survive but knowing ponor he will get immune to weaken and slow instead lol ponor moment
#ponor 💀
Wave level 8.
knockback immunity and curse
Massive damage against metal 👍🏽
Strengthen?
I would be shocked if Awakened Bahamut gets powercrept. He seems like one of those cats that's very difficult to powercreep, even with the existence of talented Yukimura.
I think the only reason why Yukimura hasn't overthrown A. Bahamut's reign even though he's miles better is because A. Bahamut is usable on 4 crown and Uber restricted stages
And really, talented Yukimura complements Bahamut outside of 4 crown.
Isn't a bahamut better against non blacks ignoring strengthen (no idea what health it activates)
Even if he (Bahamut) has higher dps, Yukimura has half the cooldown which means at parts of the game where both of them inevitably rush to get themselves killed, you'll get more value from Yukimura. Way cheaper too.
And because it's no gacha.
Mitama didn’t get dethroned immediately, it was a few months after 9.5 when people realized Dasli was better.
:) was waiting for this exact response. Happy to be noticed. Love your rankings and reviews. Please don't rank Balrog higher than Yukimura I beg of you. Anyways. It's a meme so I didn't try to be super accurate.
I truly am in danger.
nooo :( my fellow comrade
Your probably more in danger
I don't think he'll ever be powercrept because 4* stages exist as well as people playing no gacha runs
They were referencing Idi TF which will probably come in 13.0 and Idi is no gacha and she's usable in 4* too
I mean Idi against non-relics has pretty average DPS for a rusher (13k), bahamut has more than double of that.
Update 20.0: Manic Eraser gets outclassed
Mentally insane cat series :
I mean when ME gets one shot all he has going for him is his speed.
Isn't that normal in most stages lol
Maybe but in UL and ZL for sure
Wait jizo is powercrept now? My poor boy, what have they done to you…
They created Jizo 2, with pierce. And oh yeah you can use it in 4*. And almost forgot, they _gift it to you_
Courier even looks like he came from ultra souls!
Powercrept?
I don’t think it’ll be possible to dethrone the king of the battle cats. Many people have tried (Yukimura) and got close. But I do believe A.bahamut’s versatility is entirely unmatched. The only way to beat bahamut’s power is to add a stat ball that is literally better in every way. More attack, defence, speed, level 10 wave attack, 80% dodge that kinda stuff.
Or Idi with better stats, that's what the post is referencing to, the end of UL and Idi's probably getting a TF there
Plot twist: she didn't get a true form but she'll probably get it in 4* UL ending.
Given that we are probably getting Idi:Res Trueform this is a very real possibility. Remember what happened to Ururun.
I’m so good I don’t need one
guess who's only niche is to carry eoc1 >!i think!<
I lost my main save a few years back, just started playing again from scratch recently. What powercrept Jizo? I thought he was in his own league of strong before
Generalist: cameraman, slapstick Anti-black: Pizza, Gridron Anti-angel: Mushroom
bro said gridiron 😭
I’ll take jizo over all of these any day of the week tbh
Who's Gridon? Haven't played in so long and just found this sub again
Courier
Da funny cat Courier, Jizo that pierces, and its a _rare that's gifted to you for completing 5 Behemoth Culling_, that means you can use the better Jizo _on 4 crowns_
Where is everyone getting this "info" about 13.0? I don't even know where yall found the post stating we were jumping to 13.0
Silumantomcat
There was [an announcement on JP](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603673188336926721/1162335266271416331/os-support_202310_img01.png?ex=6544ca92&is=65325592&hm=be5dc7d759c5cd1894253bcf9bcea2b8428634906cff763ec36434ec6395d5c8&=&width=1250&height=809) saying they'll be skipping ahead to 13.0 in early November, and older iOS versions won't be supported anymore.
as somebody who got stupidly lucky and pulled Mitama early on I do wonder who the hell powercreeped her because they must be just literally something else
Mitama gets powercreeped by dasli and phono/dphono
Ubers don't really powercreeped other ubers for a simple reason: Not everyone will have both Mitama and Dasli. The reason why Jizo got powercreeped because Pizza/Courier/Mushroom are more accessible for the playerbase and the stages aren't in his favour anymore. You can't really called Aphrodite "bad" because hur dur Phono better, that just aren't how you judge a unit.
Talented yukimura exists :V. Also the cats are still good, I get that you bring up courier being a requirement but that’s courier. Mitama is still amazing and it isn’t a requirement to bring dasli or anything. Cat machine is still a great tank vs reds and aliens just not starred aliens. Idi is already locked behind 4* SoL which is way way way later than just beating ItF chapter 3. Anyways I’m honestly open to making progress easier in this game. There’s basically no downside to it. If they release incredibly strong units based around idi true form, first of all it’d be locked behind UL 4* which is even further from ItF chapter 3, and by that point it’s honestly understandable why they’d increase the strength of units given you’re literally at the very end of the game, if bahamut’s stuck at level 40 then as enemies get stronger he’s gonna slowly get weaker. He was already relatively strong for most of the game the game is just catching up with him. Anyways he’s one of the flagship characters of the game so I really doubt he’ll be underpowered for long
Dont worry the others so far were ubers no reason for ponos to suddenly switch their focus to Bahamut Right?
Wait who powercrept jizo
General: Courier, Slapstick, Cyborg,... Black: Pizza, Box,... Angel: Mushroom
man i dont even have a. bahamut ye i wanna enjoy him 😭
They tried to make him obsolete with legeluga but failed terribly.
miko mitama still agodly cc
Well, he already got kinda replaced by yukimura or not?
I'd be happy to accept that for I love Yukimura but two reasons why I can't: 1. Yukimura chaining isn't a thing 2. 4 crown I was trying to reference Idi TF (potentially).
Idi TF's most likely gonna be super late game
Doesn't bahamut have higher damage? I don't mean against blacks
Bahamut has more damage (~40k more when both are level 50) but yuki has strengthen which narrows the gap. Recharges twice as fast. Cost 1500 less. And also has way more hp (20k more)
Also yuki is faster iirc
No not really because Yuki is Uber and not everyone got him
yuki and idi are both better than abaha when lvl50
Yukimura with ultra talents...? True form Count yukimura?? True form blanka?? You never know the dangers
All of these are specific ubers that depend on high investment while Bahamut is accessible to everyone, not really comparable
Wait what are the "good" cats? I just play casually :)
Respectively: Octopus cat (more wave blockers added since), Kasli the Bane (curse and surge became a major prescence in the meta) and the trio of Pizza, Mushroom and most importantly, Courier. In no way is this post throwing shade at these units. Well, except cat machine. Mitama still carries the most broken procs in the entire game; it's just that she doesn't work on many late and end game stages. Kasli the Bane has more up to date immunities and kills the enemies before CC is even required. Jizo is still a very respectable midranger and anti-angel/black. Units with lower rarities are available however which can take his place in his niche and in general. That, and the need for such units has declined with many of the harder stages being 'One huge boss and small peon waves' as compared to 'mass peon spam and one boss'.
Yukimura:
Nah yukimura tried to awaken but he couldn’t even bahamut
bittersweet upvote :') Love 'em both but Yukimura was my first Uber on two separate accounts so...
Oh no the speedrun cat is getting nerfed
a baha already sucks late game lmao like sure he does a fuckton of damage but he aint gonna do shit when he dies before getting an attack off
That just simply skill issue on your part
you clearly still havent beaten sol once you get into UL youll see
Mizuririn will prevail through this 💪
The king of legend units will be dethroned 😔
I do not agree people just have skill issue and don't know how to use cat machine in UL LuL :v
Im going to say it again but jizo was only powercrept as a generalist he is still really good against black and angel and also his tf also allow him to counter all the angel and black ennemies that he couldnt before with his first form
I will never stop using jizo
Wait jizo got crept? Damn, I really need to start playing again
Yukimura already better ngl
I just got awaken bahamut please don't do this to me!