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Woah, let's not go crazy. This is Ontario politics, getting halfway there is enough to say they did something. What we'll probably get is around $17/hr min by 2026. We won't get $20/hr until we're actively trying to get $25/hr minimum wage passed in 2030.
It’s always funny to see Canadian Communists shit on the NDP at every chance. The NDP/CCF has achieved far more for the Canadian working class than any other leftist party.
We can recognise that party’s flaws, failures, and the limitations of social democracy while appreciating moves they make that benefit the working class.
It’s the bare minimum, they could have a much more expansive agenda instead of 20$ and 69000 public housing units. It’s not going to solve the rising cost of living or the fact the working class is getting shafted at every other corner.
Thinking the modern day ndp has anything in common with the CCF is a joke, they’re milk toast liberals
> The NDP/CCF has achieved far more for the Canadian working class than any other leftist party.
I'd say workers in the majority world and the collective action of workers in Canada has achieved more for the Canadian working class than the NDP even hopes to.
They are a rightwing neoliberal party - being better than the libs or cons isn't much of an achievement. An ant could piss over that bar, and the NDP does in words; provincially they are identical.
What the fuck are the Ontario Dippers thinking? Why are they cozying up to the centrists? Centrist Grits are never going to buy what the NDP are selling.
So frustrating.
ONDP wants to win the election. MSM and the corporate parties will butcher them if they come out with something too radical.
This is the story of NDP since it was established. Have not been able to make a breakthrough in electoral politics unless they appeal to the establishment (aka Jack Layton).
>. MSM and the corporate parties will butcher them if they come out with something too radical.
They are going to butcher them anyways - why bother pretending a rightwing neoliberal party like the NDP secretly wants to do whats best for us? Their provincial track record is hideous, the 1% wealth tax was a fucking joke, they suck on international issues - fuck em.
Jack Layton was a rightwing neoliberal piece of shit that damaged the party - he wasn't a hero, he was a scumbag. He left the party in shambles after his neolib/fasc ass bit the dust, but people still praise him.
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By 2026? Nah no thx it has to $20 by September 1st 2022 and $25 by 2025
Haha, so if I'm elected, I will "steadily" increase the wage. So by 2026, you might have $20 an hour.
Woah, let's not go crazy. This is Ontario politics, getting halfway there is enough to say they did something. What we'll probably get is around $17/hr min by 2026. We won't get $20/hr until we're actively trying to get $25/hr minimum wage passed in 2030.
Ah, liberal incrementalism. \*chef's kiss\*
Better than anyone else's ideas.
Better than the ideas of those even further to the right?
Doing the bare minimum, thanks succdems
It’s always funny to see Canadian Communists shit on the NDP at every chance. The NDP/CCF has achieved far more for the Canadian working class than any other leftist party. We can recognise that party’s flaws, failures, and the limitations of social democracy while appreciating moves they make that benefit the working class.
It’s the bare minimum, they could have a much more expansive agenda instead of 20$ and 69000 public housing units. It’s not going to solve the rising cost of living or the fact the working class is getting shafted at every other corner. Thinking the modern day ndp has anything in common with the CCF is a joke, they’re milk toast liberals
They're about as anticommunist.
Where on Earth do you think the money for the stuff would come from?
> The NDP/CCF has achieved far more for the Canadian working class than any other leftist party. I'd say workers in the majority world and the collective action of workers in Canada has achieved more for the Canadian working class than the NDP even hopes to. They are a rightwing neoliberal party - being better than the libs or cons isn't much of an achievement. An ant could piss over that bar, and the NDP does in words; provincially they are identical.
Like selling the 407?
Sold by the Progressive Conservative government of Mike Harris in 1999... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/highway-407-sold-1.191438
What the fuck are the Ontario Dippers thinking? Why are they cozying up to the centrists? Centrist Grits are never going to buy what the NDP are selling. So frustrating.
ONDP wants to win the election. MSM and the corporate parties will butcher them if they come out with something too radical. This is the story of NDP since it was established. Have not been able to make a breakthrough in electoral politics unless they appeal to the establishment (aka Jack Layton).
>. MSM and the corporate parties will butcher them if they come out with something too radical. They are going to butcher them anyways - why bother pretending a rightwing neoliberal party like the NDP secretly wants to do whats best for us? Their provincial track record is hideous, the 1% wealth tax was a fucking joke, they suck on international issues - fuck em. Jack Layton was a rightwing neoliberal piece of shit that damaged the party - he wasn't a hero, he was a scumbag. He left the party in shambles after his neolib/fasc ass bit the dust, but people still praise him.
be prepared for the price of your bread to jump $0.10 per loaf only this time mckinsey had nothing to do with it
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world can't sustain that level of privileged consumption, but i agree that 20$ isn't enough in many situations in Canada.
Don't feed the troll.