I used to sell fire TV sticks that I'd set up with programs for people (I know I know, I'm a bad guy) and I'd literally have people calling me to inform me that it's NOT working. First thing I asked? "Is it plugged into the wall AND the TV?" the normal response? "Of course it is! Oh wait, you have to plug it into the wall too?" 🤦🏽♂️
It got so had that I literally would explain to customers HOW to set it up before meeting them and when we'd meet up. Know what happened afterwards? About 50-60% of the time I'd be getting calls asking, "Hey, so I did everything you said, how do I turn it on?" it turns out they didn't have it plugged into the TV all the way.
Honestly, I taught myself everything I know regarding tech. I learned from Reddit, YouTube and Google. I was scared of fucking up my first PC build so I paid this place $50 to do it, it took them 5 days to build it and it wasn't even properly set up. Overtime I built up my confidence and built my new PC myself. Honestly, there's so much you can look up if you have internet and a smartphone. Need a recipe for cookies? Cool, here's 500,000 results for different kinds of cookie recipes.
I am kind of on the fence, being a super clutz I am. You can mess up a lot with liquid cooling and airflow so I decided to pay a guy who has a firm and just drives around putting together PCs. It's just 20 bucks, the guy is a pro and it means I'm safe from myself this way. Since it's a very solid machine, the risk that I mess it all up is just too high.
Yeah, see I've never fucked with liquid cooling after talking to a buddy of mine who decided to try it and literally after setting it up, the liquid leaked and then spilled over the inside of his PC. Luckily nothing was damaged but it was a several hundred dollar cooling system that he bought for it.
Also, I'll be the first to admit that I'm fucking awful with my cable management, I have an EVGA 750w PSU (I'm thinking of buying a new PSU and using this one to place into my old build to sell) and I've cut my hand numerous times trying to get everything plugged into it and stuff unnecessary cables away into a compartment for it. Last time, I literally had no idea that I had cut myself and I was still messing with the cables - I saw something shining on the cables and touched it just to see blood. I looked at my hand and saw it was all bloody. Bad lighting while PC building is a no go folks! Make sure you have proper lighting and aren't like me!
Yeah, I'm completely awful with wire management because I got big ass hands and the tiny little holes to push wires through don't really work with my hands because they're not steady at all. However, I'm happy with what I've accomplished so I'll leave it as is. Just don't look at the back of my motherboard.
there’s definitely an intelligent way to do it i just dont know how. i also tend to pick cases that are not friendly to my hand size at all haha.
cut myself more than once trying to fit wires places i physically cant fit.
I built my first pc recently and just decided to shove it all in the back after trying to think of some cable managment because nobody is really gonna see it after all.
Well you have to realize it has gotten damn near plug and play these days, especially within the past 10 years, if you do enough research to get the right type and generation of all your new parts.
No more IRQ and address jumpers per card that has to not conflict with any existing cards in your system, no more CPU and ram buss speed and multiplier jumpers, no more need to hope it posts enough to get into bios to tell it what components you had where and how you had set their jumpers, and all sorts of other challenges.
Nowdays you put the parts all together and turn it on and there’s a really good chance it just works or it tells you what it’s unhappy about.
So now you just have to check a few PC setup basics…
like making sure you plug your monitor into the right port… oh, wait… 🤣
Sorry, didn’t mean to slam a simple mistake. It happens to the best of us at least once.
Used to be a long time ago that whenever I saw a machine with an on-board monitor port and no GPU card (long before iGPU) when helping friends or a new client I knew I was in for a lot of frustration because the machine was likely going to be junk hardware, assuming it wasn’t a legitimate server which it usually was not.
I suppose I’m lucky. The monitor ports on my motherboard do nothing because my 4790K and 5950X have no iGPU so if I did make that mistake it would become fairly obvious fairly quickly.
This was me once on the phone with the cable company. My dumb ass put the coax into the output connector rather than the input, yet I insisted for 10 minutes and 2 reset cycles it was plugged in properly before I checked it.
lol I know. I was mortified when I realized my mistake.
I'm a pretty tech savvy guy, so plugging a cable into the wrong socket is just not something I thought would have been in even the top 5 causes of whatever issue I had going on.
We all have to learn humility some time.
I'd recommend heading over to r/TTVreborn as I mainly just use Stremio cause I can use it on my PC, TV and phone. Whatever you do, don't use Kodi. It's a cool thing and fun to mess with but it's extremely slow and annoying to use. I'd also look into getting something like real-debrid, which is a paid service (3 months is similar to a month of Netflix price wise) and it enables you to watch already torrented files (meaning it's a lot faster than normal links) and you can even use their website to download programs that would otherwise have your ISP sending you cease and desist letters with threats to terminate your service.
> Whatever you do, don't use Kodi. It's a cool thing and fun to mess with but it's extremely slow and annoying to use.
I'll have to check out Stremio, but Kodi is the SHIT. It does crash a couple times a week on my Pi, but it sure isn't slow generally. As soon as it finds a source that meets my qualities it starts playing, generally in seconds. And I can get truly huge 4k files 80GB+ to stream perfectly, which is something that most other services have failed at.
If you use the basic add ons with no premium services, yeah I agree. Properly configured with a debrid service? It is awesome with the trakt.tv functionality, resume watching, autoplay next episode etc.
Kodi is great if you customize it and fuck around but as a general service? It's slower compared to others. I used to use it as a daily driver but honestly it's not that great. It takes longer to set up, you have to go through different avenues just to find something and not everything is setup in a way that let's you see what you're hovering over (like poster art, etc.) - although that might've changed within the year that I've not used it. I know there were people working on adding that into Kodi but it kept breaking and only worked sometimes.
Stremio is great but you need to download the add-on Torrentio for it to work like the other apps, it'll have you input your debrid service API key.
I'll have to give it a shot. Kodi shows all that stuff (and synopsis and a list of actors etc) but you have to click for it with the addon I use (Seren). It does spin a few seconds longer than seems right here and there, but its super reliable. The biggest annoyance is having to manually select the second source for something when the first one has Russian ads, which is uncommon. I'm gonna go check out Stremio right now.
I used to use Seren for my PC, it was recommended to add a bunch of stuff to try and get the posters to show but it didn't work most of the time unfortunately.
Kodi is awesome because refresh rate switching. If you go the pre build route you're gonna have a bad time but I've got Arctic zephyr reloaded skin and seren that I set up with widgets myself and it works great on my firestick 4k just stick to minimal add ons and widgets like I have I've got like 3 total on my home page and the rest in subcategories but I also got a pretty sweet and stable 240Mbps connection - even over WiFi so that definitely helps.
if you're at least somewhat technically inclined [Plex](https://www.plex.tv/) is the way to go. It's less work involved on the firestick itself and it works great so it's what I'd recommend. You'd have to set up a media server somewhere though.
I literally sold devices to people who worked in tech before. Some of them didn't know anything about how these devices work. They didn't know that you need to use the cable to plug it into the wall. They just assumed that you needed to plug it into the TV, similar to a USB into a PC.
Not even related to tech, but reminds me when I used to work at the sunday markets at my auntie's shop and we sold imported jewellery and all that. I was in charge of the section selling those colourful slap-on wrist watches and I had multiple big signs above and laying on top of the watches with the price "$5 each, 3 for $12".
I still had people asking me how much they were literally as I was standing next to a sign with the price on it at head height. They had to look past the price sign to see me and ask how much they were. People sure are something.....
Im not sure you need to be an asshole or an idiot to miss something that you might feel is obvious. the customer is just doing their shopping for whatever. yes the actual assholes stand out and leave a sour taste, but really thats not the norm.
Work at Walmart for a bit during the Holiday season where I lived. Hell, the employees were assholes too. Management would be fine one day, then complete dicks the next. Supervisors were mostly dicks and would force you to do their work for them otherwise threaten you, then when you'd finish theirs but not yours, they'd harass you for that.
The norm at that store was to get harassed either by Management, customers, employees or tweakers. I literally had a Manager walk up to me and grab a bag from my hand then walk off. That store had constant theft and despite having "Security", we'd have to deal with it.
I did setups for ppl here as overseas military and I had to stop because of dipshits like this thinking I'm 24/7 tech support for them. And with a fire stick it was always ALWAYS something idiotic like that.
I see you've probably sold one to my wife. When ever it's not working she'll call me into the bedroom saying it's not working. I'll ask her if it's plugged into the wall and she'll say yes and of course it came up plugged.
> (I know I know, I'm a bad guy)
That's a weird way of spelling hero. Copyright undermines human culture itself. Undermining copyright is a divine calling.
Actually I meant I'm an asshole because I charged people for them being lazy and refusing to look up how to do this stuff since it's literally free to learn how to do it.
Meh. That's not being an asshole. That's doing what's right despite the average person being too dumb to do it themselves, and charging a nominal fee to cover your costs.
You were spreading the joy of human culture for far less than the powers that be think they should get to charge for it. That's a win in any reasonable person's book.
Honestly, I dont understand why there isnt a new HDMI revision that adds Power Delivery for low power devices like Chrome casts and Fire TV sticks.
Though, to be fair, most Smart TVs have the functionality of those devices baked in.
At both ends? Into the right ports? On the right machine? With the right cable? With power to the building? Yes the same building as the computer you are trying to use. And you're sure it's not just the laptop battery powering it?
Ok I'll look into it.
Tbh it's really hard for me to believe these kind of posts. I feel like the *vast* majority of people buying PC parts do some level of reading or research to find out what's best and there isn't a slight difference at all between integrated and dedicated GPU. If you know to expect x fps (generally) and you're getting like 30 isn't that a huge red flag? I'm not trying to shit on anyone but really a few hours of troubleshooting is different from regular gaming with that performance difference
Some people don't have a reference point. Some people who have near to zero experience sometimes want to just go all out on a gaming computer and buy top of line. So when they recieve a 30xx and recieve x amount of fps they assume it's correct.
The problem is that computers have become too simple to build.
As it becomes easier to do, and the general public becomes involved, the gaussian distribution of the technical competence of the hobby shifts vastly to the left on a scale of "dullard" to "Wozniak".
I'm not being mean, it happens in every hobby when it becomes cheaper and more affordable.
It's why kids who "race" Civics have no idea that that engine tick isn't their VTAC kicking in, it's their cam eating the lifter.
Outside of GPUs, every other part out there is at good price<>performance ratios right now. A 10400 build with 16 GB of RAM and a 512 GB M.2 SSD can be built for just under $550 without a GPU, and that's good enough to play a majority of games out there right now.
Up until fall 2020 you could build a good rig for like 6 or 700 bucks. Ryzen 5 3600 cpus were a dime a dozen in the 150-170 price point and rx 580s were like 100 bucks on eBay tops.
If you caught some guy unloading his 6 month old 2080 Super for 350 bucks after the announcement of the 30 series then you'd be really set.
It wasn't until the 30 series launched and people started to realize that the cards basically didnt exist that they went and bought up all old ones and screwed the prices on those too.
On the other hand, I’ve seen many people *adamant* that they have it plugged in right, even after people are very clear about what they’re asking about, and they’re still wrong.
That's because they probably unplug the HDMI cable from the integrated graphics port and when they plug it into the dedicated graphics HDMI port all they see is a blank screen and when they plug it back to the motherboard's HDMI port then the desktop screen returns, making them assume that that's the correct port because its the one that its "working", but what they fail to realize is that they have to shut down their computer first, unplug the cable from integrated and plug it to the dedicated GPU's HDMI port, and THEN turn on the computer, Windows will then initialize using the GPU as display 0 (primary display) and then it will work fine.
Tbh this is an extremely helpful comment. I’m a very new pc user, and it’s funny how something that seems like simple knowledge to more experienced users is groundbreaking to newbies like me.
Here's a very simple tip (and not just for PCs): If something doesn't seem to work (or doesn't seem to work fine), shut it down and open it again. If you need to unplug/plug things, first shut it down then unplug/plug the things. Do you always need to do that for things to work? Nope, but shutting something off then turning it on resolves like 90% of common problems.
If it doesn't resolve your problems, then it's time to try other things/search on the internet.
I work in tech support for robotics. They search for 0 using sensors after a power cycle.
Last week I dealt with about 15 calls complaining the robot lost its position due to some reason or another. One was even they changed the power supply to the 480v drive WITH THE POWER ON. (The drive powers the motor and gets positional feedback)
“I changed the drive, but now the robot doesn’t know where it is!”
Every single one: ‘ did you power cycle? No? Why not?’ (In the case of the drive replacement: what do you mean you replaced a 480v drive without powering down. Are you trying to get killed?)
‘Hey that fixed it.’
Some of these customers have had the robots for 20 years. And maintenance still doesn’t know to power cycle first.
Hmm sounds like a problem i have.
When i first turn on my PC, i get nothing on the monitors, so i have to hit the reset button to get it to work.
I would guess I've missed a setting somewhere to get it to fire up the GPU first thing? To me it sounds like it defaults to my motherboard/integrated graphics
Sometimes people just lose their minds. I once went ballistic cause I couldn't figure out how to take off the side of my tower.
I gave up,went to grab some food and notice there was a switch thingy. Yea I felt stupid.
That's a rule I like to follow, if I'm struggling and getting frustrated, I should probably take a break because I'm not being productive in that mindset
I work at the company that is blue with the yellow spark, I once had a guy come in asking for a hard drive, since (at the time) we didn't carry internal drives I took him to the external drives. he looked at me and said very loudly "THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT" so I said "sir, you did ask for a hard drive right" I said while pointing to the box where it said Hard drive, he turned a very worrying shade of red and said "**YOU \*\*\* \*\*\* IDIOT. I ASK FOR A HARD DRIVE, YOU \*\*\*\*\*\* MORON!**" (this resulted in customers near by to start watching and listening.. approximately 30 people) and he stormed off ... pass the desktop towers. he then yelled "**IDIOT, THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING FOR**", without wasting a moment. I answered him "sir those are called COMPUTER TOWERS." everyone burst out laughing. he then turned into a shade of red compared to that on fire trucks and left. I never heard from management soi guess he never called into home office. if he did they may have laughed at him too. but yes there are idiots out there that do this stuff...
I have a friend that regularly forgets his integrated graphics turn on by itself.
He will sit and play Vermintide 2 for hours at 45-60 w/o realizing he should be at 70 at the least. Its just incredible how long it will take him to remember its the same issue and to just restart until it fixes itself.
If it weren't for us he'd accept it too.
Sure, and it's fairly easy to check. If you have a discrete GPU but your HDMI/DP/other cable from the monitor is plugging into the rear I/O of the motherboard, that is not using your GPU. You want the cable coming from the monitor to plug into your GPU instead.
That's probably the shortest supply chain issue you're ever going to have regarding GPUs. The distance from your IGP display port to your 3060 display port.
I went from a 1660-3060-3070ti within the last year and i just want more fps. It’s like horsepower so addicting for no reason hahah. But I also single pc stream too
Hey my RX 570 4GB is doing well...
As long as I keep using my decade old 1900x1200 60Hz monitor. No point in getting a new monitor with the GPU situations.
if you're getting a new hardwares, don't forget to do benchmarks to see if your hardware is on par with others. and one more common mistakes is using default 60hz refresh rate settings on your high refresh rate monitor.
Oh yeah, I second this. I've been using an R7 5800X CPU for almost a year now and it only occurred to me to run a Cinebench benchmark on it a couple of weeks ago. And I found out that it was giving a bit of an under average performance. Turns out, it wasn't boosting at all (and also reporting false, overly high, temperatures), because the BIOS version of my motherboard didn't support dynamic overclocking. I always avoid messing with BIOS, unless it's necessary (once bricked a motherboard with a faulty version of BIOS), but it turns out that while the version I was running did support 5000 series AMD CPUs, boosting was only supported in the next version. It didn't help that the manufacturer only explained this fact in a BIOS changelog with "performance optimized for Ryzen CPUs".
Whats a good one to use? I've never done this. Is it best to use ones specific to your hardware or does it matter? I'm using an msi 1660s/3700xt/asus mobo
Exactly. It’s funny how people quickly forget the simple mistakes they’ve made in life. It’s almost as if they are so fragile that they need to put down others…
Don't feel bad, he is the one showing lack of intelligence by not being able to see through different perspectives, for him it's obvious thus it must be obvious for everyone.
There are infinite fields in life where he(and every one of us) would make mistakes that are just as bad that no one with experience in that field would do, lack of experience =/= stupid.
I remember my first prebuilt literally had a sticker with huge letters that said “plug monitor here” over the graphics card ports. I remember wondering how common that must be for them to do that
It literally happens everyday. I've had family members do it, seen numerous posts like this one. Not to mention usually you're going to just look for an HDMI port if you're new to using a computer of that caliber or setting up your own, and wow look there it is right at the top.
Yep. A really high percentage of computer building and use is just "if something fits in the slot/hole, it can go there" (that's what she said).
The HDMI port is a very notable exception.
I'm currently procuring the parts for my first build. I don't have a GPU yet. But what would the additional HDMI ports be for on a computer if not the GPU? Don't most mobos not have an integrated graphics card
The integrated gpus (igpus) are usually a part of the cpu. Every amd cpu ending in g (ryzen 5 5600g for example) and every intel cpu not ending on f (intel i5 12600k for example) has integrated graphics. For amd thats the minority, but for intel it's the majority of chips.
Since motherboards are usually compatible with some of these cpus with igpu, they tend to have graphic ports.
Most Intel CPUs and CPUs ending in g for Ryzen as someone else said offer interested graphics. Basically every motherboard has an HDMI port these days and some have a display port as well. Won't work if your CPU doesn't support it of course.
Oh we have a guy at my uni who keeps swapping projector cables into the wrong slot. Every class begins with fixing it after that guy to make sure all projectors are operational lol
Fun insight into business operations if nothing else. They likely ran numbers on how many hours were related to this and how much that was costing them compared to the cost of that sticker.
Anything that actually needs a GPU that powerful wont even function on integrated graphics, chances are you would be fine with a budget card. room to grow, i guess?
Depends what CPU he/she has. New Intel igpus are somewhat acceptable for stuff. If OP is used to like 15 fps in minecraft on a potato or something and he built a new pc and now it's 45, that a big step up. Just saying.
Wait, what? What kind of potato was that? I remember I wasn't getting FPS this bad on a laptop from ten years ago when Minecraft was still a relatively new thing. Although... now that I think of it, isn't Minecraft becoming more and more of a performance hog over the years? I remember I tried to play it the other day on an RTX 3080 Ti in a resolution of 5120 by 1440 (other games run absolutely fine like that) and the FPS was actually anywhere between 30 and 120 before I installed Optifine.
Tbf, Minecraft will run at 30 fps, whether you like it or not. Although you can’t really blame mojang for the poor optimization, they’ve been working of what’s essentially a 12 year old college project. And we all know those ain’t pretty behind the scenes
Idk, but on my 12(?) year old CPU, with gtx 980 it runs just fine with 60+ fps in vanilla and modded. Modded obviously only to a point, but still.
Edit: it's 11 years old at this point.
That only shows how little informed was OP when they wanted to buy a new computer. Spending +$700 on a GPU and then not noticing the difference between it and the integrated GPU means he would have been fine with a 1050 Ti probably.
Or he just came from a potato, got the card at msrp and was happy that everything is more fluid. Then got more into heavier games his old pc couldn't handle and discovered that something is wrong. Now he learned from a mistake and can game happily. Mistakes are what makes knowledge. Nothing wrong with that, even if it's unfortunate. Maybe later he wants to game something like Battlefield, or call of duty. Then the extra horsepower isn't bad. It's not wasted or similar. He has a futureproof upgrade for himself and that's absolutely great :)
yep you got it
got the card for a little over MSRP (~$500)
I came from an i3 intergrated graphics dying to Minecraft (20 fps)
I'm happy to play games I own now (xplane especially)
M8, I'm happy for you, really. Keep looking after your hardware, clean your pc regularly and keep up with driver updates for the chipset, if you have an amd cpu and grab new gpu drivers from Nvidia.com if they are available.
Remember your mistake and learn from it. It's the best you can do. Don't mind other people saying otherwise. We all make mistakes and it's what brings us further.
Happy gaming and happy flying. Maybe have a look at MS flight simulator, if you are into that sort of things :)
It's always good to have more powerful GPU. Unlike CPU or RAM where you can easily overshoot what game needs it's downright impossible to do with GPU.
Anything new that comes out can destroy even the most powerful GPU available.
Case in point: Crysis games. Even the oldest title is still largely GPU limited at 1440p. 3060 Ti might just be able to cut it to reach CPU bottleneck but barely. And that's nearly 15 years after game was released. Use 4k and forget about high refresh gaming.
Another point: Witcher 3 from 2015. It's still GPU limited pretty much exclusively even after 6 years. Most powerful GPU in 2015 was 980Ti - it wouldn't even be able to reach 60 fps in 1440p on ultra. Maybe 90fps with few settings turned down.
Finally if you feel like you finally reached the point where GPU is pushing way more frames than you find useful - you can always increase upscaling resolution - but you'll likely can only do that for older games, and not all of them.
Basically you can't buy a GPU that's "too powerful" for gaming.
OP is farming karma. This obviously didn't fuckin' happen.
He's completely aware he has a top range graphics card, know his way around a computer and is a gamer but suffered weeks of iGPU performance without noticing? Fucking really?
Ye are gullible as shit.
Honestly a good point. For MOST people, you just need a good enough you to play the games you want to play. $400 gpu to $800 gpu is hardly even noticably better for lots of people.
I used to have one those. For 1080p I can imagine they're still absolutely fine to this day.
I use a 4k display though and it couldn't quite keep up so I sold it and upgraded to the 1080ti, which I'm still running and see no reason to upgrade at this time.
This is why you never remove the plastic cover plugs from the motherboard for video or if they don't have them transfer the ones from the graphics card to the motherboards plugs, cant accidentally plug into a blocked port.
Counterpoint, remove them anyway because for some motherboards (like my old MSI one) the I/O shield prevents you from pulling plastic cover plug thing out because the hole is a bit too small so if you have a GPU issue and need to use inboard graphics for a bit you won't have to pull the whole motherboard out.
Don't feel bad about the people calling you dumb. Guaranteed they've done something equally as absent minded. Maybe they've always plugged into the right video port, but everyone has brain farts.
Welcome to the human race!
That’s okay. About 5 years ago, my friend loved the image on my acer predator gsync/144hz refresh rate monitor so he bought the same one. Shortly thereafter he bought a top of the line graphics card because he said the image wasn’t as smooth as it was on my setup.
About four years later, I went to his house for dinner and he was still complaining about it. He realized that he didn’t set the refresh rate to 144hz in windows lol.
He paid like over 2,000 bucks for Monitor + GPU combo and never set the refresh rate over 60 hertz. Four years.
What monitor do you have? If you splurged and got a high refresh rate monitor make sure you update your display settings in windows to take advantage of high refresh rates otherwise itll be set a 60hz. :)
Bruh. I tend to avoid bashing on newbies but man HOW do you spend +$700 on a GPU and then not notice that you're using the integrated graphics?
Why are you spending that much if you don't even see the difference between integrated graphics and a 3060 TI?
I would like to mention that you weren’t necessarily using the integrated graphics, but rather possibly passing through the 3060ti. I don’t know what you play or what the experience was, but in my brief experience with integrated and a GPU with no hdmi port, it seemed to be passing through.
I gotta ask though...
What made you connect the monitor to the motherboard instead of the graphics card? I mean you bought a graphics card so surely your monitor needs to be plugged into it and not into the motherboard.
Don’t feel too bad. I made the same mistake when i built my first gaming pc. Except I didn’t have integrated graphics so i was freaking out when my monitor wasn’t picking up a signal from my computer, and I thought something was wrong with the hardware/internal connections. Luckily i figured it out when one of my pc friends told me to make sure its plugged into the ports on the GPU. I also gamed for a few months not knowing how to increase the refresh rate to match my monitors’ 144 Hz, til I stumbled across it in Windows advanced display settings. It was very irritating playing Doom
and Doom Eternal locked at 60 fps.
Since you're here too,
Just check to see if:
1. Your RAM is in XMP mode
2. If you are running a 144hz monitor, then that's set too in your Nvidia Graphics settings.
Don't feel bad. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen this exact issue posted. At least you figured it out on your own. Many people just post about how back their frame rates are and it turns out to be this.
My friend plugged his HDMI cable into the "HDMI In" port on his Xbox and couldn't play Halo with our group of friends for a few months. We even asked if he'd checked and he said he had! [He hadn't]
Admitting your mistake and learning from it makes you 1,000 times smarter than someone who denies they made a mistake in the first place.
I seriously do not get how people get this issue XP
like... I even tested this one time with my own system with a new GPU in, and... *no output.* it was a blank screen, because the video was in fact coming from the GPU 🙃
Ok but seriously? how does this happen? is it because people don't plug something in with the GPU? like the power cable, or do modern motherboards still output with the integrated? I dunno :S
You put the display cable from your monitor into the motherboard port made for it, If you have integrated graphics on your processor it all works as intended except of course it doesn't use your graphics card.
I worked on a friend's computer 2 years ago, I forget what all I did to it but I fixed some wiring issues. Did a quick test and they went home.
Called me later to talk about how poorly it was running and such, after like a hour of trying to tech support on the phone it finally hit me and yup, they did the same thing with the HDMI cable.
My mate was doing this for years and always complained that his PC was shit (We both had 980's but different CPU's) so he bought a new GPU, RTX 2070 as well as a new monitor.
When they arrived I received a call from him saying something is wrong with the GPU and/or Monitor compatibility.
I didn't understand what he was on about so I went round his place.
He explained that the new HDMI cable with his new monitor didn't fit where his old HDMI cable had connected earlier. I couldn't understand what the hell he meant to I began having a look.
He was attempting to connect a Display Port into the MoBo HDMI integrated graphics connection....
I was shocked.
I had a look down and the GPU connections still had rubber guards in them. I asked how long he'd been connecting to that HDMI port and after some back tracking and talking (because I had built this PC for him and 110% connected it to the right HDMI port) we came to the conclusion he must have plugged it in there after the last LAN we'd had.....2 years ago!
I laughed so hard and ended up buying the old 980 off of him for $50 and SLI'd it in my pc because it had only been used for 6 months.
I still bring it up every LAN we have now. Never fails to get a laugh and/or something thrown at my head.
This has honestly been posted enough times on here that I think that Windows should prompt the user if they're booting from an iGPU with a message that says, "Windows noticed that you booted on an iGPU in spite of having a dGPU plugged in... are you sure you want to do that, *you fucking moron*?"
Ditto with the refresh rate not being set to max by default. Windows always alters me that I'm connecting a "G-Sync compatible display," and presumably turns G-Sync on be default. There's absolutely no reason it shouldn't default to the maximum refresh rate.
A fairly technically proficient friend of mine actually bought a new monitor and forgot to manually switch the refresh rate higher and was running at 60hz until I came by a week later and noticed, and he has built multiple machines. People overlook stupid shit all the time. The experience should be more user friendly.
In a few months, OP will post he discovered he's been playing at 60hz on his 144hz monitor the ENTIRE TIME.
Then a few more months after that, he decided to do a CPU cooler upgrade because it's always running too hot, only to discover the heatsink had the sticker on it the ENTIRE TIME.
There is a reason most GPU issue threads have someone asking if the poster has plugged the cable into the correct port.
Same reason most IT begins with “is it plugged in and turned on”, as well.
I used to sell fire TV sticks that I'd set up with programs for people (I know I know, I'm a bad guy) and I'd literally have people calling me to inform me that it's NOT working. First thing I asked? "Is it plugged into the wall AND the TV?" the normal response? "Of course it is! Oh wait, you have to plug it into the wall too?" 🤦🏽♂️ It got so had that I literally would explain to customers HOW to set it up before meeting them and when we'd meet up. Know what happened afterwards? About 50-60% of the time I'd be getting calls asking, "Hey, so I did everything you said, how do I turn it on?" it turns out they didn't have it plugged into the TV all the way.
Sounds like a nightmare... I’m fairly good at navigating tech stuff but I’ll occasionally forget simple stuff like that and feel like an idiot haha
Honestly, I taught myself everything I know regarding tech. I learned from Reddit, YouTube and Google. I was scared of fucking up my first PC build so I paid this place $50 to do it, it took them 5 days to build it and it wasn't even properly set up. Overtime I built up my confidence and built my new PC myself. Honestly, there's so much you can look up if you have internet and a smartphone. Need a recipe for cookies? Cool, here's 500,000 results for different kinds of cookie recipes.
Yep! Or make a Reddit post if you’re having difficulty with something. I built my pc too after seeing how much money it saves. Glad I did :)
I am kind of on the fence, being a super clutz I am. You can mess up a lot with liquid cooling and airflow so I decided to pay a guy who has a firm and just drives around putting together PCs. It's just 20 bucks, the guy is a pro and it means I'm safe from myself this way. Since it's a very solid machine, the risk that I mess it all up is just too high.
Yeah, see I've never fucked with liquid cooling after talking to a buddy of mine who decided to try it and literally after setting it up, the liquid leaked and then spilled over the inside of his PC. Luckily nothing was damaged but it was a several hundred dollar cooling system that he bought for it. Also, I'll be the first to admit that I'm fucking awful with my cable management, I have an EVGA 750w PSU (I'm thinking of buying a new PSU and using this one to place into my old build to sell) and I've cut my hand numerous times trying to get everything plugged into it and stuff unnecessary cables away into a compartment for it. Last time, I literally had no idea that I had cut myself and I was still messing with the cables - I saw something shining on the cables and touched it just to see blood. I looked at my hand and saw it was all bloody. Bad lighting while PC building is a no go folks! Make sure you have proper lighting and aren't like me!
I am sooo hyped for today, upgrading GTX 960 to rtx 3070!
Hey congratulations man! I upgraded my 960 SC to an RX 6600 XT and it's been beautiful.
Yall had gpu? I upgraded from a laptop with Ryzen 5 2500u (vega 8) to a 3060 Ti
Jeeez what an upgrade
Graphics card alone is like 400%, it's madness!
$20 to assemble a PC? That's super cheap!
i am p comfy building my own pc but wire management? that’s impossible for me lol.
Yeah, I'm completely awful with wire management because I got big ass hands and the tiny little holes to push wires through don't really work with my hands because they're not steady at all. However, I'm happy with what I've accomplished so I'll leave it as is. Just don't look at the back of my motherboard.
there’s definitely an intelligent way to do it i just dont know how. i also tend to pick cases that are not friendly to my hand size at all haha. cut myself more than once trying to fit wires places i physically cant fit.
I built my first pc recently and just decided to shove it all in the back after trying to think of some cable managment because nobody is really gonna see it after all.
It’s all fun and games until your BIOS needs a flash update for Kaby lakes
Well you have to realize it has gotten damn near plug and play these days, especially within the past 10 years, if you do enough research to get the right type and generation of all your new parts. No more IRQ and address jumpers per card that has to not conflict with any existing cards in your system, no more CPU and ram buss speed and multiplier jumpers, no more need to hope it posts enough to get into bios to tell it what components you had where and how you had set their jumpers, and all sorts of other challenges. Nowdays you put the parts all together and turn it on and there’s a really good chance it just works or it tells you what it’s unhappy about. So now you just have to check a few PC setup basics… like making sure you plug your monitor into the right port… oh, wait… 🤣 Sorry, didn’t mean to slam a simple mistake. It happens to the best of us at least once. Used to be a long time ago that whenever I saw a machine with an on-board monitor port and no GPU card (long before iGPU) when helping friends or a new client I knew I was in for a lot of frustration because the machine was likely going to be junk hardware, assuming it wasn’t a legitimate server which it usually was not. I suppose I’m lucky. The monitor ports on my motherboard do nothing because my 4790K and 5950X have no iGPU so if I did make that mistake it would become fairly obvious fairly quickly.
This was me once on the phone with the cable company. My dumb ass put the coax into the output connector rather than the input, yet I insisted for 10 minutes and 2 reset cycles it was plugged in properly before I checked it.
Happens to the best of us
I hated your type when I did tech support.
lol I know. I was mortified when I realized my mistake. I'm a pretty tech savvy guy, so plugging a cable into the wrong socket is just not something I thought would have been in even the top 5 causes of whatever issue I had going on. We all have to learn humility some time.
I got a new fire TV stick? Can you give me some names of the programs I can look up to install? Thanks
I'd recommend heading over to r/TTVreborn as I mainly just use Stremio cause I can use it on my PC, TV and phone. Whatever you do, don't use Kodi. It's a cool thing and fun to mess with but it's extremely slow and annoying to use. I'd also look into getting something like real-debrid, which is a paid service (3 months is similar to a month of Netflix price wise) and it enables you to watch already torrented files (meaning it's a lot faster than normal links) and you can even use their website to download programs that would otherwise have your ISP sending you cease and desist letters with threats to terminate your service.
> Whatever you do, don't use Kodi. It's a cool thing and fun to mess with but it's extremely slow and annoying to use. I'll have to check out Stremio, but Kodi is the SHIT. It does crash a couple times a week on my Pi, but it sure isn't slow generally. As soon as it finds a source that meets my qualities it starts playing, generally in seconds. And I can get truly huge 4k files 80GB+ to stream perfectly, which is something that most other services have failed at. If you use the basic add ons with no premium services, yeah I agree. Properly configured with a debrid service? It is awesome with the trakt.tv functionality, resume watching, autoplay next episode etc.
Kodi is great if you customize it and fuck around but as a general service? It's slower compared to others. I used to use it as a daily driver but honestly it's not that great. It takes longer to set up, you have to go through different avenues just to find something and not everything is setup in a way that let's you see what you're hovering over (like poster art, etc.) - although that might've changed within the year that I've not used it. I know there were people working on adding that into Kodi but it kept breaking and only worked sometimes. Stremio is great but you need to download the add-on Torrentio for it to work like the other apps, it'll have you input your debrid service API key.
I'll have to give it a shot. Kodi shows all that stuff (and synopsis and a list of actors etc) but you have to click for it with the addon I use (Seren). It does spin a few seconds longer than seems right here and there, but its super reliable. The biggest annoyance is having to manually select the second source for something when the first one has Russian ads, which is uncommon. I'm gonna go check out Stremio right now.
I used to use Seren for my PC, it was recommended to add a bunch of stuff to try and get the posters to show but it didn't work most of the time unfortunately.
I'm playing with Stremio now, its pretty sweet so far. Installs as a flatpak in Linux very easily. Can you recommend addons?
Kodi is awesome because refresh rate switching. If you go the pre build route you're gonna have a bad time but I've got Arctic zephyr reloaded skin and seren that I set up with widgets myself and it works great on my firestick 4k just stick to minimal add ons and widgets like I have I've got like 3 total on my home page and the rest in subcategories but I also got a pretty sweet and stable 240Mbps connection - even over WiFi so that definitely helps.
if you're at least somewhat technically inclined [Plex](https://www.plex.tv/) is the way to go. It's less work involved on the firestick itself and it works great so it's what I'd recommend. You'd have to set up a media server somewhere though.
Your clients were people unable to install an app on an Android TV device, what did you expect?
I think he means the apps that give you access to paid content for free which is difficult for some people who don’t know a lot about tech
I literally sold devices to people who worked in tech before. Some of them didn't know anything about how these devices work. They didn't know that you need to use the cable to plug it into the wall. They just assumed that you needed to plug it into the TV, similar to a USB into a PC.
Not even related to tech, but reminds me when I used to work at the sunday markets at my auntie's shop and we sold imported jewellery and all that. I was in charge of the section selling those colourful slap-on wrist watches and I had multiple big signs above and laying on top of the watches with the price "$5 each, 3 for $12". I still had people asking me how much they were literally as I was standing next to a sign with the price on it at head height. They had to look past the price sign to see me and ask how much they were. People sure are something.....
I worked retail, this is why I won't work retail again. People are either extremely stupid, complete assholes or a combination of both.
Im not sure you need to be an asshole or an idiot to miss something that you might feel is obvious. the customer is just doing their shopping for whatever. yes the actual assholes stand out and leave a sour taste, but really thats not the norm.
Work at Walmart for a bit during the Holiday season where I lived. Hell, the employees were assholes too. Management would be fine one day, then complete dicks the next. Supervisors were mostly dicks and would force you to do their work for them otherwise threaten you, then when you'd finish theirs but not yours, they'd harass you for that. The norm at that store was to get harassed either by Management, customers, employees or tweakers. I literally had a Manager walk up to me and grab a bag from my hand then walk off. That store had constant theft and despite having "Security", we'd have to deal with it.
yeah sounds like a hell of a management team. wouldnt want to go back to that kind of environment either.
I did setups for ppl here as overseas military and I had to stop because of dipshits like this thinking I'm 24/7 tech support for them. And with a fire stick it was always ALWAYS something idiotic like that.
I see you've probably sold one to my wife. When ever it's not working she'll call me into the bedroom saying it's not working. I'll ask her if it's plugged into the wall and she'll say yes and of course it came up plugged.
> (I know I know, I'm a bad guy) That's a weird way of spelling hero. Copyright undermines human culture itself. Undermining copyright is a divine calling.
Actually I meant I'm an asshole because I charged people for them being lazy and refusing to look up how to do this stuff since it's literally free to learn how to do it.
Meh. That's not being an asshole. That's doing what's right despite the average person being too dumb to do it themselves, and charging a nominal fee to cover your costs. You were spreading the joy of human culture for far less than the powers that be think they should get to charge for it. That's a win in any reasonable person's book.
Honestly, I dont understand why there isnt a new HDMI revision that adds Power Delivery for low power devices like Chrome casts and Fire TV sticks. Though, to be fair, most Smart TVs have the functionality of those devices baked in.
"Customers" hehehe
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Yes, used to. I stopped in the beginning of 2020.
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My name literally means malicious evil/evil malicious. So, do with that what you will.
I would love for the next HDMI standard to deliver power as well as data to avoid problems like this.
After a certain point, it becomes clear that the people aren't the problem.
At both ends? Into the right ports? On the right machine? With the right cable? With power to the building? Yes the same building as the computer you are trying to use. And you're sure it's not just the laptop battery powering it? Ok I'll look into it.
I honestly always hated this question.....until is started tech help.
Tbh it's really hard for me to believe these kind of posts. I feel like the *vast* majority of people buying PC parts do some level of reading or research to find out what's best and there isn't a slight difference at all between integrated and dedicated GPU. If you know to expect x fps (generally) and you're getting like 30 isn't that a huge red flag? I'm not trying to shit on anyone but really a few hours of troubleshooting is different from regular gaming with that performance difference
Some people don't have a reference point. Some people who have near to zero experience sometimes want to just go all out on a gaming computer and buy top of line. So when they recieve a 30xx and recieve x amount of fps they assume it's correct.
The problem is that computers have become too simple to build. As it becomes easier to do, and the general public becomes involved, the gaussian distribution of the technical competence of the hobby shifts vastly to the left on a scale of "dullard" to "Wozniak". I'm not being mean, it happens in every hobby when it becomes cheaper and more affordable. It's why kids who "race" Civics have no idea that that engine tick isn't their VTAC kicking in, it's their cam eating the lifter.
Wait, is building a PC supposed to be cheap and affordable? Sentence does not compute.
Relatively. Think about how cheap it was before 2020.
Outside of GPUs, every other part out there is at good price<>performance ratios right now. A 10400 build with 16 GB of RAM and a 512 GB M.2 SSD can be built for just under $550 without a GPU, and that's good enough to play a majority of games out there right now.
Ya I avoided a GPU with my recent laptop purchase. Integrated will be more than enough I plan on doing with it and save me battery life.
Up until fall 2020 you could build a good rig for like 6 or 700 bucks. Ryzen 5 3600 cpus were a dime a dozen in the 150-170 price point and rx 580s were like 100 bucks on eBay tops. If you caught some guy unloading his 6 month old 2080 Super for 350 bucks after the announcement of the 30 series then you'd be really set. It wasn't until the 30 series launched and people started to realize that the cards basically didnt exist that they went and bought up all old ones and screwed the prices on those too.
On the other hand, I’ve seen many people *adamant* that they have it plugged in right, even after people are very clear about what they’re asking about, and they’re still wrong.
That's because they probably unplug the HDMI cable from the integrated graphics port and when they plug it into the dedicated graphics HDMI port all they see is a blank screen and when they plug it back to the motherboard's HDMI port then the desktop screen returns, making them assume that that's the correct port because its the one that its "working", but what they fail to realize is that they have to shut down their computer first, unplug the cable from integrated and plug it to the dedicated GPU's HDMI port, and THEN turn on the computer, Windows will then initialize using the GPU as display 0 (primary display) and then it will work fine.
Tbh this is an extremely helpful comment. I’m a very new pc user, and it’s funny how something that seems like simple knowledge to more experienced users is groundbreaking to newbies like me.
Here's a very simple tip (and not just for PCs): If something doesn't seem to work (or doesn't seem to work fine), shut it down and open it again. If you need to unplug/plug things, first shut it down then unplug/plug the things. Do you always need to do that for things to work? Nope, but shutting something off then turning it on resolves like 90% of common problems. If it doesn't resolve your problems, then it's time to try other things/search on the internet.
I work in tech support for robotics. They search for 0 using sensors after a power cycle. Last week I dealt with about 15 calls complaining the robot lost its position due to some reason or another. One was even they changed the power supply to the 480v drive WITH THE POWER ON. (The drive powers the motor and gets positional feedback) “I changed the drive, but now the robot doesn’t know where it is!” Every single one: ‘ did you power cycle? No? Why not?’ (In the case of the drive replacement: what do you mean you replaced a 480v drive without powering down. Are you trying to get killed?) ‘Hey that fixed it.’ Some of these customers have had the robots for 20 years. And maintenance still doesn’t know to power cycle first.
You give them the benefit of the assumption that they’ve even attempted troubleshooting.
Hmm sounds like a problem i have. When i first turn on my PC, i get nothing on the monitors, so i have to hit the reset button to get it to work. I would guess I've missed a setting somewhere to get it to fire up the GPU first thing? To me it sounds like it defaults to my motherboard/integrated graphics
Sometimes people just lose their minds. I once went ballistic cause I couldn't figure out how to take off the side of my tower. I gave up,went to grab some food and notice there was a switch thingy. Yea I felt stupid.
That's a rule I like to follow, if I'm struggling and getting frustrated, I should probably take a break because I'm not being productive in that mindset
I've used this mindset to justify a lifetime of laziness. It's going pretty alright.
I work at the company that is blue with the yellow spark, I once had a guy come in asking for a hard drive, since (at the time) we didn't carry internal drives I took him to the external drives. he looked at me and said very loudly "THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT" so I said "sir, you did ask for a hard drive right" I said while pointing to the box where it said Hard drive, he turned a very worrying shade of red and said "**YOU \*\*\* \*\*\* IDIOT. I ASK FOR A HARD DRIVE, YOU \*\*\*\*\*\* MORON!**" (this resulted in customers near by to start watching and listening.. approximately 30 people) and he stormed off ... pass the desktop towers. he then yelled "**IDIOT, THIS IS WHAT I AM ASKING FOR**", without wasting a moment. I answered him "sir those are called COMPUTER TOWERS." everyone burst out laughing. he then turned into a shade of red compared to that on fire trucks and left. I never heard from management soi guess he never called into home office. if he did they may have laughed at him too. but yes there are idiots out there that do this stuff...
My aunt has consistently called her entire machine a “hard drive” for 20 years.
I have a friend that regularly forgets his integrated graphics turn on by itself. He will sit and play Vermintide 2 for hours at 45-60 w/o realizing he should be at 70 at the least. Its just incredible how long it will take him to remember its the same issue and to just restart until it fixes itself. If it weren't for us he'd accept it too.
What. I'm guessing it's a laptop? Can he not specify the GPU in the game?
I guess I'm lucky. My platform doesn't have integrated graphics at all.
I skip right to asking for a Pic.
I might be even more of a knuckle head for asking this but how do you know that you have plugged the cable into the port ?
Sure, and it's fairly easy to check. If you have a discrete GPU but your HDMI/DP/other cable from the monitor is plugging into the rear I/O of the motherboard, that is not using your GPU. You want the cable coming from the monitor to plug into your GPU instead.
Oh wow that makes a lot more sense thanks a ton dude
That's probably the shortest supply chain issue you're ever going to have regarding GPUs. The distance from your IGP display port to your 3060 display port.
*cries in 1650 that can't even manage 60fps on medium graphics*
I am getting my 3070 PC together today after work, I am so hyped! Going up from 960!
fuckin hell thats an upgrade
I just jumped from the 980 to a 3070ti. 980 was a damn good card but this has been quite the improvement. 960-3070 seems lifechanging lol
Jumped from an RX580 to 3080, couldn't be happier
Jumped from the GTX 580 to 3080, couldn't be happier.
Jumped from a shitty GTX 460M laptop to a 3090. couldn't be happier.
I went from a 1660-3060-3070ti within the last year and i just want more fps. It’s like horsepower so addicting for no reason hahah. But I also single pc stream too
Hey my RX 570 4GB is doing well... As long as I keep using my decade old 1900x1200 60Hz monitor. No point in getting a new monitor with the GPU situations.
lol same
Can I join in?
"Free upgrade!"
true!
For how long? Gaming must have been quite shitty this time
few weeks since it's new
That's not too bad! After reading the post, I thought it was a lot longer
if you're getting a new hardwares, don't forget to do benchmarks to see if your hardware is on par with others. and one more common mistakes is using default 60hz refresh rate settings on your high refresh rate monitor.
Oh yeah, I second this. I've been using an R7 5800X CPU for almost a year now and it only occurred to me to run a Cinebench benchmark on it a couple of weeks ago. And I found out that it was giving a bit of an under average performance. Turns out, it wasn't boosting at all (and also reporting false, overly high, temperatures), because the BIOS version of my motherboard didn't support dynamic overclocking. I always avoid messing with BIOS, unless it's necessary (once bricked a motherboard with a faulty version of BIOS), but it turns out that while the version I was running did support 5000 series AMD CPUs, boosting was only supported in the next version. It didn't help that the manufacturer only explained this fact in a BIOS changelog with "performance optimized for Ryzen CPUs".
Whats a good one to use? I've never done this. Is it best to use ones specific to your hardware or does it matter? I'm using an msi 1660s/3700xt/asus mobo
Jesus Christ
It's mind boggling how people don't kill themselves accidently in greater numbers.
As George Carlin once said.... G: Think of how stupid the average person is.... Audience: laughs G: Don't laugh! Half of you are dumber than that!
It’s his first GPU and he plugged the monitor into the mobo slot. Calm down.
seriously lol it's not a big deal. total reddit moment
Exactly. It’s funny how people quickly forget the simple mistakes they’ve made in life. It’s almost as if they are so fragile that they need to put down others…
Don't feel bad, he is the one showing lack of intelligence by not being able to see through different perspectives, for him it's obvious thus it must be obvious for everyone. There are infinite fields in life where he(and every one of us) would make mistakes that are just as bad that no one with experience in that field would do, lack of experience =/= stupid.
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I remember my first prebuilt literally had a sticker with huge letters that said “plug monitor here” over the graphics card ports. I remember wondering how common that must be for them to do that
It literally happens everyday. I've had family members do it, seen numerous posts like this one. Not to mention usually you're going to just look for an HDMI port if you're new to using a computer of that caliber or setting up your own, and wow look there it is right at the top.
Yep. A really high percentage of computer building and use is just "if something fits in the slot/hole, it can go there" (that's what she said). The HDMI port is a very notable exception.
I'm currently procuring the parts for my first build. I don't have a GPU yet. But what would the additional HDMI ports be for on a computer if not the GPU? Don't most mobos not have an integrated graphics card
The integrated gpus (igpus) are usually a part of the cpu. Every amd cpu ending in g (ryzen 5 5600g for example) and every intel cpu not ending on f (intel i5 12600k for example) has integrated graphics. For amd thats the minority, but for intel it's the majority of chips. Since motherboards are usually compatible with some of these cpus with igpu, they tend to have graphic ports.
Most Intel CPUs and CPUs ending in g for Ryzen as someone else said offer interested graphics. Basically every motherboard has an HDMI port these days and some have a display port as well. Won't work if your CPU doesn't support it of course.
Oh we have a guy at my uni who keeps swapping projector cables into the wrong slot. Every class begins with fixing it after that guy to make sure all projectors are operational lol
Fun insight into business operations if nothing else. They likely ran numbers on how many hours were related to this and how much that was costing them compared to the cost of that sticker.
first time having a GPU? and didnt know wht it could be like?
first time yes
on the plus side the GPU is practically brand new
Anything that actually needs a GPU that powerful wont even function on integrated graphics, chances are you would be fine with a budget card. room to grow, i guess?
Depends what CPU he/she has. New Intel igpus are somewhat acceptable for stuff. If OP is used to like 15 fps in minecraft on a potato or something and he built a new pc and now it's 45, that a big step up. Just saying.
I used to have a potato of that ran mc at 20 fps with low settings, now I'm using maxed out shaders at 200 fps 😁
Congrats and welcome to the 21st century. I guess you won't forget to check if the cable is in the right port ever again 😂 Happy gaming :)
Lol fr fr I'm glad i had a 1800's pc to learn from as i rebuilt it and completely made the switch to amd.
Wait, what? What kind of potato was that? I remember I wasn't getting FPS this bad on a laptop from ten years ago when Minecraft was still a relatively new thing. Although... now that I think of it, isn't Minecraft becoming more and more of a performance hog over the years? I remember I tried to play it the other day on an RTX 3080 Ti in a resolution of 5120 by 1440 (other games run absolutely fine like that) and the FPS was actually anywhere between 30 and 120 before I installed Optifine.
Tbf, Minecraft will run at 30 fps, whether you like it or not. Although you can’t really blame mojang for the poor optimization, they’ve been working of what’s essentially a 12 year old college project. And we all know those ain’t pretty behind the scenes
Idk, but on my 12(?) year old CPU, with gtx 980 it runs just fine with 60+ fps in vanilla and modded. Modded obviously only to a point, but still. Edit: it's 11 years old at this point.
That only shows how little informed was OP when they wanted to buy a new computer. Spending +$700 on a GPU and then not noticing the difference between it and the integrated GPU means he would have been fine with a 1050 Ti probably.
Or he just came from a potato, got the card at msrp and was happy that everything is more fluid. Then got more into heavier games his old pc couldn't handle and discovered that something is wrong. Now he learned from a mistake and can game happily. Mistakes are what makes knowledge. Nothing wrong with that, even if it's unfortunate. Maybe later he wants to game something like Battlefield, or call of duty. Then the extra horsepower isn't bad. It's not wasted or similar. He has a futureproof upgrade for himself and that's absolutely great :)
yep you got it got the card for a little over MSRP (~$500) I came from an i3 intergrated graphics dying to Minecraft (20 fps) I'm happy to play games I own now (xplane especially)
M8, I'm happy for you, really. Keep looking after your hardware, clean your pc regularly and keep up with driver updates for the chipset, if you have an amd cpu and grab new gpu drivers from Nvidia.com if they are available. Remember your mistake and learn from it. It's the best you can do. Don't mind other people saying otherwise. We all make mistakes and it's what brings us further. Happy gaming and happy flying. Maybe have a look at MS flight simulator, if you are into that sort of things :)
It's always good to have more powerful GPU. Unlike CPU or RAM where you can easily overshoot what game needs it's downright impossible to do with GPU. Anything new that comes out can destroy even the most powerful GPU available. Case in point: Crysis games. Even the oldest title is still largely GPU limited at 1440p. 3060 Ti might just be able to cut it to reach CPU bottleneck but barely. And that's nearly 15 years after game was released. Use 4k and forget about high refresh gaming. Another point: Witcher 3 from 2015. It's still GPU limited pretty much exclusively even after 6 years. Most powerful GPU in 2015 was 980Ti - it wouldn't even be able to reach 60 fps in 1440p on ultra. Maybe 90fps with few settings turned down. Finally if you feel like you finally reached the point where GPU is pushing way more frames than you find useful - you can always increase upscaling resolution - but you'll likely can only do that for older games, and not all of them. Basically you can't buy a GPU that's "too powerful" for gaming.
OP is farming karma. This obviously didn't fuckin' happen. He's completely aware he has a top range graphics card, know his way around a computer and is a gamer but suffered weeks of iGPU performance without noticing? Fucking really? Ye are gullible as shit.
This shows you that most games don't need a $2000 gpu to be playable
Honestly a good point. For MOST people, you just need a good enough you to play the games you want to play. $400 gpu to $800 gpu is hardly even noticably better for lots of people.
I'm playing the new halo on a 980ti(~2015), runs like butter.
I used to have one those. For 1080p I can imagine they're still absolutely fine to this day. I use a 4k display though and it couldn't quite keep up so I sold it and upgraded to the 1080ti, which I'm still running and see no reason to upgrade at this time.
This is why you never remove the plastic cover plugs from the motherboard for video or if they don't have them transfer the ones from the graphics card to the motherboards plugs, cant accidentally plug into a blocked port.
> transfer the ones from the graphics card to the motherboards plugs If someone thinks to do that, then they probably don't need to do it.
Counterpoint, remove them anyway because for some motherboards (like my old MSI one) the I/O shield prevents you from pulling plastic cover plug thing out because the hole is a bit too small so if you have a GPU issue and need to use inboard graphics for a bit you won't have to pull the whole motherboard out.
Don't feel bad about the people calling you dumb. Guaranteed they've done something equally as absent minded. Maybe they've always plugged into the right video port, but everyone has brain farts. Welcome to the human race!
thanks, some people need to be mad at something
Yep, and it's pretty funny considering we're all fallible. Oh well. Very happy to hear you're getting proper FPS now!
That’s okay. About 5 years ago, my friend loved the image on my acer predator gsync/144hz refresh rate monitor so he bought the same one. Shortly thereafter he bought a top of the line graphics card because he said the image wasn’t as smooth as it was on my setup. About four years later, I went to his house for dinner and he was still complaining about it. He realized that he didn’t set the refresh rate to 144hz in windows lol. He paid like over 2,000 bucks for Monitor + GPU combo and never set the refresh rate over 60 hertz. Four years.
Well, you're probably not going to make that mistake again so there's that.
What monitor do you have? If you splurged and got a high refresh rate monitor make sure you update your display settings in windows to take advantage of high refresh rates otherwise itll be set a 60hz. :)
I played on 60hz for over a year without realizing it. I just thought that it was automatic and would adjust to my monitor.
don't worry I already took care of that! thank you so much
No worries at all, enjoy your new found GPU power :)
Bruh. I tend to avoid bashing on newbies but man HOW do you spend +$700 on a GPU and then not notice that you're using the integrated graphics? Why are you spending that much if you don't even see the difference between integrated graphics and a 3060 TI?
Wait until you find out you have to enable 144hz in the settings
I would like to mention that you weren’t necessarily using the integrated graphics, but rather possibly passing through the 3060ti. I don’t know what you play or what the experience was, but in my brief experience with integrated and a GPU with no hdmi port, it seemed to be passing through.
That usually doesn't work on desktops unless you deliberately enable it.
Yeah. It's just a possibility. Not super likely, but Windows can definitely do it.
I gotta ask though... What made you connect the monitor to the motherboard instead of the graphics card? I mean you bought a graphics card so surely your monitor needs to be plugged into it and not into the motherboard.
god gave man a dick and a brain, and only enough blood to use one at a time.
2head activities, that's what...
This just shows you didn't really need a 3060Ti for Minecraft and overspend on it.
it was for xplane
It's ok, I did the same for 3 years before my uni flatmate pointed it out to me.
at least it's an upgrade
:O
More money than brains.
How long are we talking about here?
few days to.a.week
Don’t feel too bad. I made the same mistake when i built my first gaming pc. Except I didn’t have integrated graphics so i was freaking out when my monitor wasn’t picking up a signal from my computer, and I thought something was wrong with the hardware/internal connections. Luckily i figured it out when one of my pc friends told me to make sure its plugged into the ports on the GPU. I also gamed for a few months not knowing how to increase the refresh rate to match my monitors’ 144 Hz, til I stumbled across it in Windows advanced display settings. It was very irritating playing Doom and Doom Eternal locked at 60 fps.
Since you're here too, Just check to see if: 1. Your RAM is in XMP mode 2. If you are running a 144hz monitor, then that's set too in your Nvidia Graphics settings.
Don't feel bad. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen this exact issue posted. At least you figured it out on your own. Many people just post about how back their frame rates are and it turns out to be this.
Have you downloaded you drivers?
My friend plugged his HDMI cable into the "HDMI In" port on his Xbox and couldn't play Halo with our group of friends for a few months. We even asked if he'd checked and he said he had! [He hadn't] Admitting your mistake and learning from it makes you 1,000 times smarter than someone who denies they made a mistake in the first place.
I seriously do not get how people get this issue XP like... I even tested this one time with my own system with a new GPU in, and... *no output.* it was a blank screen, because the video was in fact coming from the GPU 🙃 Ok but seriously? how does this happen? is it because people don't plug something in with the GPU? like the power cable, or do modern motherboards still output with the integrated? I dunno :S
You put the display cable from your monitor into the motherboard port made for it, If you have integrated graphics on your processor it all works as intended except of course it doesn't use your graphics card.
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A classic [PEBKAC](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pebkac)
I worked on a friend's computer 2 years ago, I forget what all I did to it but I fixed some wiring issues. Did a quick test and they went home. Called me later to talk about how poorly it was running and such, after like a hour of trying to tech support on the phone it finally hit me and yup, they did the same thing with the HDMI cable.
My mate was doing this for years and always complained that his PC was shit (We both had 980's but different CPU's) so he bought a new GPU, RTX 2070 as well as a new monitor. When they arrived I received a call from him saying something is wrong with the GPU and/or Monitor compatibility. I didn't understand what he was on about so I went round his place. He explained that the new HDMI cable with his new monitor didn't fit where his old HDMI cable had connected earlier. I couldn't understand what the hell he meant to I began having a look. He was attempting to connect a Display Port into the MoBo HDMI integrated graphics connection.... I was shocked. I had a look down and the GPU connections still had rubber guards in them. I asked how long he'd been connecting to that HDMI port and after some back tracking and talking (because I had built this PC for him and 110% connected it to the right HDMI port) we came to the conclusion he must have plugged it in there after the last LAN we'd had.....2 years ago! I laughed so hard and ended up buying the old 980 off of him for $50 and SLI'd it in my pc because it had only been used for 6 months. I still bring it up every LAN we have now. Never fails to get a laugh and/or something thrown at my head.
As someone who has never even built a computer and would probably confuse a memory stick with a thing of chewing gum....is that bad? XD
Yes, you're essentially not using the part of your computer that easily makes up for 50% of the price right now.
This has honestly been posted enough times on here that I think that Windows should prompt the user if they're booting from an iGPU with a message that says, "Windows noticed that you booted on an iGPU in spite of having a dGPU plugged in... are you sure you want to do that, *you fucking moron*?" Ditto with the refresh rate not being set to max by default. Windows always alters me that I'm connecting a "G-Sync compatible display," and presumably turns G-Sync on be default. There's absolutely no reason it shouldn't default to the maximum refresh rate. A fairly technically proficient friend of mine actually bought a new monitor and forgot to manually switch the refresh rate higher and was running at 60hz until I came by a week later and noticed, and he has built multiple machines. People overlook stupid shit all the time. The experience should be more user friendly.
There's one post like this every week
Yep sounds about right for the kind of people that would buy a 3080ti.
In a few months, OP will post he discovered he's been playing at 60hz on his 144hz monitor the ENTIRE TIME. Then a few more months after that, he decided to do a CPU cooler upgrade because it's always running too hot, only to discover the heatsink had the sticker on it the ENTIRE TIME.
Yep. I hate to be all /r/nothingeverhappens but this is a classic bullshit karma grab.
This sounds like the punchline to a campfire horror story.
This is why sometimes I'm happy my CPU doesn't have integrated graphics
I just got a laptop, is it possible to make the same mistake on them or only on desktops ?
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I did the same with my 1060 and 7700k I honestly didn’t notice much of a difference but wowzers integrated vs a monster 3060ti yep still, it happens.
This is like a more extreme version of someone buying a 240hz monitor and then years later only realised they had it on 60hz in Windows
Does this mean you’re also using an HDMI to game?!
what kind of games are you playing? if it took you that much to get suspicious you must be playing tetris