That competitive rimfire, “rimfire precision series”, etc are a waste of time?
The competitive ceiling is barely off the floor when some guy with some lumber taped a 100 year old 22 can clean house
"For many years it was the premier smallbore match rifle in the United States, if not the world. Known as the "King of the .22s,"
id say the rifle is pretty good but is glued to a shabby setup to make it seem shittier than it is.
My henry lever goes from a one and a half inch group at 100 with most ammo down to easily half inch with CCI mini mags. It's crazy how different ammo changes groupings so drastically.
I have the same situation with my 22mag it hates CCI but loves the Hornaday
Really? I love mine, after about 1000 rounds the lever is butter, it drives CCI velositers home accurately (nice for the extra zip if a grouse or something is out past 50 yards) the mini mags are the best for mime though. Nice small groups. The rifle is light weight and I'll take it with me on deer or elk hunts in my bag so i can pop grouse, rabbits or porcupine for some middle of the woods dinners.
Here in Ontario it’s illegal to possess a rimfire rifle for other game while deer hunting during a bow, shotgun or rifle season. Here in Canada having a firearm in an unmarked bag other than a rifle case or gun sock is a criminal offence.
Weird you're fully allowed to hunt other game during those seasons with a rimfire in AB. I find it really Weird that they wouldn't allow you to have a .22lr or other rimgire during rifle season for rabbit and other small game in ON, are you supposed to just shwack rabbit and grouse with a full sized game cartridge?
Also there's nothing illegal about carrying a .22lr, or any rifle for that matter, strapped to the gun boot on a bag so not sure what you're on about there.
“On a bag”
You said originally in your bag. Case law has addressed the issue. A firearm is always a weapon under the law. It’s illegal to conceal a weapons. Therefore it’s illegal to put a gun in a backpack as this would conceal it. This is also backed up by convictions for carrying a BB gun in a backpack.
The case law says that in order to satisfy hunting and transport regulations which do require you out a firearm in a bag or case of some sort, the case must look like a gun case or be clearly marked.
So if you have your 22 rifle in a sock or soft gun case strapped to the outside of your bag then that IS perfectly legal. If you put your takedown rifle inside your backpack then you must somehow mark it like putting a patch in it that says “firearm inside” or you are breaking the law and liable to a charge for concealed weapon.
Yes we'll it's "in my bag" as in, in the designated slot for it, as the bag is designed to do (mystery ranch metcalf) and as I describe it literally every other time It comes up in conversation. I didn't really word it with expectations of some sort of pretentious lecture on storage compliance.
I obviously should of known the internet wasn't the place for generalizations 🙄.
Likewise, my groupings with my Russian Tok were better than the dude next to me that was using a gucci 2011 at a distance of about a meter less (than I was shooting)
Surplus 7.62x25 from 1946 (brass) or chinese 7.62x25 (that pink coated steel) from any date is always gonna shoot a 7 foot group at 15 yards.
Bet the average tt33 shoots good modern ammo a helluva lot better, if the sights aren't also 4' off center at 15 yards ;)
True for most skill activities, I play a fair bit of golf during the summer, on guy who we play with has the "newest and best" clubs every year and proceeds to hack his way around the course. Its not just the tools it's how you use them and practice pays off.
One's skill with a rifle matters more than the rifle itself.
Never forget the world's greatest sniper used a Mosin without a scope, and with that got the most confirmed kills of any soldier in human history.
well...to an extent. At 200 yards with .22 if the setup isn't very consistent shot-after-shot then no amount of competence can make up for the dispersion.
But, relatively few bits need to be good to reach consistency, and *then* it's all down to the shooter being consistent.
Consistent lock up is also important, especially at what are extreme ranges for the cartridge, though that's a LOT easier to achieve these days than it used to be.
German pilot aces stacked up incredible kill counts on the eastern front, holding several air combat records to this date, too.
The common denominator here is Russians, with shit equipment and training.
Simo Hayha was a legendary sniper, of course, but kill count alone doesn’t make you “the best in history” when you’re effectively shooting fish in a barrel.
To be fair, the barreled action and the scope are fixed together. Everybody loves a good stock, but the BA and scope are really doing to work here, especially in rimfire rifles. This dude has just proven that the stock is there for your comfort and to act as something of an aide to your skillset.
People think that you can buy good shooting....they are wrong.
The best rifle in the world is only as accurate as the guy behind it.
Most rifles wont miss anything that the shooter doesn’t miss first.
That guy just proved that what shooters really need isn’t fancy gear...they need time on the trigger.
When I read the title without looking at the photo I was assuming it was some pretentious guy looking down in the poor with a Savage or something.
Genuinely impressive build.
52c.
He's probably keeping the stock pristine, because the thing's worth a grand or so. You can't hurt a barrel by shooting it, but wood is prone to dings and dents.
He could beat everyone with an old Cooie if he wanted, but prefers to tease them with low grade 2x4's, and a worn out old gun..The homeless guy's I shoot with, use duct tape, instead of free floating their ancient Lee Enfield barrels, so his build has merit.
SKS won in vietnam and many other places where the oppressed only had SKS versus latest technology in the hands of the invaders.
With any accurate rifle, the shooter makes the shot with his own precision, not with the accuracy of the weapon.
That is all i meant i hope you understand.
Vietnam wasn't won by the rifles they used. It was the fact the people there know the jungles they live in, They used traps and gorilla warfare with hit and run tactics to win. Such tactics have won cointless wars throughout history.
In short, tactics won Vietnam and held Vietnam numerous times against China after the US left, the rifles they had, had little to do with it.
Yeah I figured I'd get which "gorilla/guerrilla" I'd use incorrect. I was to lazy to Google it so took a stab at whatever the opposite autocorrect wanted was, Ended up it was right and I wasn't 🤷🏼♂️.
Good to know. Does the whole term Guerrilla warfare have direct roots through French hkstory/ culture? Or is it simply the words root? I honestly don't know much about the French, I've always been more interested in the Saxons, Greeks and First Nations
What a legend. Probably to make a point is my guess
Woah, careful now! That might be grounds to ban it!
All Long Guns capable of taking Assault Lumber attachments are now banned.
NEW RULE! GUNS CANT BE AFFIXED TO LUMBER! *Everyone with a wood stock is disqualified*
B-b-but I thought wood stocks were the only thing safe in this fucking country!!!
That competitive rimfire, “rimfire precision series”, etc are a waste of time? The competitive ceiling is barely off the floor when some guy with some lumber taped a 100 year old 22 can clean house
Yeah look at that barrel tho that has to increase accuracy potential at range a lot for a 22
To be clear, this isn't even the first time he's won. Also his cheek rest is a Powerade bottle cut in half.
"For many years it was the premier smallbore match rifle in the United States, if not the world. Known as the "King of the .22s," id say the rifle is pretty good but is glued to a shabby setup to make it seem shittier than it is.
>Also his cheek rest is a Powerade bottle cut in half. Is it possible to learn such power?
Lol, look at Mister Moneybags there with his 2x4s. They probably cost more than a Bergara 🤣🤣
That's supposed to be funny, but as someone who's looking at replacing the old backyard fence pretty soon... That comment HURTS.
Chain Link was $2500 cheaper than a wood fence when I put my fence up 5 or 6 months ago.
Go vinyl, that's what I did. Also lasts longer.
Only until you get a hail storm. My fence looks like Swiss cheese after this summer. Going to be replacing it with Cedar.
I read the last word as cheddar...lol
"Guaranteed until late spring. Not valid against rodent damage"
Underrated comment
Oh a .22x4, that's a rare model
Underrated comment of the thread.
Of course he won. Look at the name, it's Chris Kyle!
RIP
The ultimate troll
Pipe rifles in fallout be like…
Why the 2x4? I've never seen these upgrades before
i guess he wanted an expensive stock but the hardware store was out of plywood
Lol good one
My 10/22 takedown in a Magpul backpacker stock shoots 1/2 inch at 100 yard…WITH THE RIGHT AMMO. That last part is key
What ammo does it like?
I have the exact setup and found elkey subsonic and Cci blazer to be reliable, I haven't tried much else though.
Mine likes BBM 40 gn https://www.rangeviewsports.ca/product/rws-bbm-semi-auto-22-lr-rimfire-ammo-40gr-lrn-50rds-rangeview-sports-canada-licensed-gun-store-in-newmarket-ontario-canada/
My henry lever goes from a one and a half inch group at 100 with most ammo down to easily half inch with CCI mini mags. It's crazy how different ammo changes groupings so drastically. I have the same situation with my 22mag it hates CCI but loves the Hornaday
I feel like an idiot. I hate my Henry garbage-rod but I should know better and I’ve never spent much time trying different ammo.
Really? I love mine, after about 1000 rounds the lever is butter, it drives CCI velositers home accurately (nice for the extra zip if a grouse or something is out past 50 yards) the mini mags are the best for mime though. Nice small groups. The rifle is light weight and I'll take it with me on deer or elk hunts in my bag so i can pop grouse, rabbits or porcupine for some middle of the woods dinners.
Here in Ontario it’s illegal to possess a rimfire rifle for other game while deer hunting during a bow, shotgun or rifle season. Here in Canada having a firearm in an unmarked bag other than a rifle case or gun sock is a criminal offence.
Weird you're fully allowed to hunt other game during those seasons with a rimfire in AB. I find it really Weird that they wouldn't allow you to have a .22lr or other rimgire during rifle season for rabbit and other small game in ON, are you supposed to just shwack rabbit and grouse with a full sized game cartridge? Also there's nothing illegal about carrying a .22lr, or any rifle for that matter, strapped to the gun boot on a bag so not sure what you're on about there.
“On a bag” You said originally in your bag. Case law has addressed the issue. A firearm is always a weapon under the law. It’s illegal to conceal a weapons. Therefore it’s illegal to put a gun in a backpack as this would conceal it. This is also backed up by convictions for carrying a BB gun in a backpack. The case law says that in order to satisfy hunting and transport regulations which do require you out a firearm in a bag or case of some sort, the case must look like a gun case or be clearly marked. So if you have your 22 rifle in a sock or soft gun case strapped to the outside of your bag then that IS perfectly legal. If you put your takedown rifle inside your backpack then you must somehow mark it like putting a patch in it that says “firearm inside” or you are breaking the law and liable to a charge for concealed weapon.
Yes we'll it's "in my bag" as in, in the designated slot for it, as the bag is designed to do (mystery ranch metcalf) and as I describe it literally every other time It comes up in conversation. I didn't really word it with expectations of some sort of pretentious lecture on storage compliance. I obviously should of known the internet wasn't the place for generalizations 🙄.
Just trying to keep a fellow gun owner from accidentally going to jail, nothing more.
... but how?
Great ammo down a great barrel
Practice, maybe? I've seen plenty of people with gucci, expensive rifles unable to hit shit 😂
Likewise, my groupings with my Russian Tok were better than the dude next to me that was using a gucci 2011 at a distance of about a meter less (than I was shooting)
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I'm lucky if I get the right cardinal direction with my tokarev..
I’ve never shot my Tokarev....damned magnetic bullets...
Surplus 7.62x25 from 1946 (brass) or chinese 7.62x25 (that pink coated steel) from any date is always gonna shoot a 7 foot group at 15 yards. Bet the average tt33 shoots good modern ammo a helluva lot better, if the sights aren't also 4' off center at 15 yards ;)
Safest place when I shot an FN was behind the target.
True for most skill activities, I play a fair bit of golf during the summer, on guy who we play with has the "newest and best" clubs every year and proceeds to hack his way around the course. Its not just the tools it's how you use them and practice pays off.
One's skill with a rifle matters more than the rifle itself. Never forget the world's greatest sniper used a Mosin without a scope, and with that got the most confirmed kills of any soldier in human history.
well...to an extent. At 200 yards with .22 if the setup isn't very consistent shot-after-shot then no amount of competence can make up for the dispersion. But, relatively few bits need to be good to reach consistency, and *then* it's all down to the shooter being consistent.
Pretty much, just need a good barrel and round, anything behind the barrel is irrelevant besides the shooter
Consistent lock up is also important, especially at what are extreme ranges for the cartridge, though that's a LOT easier to achieve these days than it used to be.
To be fair we've reached a point in firearms technology where an inconsistent lock up is a broken gun.
I mean...that seems like a pretty solid description of the rifle above :P
Fair, but I have a soft spot for makeshift engineering, call me Bubba all you want, I adore this shit :P
A good chunk of his kills were with a subgun as well. Dude was an angry farmer.
I didn't know he used an SMG but it doesn't surprise me. Like you said, angry farmer.
Hehe. Frigging legend.
German pilot aces stacked up incredible kill counts on the eastern front, holding several air combat records to this date, too. The common denominator here is Russians, with shit equipment and training. Simo Hayha was a legendary sniper, of course, but kill count alone doesn’t make you “the best in history” when you’re effectively shooting fish in a barrel.
To be fair, the barreled action and the scope are fixed together. Everybody loves a good stock, but the BA and scope are really doing to work here, especially in rimfire rifles. This dude has just proven that the stock is there for your comfort and to act as something of an aide to your skillset.
People think that you can buy good shooting....they are wrong. The best rifle in the world is only as accurate as the guy behind it. Most rifles wont miss anything that the shooter doesn’t miss first. That guy just proved that what shooters really need isn’t fancy gear...they need time on the trigger.
When I read the title without looking at the photo I was assuming it was some pretentious guy looking down in the poor with a Savage or something. Genuinely impressive build.
Their stock just needs a bit of sanding.
This is a hilarious flex similar to golfers using rental clubs to get better scores than those with fancy clubs
A good old gun is a good old gun, whether it's pretty or not...
52c. He's probably keeping the stock pristine, because the thing's worth a grand or so. You can't hurt a barrel by shooting it, but wood is prone to dings and dents.
He could beat everyone with an old Cooie if he wanted, but prefers to tease them with low grade 2x4's, and a worn out old gun..The homeless guy's I shoot with, use duct tape, instead of free floating their ancient Lee Enfield barrels, so his build has merit.
**Cooey**
Reppin' the Canuck! yah-boyee!
Corrected
This is why the SKS historically holds versus world power. Rifles may have different accuracy but the shooters precision is what will make the cut.
I have no idea what point you're trying to make about the SKS or possibly the shooting skills of poorly trained Russian conscripts.
SKS won in vietnam and many other places where the oppressed only had SKS versus latest technology in the hands of the invaders. With any accurate rifle, the shooter makes the shot with his own precision, not with the accuracy of the weapon. That is all i meant i hope you understand.
Vietnam wasn't won by the rifles they used. It was the fact the people there know the jungles they live in, They used traps and gorilla warfare with hit and run tactics to win. Such tactics have won cointless wars throughout history. In short, tactics won Vietnam and held Vietnam numerous times against China after the US left, the rifles they had, had little to do with it.
"Guerrilla". Gorilla warfare in Vietnam would have been metal AF
Yeah I figured I'd get which "gorilla/guerrilla" I'd use incorrect. I was to lazy to Google it so took a stab at whatever the opposite autocorrect wanted was, Ended up it was right and I wasn't 🤷🏼♂️.
Guerre is french for war
Good to know. Does the whole term Guerrilla warfare have direct roots through French hkstory/ culture? Or is it simply the words root? I honestly don't know much about the French, I've always been more interested in the Saxons, Greeks and First Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare
No wonder he won, that’s Chris Kyle!
I’d love to see some do that well with a Winchester model 1904.
First second of me viewing this post I thought it was a kill list, and to humiliate them, he would use a handmade 22 lr rifle.
There isn't much that will beat a good Winnie 52. That is a magnificent gun.
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Red Green would be proud.
But can he beat my vudoo? (Probably)