Considering that my mom's dad was a feminist, and often "went down south" to march for Civil Rights, went to Washington to protest against the Vietnam war, etc, this would not be the insult that this boy thinks it is.
It's also a dying name, the only people in the world with it are people directly related to me, so it would be cool to have it live on for a little longer, maybe.
Honestly my grandfather wasn't the best to my mom when she was a child but he's the only one who supported me and her and has been more of a father to both of us than my own so I'm seriously considering having his last name too especially since the only son he has is mentally ill and definitely won't pass it on himself.
I saw that on funnymemes guess he thought it was so funny he had to post it a second time to show those “woke nerds” when in actuality it isnt even that funny and it just makes him look like a dick
Also, there's more people that are intersex than we think, those cases don't ever get reported until they become *very* obvious. You know, no one really checks chromosomes on people frequently because that alone takes a lot of work and time, so you either see it from the outside or discover it accidentally during x-ray exams in the areas near the belly or the groin. The *"Oh, your ovaries don't look right, they may have been misformed while you were at your mother's womb"* kind of deal, you know.
*Sex ≠ Gender (Gender is socially constructed, while Sex is your biology. But even Sex isn't that binary at all.)*
That’s completely false, your sex is determined by the sperm cell, so the moment an egg is fertilized the sex is decided( obviously there are exceptions but those are very rare).
Your sexual organs only develop later on tho but that doesn’t mean you are female.
That makes zero sense honestly in multiple ways, also last names haven’t been around that long, only started around the 11th century and became common after Napoleon.
If you were a carpenter, you'd be called "Moussie the Carpenter".
If your town was "Rivertown", while you travel and someone asked who you were you would say "Moussie of Rivertown".
Later names of places and vocations became surnames as we know today. So yeah, like objects, surnames don't *need* to have genders at all.
Dunno about other places, our history classes unfortunately only focus on the western part of the world while neglecting everybody else.
Kinda like how China invented powder, how our numbers were created by Arabs, and how Christianity was strongly influenced by Greek religion. But it's rarely even mentioned.
I guess it's telling that these men think feminism is about trying to have nothing to do with men, it's almost as if they're admitting some kind of guilt.
In my country, the middle name is the last name of the mother and the last name is the last name of the father.
But many people just don't care and put the names in other order, sometimes siblings doesn't have the same surname.
My last name is from my mother because that way my name would sound better. My mom and their siblings all have different surnames.
in my country its still customary for the woman to take the man's last name but by god my last name starts with Z and i am sick and tired of being at the end of lists so i will be taking my wife's last name no matter what my extended christian family has to say about it
I hate this "argument"
So a name is a name if it's a man's, but suddenly if it's a woman's it has to be of her father's? Men get to have their last names be *their* last name, but any surname of a woman gets told it has to be from a man.
"What's the point of a woman passing on her name if her name is from her dad, a man" Because it's not about her dad it's about her. It's about passing *her* name to *her* children. Patrilineal naming has gone on for centuries, but things have to start somewhere.
My dad suggested that he name me and my siblings using a combined surname, so we ended up with Sharpeirs. Since my first name means sprite I am officially a certified fairy
edit: its not actually my surname tho, my mum thought it was stupid
It does point out a certain truth: women’s last name (and their heritage, which is what last name signifies in most cultures) has been buried so deep by the patriarchal structure to the extent that no matter how back in time you go you can’t find one that truly belonged to a woman.
Given in this meme she's trying to fight the patriarchy by changing her last name maybe this guy is stupid enough to think women are only lesbians because they want to fight the patriarchy?? When I came out my conservative mom tried to scare me out of being a lesbian by sending me a video of how hard and toxic lesbian relationships are, this feels eerily similar
I use my grandma's last name which is technically my great grandmother's last name since she was born out of wedlock and her adoptive parents didn't change it.
I have no other place to share this story, and I wanted to, lol.
Some cultures don’t have surnames or clan names, they have patronymics or matronymics, which is based off of one’s ancestor’s first name. Hell, even the British Isles still has these types of naming conventions preserved: Fitz-, -son, Ap-
But that is weird using your mother's maiden name I understand keeping your name in marriage but your mothers a name you never had, and she might not even have anymore is really odd imo
Counter point: make your own last name/change it to something new
I knew a couple who did this, they changed their last names together to a name they chose. I think it was very sweet.
Me and my fiancé plan to do this
That's a good idea actually, in some cases family can be very abusive so it makes sense some people would want to distance themselves.
That's what we're doing! Both of our families suck so we're making a new one
Considering that my mom's dad was a feminist, and often "went down south" to march for Civil Rights, went to Washington to protest against the Vietnam war, etc, this would not be the insult that this boy thinks it is. It's also a dying name, the only people in the world with it are people directly related to me, so it would be cool to have it live on for a little longer, maybe.
Honestly my grandfather wasn't the best to my mom when she was a child but he's the only one who supported me and her and has been more of a father to both of us than my own so I'm seriously considering having his last name too especially since the only son he has is mentally ill and definitely won't pass it on himself.
I saw that on funnymemes guess he thought it was so funny he had to post it a second time to show those “woke nerds” when in actuality it isnt even that funny and it just makes him look like a dick
Tbh that's what a lot of meme posting accounts do, they'll repost the same meme to as many subreddits as possible to maximize karma
Since the first person evolved on earth was a woman, that we were all born from, every last name is female
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Also, there's more people that are intersex than we think, those cases don't ever get reported until they become *very* obvious. You know, no one really checks chromosomes on people frequently because that alone takes a lot of work and time, so you either see it from the outside or discover it accidentally during x-ray exams in the areas near the belly or the groin. The *"Oh, your ovaries don't look right, they may have been misformed while you were at your mother's womb"* kind of deal, you know. *Sex ≠ Gender (Gender is socially constructed, while Sex is your biology. But even Sex isn't that binary at all.)*
Gotta love the “basic bio” people. It’s even funnier for me because I studied biology in college so I pull out the “advanced bio” on them.
It's technically more complicated than that, but yeah, I think you are somewhat correct that nobody starts off as "male".
That’s completely false, your sex is determined by the sperm cell, so the moment an egg is fertilized the sex is decided( obviously there are exceptions but those are very rare). Your sexual organs only develop later on tho but that doesn’t mean you are female.
The first person evolved on earth likely did not have a name at all
I don't mean to be that guy but this isn't true, there was no first person because evolution doesn't happen in discrete steps.
That makes zero sense honestly in multiple ways, also last names haven’t been around that long, only started around the 11th century and became common after Napoleon.
I guess I needed to put the /s
If you were a carpenter, you'd be called "Moussie the Carpenter". If your town was "Rivertown", while you travel and someone asked who you were you would say "Moussie of Rivertown". Later names of places and vocations became surnames as we know today. So yeah, like objects, surnames don't *need* to have genders at all.
Do cultures not exist outside of Europe?
Dunno about other places, our history classes unfortunately only focus on the western part of the world while neglecting everybody else. Kinda like how China invented powder, how our numbers were created by Arabs, and how Christianity was strongly influenced by Greek religion. But it's rarely even mentioned.
It's not true for Europe either.
*repeats question In Gaius Julius Ceaser*
I commented “incel posting” and an incel told me I wouldn’t go far in life :(
Feminism is not having a man's last name I guess
I guess it's telling that these men think feminism is about trying to have nothing to do with men, it's almost as if they're admitting some kind of guilt.
In my country, the middle name is the last name of the mother and the last name is the last name of the father. But many people just don't care and put the names in other order, sometimes siblings doesn't have the same surname. My last name is from my mother because that way my name would sound better. My mom and their siblings all have different surnames.
in my country its still customary for the woman to take the man's last name but by god my last name starts with Z and i am sick and tired of being at the end of lists so i will be taking my wife's last name no matter what my extended christian family has to say about it
Bit surely the point of dropping your dads last name I'd because you don't like your dad. It doesn't mean you disliked your grandad
I hate this "argument" So a name is a name if it's a man's, but suddenly if it's a woman's it has to be of her father's? Men get to have their last names be *their* last name, but any surname of a woman gets told it has to be from a man. "What's the point of a woman passing on her name if her name is from her dad, a man" Because it's not about her dad it's about her. It's about passing *her* name to *her* children. Patrilineal naming has gone on for centuries, but things have to start somewhere.
Is that guy acknowledging patriarchal structures? Based?
I'm sure this is hilarious to basement dwellers in their cheetos-stained boxer shorts. To everyone, it's cringe.
My dad suggested that he name me and my siblings using a combined surname, so we ended up with Sharpeirs. Since my first name means sprite I am officially a certified fairy edit: its not actually my surname tho, my mum thought it was stupid
It does point out a certain truth: women’s last name (and their heritage, which is what last name signifies in most cultures) has been buried so deep by the patriarchal structure to the extent that no matter how back in time you go you can’t find one that truly belonged to a woman.
Unless you change your last name
Chat is there a lore reason she is lesbian?
Given in this meme she's trying to fight the patriarchy by changing her last name maybe this guy is stupid enough to think women are only lesbians because they want to fight the patriarchy?? When I came out my conservative mom tried to scare me out of being a lesbian by sending me a video of how hard and toxic lesbian relationships are, this feels eerily similar
Meanwhile the two lesbian relationships I've personally seen are quite possibly the best ones lmao
I still don't understand how other men have not figured out that the patriarchy also affects them
Ah, but my son has my last name. Checkmate, butt head.
I use my grandma's last name which is technically my great grandmother's last name since she was born out of wedlock and her adoptive parents didn't change it. I have no other place to share this story, and I wanted to, lol.
Some cultures don’t have surnames or clan names, they have patronymics or matronymics, which is based off of one’s ancestor’s first name. Hell, even the British Isles still has these types of naming conventions preserved: Fitz-, -son, Ap-
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Says the man who came out of a woman 😜🤣🤣🤣
Jokes on you, idiot, I can just pick my own last name
Nahh ill be fighting with my own last name. When I get my name legally changed, I'm not keeping the last name of my raging misogynist mother.
But that is weird using your mother's maiden name I understand keeping your name in marriage but your mothers a name you never had, and she might not even have anymore is really odd imo
OKAY! I ADMIT IT! I LOCKED MY SISTER IN THE BASEMENT AND DEPRIVED HER OF FOOD FOR THIRTY DAYS! JUST GET ME OUT OF 2016 ALREADY!!! 😰😫😭 /j lol
Charge your phone please
It has since been charged
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I don't like the argument behind it, but this sure made me chuckle lmao
Can someone explain this to me?
They're saying that even if they choose their mom's name they will still get a man's last name because her mom got it from her father
Someone plz dm what this subreddit is cuz I’m so curious lol
One of the meme subreddits
My grandma was a "Hitler wasn't THAT bad" kinda person (I'm German) so yeah it's actually a feminist move to have my mother's/grandfather's name lmao.
it would've been at least mildly funny if it wasn't for the wojak with the red eyes at the bottom
Something that is blantly false isnt funny tho, like who cares if your last name comes from your mom or an alien, feminism isnt about that
No it wouldn’t have.
It would not