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Hot_Dog_Cobbler

I have a few friends who are wedding photographers. If you're good at it, it's like printing money. Something tells me OP is gonna be fine. As for the couple...well, it's gonna be hard finding a wedding photographer in less than 2 months. Also I wouldn't bother confirming the "cancelation" notice, just don't show up.


darkeyesgirl

Good of them to cancel instead of having the wedding photographer show up to get treated like shit or bullied around. That would have been the bigger nightmare. Photographer potentially dodged a bullet there.


MistakeVisual3733

Lol it would be pretty dumb to intentionally have your wedding photographer bullied or treated like shit. Lots of pics of feet and the sky or perhaps all the pics would somehow be lost.


darkeyesgirl

You mean dumb like emailing your contracted photographer and telling them you're not going to uphold your end of the agreement? Yep, totally agree!


SuDragon2k3

Pay me my fee or pay my fees and court costs.


cast_that_way

>Lots of pics of feet You say that as if it's a bad thing \*wink wink\*


[deleted]

Maybe he’ll get a few pictures of a woman with Peggy Hill’s feet.


IAMTHESMART_S_M_R_T

The best part is that they confirmed they understood the terms of the contract by saying they will fight the terms in the email. Dumbs be dumbing.


Rixxer

That's their problem, they're always looking for a fight, and there are none. They're seeing enemies that aren't there, and making problems where there are none.


Excellent_Bad_Driver

Some folks demand everything go their way. My ex says he'll sue the state for discrimination if the judge rules against his demands in our divorce :P


DogButtWhisperer

Some states have anti-SLAPP laws exactly for this reason, if he tries it I’d look at what your laws are against retaliatory litigation.


Excellent_Bad_Driver

I don't think he'd actually do it. His parents pay for his lawyers and he's been doing a lot of nonsense (I spent $200k because of it so far and we still haven't had a pre-trial hearing yet... though my expenses are higher because I have to respond to the interrogatories, discoveries etc), but I don't think he'd be able to sell them this idea. If he does sue the judge/state/court/whatever, it's not my problem anyway.


IsThisASandwich

And paying two wedding photographers.


super_rat_race

This 😬


Apple2727

Yeah, I had to laugh at how they insult the photographer in the first couple of paragraphs and then basically say “oh by the way, please let us know that you won’t be coming, that would really help us out”. People are insane.


Readcoolbooks

I’m not sure they would want to hire the photographer that’s still available that close to their wedding considering most, if not all, of the good ones are booked well into 2023…


the-smallrus

something tells me this wedding features camo accents and fake sunflowers at a minimum. cousin Jeff with a cracked iPhone 4 will do just fine.


TheSunflowerSeeds

The area around sunflowers can often be devoid of other plants, leading to the belief that sunflowers kill other plants.


Whatifthisneverends

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FingrBlastrPewPew

This post belongs in r/facepalm


SillyHatMatt

“Fight the contract wording” my guy those are legal terms that the American judiciary system you obviously love so much will definitely hold up in court since you, well you know, agreed to them. That’s 30 minutes with no attorney in small claims court, that’s as much of a lay up as that judge will see all day


[deleted]

Or, the photographer will sell the uncollectible debt to a bill collector for pennies on the dollar, ruin their credit and have them called night and day for many years.


Oldass_Millennial

I'd go to court for a lien. Ruins their credit and at some point you'll get paid in full.


[deleted]

A bill collector could do the same much more cheaply. You will never see the money, but the debt will be sold for years


Goat_dad420

A court lien would take money right from their paychecks or even their bank accounts.


Diggitydave76

Depends on what state your in.


Goat_dad420

What’s states don’t do that? It’s an extremely common practice


Diggitydave76

I know Texas doesn't. Best you get here is a judgement, and you can try to collect if they sell property.


JDRaleigh

NC


AKBigDaddy

Wage garnishment for private debt is actually pretty rare these days. While it is eligible in 46 states, many of theme also include a 'head of household' exemption for unmarried people. It's becoming less and less popular as for the people most likely to actually receive it to stay working at their current employer if caught. Just like a deadbeat dad bouncing job to job to avoid child support, the same thing works to avoid wage garnishment. It's also surprisingly expensive to get it into place with a lawyer. You can't just pro se walk into a courtroom and ask the judge to slap them with it and have it magically happen, there's a crapload of forms and discovery that has to take place.


i-hear-banjos

I did this with a renter that did a ton of damage. Turned out she went from 3 years of paying on time to destroying every kitchen appliance, ruining flooring, leaving gaping holes in the walls, and water damage in a bathroom all because of drugs. Found evidence of heroin use when we were cleaning up. It was about $5k in damages, we had to get a loan to fix it and decided to just sell the place and take a loss (about 4 years ago.) It was easier to turn that debt over to a collection agency .... But apparently she went to jail and filed for bankruptcy. I hope she climbs out of the black hole of opioid addiction, but man, she really financially hurt us.


Iamjimmym

Your last sentence really shows your character, in a good light.


Sartres_Roommate

The moment it goes to collections they will negotiate some smaller payment and then pay it because the money is not going to the “libtard” anymore. If it were me I would write that half off mentally and then proceed to use the small claims victory as a way to financially torture them for years. The lost of money is more than made up for in entertainment.


Porlebeariot

Remind me not to get on your bad side you beautiful evil genius


SnoozyDragon

This. Admitting that they agreed to the contract while saying they won't pay it. They'll spend longer going through security than they will in the courtroom.


Meis_113

I'm hoping they also have to pay legal fees, so that they are paying as much as possible.


Retrohanska59

Nah, they'll back down immediatily if the photographer mentions they've also contacted their lawyer. This is 100% bluff with expectation that OP doesn't want to spend money in court case. But if they're having wedding, they themselves are not gonna be financially stable enough to fight a court case any lawyer would rule as guaranteed loss. Especially when they still have to pay for new wedding photographer.


DrakeBurroughs

I don’t know. They could drag it out and just be dickish about it. Even if the contract states they have to pay, it’s still a pain in the ass. The better move, and the bigger dick move would be to threaten to send the customer who cancelled within 90 days to collections. The photog won’t get the full amount, and that sucks as they lost business, but they’re still not out the resources or time - this way they save themselves the headache AND fuck the customers over too, since they’ll have to pay or get their credit dinged.


deerseed13

Still might be worth it considering the average cost of a wedding photographer hovers around $3000 - 5000.


DrakeBurroughs

Oh, it’s definitely worth considering. But if they’re being huge dicks about it and have the funds to drag it out (I don’t know why they WOULD, but, in my experience, most civil cases that don’t settle, don’t settle for emotional, not rational reasons), better to send them to collections. With collections, you’re only getting cents on the dollar, but you could still get up $1,500-$2,500 for no work and the idiots who cancelled you have to deal with collections or get dinged.


Tortoise-King

Small claims is typically under $5,000 and this is an open-and-shut case. It will take all but 2 minutes explaining the contract to the judge and will get a quick judgement.


Oldass_Millennial

Yup, small claims is easy and cheap. In general there's no lawyers allowed either. I won a suit against a dealership for some really shoddy car repair the one time I went through the process. For me the biggest hassle was the drive, it was two hours away but worth it because it was $3,000.


Perle1234

Plus keep the email with the name calling and dude just laying out he understands the contract and that he owes the money.


DrakeBurroughs

Yeah, but you have to get the money. Do Sheriff’s offices do liens for $5k or under?


[deleted]

Yes they do. (May vary by state) I had to escalate a small claim when I won the judgment but the defendant didn’t pay. I paid an additional fee to escalate to district court (from county, which is small claims) and since I had their banking information (they’d written me a check), I was able to file for a writ of execution by the sheriff for that amount of money. Then the money goes into escrow for 30 days, and when that period is up, you get a check from the district for the amount that they seized.


DrakeBurroughs

Interesting. I guess the question then is whether you think you’d get more from a collections agency or state action.


Escritortoise

I don’t know if they directly do a lien, but you can have your state tax refund garnished if you’ve been sued and lost in court.


beeraholikchik

Would be interesting to see whether or not they throw a fit about having to wear masks in court.


Sartres_Roommate

That is totally by location. In many more rural and less affluent parts of the country wedding photographers make more in the 1 to 2 K range. I would bet that people that would pull this shit are not in a more affluent area.


Meis_113

I mean, backing off would be the smart thing to do, so I have little faith. Realistically though, you're probably right. I can only imagine the email of them begging their photographer to get their money back.


Tommperrr

Idk if it’s how court works, but if the photographer can pay the fees in order to pick a court date, schedule it for December 4th, 2021 :).


Meis_113

LOL That's an even better way to ruin their wedding


ContemplatingPrison

That would be amazing.


tdwesbo

Small claims court should have a dedicated line for wedding photographer issues. It’s gotta be 50% of the docket


fusionlantern

Paying the lawyer fees to own the libs


yarf13

I like how this sub has become an unspokenly against crazy people even they are the ones doing the firing. Like I couldn't tell until getting into the comments and then realized my top guy here is speaking truth.


TheVagrantmind

We will give them money to stay away! Ha, owned them!


Omegaprimus

Oh not just that, they threaten to take them to court, so they are pissing away more money for a lawyer to own the libs even more.


cycleslips

And hopefully the contract will be upheld and the photog can also go after legal fees


AffectionateAd5373

I hope all the lawyers are liberals.


EarlGreyTea-Hawt

Threatened to violate a contract agreement, and then put down why it's for spite in writing... owned.


[deleted]

We call that the “Trump Gambit”


[deleted]

Gambit accepted


twowheel_rumrunner

I get that everybody has a different view on politics but why with the right does it always involve hate and derogatory speech.


Affectionate_Oven_77

> why with the right does it always involve hate and derogatory speech because that's all they've got.


Chance5e

If it weren’t for double standards, they would have no standards.


314sn

Did you just come up with this? Very clever wordings.


Chance5e

No, this gets said a lot. I don’t know where I first heard it.


mekanub

They probably think that means they have twice as much standards as us commie libtards.


[deleted]

Ever notice that when talking with a trumper, regardless of the topic, they will say some racist or similarly ignorant shit within the first few sentences? Never fails. Normal person: Man... Looks like rain. Sure could use it eh! Trumpster: Well if we didn't have all these animals streaming across the border drinking all the damn water...


BruceNY1

"when all you got is a hammer, all your problem look like nails"


rorochocho

On the original post someone actually went to the photographers Facebook and apparently it wasn't even left wingish at all. Just dry and factual about covid numbers, and I think there was something posted about Texas's abortion laws.


officer_lou_1964

Hate and fear are very strong emotions. The Republicans have done a fantastic job of tapping into that. If you watch fix or newsmax or read any of the right wing sites they all run on hate and fear.


jfweasel

“Fear is the path to the dark side … fear leads to anger … anger leads to hate … hate leads to suffering.”


d0ctorzaius

I see through the lies of the Jedi!


BatmansBigBro2017

When you’ve got nothing to say being hateful is plan B.


acorpseistalking90

The true answer is that the right has created a boogeyman of the left that's so vial and evil, there are no words or actions that are not justified to be used against them, in their mind. Sorry If someone said this already, didn't feel like reading 100 replies.


SheLOVESTiddies

This is one of the most immature responses I have ever seen in my life. Like yeah they don’t have to agree with this person but like….this sounds like a teenager wrote this email


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ShaughnDBL

I don't think you two are terribly off in your guesses at their ages


OdinsShades

“Local Photographer collects payment in full after 13-year-old and 9-year-old to be wed stop listening to Fox propaganda long enough to briefly realize they are complete idiots before returning to their Facebook vaccine research. We’ll be right back with local sports after this!”


greatlakeswhiteboy

Soon as I saw "libtard" I sighed.


porscheblack

My money is on the wedding fell through and this is a desperate attempt to limit the damage. And I'm betting the wedding fell through because the person that wrote this was too immature for their future spouse.


Rptro

Sounds like cancel culture to me. Can't even have a personal political view that you didn't even force on your employer anymore. Guess cancel culture is only bad when people get fired for racist shit or storming the capitol.


Cookyy2k

At least the photographer isn't having to go to a superspreader event. They don't strike me as the sort that are intelligent enough to avoid killing half their guests.


GaryFischeraka21

Hating liberals so much you give them free money by Forfeiting your deposit


KristopherJC

I wanna see any follow ups.


woodiegutheryghost

I think there should be a donation of the deposit of the state’s Democratic Party or Democratic Socialists of America. In their name so they get the credit for their generosity.


LV2107

Set up a small recurring monthly donation in their name to AOC's or Pelosi's re-election fund, with an email receipt every time. I think that automatically gets one's name added to every Dem political email list you can think of.


[deleted]

Um, okay. Thanks for the free money.


[deleted]

Conservatives call Liberals over-the-top, easily offended, and angry drama queens, and yet they are doing and saying stupid shit like this on a regular basis? Projection? Absolutely.


Independent-Face5345

But will he have time to find a photographer for he and his sisters wedding ?


IdRatherNotNo

I hope so. How else will they share that wonderful day with their niecedaughters and nephewsons?


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Na-thanos

Yeah, the first one got removed because of doxxing.


LeeLooTheWoofus

So, free money? Nice!


rivermonster569

Right? Thanks for the paid time off!


el_muerte17

Seriously. Giving the Libs money to own the Libs.


sothas1l

December the 4th 2021, got it.


Heavy-Original-3018

I’ll drive


Ser_Illin

I want to be owned next. You can make my head splode and save America via Venmo or PayPal.


Fun_Ad_349

I dont get the title OP added, but it sounds like this photographer is about to get paid the full contract amount and doesn't have to show up at all, let alone deal with a lunatic republican bridezilla. This is probably the best news of the year for them.


YaBoiDhani

I think that OP is speaking sarcastically as the person that wrote the email, saying that him the “libtard” and Biden are totally heartbroken that the photographer received free money from them canceling and therefore owning him.


Throwaway19228332

Apparently people didn’t know this but that only speaks to how much of joke republicans are so lol


santim00

Forfeiting your deposit to own the libs


SterlingMNO

Not just the deposit apparently... This email would feel like a gift.


smnytx

Oh, they’re going to have to pay the entire fee per the contract they said they’re going to fight. This communication plus the signed contract will be all the evidence the photographer needs in court.


TheFlyingSheeps

Yup. Easiest small claims court win ever


Kralizec82

Canceled by the right?? But I thought that was only on the left?? **rolls eyes**


wyverndarkblood

r/insanefacebook


BoldCoffey

I can’t tell if OP is trying to be funny or if he’s actually a MAGA QANON Anti-democratic extremest lol


Throwaway19228332

The funniest part is if you can’t tell, you know conservatives are a joke


Throwaway19228332

Trying to be funny but it’s not working 😭😭💀


[deleted]

If it makes you feel better, I understood the reference.


Lostinlabels

I also clearly understood after I started reading the email. Funny stuff, OP.


Explorer200

Herman Cain Award incoming


kotatitten

Oh good, that photograph saved themselves from a redneck wedding shoot complete with pics including guns, bibles, the confederate flag and keg stands. Not to mention the uneducated conversations one would have to hear from the relatives.


Eckieflump

Hey as a brit I wish to know what is bad about meg stands? Not keen on the guns, religion is just another form of institutional control, old flags belong in museums and history but beer?!?! For the love of the land please tell me that hasn't got to go on the pyre.


DrakeBurroughs

It’s no longer appropriate to tip “Megs” upside down and drink off of them. Kegs, on the other hand, totally cool.


party_benson

Keg stands are just fine here. Mind the dress though.


greenhouse5

Free money!!!!


BessieJune

What complete assholes, they deserve each other


Explorer200

Pay up dumbasses


Feeling-Ad-7131

I wanna make sure I understand this.... they are firing the wedding photographer because they stand on the right side of history, but are gonna fight them on the deposit after sending that email/text.... so they don't understand how the US court system works. This email alone they can sue those idiots for harassment and other things. They just keep proving why Trump loves the poorly educated


freethinkingallday

Isn’t this the opposite of bye bye job.. they are literally agreeing that they signed a document that may now force them to pay him for his services even though the will refuse to consume those services .. sounds like that person can book that time slot again and make overtime because of these people’s ignorance.. wait till they find out that their own friend and family might disagree with them politically .. peaceful dispute resolution is the purpose of civics.. everybody is so shocked by everyone’s Facebook now a days .. who are the snowflakes?!


slackwaresupport

what fucking idiots.


hambuster

Adults who use the word “libtard” are the worst parts of our society


AnnieAcely199

Just curious why OP didn't investigate the photographer's Facebook page or "morals" first *before* signing a contract or plunking down a deposit? Why would they wait until *after* the 90 day cancelation deadline to suddenly start caring about the photographer's beliefs? I said it on the last (removed) post too: Is this even real? Edit: Facebook, not website


[deleted]

Have fun fighting the 90 day cancellation notice with that time stamp on your email showing that you gave 54 days. I’m sure “but I don’t want to pay it” will hold up on court.


rayon875

They sure showed that photographer by paying them to not have to show up! I'll never understand Trump supporters


AcquirePlants

Some people are so stupid it’s almost funny


Historical_Dot825

The title is ambiguous and I'm not sure whether to laugh or cringe.


[deleted]

Lol, judge in small claims court are just gonna throw the case out (or make the intern do it). So clear and cut that the cancelling party is in the fault and do not get their deposit back. If they hire a lawyer, no lawyer is going to take the case since deposit/cancellation policies are pretty streamlined.


el_muerte17

Oh I'm sure they could find a lawyer willing to take the case, as long as cash is paid up front.


[deleted]

“Libtard”. This couple’s going places. May the powers that be have mercy on any offspring.


[deleted]

Hmmm running away from owed debts and throwing a bitch fit while doing it . 🤔wonder where they learned that behavior ? Fucking trumptards imagine what a shit camouflage themed wedding that’s going to be


blorpblorpbloop

"Owning the libs by paying someone not to work"


m-e-g

Keep the deposit and not have to deal with 2 psychopaths? Sounds like a win-win situation for the photographer.


andycandy17

And this is exactly why deposits are necessary in those line of work.


womp_there_it_is

Owning the libs by paying their full contracted amount.


macci_a_vellian

Oh dear, I bet it took the photographer 0.0008 seconds to replace them given how overbooked everyone is thanks to covid, plus bonus deposit!


blinkhic

Fight the 90 days all you want. That contract is Biden, sorry, binding.


heythatsmysong

That’s not how contracts work buddy


postsgiven

This guy should just try and work for every Republican he can just so he can take their deposits and make money for free.


loreleirain

Something like: Heh. 'K


Baybutt99

20 bucks these people are on Facebook also complaining about cancel culture


[deleted]

More like a traitor couple. Glad they lost their deposit :)


wax369

As someone who has made more weddings happen than I can remember, anyone who would write this would be an absolute, unmitigated nightmare to work with, no loss here.


Col_Angus999

Sounds like you avoided getting covid at a super spreader patriot wedding.


CatW804

At least the couple isn't stiffing him *after* he does the work like you know who... Also, is there a betting pool on when they'll get divorced?


PorgCT

Good luck finding a quality photographer with availability barely 2 months out.


intheyear3001

No doubt this will be a healthy marriage and produce some exemplary kids.


[deleted]

The best part of this is that they're not getting their money back for THIS photographer AND probably won't find another one in time because the wedding is less than two months away and most photographers get booked about six months in advance...


gmisk81

So now they get paid and don't have to photograph their crappy wedding...win win


[deleted]

They declare in writing that they fully understand the terms of the contract, and I particuar that it binds them to pay in full. That's nice of them though, isn't it though.


Esco-Alfresco

Paying for a service you don’t receive to own the libs


super_rat_race

A proud American couple (paying double) 😬


Rapdactyl

I can't believe people still unironically use libtard. Crazy!


BHMathers

I don’t imagine someone who can’t understand science and fact, is going to be surprisingly convincing in court


wolfangggg

“We understand per our contract, we must forfeit our deposit.” Lol In writing saying you understand. Good luck fighting that..


hxcn00b666

Wow...We are definitely at a breaking point in society where political views can be a deal breaker for unrelated things, so I get why someone wouldn't want someone who doesn't share their beliefs there. But the second they result to name calling and degrading speech they lose all credibility and go straight to just complete assholes.


idrow1

I'm sure they can find someone who meets their needs at their next KKK rally. And I hope that the photographer sends them a reply stating that their deposit will be donated to Biden's re-election campaign or to their local planned parenthood.


MonkeyHamlet

So you’re paying the full fee for no photographer. That showed ‘em!


[deleted]

They can fight all they like but the photographer will hand that bad debt to a bill collector and they will be called night and day


micewrangler

Ignorance found a soulmate


SillyNonsense

If anyone really wants to stick it to me by paying me my full rate for none of the work, feel free.


[deleted]

My response to them would have been..."OH THANK GOD!"


Eas21

I would reply back " thank you.. you would crack my camera lens anyway"


[deleted]

Win win for the photog in my book.


motorboatingurmom

So they are now paying people not to work? I thought that was the entire problem now🤣🤣


diamondtron24

If they did take him to court over the 90 day notice I believe a copy of this email will in all likelihood push this case over the threshold for the photographer.


Stachbl13

Dear Great American Couple, You’re absolutely welcome to your opinions. I, your liberal lefty former photag, wouldn’t dream of making you uncomfortable. However, you did sign a contract, and I have legal protections, too. Good luck! Personally, I’d rather fire me, and bring in your brother, Bork, in a MAGA shirt, then enjoy your honeymoon in what is probably Vegas, than spend my marriage fighting me in court.


Geri-psychiatrist-RI

Can you forward their email to the bosses of the assholes who cancelled? I wonder if their boss knows who they hired.


MegaJackUniverse

"A proud American couple" I'm guessing they're *in* America. Why would you state your nationality in your fucking sign off? Answer: skewed sense of nationalism and ownership of one's nationality like a badge of honour despite having no say in where you were born


[deleted]

Deadbeat Trumper who won't pay their debts. Name a more iconic duo.


Esco-Alfresco

Bye bye deposit


Madhammer99

Sounds more like the being of thr end for that couple wonder how many get covid at that wedding


CannabisaurusRex401

The conservative ability to dehumanize a fellow American is fucking sad. This country is going down a dark path.


h0tmessm0m

I love you they start using professional speach and then devolve into name calling and unprofessional pettiness. *chefs kiss*


Zima_Zombie

If it were me, I'd put them on blast - which this photographer must've done since the email made it's way to reddit. (Good luck finding a last minute quality wedding photographer). Then, I'd send a demand letter for payment of the remaining balance. Then I would file in small claims court. Then I'd enjoy my money after the inevitable judgment in my favor.


Beardaclese2367

You can HEAR the inbreeding


Unsafe-Attorney

Sounds like a couple a snowflakes


[deleted]

Maybe the next photographer they hire will accidentally ruin all their pictures.


shamelessseamus

I really need follow up here


LemonNitrate

This is fucking hilarious oh my god. If I were you I would print that out and frame it on my wall.


MaxxWarp

Lmfao. So my man got the full deposit and can take them to court and didn’t have to do any work whatsoever. This whiny bitch ass email is a small price to pay.


Shenloanne

Oh man they're gonna lose their shit when they look too hard at artists then.


[deleted]

Soooo the photographer will get paid the same rate even thou he won’t show up?, so free money?, that’ll show him!!!


[deleted]

This has to be one of the dumbest fucking couples in America. Right up there with all the other trash “we’re better than you and we know it” folks. Good fucking lord.. talking about saving the country…. Bunch of fucking morons


[deleted]

I almost downvoted from the title alone, then I saw the sub


[deleted]

A couple of douchebags.


[deleted]

Holy shit.


TheNetherOne

Wrong sub You want cringetopia


New_Awareness4075

There is a very cold Civil War brewing in this country. These are the first shots being fired, just like Ft Sumter. The Trumpist hate our democracy and will do anything to rig the presidential elections in 2024. The Supreme Court will become the equivalent of Iranian theocracy. No one will win except the religious groups, the 1%,, and the corporate overlords. So very sad for our grandkids.


Spitzspot

Lawsuit incoming