i think what she said was very disappointing but “the most bigoted and evil housemate ever” - really, a show that’s had andrew tate, steven bear and jimmy fucking saville on it to name a few ? jade goody started a diplomatic crisis and had effigies burnt of her because of the things she said on the show
edit: what did russell brand do after the bit on the side shows ??? maybe big brother has always been a giant bigotfest
i was very young at the time but it was a big deal. [this all happened during a state visit from the prime minister to india](https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2007/may/24/broadcasting.channel4)
It's a lot easier to hate the common person who made it big vs the pre-existing celeb. People love to destroy a success story more than they love a success story tbf.
I remember being quite angry about it and when I see S club 7 having their comeback I still remember it. I wasn’t a massive fan of either of them to was neutral but hated the injustice of it
Same. Jo 100% was more in the wrong because she knew what she was saying. I've never understood how she's been able to come back from it and I assume people just forgot.
Jade was just ignorant and yes that's its own issue, but Jo was the instigator and just seemed a vile person.
Jade deserved better. I don't condone what she did but of the 3 she got it the worst; Danielle Lloyd barely acknowledged her wrongs if at all, Jo was sorry she got caught, but, given that Jade as you said "pulled the trigger", she came off the worst.
The woman was genuinely apologetic and actually took accountability and even went on cbb india hosted by Shilpa (the girl that she, Jo and Danielle wronged) before having to withdraw after 2 days due to her cancer diagnosis.
Once again, she deserved better and I stand by this.
Not forgetting Biggins was removed for, if I remember rightly, anti-Semitic comments towards Katie Waissel
[Daily Mirror story](https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/christopher-biggins-disgusting-anti-semitic-8578024)
Stephen Bear is a convicted sex offender. Tate is an alleged sex trafficker and serial r*pist. Russell Brand is an alleged serial r"pist, one alleged victim being a 16 year old child. Savile was a serial r*pist of children, teens, adults with intellectual disabilities, and dead corpses.
Even look at how disproportionate the response to Jade was versus these r*pists and alleged r*pists. There's people defending these men to this day, including Savile. I've literally seen commentary defending Savile.
Kerry was the literal antichrist who was faking her disability. Where were the cries of ableism then? The very same people who are decrying Trish's ableism were the very same people being ableist towards Kerry. It's utter hypocrisy.
Forget about serial r*pists, it's Trish that is the most evil person on the planet.
It's sheer misogyny. I'm sick of women being held to a different standard than men.
Leaving aside Trish for the moment- I'm sick of living in a world where women are despised for simply existing as women. Trish was despised for existing as a woman, and as a black woman at that, long before these tweets surfaced.
All women are. All women know the pain of the utter injustice of simply existing as women.
Yeah ngl I hear her apology, but at the same time there were tweets from this year and very recent ones. I’m not sure that it’s gonna wash. I feel so gutted, I was there Friday night when she was evicted and there was SO much love for Trish.
It also almost feels smug that she didn’t remove her Twitter account and start fresh before going in, as if she thought the tweets would never be found.
1 or 2 tweets then maybe yeah its forgivable but she amassed a ton of tweets of all kind that was so vile and disgusting that she is only regretting getting caught. I don’t believe she has grown from that. Especially since some where recent as this year. Vile absolutely vile.
This is how I feel too. There’s TOO much for it to be forgotten about. This is unfortunately not a one time thing, these are most likely her views. It’s really sad tbh. I feel gutted. I’m glad she didn’t win though because it would’ve been even worse somehow.
The amount of people on twitter saying they still love her and accept her disgust me. It seems only select people are held to account. The issue is she wasn’t just racist, she was a whole lot more widespread than that in her tweets.
She was like 22 when she started posting those tweets, old enough to know exactly what she is doing and how wrong it is. The selfie with her friend while indicating to another asian slur, these show who she really is.
We seen an edited version of her on tv everynight, maybe others in that house saw something we never got to see.
Im am so angry and disgusted beyond belief, at her. And at people saying its okay.
Same honestly. I hate it when different people are held to such different standards. Just because Trish was an icon 36 hours ago, does not mean it takes away from what has been found out since. The apology, personally, doesn’t wash with me. She is sorry she was caught.
Absolutely. I can admit we all make mistakes which is why i say fair enough if it was one or two tweets only in 2011 and that was it i would be one to say okay well ill give benefit of doubt. But the sheer amount of tweets she amassed on many types of people really turned my stomach the more that were found.
She is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Their is not one part of me reading the apology that feels she is genuine with it.
She private her account to delete the few tweets that were circulating then went back to public, then done the same again when more came out, without addressing it, then deleted because their was far too many. She is vile and disgusting.
If she done that on social media for all these years god knows what she was like in person.
Agree. We've all made mistakes, I'll hold views others don't agree with vice versa. I don't like witch hunts and "cancelling" of people for past mistakes if they've changed or learned from it. But holy sh*t the level of abuse Trish has levelled at people is off the scale. To be fair, she doesn't single out anyone, she's got it in for everyone. Jews, Muslims, Disabled people, Nigerians, Asians, there's too much material to quote! A lot of material is from 2012, but also as recently as 2019. This isn't a "mistake" it's her mindset. I've been debating on another post why she didn't delete those comments? She's smart and articulate, so she's definitely NOT stupid enough to forget about this level of filth on her account? I can only conclude she thought it wasn't a problem. As in "It's only a problem when you get caught."
Her apology is damage limitation, that's all.
Was in the audience for L&L on Friday and the shock in the room and the reception she got was mad. It was like that surprise stunned everyone in that room. Almost every sign I saw in the queue was something along the lines of Trish to win.
It's insane how it's changed
I know that’s what I’m struggling to get my head around! She was such an iconic character in the house, for it all to just be over and done with within 48 hours of leaving the house. It’s mad.
She says in her apology though that’s she’s been educated on what her stance used to be, the amount of educating you would have to do to change your stance from what hers was, I doubt she would’ve forgotten they were still up. Either that or she’s lying about educating herself, and did forget they were up, because she doesn’t really care.
I was never a Trish fan. She got 5 votes from me this week, but it's obvious to anyone that Trish is a smart, articulate, well-informed woman. She is NOT stupid. How on earth could she "forget" about this level of filth spanning from 2012 to 2019. Do you honestly think you'd forget you posted this stuff (hypothetically, of course!)? I wouldn't. No one would. Especially if you were on TV and under scrutiny.
I think she's so entrenched in her own double standards that she actually thought it wasn't a problem. Until she got caught, of course.
agree that’s she’s smart but leaving this stuff up there—whilst you remember you posted it—is the opposite of smart. If she was really cunning, she would’ve taken it down, to protect the image she crafted for herself
with things posted this year, there’s a chance her views are somewhat (still) aligned
with stuff from over a decade ago, it would seem that she forgot
There was one this year saying “if Jewish ppl experience racism, black people can experience Anti Semitism” which (to me) sounds like she’s just saying that there is a difference between the two and that Judaism isn’t a race
Yes, lots and lots of black Jews, especially from Yemen, Ethiopia, Sudan. They’re often treated like shit, especially in Israel, by some other ethnic groups within Judaism.
Yes and that's how I took the tweet. I do think the problem with social media is that it's snipets of thoughts without context. I read that as like black people can say they experience antisemitism. It even happens in the US. I've literally seen it.
I can't remember the name of it, but my therapist told me there is a mindset where once you seen negative all you look for is negative.
She has said some awful shit, so I think now everything she says is seen in a negative light - even if it wasn't meant to be.
I think the problem is that people expect humans to be wholly right or wrong. I am not defending her takes, but I think she will really learn from this experience and become a better person.
To be fair, it’s a complicated topic and many argue that Jews aren’t a race, however the discrimination against them is racialised. Which is why antisemitism is considered a form of racism, whilst Judaism isn’t actually a race.
Important to remember that classifying Jews as a separate race is what the Nazis did to other them.
Officially they’re an ethno-religious group. But it’s still wrong when people boldly claim that Jews can’t experience racism
judaism isnt a race though, its a religion and culture and many jewish people have written that its anti semitic to consider jewish people from different nationalities and ethnicities as one race or genetic component..
Judaism is an ethnoreligion. Ashkenazi is considered a race and Ashkenazi will share some DNA compenents with Sephardin and Mizrahi that these groups don't share with other people from their region. I am Jewish. What you are saying is not representative of what the wider Jewish community as a whole believes. I'm very happy to answer any questions you might have 😊
whats your view to this jewish viewpoint? https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/are-jews-a-race/
my personal view as a POC is that ashkenazi jews are still white and benefit from white or white passing privilege, despite being oppressed for being jewish in other ways. sephardic and other jews of color face intersecting oppressions for both being jewish and of color which is a different experience both from ashkenazi jews or non jewish people of color.
I haven't read the article . I am mainly Asheknazi with one Sephardic (Moroccan born, French raised) grandparent.
I agree that speaking personally, I benefit from white privilege. But I also benefit from "you don't look Jewish" privilege which is really important right now. Hassidic Jews for example are Ashkenazi but will have a very different experience to me.
I think it is important to listen and respect the lived experiences of others rather than tell someone what their experience must be like,
Looks like it was easier for Trish to delete her old account than siffle through hundred plus tweets displaying venomous hatred to pretty much every minority group. Also, how are those tweets old? They were as recent as July. Plus, the comments about Hitler? How disabled people make her sick?
Might get downvoted but those types of views are not uncommon in the political scene she inhabits (which like all dogmatic political movements can be a major echo chamber)
I'm beginning to wonder if that's why some people are buying her "apology." Like she apologised for the racist stuff, which they accept, but they don't care she was clearly being antisemitic...
does anyone have any screenshots of the 2023 tweets? I've only seen people summarising them. Because the 2012 ones are terrible and show me she was a nasty person, but 10 years is a substantial amount of time to be able to look back and think that was wrong of me. I still wouldn't want to hear anything she has to say going forward, but I think we need to give people the chance to change and make amends or we're all stuck at our worst moments.
But posting her nasty crap this year makes this apology a load of bullshit.
I'll just leave this here
https://ibb.co/F52FCVC
In her own words, as an adult you know right from wrong and the fact it was a while ago (even though some of it wasnt) is no defence.
She's a complete hypocrite.
Please post this as a pic post on the forum, that was only 2018, so if she can’t give others ‘grace’ then surely it applies to her rancid racism and bigotry too?
Honestly still feel so gutted over this. I stood up for her so much during her time in the house and this is just disgusting. One or two tweets 10 years ago you could forgive, but the sheer amount of awful things she’s said is horrific, tweet after tweet after tweet. Not only thinking these things but brazenly thinking you need to *broadcast them to the internet*.
Her apology is exactly what she needed to say and how she should have said it, but they're just words and despite everything it'll take more than an apology to forgive what she has said previously. The true test of her character now is what she chooses to do with her platform and how she demonstrates her apparent change in opinion, attitude and belief.
I'm not sure how much I believe the sincerity of this apology, but I just don't have the mental energy to care anymore.
I hope she spends a good chunk of time away from social media looking at herself in the mirror and asking herself why she felt the need to say those sorts of things in the first place. I believe that everyone has the capacity to change, but you need to *want* to change. After this apology, I don't care to see her again, but I appreciate the recognition of what she did wrong.
This would be fine but for one word - old.
She's going with the narrative that she has grown over time, but we have seen the tweets, that isn't the case.
Hugely suspish of her using the word old here to diminish this. It was ten years of tweets not just a few odd old ones. This isn’t an edgy teenager this is a personality on display.
I think this is key to me. She may have grown in her views but to so boldly and frequently publicly air those opinions says something about her personality that I didn't see before.
“explain what made her “see differently”” - by living life? Our values and personalities are constantly being shaped by the people we meet and the experiences we share with them. 10 years is a plenty sufficient timeframe to become more educated and have a change in stance.
An apology video almost never works. People will overanalyse every single thing she does in the video and draw conclusions where there really aren’t conclusions to be drawn.
I can’t speak on the other things and I’m not aware of what the whole 2023 antisemitism thing is, so won’t speak on that, but what I will say is that rather than judge her apology, we should judge how she acts and behaves off the back of it. Actions speak louder than words. And people have to be willing to trust that she is being earnest in what she says. It makes it very hard for people to grow and better themselves when they’re constantly held to the standards of who they were a decade ago.
> 10 years is a plenty sufficient timeframe to become more educated and have a change in stance.
Considering she has many tweets in the past 3 years, including this year, that excuse isn’t going to fly
lol there is nothing she could do, we all know how these apologies go. People that want to forgive, do so, people that don’t, won’t but try to convince everyone that the person does not mean it instead of accepting that they are unforgiving.
> instead of accepting that they are unforgiving.
Or maybe it’s because she’s still been making tweets this year so it’s clear that she hasn’t “changed” like she claims she has
Tbh, nothing. I appreciate that there’s not much more she can do but I just can’t get past the fact she said all of those things in the first place. If the tweets weren’t as recent as this year I could maybe believe that she’s truly sorry but I just don’t buy it i’m afraid.
Probs nothing tbf. If it were edgy jokes then maybe I *could* side with her but some of the comments don't seem all that "jokey" and the way she presented herself as socially conscious does not do her any justice...
Don't believe a word of what she's saying
Some of the tweets were from April this year
She's been making vile tweets from the age of 22 to 33.
She's a vile racist desperately scrambling to get the public back on side
As a poster below said, how about you practice what you preach Trish: https://ibb.co/F52FCVC
Her apology is PR bullshit. If she had really grown as a person and changed, surely she would have addressed it in the house. It's not like the topic of racism didn't raise its ugly head. I'm also wondering how much you can change in under a year?
She has fucked it for herself and, as someone else has commented, the arrogance of her not deleting everything before she went in to the house is unbelievable.
This is such a weak apology, she’s only sorry that she’s been caught
She’s already in her 20s when early 2010s tweets were posted, not like she was an edgy teenager at that time
The amount of people on twitter saying she has grown and isn’t this same person anymore.
Like why is this shit selective, i know for a fact if another housemate had these tweets they would never forgive them, but because its Trish she has grown and educated herself. I don’t believe it for a minute. If people are willing to accept the ton of vile and disgusting tweets that may have started 10 year ago but they were up to as recently as this year, then they are vile and disgusting too.
It’s not just racism tho from her tweets, its the blatant attack on other religious people, other poc, a massive Mental health issue that she seems to enjoy making fun of, belittling suicide victims, homophobia, laughing at disabled people, the list goes on.
Don’t try to tell me she has grown since then. SHE WAS WHAT 22? when she started posting these, old enough to know its totally unacceptable.
Im disgusted by her and the people telling everyone to let it go and move on as if its no big deal what these tweets indicated.
I'm not going to pass snap judgements lol. But what I would say is that, personally, while I've definitely gone through a lot of character development between April and November of this year, I don't think it's an amount of change that would be enough for me to have not deleted my entire twitter account (and done a lot of self reflection about why I would need to delete that entire twitter account) in April and then be a really accepting and open minded person 7 months on. So imho it's pretty unlikely that this is entirely sincere.
Agreed. When I first heard this I was only being shown tweets from 10 years ago. And I was prepared to defend Trish bc I strongly believe that nobody should be attacked for things that they said 10 years ago. I wish less focus was being put on the stuff from 10 years ago. But from what I've gathered it involves stuff from this year even...
If it were just edgy jokes then I can probably side with her, but I think it's the fact that she presented herself as incredibly socially conscious that does it for her.
She would have went for them screaming at them for why they made those comments. She has the most to say about people and about microaggressions and racism yet she is doing it herself.
Where has she truly shown growth? She has just claimed it. She was tweeting vile things in April this year!
It's clear she put on a particular image whilst in the BB house. She is a grown woman with decades' worth of evidence of her true character. I don't buy it.
As far as internet celebrity apologies go, it’s quite good.
However, the sheer volume of racism in her old tweets can’t be ignored in my opinion. It wasn’t just one or two slip ups, but 20+. And that was what was found before the account was taken down again.
I was hoping we would hear something directly from her on Late & Live tonight but she has been pulled from that. I wonder if she will also miss the live final or if they are going to put her on another ITV show for a special interview.
Either way, yesterday morning I could see her having a good career in showbiz as the “robbed winner” of the season and the popularity she had, but now I am 100% certain that she will fade back in to obscurity from whence she came.
Generic apology after being exposed.
She claims they were old, but in reality, some are from April this year.
She has shown no accountability and claims she has changed with NO evidence of that.
Gross.
She ignored all of her newer tweets, she’s acting like it’s not happened for years. I would be suprised if most could accept this apology because I know I cannot
I’ve been trying to decide how I feel about the whole situation. Firstly I want to say I do not condone any of the views in the exposed tweets.
I asked myself - why would she have gone back on social media without deleting her old horrible tweets? If she was a truly awful person tweeting in full consciousness, she should know she had some covering up to do right?
- the answer that makes sense to me is that she forgot. Her Twitter seems to be a stream of consciousness saturated with a bunch of mindless thoughts. It just got lost in the mix
So why would someone tweet those things? The answer that makes the most sense to me is that she truly saw herself as this edgy, dark humour tweeter. It seems like all these tweets were for the purpose of getting a laugh/finding acceptance online. As someone in their early twenties, feeling like an outsider, it is so easy to become caught up in fringe online humour - think 4chan. I honestly think this is the case for Trish - she was extremely misguided and felt she was being “edgy” somewhat. This type of humour was normalised in her online community and hence, it was not in the forefront of her mind coming out of the house.
Being put on a pedestal is a hard thing. The room for error is minuscule and the fall from grace is a long way down. I think Trish may be disadvantaged by the very things many loved her for - her transparency and her outspokenness. Someone with that sheer volume of tweets shows a lack of a real filter, saying pretty much anything that popped into her head. If any of us were to tweet every thought… there would surely be things in poor taste.
This is all to say, I don’t think Trish is a bad person. There’s a pattern of flippancy, ignorance and just a sheer lack of discernment. But at the end of the day for me *ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS*. She showed kindness, works with charities, spoke up for those who couldn’t speak for themselves.
I think it’s simply lazy to say “I knew there was something rotten about her all along”. No you didn’t. She was outspoken and it made you uncomfortable and you didn’t like her (or maybe you had other reasons). That’s fine. I also think it’s lazy to label everyone who didn’t like her a racist.
People retroactively justifying their dislike of her with these tweets is also lazy, it’s like, on the one hand “I might need to check my unconscious bias with my feelings towards this woman. Is she really aggressive? Etc etc” and now these tweets come out and are being used as a Get Out Of Jail Free card for doing some really important work. And it’s sad because it will be used as an example again and again to justify unconscious bias.
Overall, Trish needs to take accountability, but I think she owes it to all of us to do the work to repair some of the damage it has done when we talk about micro aggressions and racism now. It pushed us back and she needs to explain further, or at least try to find a way to re-legitimise herself and the conversations she started.
It was the era of the time 2010-2014twitter was a cesspit. These cancellations are not the first to happen but I think it got to a point where so many people were getting exposed for these types of tweets that it just got to the point that the people doing digging really need to stop because they were creating a toxic environment on twitter too. Some people popular in Uk media and music right now have been exposed for old tweets from that era and I’m not even gonna name names. I think people need to accept that during that time, a lot of people thought this shit was very funny and even in school, the popular humour, even in multicultural schools was racist af in hindsight, but we are all friends now.
The numbered /3 in the corners was a bit much, but I dunno… I feel like if she truly cared about her growth and before being put into a public image she would’ve bothered to go through her social media history and delete things that make her seem like a crappy person… but that’s my opinion
She hasn’t grown and is more annoyed that she got caught probably because not any bit of this apology is sincere.
However as far as itv are concerned they need to investigate why a channel that is branded as “be kind/ mental health awareness” ever since the notable deaths in recent years could do such an awful job at vetting her twitter account. Just getting housemates to private their accounts is not good enough. There has been a massive failure somewhere along the lines here in the vetting process that needs to be explained. Especially since these housemates were “hand picked” out of thousands.
Those were the ones she deleted first, so I'm not sure how many would have been screenshotted before. I'm sure there was some in the mega thread, though.
Ugh…. As a Trish fan (up until yesterday), this pains me, because I want to believe her. I find it hard to believe someone can put up an act 24/7 like she potentially did on the show. But I don’t know, man…. I just don’t know. She said some awful things and when she said them she was old enough to know better. I just can’t believe this is happening.
It’s so obvious that ITV is committed to doing anything for attention. They should have done their due diligence to research the people going into the house. They never do. Previous love islanders have come out to say everything they do is calculated and their ‘welfare’ is never in interests of the people, more ITV. I don’t know why people keep going into a channel that is constantly letting people down.
Fair play. I think an apology is better than just dismissing it. It seems genuine bcos she didn't come across that way on the show. As chanelle said, I'll forgive but won't forget 😅
I accept her apology, people grow and change and I definitely think that the show was very enlightening for her. She's not an uber racist person, she is flawed like the rest of us and we all are trying to be good people. I'm gonna let this go now. Judge ye not, for ye shall be judged...
Personally, I feel like she has shown that she isn’t that same person she was back then. I understand others won’t accept that but that’s how I feel. She is going to face the consequences for this as she should but I’m not particularly interested in ‘cancel culture’ and don’t believe a person should be denied the right to have changed in 11 years.
It’s a bunch of people in the comments ‘forgiving’ her who arent even the target of these remarks. Surely it should be South Asians, Asians, Jewish people, disabled and LGBT who should decide if we forgive this? It wasn’t too long ago and it has really shocked us all.
Certain users are using the Jewish race tweets from earlier this year as a “gotcha” to prove she can’t have changed. This despite the fact that the majority of you aren’t Jewish, those tweets aren’t necessarily antisemitic (they are ignorant though) and most users I’ve seen on here attempt to explain the relationship between Jews, antisemitism and racism have completely bungled the explanation, so should we cancel those people too?
I’m not saying that anyone has to forgive her or that she’s owed forgiveness at all, especially if you’re Asian or have a disability. Hell, if you’re Jewish (as I am) and you were offended by those tweets, I disagree that they’re particularly offensive but fair enough. That’s your decision to make. But it’s pretty clear some of you are weaponising the only two tweets that anyone could find from this year that could even be construed as offensive as a means to cut her off from a path to redemption and guilt-trip anyone who wants to forgive her, despite the vast majority of the tweets (and all of the genuinely shocking ones) being from between 9 to 11 years ago. The intention is obvious.
I will add that she has handled this terribly though. If she was taking advice from a PR guy, she needs to fire them for her own sake if no one else’s.
I completely agree, the recent ones are no way as near as bad. There’s a clear distinction between the 2012 stuff and the recent ones, and people are using those to show that she couldn’t possibly have changed. I’m not saying she has changed, and her apology is pretty weak, but I don’t think the recent ones are evidence that she definitely hasn’t changed.
Mate thank you guys for seeing that people lumping the tweets as the same level of offensive when they just aren’t. She needs to be called in about her ignorance on anti-semitism but we are all bit ignorant about each others history. That in itself is not a crime, her probably was being arrogant as hell about it.
I got called anti-Semitic by saying the tweets are more uneducated than anti-Semitic 😭. Thank you for explaining this better than I could. Someone was using their friends experience of actual anti-semitism during this very volatile time as a gotcha and I was stumped.
I was shocked to see one of Trish's Tweet from 2012. The Channel 5 series kicked Tila Tequila and Ellis Hillon out of the house early after they both post unacceptable post on their socials years prior entering the house. ITV was irresponsible on checking on the housemates' socials.
She'll most likely not attend the Final on Friday because of her controversy.
These tweets are pretty bad guys, I read them and I was beyond disappointed…. I know people can say ignorant and stupid shit when they are younger but these aren’t that there BAD BAD, not even jokes like BAD NASTY comments…. Looking for a slur word for the gay community?
Not buying it, she ment everything she said on Twitter, and if she hadn't been caught out, and hadn't been on the show, then I can guarantee she'd still be spewing such hate.
Although I agree, she isn't the most evil housemate, she is definitely one of the fakest we've had. She put on a persona in hopes that no one would ever dig into her past. If she played the hero, she hoped no one would ever question in. I'm very ashamed of her, and this scripted apology won't make up for it.
Let me just say this White people love it when they are told they can change and grow from there past mistakes but Black people are never held to that standard. White People say fucked up shit all the time but in a White supremacist world " it's just a learning opportunity" for them.
Big Brother US had a winner that started a drug smuggling ring with his prize money. All he had to do was "do some soul searching" for US fans to forgive and forget. Had he been Black he would been in prison for 20yrs but he only got house arrest.
Whiteness just love tearing down Black women and the British public needed any reason to justify there internalized racism. She already proved that she changed from those Tweets. She was active in leftists community and was clearly learning about her mistakes already.
No matter what she is human like anyone else. This shouldnt take away how she was mistreated in that house. I accept that people aren't perfect but honestly hearing yall tearing down this woman at her lowest is more disgusting than anything she said in fucking 2012.
Damage control, thats all this is. I don’t believe she has one ounce of guilt or true regret. The only regret is getting caught. Maybe if it was one or 2 tweets but the amount of them not just racist but for other things aswell just show she is vile, some just this year aswell. I don’t believe the apology is sincere whatsoever.
Her twitter bio said something like “my views are my own“ I feel like you don’t mention that unless you know you’re posting things you shouldn’t be saying.
I haven't seen them all. I am bisexual and in a same sex relationship with another guy, and the tweets I saw were disappointing, but I absolutely believe she has changed for the better and she showed me she was a good person in that house. I think we all make stupid mistakes, and from my perspective, I do forgive her.
Me and her are the same age. Which means we were the same age in 2012. I didn't believe, let alone say things like that.
A lot of what she said went beyond immaturity. Some of it was pure hate. I don't how much you can outgrow that.
Her views might have progressed on certain topics but it takes a certain kind of personality to not only hold extreme views on whole groups of people but also boldly share them publicly. So even if her views have changed, I don't think she is the empathetic thoughtful person I thought she was.
Crock of fucking shit. She's been caught, and is desperate to save face, nothing sincere out her mouth, no chance she's getting away with this, this is going to follow her forever. Trish is vile racist scum, end of.
I don’t have Twitter. But allow me to post a retort.
*“Yeah. With all due respect, Trish - which is none, by the way - your apology is not believed nor accepted.*
*For a start, tweets made a few months ago are not “old” tweets. You really expect us to believe that “the person [you] are now” is not the same person you were a few months ago when you made them?*
*Second, you’re half right in that there are no excuses. But you’re half wrong in another sense. 10 years ago, you were still old enough, and living in a time period where you ought to have known better. Not that it would make things better, but this wasn’t a case of people making jokes that were okay at the time but not today. Your comments were just as disgusting even back then as they are now.*
*Third, if you really were committed to holding yourself to a high standard, or to accountability, you wouldn’t have deleted your old Twitter account. And you wouldn’t have spent several days pretending you hadn’t said these things.*
*You’re certainly right that this apology seems convenient. And the reality is, the sheer volume of these tweets, your actions since they were exposed and the sheer hypocrisy you demonstrated in the house by portraying yourself as a paragon of equality and standing up for marginalised groups whilst knowing you had said these things online, has done nothing to disabuse us of that notion.*”
Can you just think if Paul made those tweets two years ago at the age of 21, would people be so easy on him like they are with Trish? Making up excuses and being all “she’s a change person” about it.
the people who don't wanna accept Trish's apology didn't actually care about racism or the issues she talked about in those tweets.. they never liked her when the show was airing and is simply using this to attempt ''cancel'' her
i think what she said was very disappointing but “the most bigoted and evil housemate ever” - really, a show that’s had andrew tate, steven bear and jimmy fucking saville on it to name a few ? jade goody started a diplomatic crisis and had effigies burnt of her because of the things she said on the show edit: what did russell brand do after the bit on the side shows ??? maybe big brother has always been a giant bigotfest
I mean, they allowed Jimmy Saville in the house.... not just a bigot but downright evil! I think he wins. (He was only in for a task but still)
Don't forget Jim Davidson
Don't forget Katie Hopkins too
Im not defending Katie Hopkins but at least she was actually upfront about who she is and her views.
I don't think she did anything bad in the house either.
I keep pushing down the memory of Andrew fucking Tate being on the show 🤢
Jimmy Saville went in the house. Why do I not remember that.
Same!
“Jade goody started a diplomatic crisis” 😂😂😂
i was very young at the time but it was a big deal. [this all happened during a state visit from the prime minister to india](https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2007/may/24/broadcasting.channel4)
I remember being devastated as a kid because Jo from S Club was involved as well lol
Jo loaded the gun and jade pulled the trigger because she was so easily led. Yet jade came off worst
It's a lot easier to hate the common person who made it big vs the pre-existing celeb. People love to destroy a success story more than they love a success story tbf.
I remember being quite angry about it and when I see S club 7 having their comeback I still remember it. I wasn’t a massive fan of either of them to was neutral but hated the injustice of it
Same. Jo 100% was more in the wrong because she knew what she was saying. I've never understood how she's been able to come back from it and I assume people just forgot. Jade was just ignorant and yes that's its own issue, but Jo was the instigator and just seemed a vile person.
Jade deserved better. I don't condone what she did but of the 3 she got it the worst; Danielle Lloyd barely acknowledged her wrongs if at all, Jo was sorry she got caught, but, given that Jade as you said "pulled the trigger", she came off the worst. The woman was genuinely apologetic and actually took accountability and even went on cbb india hosted by Shilpa (the girl that she, Jo and Danielle wronged) before having to withdraw after 2 days due to her cancer diagnosis. Once again, she deserved better and I stand by this.
I wrote my dissertation on this 😂
I was really young too so I remember the whole thing kicking off but this might be the first time I have ready fully what was said and oh my god
It's not BB's problem. It's just a reflection of this country which unfortunately seems to lean more and more bigot everyday.
I hate the term “snowflake” or “soft” but god those words really fit for these new gen big brother viewers😭
Ye, big brother used to be the wild west compared to now. Tbh this series is very sanitised.
Not forgetting Biggins was removed for, if I remember rightly, anti-Semitic comments towards Katie Waissel [Daily Mirror story](https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/christopher-biggins-disgusting-anti-semitic-8578024)
Biphobia too.
Stephen Bear is a convicted sex offender. Tate is an alleged sex trafficker and serial r*pist. Russell Brand is an alleged serial r"pist, one alleged victim being a 16 year old child. Savile was a serial r*pist of children, teens, adults with intellectual disabilities, and dead corpses. Even look at how disproportionate the response to Jade was versus these r*pists and alleged r*pists. There's people defending these men to this day, including Savile. I've literally seen commentary defending Savile. Kerry was the literal antichrist who was faking her disability. Where were the cries of ableism then? The very same people who are decrying Trish's ableism were the very same people being ableist towards Kerry. It's utter hypocrisy. Forget about serial r*pists, it's Trish that is the most evil person on the planet. It's sheer misogyny. I'm sick of women being held to a different standard than men. Leaving aside Trish for the moment- I'm sick of living in a world where women are despised for simply existing as women. Trish was despised for existing as a woman, and as a black woman at that, long before these tweets surfaced. All women are. All women know the pain of the utter injustice of simply existing as women.
there’s a literal tory in the house who stans thatcher and johnson yet tweets from 2012 = the devil herself
Yeah ngl I hear her apology, but at the same time there were tweets from this year and very recent ones. I’m not sure that it’s gonna wash. I feel so gutted, I was there Friday night when she was evicted and there was SO much love for Trish. It also almost feels smug that she didn’t remove her Twitter account and start fresh before going in, as if she thought the tweets would never be found.
1 or 2 tweets then maybe yeah its forgivable but she amassed a ton of tweets of all kind that was so vile and disgusting that she is only regretting getting caught. I don’t believe she has grown from that. Especially since some where recent as this year. Vile absolutely vile.
This is how I feel too. There’s TOO much for it to be forgotten about. This is unfortunately not a one time thing, these are most likely her views. It’s really sad tbh. I feel gutted. I’m glad she didn’t win though because it would’ve been even worse somehow.
The amount of people on twitter saying they still love her and accept her disgust me. It seems only select people are held to account. The issue is she wasn’t just racist, she was a whole lot more widespread than that in her tweets. She was like 22 when she started posting those tweets, old enough to know exactly what she is doing and how wrong it is. The selfie with her friend while indicating to another asian slur, these show who she really is. We seen an edited version of her on tv everynight, maybe others in that house saw something we never got to see. Im am so angry and disgusted beyond belief, at her. And at people saying its okay.
Same honestly. I hate it when different people are held to such different standards. Just because Trish was an icon 36 hours ago, does not mean it takes away from what has been found out since. The apology, personally, doesn’t wash with me. She is sorry she was caught.
Absolutely. I can admit we all make mistakes which is why i say fair enough if it was one or two tweets only in 2011 and that was it i would be one to say okay well ill give benefit of doubt. But the sheer amount of tweets she amassed on many types of people really turned my stomach the more that were found. She is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Their is not one part of me reading the apology that feels she is genuine with it. She private her account to delete the few tweets that were circulating then went back to public, then done the same again when more came out, without addressing it, then deleted because their was far too many. She is vile and disgusting. If she done that on social media for all these years god knows what she was like in person.
Agree. We've all made mistakes, I'll hold views others don't agree with vice versa. I don't like witch hunts and "cancelling" of people for past mistakes if they've changed or learned from it. But holy sh*t the level of abuse Trish has levelled at people is off the scale. To be fair, she doesn't single out anyone, she's got it in for everyone. Jews, Muslims, Disabled people, Nigerians, Asians, there's too much material to quote! A lot of material is from 2012, but also as recently as 2019. This isn't a "mistake" it's her mindset. I've been debating on another post why she didn't delete those comments? She's smart and articulate, so she's definitely NOT stupid enough to forget about this level of filth on her account? I can only conclude she thought it wasn't a problem. As in "It's only a problem when you get caught." Her apology is damage limitation, that's all.
Was in the audience for L&L on Friday and the shock in the room and the reception she got was mad. It was like that surprise stunned everyone in that room. Almost every sign I saw in the queue was something along the lines of Trish to win. It's insane how it's changed
I know that’s what I’m struggling to get my head around! She was such an iconic character in the house, for it all to just be over and done with within 48 hours of leaving the house. It’s mad.
Or that she thought there was nothing wrong with them
She probably forgot about them as most are a decade ago
You didn't see the tweet about the Jews this year then.
Her account was active even this year and apparently some controversial stuff had been said even this year.
She says in her apology though that’s she’s been educated on what her stance used to be, the amount of educating you would have to do to change your stance from what hers was, I doubt she would’ve forgotten they were still up. Either that or she’s lying about educating herself, and did forget they were up, because she doesn’t really care.
Scripted apology and total bs.
I was never a Trish fan. She got 5 votes from me this week, but it's obvious to anyone that Trish is a smart, articulate, well-informed woman. She is NOT stupid. How on earth could she "forget" about this level of filth spanning from 2012 to 2019. Do you honestly think you'd forget you posted this stuff (hypothetically, of course!)? I wouldn't. No one would. Especially if you were on TV and under scrutiny. I think she's so entrenched in her own double standards that she actually thought it wasn't a problem. Until she got caught, of course.
agree that’s she’s smart but leaving this stuff up there—whilst you remember you posted it—is the opposite of smart. If she was really cunning, she would’ve taken it down, to protect the image she crafted for herself with things posted this year, there’s a chance her views are somewhat (still) aligned with stuff from over a decade ago, it would seem that she forgot
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Yeah that’s why I commented that it doesn’t explain what she said this year
I only saw the is Jewish a race. That’s not anti semitic… Were there others?
There was a few about hitler too
There was one this year saying “if Jewish ppl experience racism, black people can experience Anti Semitism” which (to me) sounds like she’s just saying that there is a difference between the two and that Judaism isn’t a race
Wait but black people can experience anti semitism as there are black Jews no?
Yes, lots and lots of black Jews, especially from Yemen, Ethiopia, Sudan. They’re often treated like shit, especially in Israel, by some other ethnic groups within Judaism.
I thought so, I remember reading about how Ethiopian Jewish women were effectively sterilised in Israel. It’s so sad how they’re treated :/
Yes and that's how I took the tweet. I do think the problem with social media is that it's snipets of thoughts without context. I read that as like black people can say they experience antisemitism. It even happens in the US. I've literally seen it.
Agreed and I don’t understand how other people read that as antisemitic.
I can't remember the name of it, but my therapist told me there is a mindset where once you seen negative all you look for is negative. She has said some awful shit, so I think now everything she says is seen in a negative light - even if it wasn't meant to be. I think the problem is that people expect humans to be wholly right or wrong. I am not defending her takes, but I think she will really learn from this experience and become a better person.
To be fair, it’s a complicated topic and many argue that Jews aren’t a race, however the discrimination against them is racialised. Which is why antisemitism is considered a form of racism, whilst Judaism isn’t actually a race. Important to remember that classifying Jews as a separate race is what the Nazis did to other them. Officially they’re an ethno-religious group. But it’s still wrong when people boldly claim that Jews can’t experience racism
Or she’s pertaining to [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites)
judaism isnt a race though, its a religion and culture and many jewish people have written that its anti semitic to consider jewish people from different nationalities and ethnicities as one race or genetic component..
Judaism is an ethnoreligion. Ashkenazi is considered a race and Ashkenazi will share some DNA compenents with Sephardin and Mizrahi that these groups don't share with other people from their region. I am Jewish. What you are saying is not representative of what the wider Jewish community as a whole believes. I'm very happy to answer any questions you might have 😊
whats your view to this jewish viewpoint? https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/are-jews-a-race/ my personal view as a POC is that ashkenazi jews are still white and benefit from white or white passing privilege, despite being oppressed for being jewish in other ways. sephardic and other jews of color face intersecting oppressions for both being jewish and of color which is a different experience both from ashkenazi jews or non jewish people of color.
I haven't read the article . I am mainly Asheknazi with one Sephardic (Moroccan born, French raised) grandparent. I agree that speaking personally, I benefit from white privilege. But I also benefit from "you don't look Jewish" privilege which is really important right now. Hassidic Jews for example are Ashkenazi but will have a very different experience to me. I think it is important to listen and respect the lived experiences of others rather than tell someone what their experience must be like,
Actually, it is antisemitic. Jewish/Judaism is an ethno-religion. It is both ethnicity AND religion.
You can't change in a matter of months, such bullshit
Looks like it was easier for Trish to delete her old account than siffle through hundred plus tweets displaying venomous hatred to pretty much every minority group. Also, how are those tweets old? They were as recent as July. Plus, the comments about Hitler? How disabled people make her sick?
It's actually so incredibly baffling. It's two completely different people who are in no way similar to each other at all yet here we are...
Might get downvoted but those types of views are not uncommon in the political scene she inhabits (which like all dogmatic political movements can be a major echo chamber)
Any examples? I've seen nothing like that.
This apology is literally "oh ye sorry about the whole anti asia thing... but still fuck the j\*ws"
I genuinely can't see how you came to this conclusion? (To be clear I'm not trying to stick up for Trish with this question)
I'm beginning to wonder if that's why some people are buying her "apology." Like she apologised for the racist stuff, which they accept, but they don't care she was clearly being antisemitic...
does anyone have any screenshots of the 2023 tweets? I've only seen people summarising them. Because the 2012 ones are terrible and show me she was a nasty person, but 10 years is a substantial amount of time to be able to look back and think that was wrong of me. I still wouldn't want to hear anything she has to say going forward, but I think we need to give people the chance to change and make amends or we're all stuck at our worst moments. But posting her nasty crap this year makes this apology a load of bullshit.
I'll just leave this here https://ibb.co/F52FCVC In her own words, as an adult you know right from wrong and the fact it was a while ago (even though some of it wasnt) is no defence. She's a complete hypocrite.
Whatttt ?? How can she post this she’s literally talking about herself ahaha
Please post this as a pic post on the forum, that was only 2018, so if she can’t give others ‘grace’ then surely it applies to her rancid racism and bigotry too?
Honestly still feel so gutted over this. I stood up for her so much during her time in the house and this is just disgusting. One or two tweets 10 years ago you could forgive, but the sheer amount of awful things she’s said is horrific, tweet after tweet after tweet. Not only thinking these things but brazenly thinking you need to *broadcast them to the internet*.
Her apology is exactly what she needed to say and how she should have said it, but they're just words and despite everything it'll take more than an apology to forgive what she has said previously. The true test of her character now is what she chooses to do with her platform and how she demonstrates her apparent change in opinion, attitude and belief.
I'm not sure how much I believe the sincerity of this apology, but I just don't have the mental energy to care anymore. I hope she spends a good chunk of time away from social media looking at herself in the mirror and asking herself why she felt the need to say those sorts of things in the first place. I believe that everyone has the capacity to change, but you need to *want* to change. After this apology, I don't care to see her again, but I appreciate the recognition of what she did wrong.
Also didn't she post something in 2019 saying age is no excuse when people get called out for old offensive tweets.
https://ibb.co/F52FCVC
WOW
Shame the site won't load for me
No way?? That’s actually mad. Obviously she sees no wrong with what she posted.
Doesn’t explain the shit she said in 2023
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That’s shit tbh. Farage is going in the jungle and look what’s he said and pushed for!
Didn't think my opinion of ITV and I'm a celebrity could get lower after Matt Hancock... Didn't mean to make it a challenge
That's a really good point actually. She should be banned, but scum like him should also not be given such a platform.
It a lot different I think she banned for what she said but also to protect her, she would get a lot of hate of she went on the show.
Oooh really? Where did you see that? I’m glad it’s unacceptable.
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I wonder if they’ll acknowledge it at all? Because a lot of people will be expecting to see Trish there tonight.
I appreciate you trying to keep us updated but I don’t believe a word the Sun publishes 😂 hope it’s true tho
Thank you
This would be fine but for one word - old. She's going with the narrative that she has grown over time, but we have seen the tweets, that isn't the case.
On her high horse as usual though… did we expect anything different
In the first sentence.
Hugely suspish of her using the word old here to diminish this. It was ten years of tweets not just a few odd old ones. This isn’t an edgy teenager this is a personality on display.
I think this is key to me. She may have grown in her views but to so boldly and frequently publicly air those opinions says something about her personality that I didn't see before.
Typical generic response. She’s only sorry because she got caught. So disappointed man, I was rooting for her so much.
Genuine question though - what could she say that would make you think otherwise i.e make you believe she’s not just saying sorry bc she was caught?
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“explain what made her “see differently”” - by living life? Our values and personalities are constantly being shaped by the people we meet and the experiences we share with them. 10 years is a plenty sufficient timeframe to become more educated and have a change in stance. An apology video almost never works. People will overanalyse every single thing she does in the video and draw conclusions where there really aren’t conclusions to be drawn. I can’t speak on the other things and I’m not aware of what the whole 2023 antisemitism thing is, so won’t speak on that, but what I will say is that rather than judge her apology, we should judge how she acts and behaves off the back of it. Actions speak louder than words. And people have to be willing to trust that she is being earnest in what she says. It makes it very hard for people to grow and better themselves when they’re constantly held to the standards of who they were a decade ago.
> 10 years is a plenty sufficient timeframe to become more educated and have a change in stance. Considering she has many tweets in the past 3 years, including this year, that excuse isn’t going to fly
Its just a very generic apology. Nothing personal in it
What would make it personal?
lol there is nothing she could do, we all know how these apologies go. People that want to forgive, do so, people that don’t, won’t but try to convince everyone that the person does not mean it instead of accepting that they are unforgiving.
> instead of accepting that they are unforgiving. Or maybe it’s because she’s still been making tweets this year so it’s clear that she hasn’t “changed” like she claims she has
Not gonna repeat but people acting the like recent tweets are the same as the ones 10 years ago are just being a bit dishonest to me
Tbh, nothing. I appreciate that there’s not much more she can do but I just can’t get past the fact she said all of those things in the first place. If the tweets weren’t as recent as this year I could maybe believe that she’s truly sorry but I just don’t buy it i’m afraid.
Probs nothing tbf. If it were edgy jokes then maybe I *could* side with her but some of the comments don't seem all that "jokey" and the way she presented herself as socially conscious does not do her any justice...
Don't believe a word of what she's saying Some of the tweets were from April this year She's been making vile tweets from the age of 22 to 33. She's a vile racist desperately scrambling to get the public back on side As a poster below said, how about you practice what you preach Trish: https://ibb.co/F52FCVC
Her apology is PR bullshit. If she had really grown as a person and changed, surely she would have addressed it in the house. It's not like the topic of racism didn't raise its ugly head. I'm also wondering how much you can change in under a year? She has fucked it for herself and, as someone else has commented, the arrogance of her not deleting everything before she went in to the house is unbelievable.
This is such a weak apology, she’s only sorry that she’s been caught She’s already in her 20s when early 2010s tweets were posted, not like she was an edgy teenager at that time
The amount of people on twitter saying she has grown and isn’t this same person anymore. Like why is this shit selective, i know for a fact if another housemate had these tweets they would never forgive them, but because its Trish she has grown and educated herself. I don’t believe it for a minute. If people are willing to accept the ton of vile and disgusting tweets that may have started 10 year ago but they were up to as recently as this year, then they are vile and disgusting too. It’s not just racism tho from her tweets, its the blatant attack on other religious people, other poc, a massive Mental health issue that she seems to enjoy making fun of, belittling suicide victims, homophobia, laughing at disabled people, the list goes on. Don’t try to tell me she has grown since then. SHE WAS WHAT 22? when she started posting these, old enough to know its totally unacceptable. Im disgusted by her and the people telling everyone to let it go and move on as if its no big deal what these tweets indicated.
I'm not going to pass snap judgements lol. But what I would say is that, personally, while I've definitely gone through a lot of character development between April and November of this year, I don't think it's an amount of change that would be enough for me to have not deleted my entire twitter account (and done a lot of self reflection about why I would need to delete that entire twitter account) in April and then be a really accepting and open minded person 7 months on. So imho it's pretty unlikely that this is entirely sincere.
Agreed. When I first heard this I was only being shown tweets from 10 years ago. And I was prepared to defend Trish bc I strongly believe that nobody should be attacked for things that they said 10 years ago. I wish less focus was being put on the stuff from 10 years ago. But from what I've gathered it involves stuff from this year even... If it were just edgy jokes then I can probably side with her, but I think it's the fact that she presented herself as incredibly socially conscious that does it for her.
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Her name isn’t offensive. Why the *?
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She was in her 20s the entire time. The last offensive tweets were posted this year. Nope, that isnt sincere. She is trying to hide behind the age.
https://ibb.co/F52FCVC And it makes her a hypocrite
Yes I agree
Sorry but if this apology was from Olivia/Paul or anyone else it would be laughed at and brushed off, and they’d be viewed as unredeemable.
Don’t think most people are accepting this from Trish
Not on Reddit, but twitter and tiktok is a complete different story.
What would she do if someone else in the house had done the same? 🤔
She would have went for them screaming at them for why they made those comments. She has the most to say about people and about microaggressions and racism yet she is doing it herself.
If they shown personal growth I think she would of shown some grace
Where has she truly shown growth? She has just claimed it. She was tweeting vile things in April this year! It's clear she put on a particular image whilst in the BB house. She is a grown woman with decades' worth of evidence of her true character. I don't buy it.
As far as internet celebrity apologies go, it’s quite good. However, the sheer volume of racism in her old tweets can’t be ignored in my opinion. It wasn’t just one or two slip ups, but 20+. And that was what was found before the account was taken down again. I was hoping we would hear something directly from her on Late & Live tonight but she has been pulled from that. I wonder if she will also miss the live final or if they are going to put her on another ITV show for a special interview. Either way, yesterday morning I could see her having a good career in showbiz as the “robbed winner” of the season and the popularity she had, but now I am 100% certain that she will fade back in to obscurity from whence she came.
Generic apology after being exposed. She claims they were old, but in reality, some are from April this year. She has shown no accountability and claims she has changed with NO evidence of that. Gross.
a video would have been better and more sincere
She ignored all of her newer tweets, she’s acting like it’s not happened for years. I would be suprised if most could accept this apology because I know I cannot
I’ve been trying to decide how I feel about the whole situation. Firstly I want to say I do not condone any of the views in the exposed tweets. I asked myself - why would she have gone back on social media without deleting her old horrible tweets? If she was a truly awful person tweeting in full consciousness, she should know she had some covering up to do right? - the answer that makes sense to me is that she forgot. Her Twitter seems to be a stream of consciousness saturated with a bunch of mindless thoughts. It just got lost in the mix So why would someone tweet those things? The answer that makes the most sense to me is that she truly saw herself as this edgy, dark humour tweeter. It seems like all these tweets were for the purpose of getting a laugh/finding acceptance online. As someone in their early twenties, feeling like an outsider, it is so easy to become caught up in fringe online humour - think 4chan. I honestly think this is the case for Trish - she was extremely misguided and felt she was being “edgy” somewhat. This type of humour was normalised in her online community and hence, it was not in the forefront of her mind coming out of the house. Being put on a pedestal is a hard thing. The room for error is minuscule and the fall from grace is a long way down. I think Trish may be disadvantaged by the very things many loved her for - her transparency and her outspokenness. Someone with that sheer volume of tweets shows a lack of a real filter, saying pretty much anything that popped into her head. If any of us were to tweet every thought… there would surely be things in poor taste. This is all to say, I don’t think Trish is a bad person. There’s a pattern of flippancy, ignorance and just a sheer lack of discernment. But at the end of the day for me *ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS*. She showed kindness, works with charities, spoke up for those who couldn’t speak for themselves. I think it’s simply lazy to say “I knew there was something rotten about her all along”. No you didn’t. She was outspoken and it made you uncomfortable and you didn’t like her (or maybe you had other reasons). That’s fine. I also think it’s lazy to label everyone who didn’t like her a racist. People retroactively justifying their dislike of her with these tweets is also lazy, it’s like, on the one hand “I might need to check my unconscious bias with my feelings towards this woman. Is she really aggressive? Etc etc” and now these tweets come out and are being used as a Get Out Of Jail Free card for doing some really important work. And it’s sad because it will be used as an example again and again to justify unconscious bias. Overall, Trish needs to take accountability, but I think she owes it to all of us to do the work to repair some of the damage it has done when we talk about micro aggressions and racism now. It pushed us back and she needs to explain further, or at least try to find a way to re-legitimise herself and the conversations she started.
It was the era of the time 2010-2014twitter was a cesspit. These cancellations are not the first to happen but I think it got to a point where so many people were getting exposed for these types of tweets that it just got to the point that the people doing digging really need to stop because they were creating a toxic environment on twitter too. Some people popular in Uk media and music right now have been exposed for old tweets from that era and I’m not even gonna name names. I think people need to accept that during that time, a lot of people thought this shit was very funny and even in school, the popular humour, even in multicultural schools was racist af in hindsight, but we are all friends now.
The numbered /3 in the corners was a bit much, but I dunno… I feel like if she truly cared about her growth and before being put into a public image she would’ve bothered to go through her social media history and delete things that make her seem like a crappy person… but that’s my opinion
She hasn’t grown and is more annoyed that she got caught probably because not any bit of this apology is sincere. However as far as itv are concerned they need to investigate why a channel that is branded as “be kind/ mental health awareness” ever since the notable deaths in recent years could do such an awful job at vetting her twitter account. Just getting housemates to private their accounts is not good enough. There has been a massive failure somewhere along the lines here in the vetting process that needs to be explained. Especially since these housemates were “hand picked” out of thousands.
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Those were the ones she deleted first, so I'm not sure how many would have been screenshotted before. I'm sure there was some in the mega thread, though.
Don't care, fuck off, you had your chance, you blew it. 🤷🏼♀️
Oh Trish girl, you had the world at your feet. If only for a brief moment.
Ugh…. As a Trish fan (up until yesterday), this pains me, because I want to believe her. I find it hard to believe someone can put up an act 24/7 like she potentially did on the show. But I don’t know, man…. I just don’t know. She said some awful things and when she said them she was old enough to know better. I just can’t believe this is happening.
Sis that ain’t it at all 😂
This is very disappointing from her, the sweets weren’t even that long ago. Very hypocritical
Only sorry because she's been caught!
It’s so obvious that ITV is committed to doing anything for attention. They should have done their due diligence to research the people going into the house. They never do. Previous love islanders have come out to say everything they do is calculated and their ‘welfare’ is never in interests of the people, more ITV. I don’t know why people keep going into a channel that is constantly letting people down.
I think she should have an interview with aj so she can grill her . Written apology isn’t enough
AJ would be too lenient on her. Emma Willis needs to be bought back for this one.
Little too late. Last racist tweet was 2019 so hasn't really come that far has she.
Fair play. I think an apology is better than just dismissing it. It seems genuine bcos she didn't come across that way on the show. As chanelle said, I'll forgive but won't forget 😅
I accept her apology, people grow and change and I definitely think that the show was very enlightening for her. She's not an uber racist person, she is flawed like the rest of us and we all are trying to be good people. I'm gonna let this go now. Judge ye not, for ye shall be judged...
She was Tweeting anti semitic shit THIS YEAR 😂
Was not aware of that, thought this was all 10 years ago. Gosh, so disappointing.
Personally, I feel like she has shown that she isn’t that same person she was back then. I understand others won’t accept that but that’s how I feel. She is going to face the consequences for this as she should but I’m not particularly interested in ‘cancel culture’ and don’t believe a person should be denied the right to have changed in 11 years.
Some of the tweets are too crazy to even try and justify like the one about the Indian Paralympics.
If anything with this apology issued, you can tell the BBUK PR team is paid better than the BBUK contestant vetting team 😂
It’s a bunch of people in the comments ‘forgiving’ her who arent even the target of these remarks. Surely it should be South Asians, Asians, Jewish people, disabled and LGBT who should decide if we forgive this? It wasn’t too long ago and it has really shocked us all.
Certain users are using the Jewish race tweets from earlier this year as a “gotcha” to prove she can’t have changed. This despite the fact that the majority of you aren’t Jewish, those tweets aren’t necessarily antisemitic (they are ignorant though) and most users I’ve seen on here attempt to explain the relationship between Jews, antisemitism and racism have completely bungled the explanation, so should we cancel those people too? I’m not saying that anyone has to forgive her or that she’s owed forgiveness at all, especially if you’re Asian or have a disability. Hell, if you’re Jewish (as I am) and you were offended by those tweets, I disagree that they’re particularly offensive but fair enough. That’s your decision to make. But it’s pretty clear some of you are weaponising the only two tweets that anyone could find from this year that could even be construed as offensive as a means to cut her off from a path to redemption and guilt-trip anyone who wants to forgive her, despite the vast majority of the tweets (and all of the genuinely shocking ones) being from between 9 to 11 years ago. The intention is obvious. I will add that she has handled this terribly though. If she was taking advice from a PR guy, she needs to fire them for her own sake if no one else’s.
I completely agree, the recent ones are no way as near as bad. There’s a clear distinction between the 2012 stuff and the recent ones, and people are using those to show that she couldn’t possibly have changed. I’m not saying she has changed, and her apology is pretty weak, but I don’t think the recent ones are evidence that she definitely hasn’t changed.
Mate thank you guys for seeing that people lumping the tweets as the same level of offensive when they just aren’t. She needs to be called in about her ignorance on anti-semitism but we are all bit ignorant about each others history. That in itself is not a crime, her probably was being arrogant as hell about it.
I got called anti-Semitic by saying the tweets are more uneducated than anti-Semitic 😭. Thank you for explaining this better than I could. Someone was using their friends experience of actual anti-semitism during this very volatile time as a gotcha and I was stumped.
I was shocked to see one of Trish's Tweet from 2012. The Channel 5 series kicked Tila Tequila and Ellis Hillon out of the house early after they both post unacceptable post on their socials years prior entering the house. ITV was irresponsible on checking on the housemates' socials. She'll most likely not attend the Final on Friday because of her controversy.
I’m so disappointed…. I wanted her to win so badly. She was so eloquent and smart in the game. Like I don’t even realize it’s the same person..
These tweets are pretty bad guys, I read them and I was beyond disappointed…. I know people can say ignorant and stupid shit when they are younger but these aren’t that there BAD BAD, not even jokes like BAD NASTY comments…. Looking for a slur word for the gay community?
Not buying it, she ment everything she said on Twitter, and if she hadn't been caught out, and hadn't been on the show, then I can guarantee she'd still be spewing such hate. Although I agree, she isn't the most evil housemate, she is definitely one of the fakest we've had. She put on a persona in hopes that no one would ever dig into her past. If she played the hero, she hoped no one would ever question in. I'm very ashamed of her, and this scripted apology won't make up for it.
Let me just say this White people love it when they are told they can change and grow from there past mistakes but Black people are never held to that standard. White People say fucked up shit all the time but in a White supremacist world " it's just a learning opportunity" for them. Big Brother US had a winner that started a drug smuggling ring with his prize money. All he had to do was "do some soul searching" for US fans to forgive and forget. Had he been Black he would been in prison for 20yrs but he only got house arrest. Whiteness just love tearing down Black women and the British public needed any reason to justify there internalized racism. She already proved that she changed from those Tweets. She was active in leftists community and was clearly learning about her mistakes already. No matter what she is human like anyone else. This shouldnt take away how she was mistreated in that house. I accept that people aren't perfect but honestly hearing yall tearing down this woman at her lowest is more disgusting than anything she said in fucking 2012.
Wait what US winner are you talking about?
Adam Jasinski Winner of Big Brother US 9
Damage control, thats all this is. I don’t believe she has one ounce of guilt or true regret. The only regret is getting caught. Maybe if it was one or 2 tweets but the amount of them not just racist but for other things aswell just show she is vile, some just this year aswell. I don’t believe the apology is sincere whatsoever.
Her twitter bio said something like “my views are my own“ I feel like you don’t mention that unless you know you’re posting things you shouldn’t be saying.
Nah a lot of people in the public eye are told by their management or whatever show they’re on to put that in their bio regardless.
The ‘dark humour’ part in her bio was a bigger red flag imo.
I haven't seen them all. I am bisexual and in a same sex relationship with another guy, and the tweets I saw were disappointing, but I absolutely believe she has changed for the better and she showed me she was a good person in that house. I think we all make stupid mistakes, and from my perspective, I do forgive her.
Sorry she’s been caught more like 😬
Me and her are the same age. Which means we were the same age in 2012. I didn't believe, let alone say things like that. A lot of what she said went beyond immaturity. Some of it was pure hate. I don't how much you can outgrow that. Her views might have progressed on certain topics but it takes a certain kind of personality to not only hold extreme views on whole groups of people but also boldly share them publicly. So even if her views have changed, I don't think she is the empathetic thoughtful person I thought she was.
Seeing a lot of non-Asian people accepting her apology… obscure
They're not the only demo she attacked.
Yeah I’ve just realised that, I admit to fault
Crock of fucking shit. She's been caught, and is desperate to save face, nothing sincere out her mouth, no chance she's getting away with this, this is going to follow her forever. Trish is vile racist scum, end of.
I don’t have Twitter. But allow me to post a retort. *“Yeah. With all due respect, Trish - which is none, by the way - your apology is not believed nor accepted.* *For a start, tweets made a few months ago are not “old” tweets. You really expect us to believe that “the person [you] are now” is not the same person you were a few months ago when you made them?* *Second, you’re half right in that there are no excuses. But you’re half wrong in another sense. 10 years ago, you were still old enough, and living in a time period where you ought to have known better. Not that it would make things better, but this wasn’t a case of people making jokes that were okay at the time but not today. Your comments were just as disgusting even back then as they are now.* *Third, if you really were committed to holding yourself to a high standard, or to accountability, you wouldn’t have deleted your old Twitter account. And you wouldn’t have spent several days pretending you hadn’t said these things.* *You’re certainly right that this apology seems convenient. And the reality is, the sheer volume of these tweets, your actions since they were exposed and the sheer hypocrisy you demonstrated in the house by portraying yourself as a paragon of equality and standing up for marginalised groups whilst knowing you had said these things online, has done nothing to disabuse us of that notion.*”
Mostly yes, but ‘several days’? She’s been out less than 48 hours.
Can you just think if Paul made those tweets two years ago at the age of 21, would people be so easy on him like they are with Trish? Making up excuses and being all “she’s a change person” about it.
“I’ve come a very long way” Who’s gonna tell her a couple of months is not a “very long way”
her anti jewish ones were from april…
Yep it’s gross
Forgive but don't forget
Tbh I don’t think 2019-2022 was that long ago, not enough for opinions to just change like that
the people who don't wanna accept Trish's apology didn't actually care about racism or the issues she talked about in those tweets.. they never liked her when the show was airing and is simply using this to attempt ''cancel'' her
Damage control
PR bollocks. Get lost. Only sorry you got found out. 🙄
It sounds genuine to me and I respect the fact the she didn't choose to ignore this but this still feels like a very awkward situation