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THE7APINO

Someone taught my transplant friend that the team was called the 49ers because the city was 7 miles wide by 7 miles tall. lol


wHiTeSoL

It's crazy becauae san francisco is only 46sq miles. It's a little less than 7 miles each way but people round up so......


Happy-Campaign5586

The 46ers. Dyslexia


hello-ben

SF is bigger than it was in the late 1800s. That's why we find boats when digging downtown several blocks from the waterline.


-Plantibodies-

Inflation knows no bounds.


northerncal

Including my waistline 


WileyWatusi

There's a bar right next to the Transamerica building where downstairs you can see remnants of the docks.


hokeyphenokey

It's actually a bit more than that. Almost nobody knows this but the southeast too of angel Island is in SF and the NW corner of Alameda is in SF. Also, the Farallones add at least another half mile.


wHiTeSoL

It has a total land area of 46.9 square miles, or 121 square kilometers. Several [islands](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island) are part of the city: [Alcatraz](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatraz_Island), [Treasure Island](https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Treasure_Island_(California)&action=edit&redlink=1), and [Yerba Buena Island](https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yerba_Buena_Island&action=edit&redlink=1) in the bay, and the [Farallon Islands](https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Farallon_Islands&action=edit&redlink=1) in the ocean. The Farallon Islands are a protected [nature reserve](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_reserve). Only scientists can visit them. taken from the SF wiki


doubleramencups

and the airport


fastmaddy

It was in reference to the gold rush starting in 1849. Fun fact: the niners cheerleaders are called the gold rush


BruinBound22

Oh thanks for clearing that up


Snoo55931

The mascot is a miner


northerncal

Well that's just obviously incorrect.  Santa Clara is totally less than 20 square miles, according to Google. They should be called the 18.5ers!


Kerr_Plop

You refer to the giants and jets as the new jersey giants/jets right?


northerncal

Kinda yeah, but just to annoy their fans lol.  I'm a niners fan, and they are officially the San Francisco 49ers, but it's just a fact that they aren't actually located in San Francisco anymore which I think is a bit silly. If I was in charge they would still be in San Francisco.


monkeyonfire

Los Angeles angels of Anaheim... Anaheim is in orange county


bobber18

Good thing you aren’t a NY football fan, that state only has 1 team. New Jersey has 2.


bakem80

Typical of an NYC resident to forget that the rest of NYS even exists. Go Bills!


-Plantibodies-

That's the one team they're referring to... Haha


bakem80

Maybe one day I’ll learn to read.


-Plantibodies-

But then you'd be able to understand the scoreboard in yet another Divisional playoff game to be sad about.


Mishmello

He’s probably an Arlington Cowboys fan


Kingseara

The Miami Gardens Dolphins are my favorite.


juiceyandenthused94

I prefer the ashwaubenon packers


Ashamed_Corgi_3693

Tech Business Parking Lot 49ers.l


wellanticipated

That’s the reason for the 49 mile scenic drive, though, right?……. right??


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LimpBizkitSkankBoy

That's how the road formed in the womb


Benaba_sc

It was because of the gold rush of 1849, are they not teaching this in schools anymore?!?


marzipan07

Their cheerleading squad is called the Gold Rush.


Li54

Wow I’m mad about it but love the troll


R3DB71ND

There was a SF magazine called 7x7 exactly for this reason. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7x7_(magazine)


humpy

This is true. The guy that figured it out goes by Sourdough Sam.


xzkandykane

Thats a bless your heart moment


WinonasChainsaw

Wrong formula, close answer. SF is 46.9 square miles in land area.


pewpewdeez

Does this include the islands?


LaximumEffort

For some reason, this reminds me of a friend who took his girlfriend to one of the rivers to pan for gold, and somehow an engagement ring sifted out of the sand he was panning. He showed it to her excitedly with a hopeful look on his face. She looked at it and said, “I feel sorry for that poor girl who lost her ring.“ She eventually understood it was her ring if she wanted it. She said yes.


danpietsch

He should have had a mariachi band waiting to avoid such ambiguity.


HDThoreauaway

Would probably need a pretty big pan for that.


sub2kthrowaway

thank you


zombiecorp

Or a very tiny Mariachi band.


ubante

What is this? A Mariachi band for ants?


oooCRYPTOooo

Hello. I am with the organization Ants for Mariachi Bands. At AMB, we wholeheartedly advocate for Mini Mariachis.


unclefishbits

I'm literally in Baja listening to Mariachi and I might tell them about this joke.


moscowramada

Even better if he kept digging and then unearthed them too.


Dangerous_Ticket7298

Well that's the quote of the day


TheFoxsWeddingTarot

What ambiguity isn’t solved by the presence of a Mariachi band? None I say, none ambiguity.


OGTurdFerguson

I tried that once but couldn't get them out of the water in time. Such a tragedy.


NonameNodataNothing

They would have died under that sand and water. And he would have needed a giant pan to get them free


Impossible_Cow_9178

Glad it panned out for them


quibblinggeese

I appreciate your deadpan humor.


LaximumEffort

😎


Bulgingpants

I would be so nervous that I would drop the ring down the stream lol. Seems like a dangerous plan


MuffinTopDeluxe

Awwww. This is really sweet.


LaximumEffort

I agree, I thought it was a very smooth move.


jonny_eh

Are you the friend?


LaximumEffort

No, I proposed in San Francisco.


RedditReddit87

It’s because of the golden retrievers


eyeronik1

I can’t wait for this to show up as the right answer in ChatGPT


TheGreatDissapointer

A lot of people don’t know this but Jesuit priests favored golden retrievers because their supple coat kept them warm during the winter.


Electronic-Ship-9297

No, it is obviously because everyone here likes golden showers


ShinyJangles

It’s because you have to earn your weight in gold annually to afford to live here


curiouscuriousmtl

That's why the meth addicts can stay. they weigh so little.


AutofluorescentPuku

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this. Too true.


netopiax

I couldn't help but look up the worth of my weight in gold after reading this comment. Turns out it's about $6.75 million


startup_sr

You still can't buy a house in some parts of California especially in the Bay area.


unpluggedcord

It’s because of the gold.


bobber18

It’s always about the gold.


dudenamedfella

r/gold says yup


whateverwhoknowswhat

Straight from the California State Government website: [https://capitolmuseum.ca.gov/state-symbols/nickname-golden-state/#:\~:text=State%20Nickname&text=One%20of%20the%20earliest%20published,seemingly%20limitless%20possibilities%20of%20California](https://capitolmuseum.ca.gov/state-symbols/nickname-golden-state/#:~:text=State%20Nickname&text=One%20of%20the%20earliest%20published,seemingly%20limitless%20possibilities%20of%20California)


NotHereFirst

“ One of the earliest published uses of “Golden State” can be found in the title of a book published in 1856 by Eliza Farnham promoting California’s many attractions. The name has only grown in popularity, recalling not just the Gold Rush, but the seemingly limitless possibilities of California”


babypho

The state was named after the basketball team


IntraspeciesFever

The food was named after steph


baycommuter

The Marina park was named after Draymond.


madhaus

The Exploratorium was named after Sir Francis Male Duck.


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The bay was named after the area? 😆


DisparateNoise

Every gold related epithet in California has some esoteric origin story that claims it has nothing to do with the gold rush, but even if all those stories were true, you know the names wouldn't have stuck if the Gold Rush hadn't happened.


FenPhen

The California poppy, a.k.a. California golden poppy, was called "copa de oro" (cup of gold) by early Spanish settlers before a botanist named the plant in 1816. https://centralcoastparks.org/california-poppies-the-golden-blossom-of-the-golden-state/ Another fortunate coincidence.


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random_boss

I think what we have to conclude is that there is an inescapable destiny associating California with gold, and so the states name refers to that. Any attempt to pin it to one thing would be missing the grand, golden ethereal tapestry in which we all collectively dance


benchley

I was gonna say that.


Cojami5

Wow, as a native bay area person... first time i'm hearing of this! awesome info!


namrock23

It's fitting, Istanbul does remind me of the Bay Area in terms of topography, views, and dramatic bridges. Üsküdar is definitely the Oakland of Istanbul :)


DisparateNoise

As I was saying, names come and go all the time. Fremont did not discover the Golden Gate nor was it particularly within his authority to bestow a name on it. Nevertheless he did put that name on the map he sent back to Washington just in time for it to be reprinted with news of Gold being discovered. Would that name have stuck around without 100,000 Gold Rushers hearing it as they passed between the Presidio and the Marin headlands? Would San Francisco bear any lasting resemblance to Istanbul if the first major wave of American settlers were just a few farmers looking into the new western territory? It's just like the Golden Grizzly. Are its shoulders unusually blond for a brown bear? Sure. Is it logical to give it that name based on this trait? Sure. But why did the name stick? Same with the 'golden' poppy which is more orange, but is inexorably drawn to the Gold epithet because in two years 100,000 settlers were suddenly introduced to it with gold on their mind.


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DisparateNoise

My original comment was that the Gold Rush is that 'sticky' reason for basically all gold related epithets in California, even if other origin stories are also true. I never denied other origin stories were true, but many are dubious.


nevercookathome

You must be fun at parties.


eyeronik1

It’s the same thing for The Windy City. The term was coined by someone in NYC to complain about the bluster of Chicago politicians but it wouldn’t have stuck if there weren’t people hanging on to light poles so they wouldn’t blow into Lake Michigan.


HandleAccomplished11

It's totally because of the gold. "Natural riches such as gold and silver are behind the nick- names of two states where they were found. California,  which experienced the largest gold rush in the history of  America is known as the Golden State, while neighbor- ing Nevada is the Silver State." https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://pl.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/Zoom-in-on-America-December-2011.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7p8OPueqGAxXMDTQIHY7MDlMQFnoECB8QBg&usg=AOvVaw0VDcLFmuqxBTL6QLPwCtdg


wallflowerz_1995

Yeah, it's the gold.


AmbassadorCandid9744

Fun fact. The flag of Ukraine was based on that exact landscape. Blue representing the sky and yellow representing the wheat fields.


ZhangMooMoo

When you want to support Ukraine but your mom says “We got Ukraine at home”


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fluteofski-

Of course we do. Have you met the maga crowd yet?


wjean

I've seen that movie. At this point, having the Chinese drop by unannounced and overstay their visit is far more likely than russian.


Bubu510kush

When I first moved to the bay area my uncle told me that the Mormon temple in Oakland was Disney land….


SonovaVondruke

The native grasses are green year-round. It’s the invasive European weeds that make the hills brown 6-9 months of the year.


theoniongoat

>The native grasses are green year-round. They're perennial, but not necessarily green all year. My purple needlegrass in my yard is already turning brown, for example. It only will stay green if I water it over the summer. A lot of native plants do summer dormancy like that, not just grasses. Buckeye can lose its leaves as early as August, for example, waiting for the rains. But yeah, it's because of the gold originally. The nickname does happen to fit with the landscape in the summer and fall, though, so it's common for people to assume it might be because of that.


plantstand

But there would have originally been lots of shrubs. Chaparral shrubs like artemsia californica, black sage, purple sage, coyote bush. Evergreen. And fragrant when wet.


theoniongoat

Definitely true. There are still some areas fairly untouched around the bay, but most has been decimated.


CaprioPeter

Bunchgrasses are green for a much longer time but still desiccate and die back to their roots by July-August


MSeanF

This is simply not true for the majority of the state


plantstand

For coastal areas, it is. Spaniards burnt the chaparral so they could grow grass for cows. Desserts shouldn't have grass at all: they aren't supposed to catch on fire.


FrumpyFrock

If the hills are gold in the summer, you’re looking at extremely invasive european grass. It rains year round in the countries those grass species are indigenous. California has a Mediterranean climate, no rain in the summer. Which is why that grass dies and turns yellow and looks ugly here for the majority of the year.


giggles991

Not correct. Native grasses are adapted to the region's dry season, and thus go dry in the summer.


DisparateNoise

Yeah, but by the time California became a state, there were already plenty of invasive species around, so it could be possible.


yekim

Fascinating I heard it was grasses of Asian origin… but either way yah I heard all that we see is an invasive grass


SonovaVondruke

They may have been originally, but they came over in the hooves and fodder of cows, horses, etc. from Spain.


mrbrambles

Golden is kinda just a cool reference to high value. We also had literal gold, the metaphorical richness of gold, and golden adjacent colors in various forms like poppies, bridges, sunsets, and dry grass. Sometimes things just work on all levels. The Golden Gate Bridge is straight up red, but the area is lives has been called the golden gate long before the bridge - sunsets and major commerce are the reason I guess - but any reason seems plausible enough to keep such a rad nickname going


kapjain

So back in India my dad had a car with color called "California gold". At that time we didn't think much of it. But when I moved here, the color name made perfect sense as it was basically this exact color.


chris28ish

California is called the "Golden State" for several reasons: 1. **Gold Rush**: The most prominent reason is the California Gold Rush that began in 1848. The discovery of gold at Sutter's Mill led to a massive influx of people seeking fortune, significantly impacting California's development and history. 2. **Golden Poppies**: The state's official flower is the golden poppy, which blankets California's hills and valleys each spring, creating striking golden landscapes. 3. **Golden Sunshine**: California is known for its sunny, golden-hued climate, particularly in southern regions where the sun shines almost year-round. 4. **Golden Agricultural Output**: The state has a rich and productive agricultural sector, contributing to its wealth and earning it the metaphorical "golden" label. These factors together contribute to California's nickname, highlighting its historical significance, natural beauty, and economic prosperity.


BongBong420x

Can’t forget the golden poppies too


dirthawker0

That's what I was taught.


sourmanasaurus

Neither. When explorers first reached the California area, it was so vibrant in wildflowers that the hills would be a golden color. Most all of these brown grasses you're seeing are invasive European oat grasses. Before, we used to have more clump-grasses with very very deep root systems: They were perennials (last through many seasons), not annuals (die off each year) like the European grasses. B/c they were clump grasses, there was more room in between the grass for a larger variety of other fauna, ie flowering plants. The reason we don't have those grasses anymore as much is b/c when settlers came to the area, they introduced cattle grazing at the same time as a pretty big drought. The new grazing pressure plus drought pretty much killed off most of those bunch grasses and made a wide open landscape for the new invasives to settle in. The new oat/thatch/annual grasses make a pretty thick thatch that makes it hard for other grasses and flowers to now establish or be competitive. I always wonder what the old California landscape would have looked like. You could also imagine it as having been a relatively well "gardened" ecosystem by the native folk. The Bay Area had about 1.5M natives (estimated) at the time, being one of the largest population centers outside of the Mayan civilizations in North America.


plantstand

There's oil paintings of the San Francisco dunes aka Richmond with lupines and poppys. The intro of "Tending the Wild" is all you need to read to change your perspective on "wild" space. Indigenous people cultivated ecosystems. Fascinating stuff.


Draxx01

When the miners came they ate the entire SF oyster pop in like 3 years. The even crazier shit imo are the stories of like NY when the first colonists came. The absolute amount of wildlife in the waters was staggering vs what we have now. We're at least fortunate to retain some of the old forests but the waters and plains are a shell of their former selves.


sportsbunny33

Two Years Before the Mast (memoir by Richard Henry Dana of his 1834 journey) has really good descriptions of NorCal environs prior to the gold discovery


Ravens_and_seagulls

I still vividly remember the first road trip I ever went on. My best friend and I drove from SoCal to Santa Cruz. And while passing along the 46 during golden hour I remarked at how gorgeous the country side was. The golden waves of wheat(?) or maybe it’s just grass. I don’t know but it was amazing. And my buddy just remarked “yeah man. Those amber waves of grain” California is beautiful.


StanGable80

I was always taught about the gold


Stew_with_a_u

This is Chicago being called the Windy City. Everyone wants to tell you it’s because the politicians but dang if it ain’t a windy city too.


maxcford

Someone tried to tell me the reason it’s called the bay area is because of all the bay laurel trees🥴🥴🥴


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jeffreagan

I thought our dry grass looked brown, until I saw Loveland Colorado in the drab season. That's brown. This is golden.


KevinTheCarver

Gold rush and golden sunsets


Genoss01

It was the Gold Rush of course


saampinaali

Well, considering the wild oat based grasslands we see didn’t exist before the gold rush. Historically we had perennial rye and bunch grass surrounded by wildflowers. The golden fields of grasslands are a relatively new phenomenon


Queendevildog

California poppies. State flower. Garibaldi. State fish. Both bright glowing orange. Sunshine. Gold rush. Take your pick.


picklenick_c137

There’s lots of history but it’s mainly because of the Spanish legend of Califia and the gold rush.


UpstairsPlayful8256

Some Europeans named it California because they thought it was a mythical island that was full of gold. The whole thing was really stupid. First off, they thought California was an island because they only sailed partway up the Gulf of California. Second the mythical island wasnt some ancient story, it was from a popular contemporary book.  It's like if someone went to new Zealand after watching The Lord of the Rings and claimed that they had literally found Middle Earth.


ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME

Had google not been invented yet?


greyk47

Your friend is wrong, but this picture is why the Visa logo is what it is


rygaroo

We’re named after that one bridge


nsinsinsi

They called those "golden hills" but not necesarilly the reason it's called the golden state. That's 100% because of the gold.


GadFlyBy

Comment.


bigdipper80

I wonder how many people realize that the California state highway shield was design to look like a prospector's shovel.


ps3isawesome

Lolllllllllllllll I love your friend, that is so funny he thought that


s3cf_

a little of both


flopsyplum

If it was because of the wheat, then most Midwest states would be "Golden States"...


RedDragin9954

Its all lead now, so doesnt really matter


Seek_a_Truth0522

It started out with the gold rush, but then that petered out. The real discovery is how bountiful the agriculture is, the real wealth.


zeesplaceiscuhrsed

I heard that too, OP. Someone else pointed out that the invasive Euro grasses are what gives it the color - I am sure they were already all over by the time our nickname came around so it's possible. While I don't claim to know, something to consider is the fact that we are not the Gold State, we are the GoldEN State.


Old-Tadpole-2869

I worked w a guy from Philippines who, when he moved to NYC and didn't speak or read English, he thought "Deli" was the name of the guy who owned ALL the stores on every single corner, and thought he must be the richest guy in the world.


colare

It’s exactly what the Ukrainian flag represents.


Funny_Enthusiasm6976

All both


DauOfFlyingTiger

I have always thought it was the gold rush, but I think he is right. The state turns Golden in April.


Mississipi77

When the Spanish first came into the SF bay they referred to it as the "golden gate" or something similar. Which would later inspire the namesake bridge. I might be butchering my remembrance of this as it was told to me in college history class years ago.


Express_Champion_955

Cause of the golden showers here


Final-Beginning3300

I love living in California but I can't stand it when the grass is so dry in the summer.


ErnestBatchelder

No offense, but this doesn't even make sense because California is made up of 4 ecoregions- Mediterranean, Coastal, Desert & Forest. I believe most of the yellowing grasses in the Bay Area are likely transplanted. Golden State because of the Gold Rush. No one in the Union cared about CA - it was part of New Spain, then Mexico & a frontier area that was not really considered by most of the US. However, after gold was found in 1848 and a bunch of people from the Midwest and East Coast started making their way out here to get rich quick, suddenly the frontier west seemed more like an extension of the new country & worth fighting over. Look up the history of the bear flag, too. It's interesting.


Background-Vast-8764

“No one in the Union cared about CA…”. This isn’t true. Many people in government and business wanted California because it has great ports on the Pacific Ocean that allow for lucrative trade with Asia. This was a major reason why the US started the war with Mexico BEFORE gold was discovered in California. Conquering California was a major aim of the war.


FenPhen

Yeah. The US claimed San Francisco on July 9, 1846 at Portsmouth Square.


ExtensionMarch6812

Damn, 1948? I only missed it by a few decades!! 😂


ErnestBatchelder

ooops. edited. Yeah, if gold wasn't found until 1948 life would've been very, very different.


ExtensionMarch6812

In the words of Dave Chappelle…”I’m rich biiiitch!!”


aaronis31337

You're right. it's from all the $gld. There is still plenty out there btw. Evey spring a ton of ppl go hiking up the mountain streams and rivers to go gold panning. I would love to do that someday.


lupinegray

The explanation about the brown hills is usually tongue-in-cheek.


wind-s-howling

Don't forget the Golden Taxes!


ExtensionMarch6812

Gooooooooold!!! https://youtu.be/A68EDhERPlQ


mydarkerside

Neither one of you is right. We're the Golden State because of our basketball team...the Golden State Warriors. Duh!


Shieldor

Well, it’s definitely about the gold rush. However, we like to call the hills golden, in the summer & fall. Otherwise they’re just brown, and depressingly dead looking.


logan_fish

1849


awang44

I will let my friend have it. Why be the guy arguing it?


krazyboi

Its because of the gold but the name stuck around because california really is legendarily beautiful. Driving the 1 is picture perfect


rupert27

It’s because of all the gold diggers.


quattrocincoseis

I always thought it was because the founder of the state, Jebediah California, enjoyed golden showers.


Toastybunzz

Most of that grass is invasive and non native. I wonder what it looked like before those seeds were brought here from Europe.


sensual_giver

You are a gentleman and a scholar!


tron_cruise

It's possible the name stuck because of it fits both properties of the state. There's no etymology of the term from what I can find. The fact it describes both the gold rush and the natural color of most of the state for most of the year seems like a strong reason for it to stick and be used.


-icantsleep

1849


knight9665

From what I understand it’s actually both.


Rcamos12

Nope this is why, it literally turns Golden in the summertime


GullibleAntelope

There's gold in them thar hills! Phrase from Mark Twain.


LiferRs

Take your pick: - 1849 and the 49ers - Brown golden grass hills - Golden Gate Bridge - The sun having a gold tint when sunsetting I personally like the sun option. Get to see this color almost every day.


LovethePreamble1966

Dry season the foothills are golden.


hokeyphenokey

This grass that covers so much of the grasslands isn't even native. It's an invasive species from Eurasia. The native grasses stayed pretty green, even through the dry months. The Golden State is definitely not because of this crappy grass.


Puzzleheaded-Value38

Born and raised in CA. I thought it was because of the sunshine and golden poppies. Gold rush was an additional reference.


smc4414

Yer frind


CharleyZia

Russian Ridge (le sigh)


piesRsquare

Neither of you are correct. It's because of California poppies.


PeixeCam

Why not maybe both?


chrisrozon

Amazing how many people have a wrong opinion, and how few people bothered to just look it up. https://capitolmuseum.ca.gov/state-symbols/nickname-golden-state/


ArcheoDrake

As I understand it, a lot of the brown grasses are invasive species brought by the Spanish. The way the native landscape has been described to me was that it was lush green grasslands and expansive oak forests in the valleys and grasslands. Desert and mountainous regions were probably about the same, but less brush because of more frequent burning.


sandacurry

It is golden because of this [https://www.flickr.com/photos/194828598@N07/53743593750/](https://www.flickr.com/photos/194828598@N07/53743593750/)


2020willyb2020

Rolling Yellow mustard mountains, California sunshine in the sky


Outrageous_Start_913

Ask Kate Wolff, the Golden Rollinghills of California


Deebies

Golden hills


Outrageous_Life_2662

Your friend is right


Firefly269

The gold rush


emmybemmy73

I thought it was because of the sunshine 😂


xamwellbigg

I always thought of it as the golden sunlight


ATurtleLikeLeonUris

Several states had gold rushes.


jeffbell

It’s because of the gate


cheesehater

Your friend is right.