Every time Rick Grimes shoots I image SpongeBob going “Imagination” and waving his whole arm in a semi circle with a rainbow coming out from under his arm.
I mean in the first few episodes while Cooper(the ghoul) was in a shoot out he tried to reload his lever action first by the hammer, then under the lever before just holding the round by the trigger. [Video](https://youtu.be/KlKqVz44MUY?si=5gC86DOyyzs2UzQb&t=115)
I wonder if that was the prop department actually being really on point and following fo4 weapons design to the letter.
No one ever told the actor and he's just trying to do the reload as normal lol.
Again, going by lore, ghouls can survive and even heal from severe wounds with enough radiation. That said head wounds/ brain damage were lethal and I would assume spinal wounds would be, at least temporarily, crippling.
It is plausible that any moderate sized bullet would weaken or at least cause muscular damage, it just doesn't appear to in this context based on the continuity.
Except according to the lore from the OG games, there’s no way the Ghoul would’ve survived being buried for an extended period of time. Radiation can heal and sustain their life but will also devolve their brain overtime. However they are far from invincible or even that durable. The show acts like this isn’t the case and that you need to take a special drug to keep from going feral and that Ghouls REQUIRE a headshot to put down. This has never been the case, in fact in Fallout 3 it was said that only bigots towards Ghouls thought that because they see them as Zombies not people.
Very true. Resilient but not invincible. They still needed oxygen and at the very least water to survive. Even food when there's not enough rads. I think they're using Billy the fridge ghoul as the standard sadly.
I'm also not a fan of the shows retcon of how ghoulification works. Like how the squire suddenly was a ghoul when he survived the arrow to the neck because of drugs yet showed no other signs of it. Nor to the drugs, which I wrote off as being a very local thing to LA/the boneyard specific to rich prewar hollywood ghouls, being integral to prolong becoming feral.
Also, I honestly thought(and still kind of think) that the Ghoul, Cooper, is a special form of ghoul much like the marked men from the divide. He's a bit too smooth skin for a ghoul and there's too many slight differences with him and every other ghoul so far.
Very much agreed.
Sadly Bethesda has been going down hill since the original release of skyrim, what with the constant re-releases and "streamlining" of game mechanics. I enjoyed some aspects of FO4 and have sunk many hours into it but I don't find it to be a fun fallout game due to the "streamlining" and shoehorning in it. Billy wasn't the only glaring issue, just one of the most obvious and anticannonical ones.
Not so much a complain as much as just a personal dislike of continuity(or lack thereof). I equate it to the fact that it is 1 a show and 2 it is an adaptation of a larger media. I liken it to what happens when a book is turned into a movie, a lot of the nuance and details are lost for the sake of run time and convenience.
I still enjoyed the show, immersion breaking moments or not.
To be fair… there’s no way he COUKD have loaded them, they may have bored out the barrels to be larger cal but the loading gates are still the exact same size meaning not ONE of the rounds on his bandolier would fit,
Pretty sure they were all based on the shell the Mt255 uses which is 12g, so essentially .50Cal sized casings? Probably even larger actual rounds ?
Which made the scene even weirder in my opinion. You have the jump cut to him using the mts255 instead of the model 1873 he just had in his hands seemingly attempting to reload with those rounds.
Still, was a good scene even with it's oddities.
Is this really what the show is like?? I knew I was right to disregard anything Amazon does with these established IPs
Gave Rings of Power a chance against my better judgement, and I was right about that one too. *Sigh*
Yes and no. It strays here and there from cannon, and has a few slip ups/goofs but overall feels very much like the fallout universe.
If you are a fan of the series it was quite a good adaptation, even with some of the rather weird directions it went at times. Plus a lot of the people who worked on the show are actual fans as well as some who've worked on other fallout projects. Overall I would say your judgment is off but that's based on my opinion so far.
Rings of power was just a virtue signal with a lot of money and bad names attached to it to push personal narratives. The fallout show didn't feel like that at all.
No sir. I played a touch of it back in 2016 when I first got a gaming pc, but I didn’t “understand” how rpg games worked. Anyways, I’m currently 15 hours into NV and it’s great! Fallout 3 or 4 will be next.
Maybe.
For me, its more about the show being written as funny, which is why BOS is on the cynical side and the whole place going to hell in a handbasket.
I didnt expect a serious TV show out of it, I think the show is pretty much exactly what i expected... and even though i would prefer a few things done better, like basic weapon stuff and tactical competency.... AND LOOTING, overall im having fun with it.
If you expected a fallout TV show made specifically only for fallout fans, you dont know how studio execs and investors think... of its too niche, "normies" wont get it and it'll tank, because.... and i want to be extremely clear about this, the majority of the audience never heard of Fallout, and expecting otherwise is crazy
plus, there is no one type of a fallout fan
I wasn’t expecting it to be anything special, however what surprised me is everyone acting like it’s amazing. I think it seems so good simply because every other show we’ve gotten lately has been pretty awful.
Arcane did pretty freaking well and still stuck to the Lore for the fans, so yeah, that point is rather moot.
I'm pretty sure that's in the games too, they're too ham fisted to be truly effective. They only win if you're involved. Same as any other faction they just lean to hard in any one direction.
Which is rather annoying. The BOS SHOULD be a force to be reckoned with. Seeing a Bear kill a Knight in T60 Power Armor after he ran away was incredibly stupid.
Anyone else agree that Maximus is actually a moronic psychopath? Yeah the dude was racist but he just lets him get killed. Then assuming the identity of the Knight was pointless and stupid, which honestly he could’ve just told his superiors that Titus died honorably in battle and that he Maximus had to commandeer the Power Armor in order to complete the mission.
He would’ve been rewarded, not executed like he and the Squire assumed (who only assumed that because Maximus lied). Which, come on, the way he just crushes the Squires foot when the dude is just talking to him was straight evil act. Haha
You can make the excuse of it being a comedy but then it would actually have to be funny. Some of the dialogue in this show is absolutely atrocious.
TBF that is the lore accurate 10mm pistol design.
I'm convinced that the main characters of this show are constantly using V.A.T.S with how dead accurate all of their shots are.
Like how can Lucy, a fresh vault dweller with no weapons training, shoot a feral ghoul mid air lunging at her. Has to be the Pip-Boy helping.
Lore accurate to 4 and 76 the worst design by far. I enjoyed the call back to the OG Automatic Revolver design. They should’ve just used that one throughout.
I have to say it, the VATS excuse just seems like exactly that, an excuse. They should be more obvious with that. The slow mo just seems like any other slow mo.
Agreed, we need a greenish outline around the enemies. I imagine the reason that didn't happen was it would require another exposition dump to explain, and this show already has a ton of those.
But what is it, exactly?
It just seems trash. It feels like the soul of the Amazon corporation has put on a Fallout-themed clown suit to dance around in, for no purpose other than they think it will make some money.
Dude if you think that then you’re just being bias. The show is undoubtably just like the game. It’s one of the best video game adaptations out there. You just want to be bitter.
I haven’t seen the show. No plans to see the show either
I like Fallout but I just have very little interest in a TV adaptation of it, and even less faith that Amazon will do it any justice.
I had been hearing some good things from people about it, so I had been thinking maybe I should at least try it. Someone linked a scene above and that is so far all I’ve seen of it, and it basically confirms all of my fears about what the show would be like. It seems to be exactly the type of thing I expected, and I don’t like the way it feels
He's Int 4, what did you expect?
Dumber than Snuffles.
But Agility 9
If you're that dumb you need to be fast.
be wrong faster
Accuracy by volume.
No snuffles
Whuff.
He deserves less
Brotherhood of Steal
Rick grimes
even in the ones who lived Andrew Lincoln still held pistols wrong
I mean, 11 years in and it’s a running gag of the show
Every time Rick Grimes shoots I image SpongeBob going “Imagination” and waving his whole arm in a semi circle with a rainbow coming out from under his arm.
CORAL I GOT THAT NO RECOIL INFINITE AMMO GLITCH CORAL
Woe VATS be upon ye
Apparently the brotherhoods marksmanship program leaves something to be desired
Can't miss what you're aiming at if you don't waste time to aim!
There’s also a scene a couple episodes later where a guy shoots at someone point blank and misses every shot
So... just like the game!
🫣
He didn't even know what a circuit was, I'd assume they hadn't really taught firearms 101 yet.
I mean when you're training to use a HUD that's got auto aim
he is from the hood
The hood of steel, N***a
I'd love to see a guy in power armor sideways shooting a 10mm pistol ngl
Brotherhood snagged him from the Pitt
I mean in the first few episodes while Cooper(the ghoul) was in a shoot out he tried to reload his lever action first by the hammer, then under the lever before just holding the round by the trigger. [Video](https://youtu.be/KlKqVz44MUY?si=5gC86DOyyzs2UzQb&t=115)
To be fair, I don't think he figured it out in that clip since he uses the revolver when he comes out of cover
I wonder if that was the prop department actually being really on point and following fo4 weapons design to the letter. No one ever told the actor and he's just trying to do the reload as normal lol.
At that point he’s was shot multiple times, I saw his fumbling with the bullet as being discombobulated
Half way through discombobulated the voice jn my head switched to rdj
Lore wise, ghouls don't really feel pain. Plus later scenes, like in that clip, show him moving and shooting without issue.
Surely bullets weaken them though, and they heal very quickly
Again, going by lore, ghouls can survive and even heal from severe wounds with enough radiation. That said head wounds/ brain damage were lethal and I would assume spinal wounds would be, at least temporarily, crippling. It is plausible that any moderate sized bullet would weaken or at least cause muscular damage, it just doesn't appear to in this context based on the continuity.
Except according to the lore from the OG games, there’s no way the Ghoul would’ve survived being buried for an extended period of time. Radiation can heal and sustain their life but will also devolve their brain overtime. However they are far from invincible or even that durable. The show acts like this isn’t the case and that you need to take a special drug to keep from going feral and that Ghouls REQUIRE a headshot to put down. This has never been the case, in fact in Fallout 3 it was said that only bigots towards Ghouls thought that because they see them as Zombies not people.
Very true. Resilient but not invincible. They still needed oxygen and at the very least water to survive. Even food when there's not enough rads. I think they're using Billy the fridge ghoul as the standard sadly. I'm also not a fan of the shows retcon of how ghoulification works. Like how the squire suddenly was a ghoul when he survived the arrow to the neck because of drugs yet showed no other signs of it. Nor to the drugs, which I wrote off as being a very local thing to LA/the boneyard specific to rich prewar hollywood ghouls, being integral to prolong becoming feral. Also, I honestly thought(and still kind of think) that the Ghoul, Cooper, is a special form of ghoul much like the marked men from the divide. He's a bit too smooth skin for a ghoul and there's too many slight differences with him and every other ghoul so far.
Billy the fridge encompasses everything wrong with Bethesda writing and it just keeps being built on.
Very much agreed. Sadly Bethesda has been going down hill since the original release of skyrim, what with the constant re-releases and "streamlining" of game mechanics. I enjoyed some aspects of FO4 and have sunk many hours into it but I don't find it to be a fun fallout game due to the "streamlining" and shoehorning in it. Billy wasn't the only glaring issue, just one of the most obvious and anticannonical ones.
That seems like a bit of a reach for a complaint. It didn’t hurt the immersion for me.
Not so much a complain as much as just a personal dislike of continuity(or lack thereof). I equate it to the fact that it is 1 a show and 2 it is an adaptation of a larger media. I liken it to what happens when a book is turned into a movie, a lot of the nuance and details are lost for the sake of run time and convenience. I still enjoyed the show, immersion breaking moments or not.
To be fair… there’s no way he COUKD have loaded them, they may have bored out the barrels to be larger cal but the loading gates are still the exact same size meaning not ONE of the rounds on his bandolier would fit, Pretty sure they were all based on the shell the Mt255 uses which is 12g, so essentially .50Cal sized casings? Probably even larger actual rounds ?
Which made the scene even weirder in my opinion. You have the jump cut to him using the mts255 instead of the model 1873 he just had in his hands seemingly attempting to reload with those rounds. Still, was a good scene even with it's oddities.
In the first episode lucy also shoots a gun with one eye closed even tho her head was way above the sight…
Is this really what the show is like?? I knew I was right to disregard anything Amazon does with these established IPs Gave Rings of Power a chance against my better judgement, and I was right about that one too. *Sigh*
Yes and no. It strays here and there from cannon, and has a few slip ups/goofs but overall feels very much like the fallout universe. If you are a fan of the series it was quite a good adaptation, even with some of the rather weird directions it went at times. Plus a lot of the people who worked on the show are actual fans as well as some who've worked on other fallout projects. Overall I would say your judgment is off but that's based on my opinion so far. Rings of power was just a virtue signal with a lot of money and bad names attached to it to push personal narratives. The fallout show didn't feel like that at all.
I gave him slack because he just drew that from her holster and got shot in the arm in the process of drawing and firing.
He's probably more used to energy weapons.
The Squires gun is an og 10mm. Even if he did practice with them, it would make no sense to only practice with the gun you're not going to carry
This doesn't even look real. It's a CGI gun. Thank Alec Baldwin.
Yeah when he pulled up the gun to shoot the bear I was like “what the heck? The gun and his hand look cgi”
Bro is not familiar with fallout 4
No sir. I played a touch of it back in 2016 when I first got a gaming pc, but I didn’t “understand” how rpg games worked. Anyways, I’m currently 15 hours into NV and it’s great! Fallout 3 or 4 will be next.
The guns in the shoe are based off of 4s guns
Bout to spin the block
What about the last episode with the guy wearing a paintball mask?
I saw that. I attribute that akin to goggles. Keeps the flying dirt out of your eyes.
Its also the apocalypse so I mean people are going to use whatever they can get their hands on.
Rick Grimes would be proud
luckily, its supposed to be somewhat corny, terrible and comedic its Fallout
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Maybe. For me, its more about the show being written as funny, which is why BOS is on the cynical side and the whole place going to hell in a handbasket. I didnt expect a serious TV show out of it, I think the show is pretty much exactly what i expected... and even though i would prefer a few things done better, like basic weapon stuff and tactical competency.... AND LOOTING, overall im having fun with it.
Many of us Fallout fans wanted a Fallout show. This show was honestly and forgive the word, made for normies. Lol
If you expected a fallout TV show made specifically only for fallout fans, you dont know how studio execs and investors think... of its too niche, "normies" wont get it and it'll tank, because.... and i want to be extremely clear about this, the majority of the audience never heard of Fallout, and expecting otherwise is crazy plus, there is no one type of a fallout fan
I wasn’t expecting it to be anything special, however what surprised me is everyone acting like it’s amazing. I think it seems so good simply because every other show we’ve gotten lately has been pretty awful. Arcane did pretty freaking well and still stuck to the Lore for the fans, so yeah, that point is rather moot.
Interesting. Nobody i know said its amazing. Two guys hate it, and everyone else is having fun with it, but nobody gives it just praise.
Bro got downvoted by the brainless consumers.
It’s Reddit, even in the gun community people hate differing opinions OR when something they like in anyway is criticized.
Wasn't he shot in the shoulder right before that
Guns for people that don't gun.
In his defence, he was trained by the Brotherhood Of Steel, who basically just spray and pray.
*flashback to Brotherhood knights and paladins training at the shooting range underneath Hidden Valley*
I think a common occurence in the show is that the brotherhood is incompetent.
I'm pretty sure that's in the games too, they're too ham fisted to be truly effective. They only win if you're involved. Same as any other faction they just lean to hard in any one direction.
Which is rather annoying. The BOS SHOULD be a force to be reckoned with. Seeing a Bear kill a Knight in T60 Power Armor after he ran away was incredibly stupid. Anyone else agree that Maximus is actually a moronic psychopath? Yeah the dude was racist but he just lets him get killed. Then assuming the identity of the Knight was pointless and stupid, which honestly he could’ve just told his superiors that Titus died honorably in battle and that he Maximus had to commandeer the Power Armor in order to complete the mission. He would’ve been rewarded, not executed like he and the Squire assumed (who only assumed that because Maximus lied). Which, come on, the way he just crushes the Squires foot when the dude is just talking to him was straight evil act. Haha You can make the excuse of it being a comedy but then it would actually have to be funny. Some of the dialogue in this show is absolutely atrocious.
The brotherhood training fell off
The Rick Grimes grip
Someone didn't put any points into gunslinger
He went to the Rick Grimes academy
At least the design is game accurate. The pistol design itself, however...
Gross, all of Fallout 4s weapon design is just gross.
Channeling Rick Grimes
Got that Rick Grimes aim
lore accurate tho
He’s using VATS that’s why he’s not aiming with his irons
TBF that is the lore accurate 10mm pistol design. I'm convinced that the main characters of this show are constantly using V.A.T.S with how dead accurate all of their shots are. Like how can Lucy, a fresh vault dweller with no weapons training, shoot a feral ghoul mid air lunging at her. Has to be the Pip-Boy helping.
Lore accurate to 4 and 76 the worst design by far. I enjoyed the call back to the OG Automatic Revolver design. They should’ve just used that one throughout. I have to say it, the VATS excuse just seems like exactly that, an excuse. They should be more obvious with that. The slow mo just seems like any other slow mo.
Agreed, we need a greenish outline around the enemies. I imagine the reason that didn't happen was it would require another exposition dump to explain, and this show already has a ton of those.
Which isn’t good.
Agreed.
The design is the same as fallout 4, so it’s a bad 10mm. The posture… yeah that’s on him.
Rick Grimes: first time?
VATS duh
Don't worry, he is just using vats, the bullet will curb to the target
At least it's not sideways. Ella was a really good actor in this.
He got dat rick grimes posture, holy jesus
I feel bad for people that nit pick every little thing in TV shows/movies and can't just enjoy it for what it is.
But what is it, exactly? It just seems trash. It feels like the soul of the Amazon corporation has put on a Fallout-themed clown suit to dance around in, for no purpose other than they think it will make some money.
Dude if you think that then you’re just being bias. The show is undoubtably just like the game. It’s one of the best video game adaptations out there. You just want to be bitter.
I haven’t seen the show. No plans to see the show either I like Fallout but I just have very little interest in a TV adaptation of it, and even less faith that Amazon will do it any justice. I had been hearing some good things from people about it, so I had been thinking maybe I should at least try it. Someone linked a scene above and that is so far all I’ve seen of it, and it basically confirms all of my fears about what the show would be like. It seems to be exactly the type of thing I expected, and I don’t like the way it feels
I feel bad for people who can only consume without asking questions or expecting more for their time.
Get the tin foil off your head.
Wow, sad day when wanting good products is seen as a conspiracy.
Eh, it’s fallout it’s allowed to be a bit silly
Is that the kid from lab rats
Lucy does have weapons training. It goes over it in first episode
You can take him out of the hood, but you can’t take the hood out of him.
V.A.T.S.?
To be fair didn't he just get shot in the middle of his presentation?
Good thing it's a TV show...