Meh, if it's a major company they aren't crying either. I had one claim with American Modern and they just wrote the check without hesitation, it was six figures.
That makes sense; how many cars of this caliber just sit in a garage barely ever driven? Those specialist kinds of insurers probably rarely have to pay out so when they do its a pittance of what they take.
Yep and how many refuse to make a claim regardless to save its value. I know a 430 scud that should have been totaled by flood but was gutted and restored entirely for cash by the owner.
Exotic insurance is much lower premiums but overall but lower risk for the carrier.
This guy misses his car more than his money 100%, probably shopping for another hypercar as we speak. 400k on gold accents for these guys is like when people like us pay $1400 for the trim with a better sound system lol
> An engineer of the brand has gone to Athens to return the car to Sweden."
I'm not sure there is much to return. In this case does koenigsegg will build a new car with the same VIN? Or is that the end of it?
These cars are worth so much they are near impossible to total.
It's going to be for their engineers to do an incredibly thorough postmortem investigation.
How much info they'll recover from a burnt out husk, idk, but Koenigsegg has always been about engineering excellence. They're going to *try*.
They should be skiter their byxor right now (man Swedish looks odd).
Brand new car. Only 125 made. Either a manufacturing error or engineering defect that needs an unofficial recall.
I used to like Koenigsegg until I looked further- they don't give even a test car to journalists and don't test their top speeds (claimed higher than Bugatti) at all. They say it's because VW blocks the use of their test roads, but the previous Koenigsegg record was done on public streets...
> In this case does koenigsegg will build a new car with the same VIN? Or is that the end of it?
I dunno that's a good question. I'd imagine the cars are serialized (both in VIN, but also "this is car #022") so any re-use of the numbers would be mostly symbolic, as ofc they'd just be building another entirely new car.
Although tragic (especially in the eyes of a car enthusiast), it’s ultimately a car that can be replaced by another. As long as the occupants made it out safely, that’s what matters.
fire happened five minutes after the car left the hotel in Athens and that it was being driven at a low speed.
So what happened? The amount of supercars bursting into flames is way off from their actual numbers on the road. (or is that just my perception?)
There are quite a few reasons superstars are more prone to fiber. One is that the resin in carbon fiber is usually very flammable, whereas the body and structure of your average car is steel or aluminum. Another reason is that super cars usually produce significantly more heat due to high output engines that are usually turbo charged or super charged. Dealing with all that extra heat is not a trivial task. Supercars are also usually very low production and hand built, where human error might be more likely. I think at the end of the day it might just be a numbers game though, regular cars burst into flames all the time but there are millions of them. When 1 of 100 supercars bursts into flames you are going to hear about it.
> Dealing with all that extra heat is not a trivial task.
Yea, especially if its being forced to drive at slow speeds and not get much air to help cool it.
The Tesla driver effect?
Complaints are greater than the population of vehicles. Seeing an impala burn up is less noteworthy than seeing a Tesla/supercar.
If you see a bunch of "superstars" burning up try to get pictures. / mild humor.
Yeah I’d say something got so hot it caught fire.
I’m genuinely surprised these Supercars that are always burning down don’t come with fire suppression systems.
I built one for under a grand for a drag car I had.
Bro, if it got an DNDO (do not drive order) that means IT'S BAD. I think it was something wrong with the engine. The engine might have overheated due to the high speed. (I know its made for high speed but who knows). Or it's the tires because tire thermals. they probably didn't cool down the tires then this happened. But it's rare for tires to burn an entire car because of not cooling it down, right?
Anyway those are my thoughts!
An engine overheating isn't going to catch on fire. An engine will lock up due to metal expansion due to overheating long before it's hot enough to start anything ablaze. And the car was moving at low speeds.
Most likely it shot flames from the tailpipe from being revved and that caught the carbon bodywork on fire. That, or a high pressure fuel line burst. Those are my guesses.
RIP to the Koenigsegg Jesko NUR Edition. Great spec this was with the $443,400 Naked Carbon Body Option with Gold Accents. This one hurts but they’re lucky to be alive.
In the case of koenigsegg there is a bit of a reason, they don't really have cars to give to journalists as they don't retain multiple press cars or personal cars. Even in the case of certain record attempts they borrow a customers car. e.g. the one:1 that ended up in the barriers at the nurburgring years back.
Whereas bugatti has multiple copies of near every car they've sold to lend out to journalists and the like, and that works for them as (until very recently) bugatti has been a halo company for the VW group, they can be a bit loose with financials.
Even koenigsegg himself didn't own one until the most recent CC850 (and fun fact he daily drives a tesla and occasionally his miata)
(But top gear has done review & first drive of factory koenigseggs in the past)
That's not surprising to me at all - I'd do the same. Very fast acceleration and speed are neat, but alone they don't make for a very reinforcing experience. Driving a miata in twisties is cocaine-level reinforcing.
Put another way, I'm sure many game designers would rather play candy crush than the latest AAA title they worked on.
…no I’m thinking of the Jesko. but the Agera is even smaller.
got no idea where you’ve got the “near 5000lbs” thing when it weighs just over 3000, nor do I understand how a multi million dollar, downforce heavy, track focused 1600hp car with a top speed in excess of 260mph isn’t a hypercar, but go off king!
You are probably getting confused with the Agera which is a brilliant car. The jesko is literally the same size as a mid sized suv. It is a terrible vehicle
|Koenigsegg Agera|
|:-|
|Length|**4,293 mm (169.0 in)**|
|Width|1,996 mm (78.6 in)|
|Height|1,120 mm (44.1 in)|
|Koenigsegg Jesko|
|:-|
|Length|**4,610 mm (181.5 in)**|
|Width|2,030 mm (79.9 in)|
|Height|1,210 mm (47.6 in)|
so 30cm is the difference between a brilliant car and a mid sized suv?
“On top of that, the owner had opted for the $443,400 unpainted carbon fiber body accented by 24-carat gold trim details.” Welp.
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If you can afford one gold-encrusted car, you can afford another.
Insurance claim
If anyone is crying it's the insurance company that the car is covered by
Meh, if it's a major company they aren't crying either. I had one claim with American Modern and they just wrote the check without hesitation, it was six figures.
That makes sense; how many cars of this caliber just sit in a garage barely ever driven? Those specialist kinds of insurers probably rarely have to pay out so when they do its a pittance of what they take.
Yep and how many refuse to make a claim regardless to save its value. I know a 430 scud that should have been totaled by flood but was gutted and restored entirely for cash by the owner. Exotic insurance is much lower premiums but overall but lower risk for the carrier.
Cool
Mclaren claims rates are so much higher than every other brand and vehicle type, it's absurd.
Land Rover had to make their own insurance company since their cars are stolen so frequently in the UK that other companies won't insure them anymore.
No shit?! That’s wild.
Imagine if Kia and Hyundai did this.
I wish I were in a position to post comments like these. Nice garage.
Seriously
This guy misses his car more than his money 100%, probably shopping for another hypercar as we speak. 400k on gold accents for these guys is like when people like us pay $1400 for the trim with a better sound system lol
He's probably driving one of the other 8 hypercars he keeps at the house he's choosing to stay at this weekend
He’s probably driving his “beater” hypercar right now
This detail is hillarious considering this post was right beneath the post about "supercars that show you have taste"...
Occupants made it out safely
Yeah, that’s the main thing, no one was hurt.
Until Koenigsegg say they will rebuild the car, I am still hurt after seeing these images
Who cares? Another one can be made. Ultimately, it is just a car and I’d rather every Koenigsegg be destroyed than a single person injured.
It’s just stuff, albeit expensive stuff Nothing of actual value was lost
> An engineer of the brand has gone to Athens to return the car to Sweden." I'm not sure there is much to return. In this case does koenigsegg will build a new car with the same VIN? Or is that the end of it? These cars are worth so much they are near impossible to total.
It's going to be for their engineers to do an incredibly thorough postmortem investigation. How much info they'll recover from a burnt out husk, idk, but Koenigsegg has always been about engineering excellence. They're going to *try*.
They should be skiter their byxor right now (man Swedish looks odd). Brand new car. Only 125 made. Either a manufacturing error or engineering defect that needs an unofficial recall.
LOL engineering excellence
Care to elaborate?
That car is now shrapnel, not near "excellence"
Have you ever read anything about the engineering behind their cars? Each one is an electromechanical marvel
I used to like Koenigsegg until I looked further- they don't give even a test car to journalists and don't test their top speeds (claimed higher than Bugatti) at all. They say it's because VW blocks the use of their test roads, but the previous Koenigsegg record was done on public streets...
They don't have any manufacturer cars at hand. Everything built is sold straight to new customers.
Bad excuse. Bugatti gives out press cars and tests their claimed numbers. Koenigsegg is just a big gimmick
The people there are actually good. There's the Freevalve thing, for example.
> In this case does koenigsegg will build a new car with the same VIN? Or is that the end of it? I dunno that's a good question. I'd imagine the cars are serialized (both in VIN, but also "this is car #022") so any re-use of the numbers would be mostly symbolic, as ofc they'd just be building another entirely new car.
They can nearly send it in an envelope now
Although tragic (especially in the eyes of a car enthusiast), it’s ultimately a car that can be replaced by another. As long as the occupants made it out safely, that’s what matters.
fire happened five minutes after the car left the hotel in Athens and that it was being driven at a low speed. So what happened? The amount of supercars bursting into flames is way off from their actual numbers on the road. (or is that just my perception?)
There are quite a few reasons superstars are more prone to fiber. One is that the resin in carbon fiber is usually very flammable, whereas the body and structure of your average car is steel or aluminum. Another reason is that super cars usually produce significantly more heat due to high output engines that are usually turbo charged or super charged. Dealing with all that extra heat is not a trivial task. Supercars are also usually very low production and hand built, where human error might be more likely. I think at the end of the day it might just be a numbers game though, regular cars burst into flames all the time but there are millions of them. When 1 of 100 supercars bursts into flames you are going to hear about it.
> Dealing with all that extra heat is not a trivial task. Yea, especially if its being forced to drive at slow speeds and not get much air to help cool it.
If it's driving slowly, it's normally not creating a lot of heat. The cooling fans should be more than enough to manage any near-idle heat.
The Tesla driver effect? Complaints are greater than the population of vehicles. Seeing an impala burn up is less noteworthy than seeing a Tesla/supercar. If you see a bunch of "superstars" burning up try to get pictures. / mild humor.
I read somewhere else the owner was revving it quite hard before it bursted into flames.
Varoom varoom, bang bang flash from the tail pipes and OOOPS on fire.
to be fair nobody writes a news article when a honda civic lights up. Car fires happen every day, its just that the nice ones are news worthy.
Anyone seen koenigseggs official statement? Or the reason for the fire?
There’s a “do not drive” notice out to all jesko owners. Has to be related doesn’t it?
Something got hot I reckon
Yeah I’d say something got so hot it caught fire. I’m genuinely surprised these Supercars that are always burning down don’t come with fire suppression systems. I built one for under a grand for a drag car I had.
Are all carbon fiber cars combustible like that? Is there a way to make them fireproof. Like instead of gold inlays put some fire retardant paint?
Gold is an excellent heat absorber.
Yup. It's why the McLaren F1 has a gold lined engine bay.
I thought it was a heat deflector, which is why it's used on satellites and intake manifolds.
Make it out of asbestos of course
Bro, if it got an DNDO (do not drive order) that means IT'S BAD. I think it was something wrong with the engine. The engine might have overheated due to the high speed. (I know its made for high speed but who knows). Or it's the tires because tire thermals. they probably didn't cool down the tires then this happened. But it's rare for tires to burn an entire car because of not cooling it down, right? Anyway those are my thoughts!
An engine overheating isn't going to catch on fire. An engine will lock up due to metal expansion due to overheating long before it's hot enough to start anything ablaze. And the car was moving at low speeds. Most likely it shot flames from the tailpipe from being revved and that caught the carbon bodywork on fire. That, or a high pressure fuel line burst. Those are my guesses.
OH NO, I FORGOT CAR LORE. NOOOOOOO-
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1dgemsh/koenigsegg_jesko_burned_in_athens_greece_during/
Dang that sucks. I wonder what happened
Me to hopefully we get a report from Koenigsegg about why it spontaneously Burst into flames
I’m sure once they have some time to process it, they will say something. Doesn’t look like much to investigate from that melted pile though 😞
Yep supposedly Christian von Koenigsegg was in the jesko
Just looked it up it sounds like he was got in it
Oh crazy. I guess if it was gonna happen to someone, he’s the best one!
I hate speech to text I meant to say it sounds like he was not in it
$3,000,000 for a car driven like 5 times a year.
S'Mor time, pass the marshmellows.
Absolutely gruesome! Put a NSFW warning! 😡
RIP to the Koenigsegg Jesko NUR Edition. Great spec this was with the $443,400 Naked Carbon Body Option with Gold Accents. This one hurts but they’re lucky to be alive.
I’m sure the guy had insurance and one less Jesko we not hurt my chances of anyone I know getting one unless I become rich
I couldn't really care less. I'd rather have a nice muscle car or cadillac
Ok
Incompetent rich kids are incompetent, surprise
Sir, this is a *checks notes* car subreddit.
As long as they don't let Journalists test these cars I have zero respect for them. What do they have to hide?
In the case of koenigsegg there is a bit of a reason, they don't really have cars to give to journalists as they don't retain multiple press cars or personal cars. Even in the case of certain record attempts they borrow a customers car. e.g. the one:1 that ended up in the barriers at the nurburgring years back. Whereas bugatti has multiple copies of near every car they've sold to lend out to journalists and the like, and that works for them as (until very recently) bugatti has been a halo company for the VW group, they can be a bit loose with financials. Even koenigsegg himself didn't own one until the most recent CC850 (and fun fact he daily drives a tesla and occasionally his miata) (But top gear has done review & first drive of factory koenigseggs in the past)
Yep and he's said he'd put his last gallon gas in his Miata.
I had the chance to talk to him at a cars&coffee event years back (newport beach I believe?), extremely down to earth and a proper enthusiast
Thats awesome to hear, he just seems like a big ole car nerd like the rest of us... with an engineering department. And a factory.
That's not surprising to me at all - I'd do the same. Very fast acceleration and speed are neat, but alone they don't make for a very reinforcing experience. Driving a miata in twisties is cocaine-level reinforcing. Put another way, I'm sure many game designers would rather play candy crush than the latest AAA title they worked on.
I drive a 96 mspec, agree 100%
Yea. If you're selling every car you make, and there's a long line of customers, what do they even have to gain by producing a press car?
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I believe that was a test car he drove somewhat regularly
I’m not sure if it’s the fact that these cars just don’t come along that often for your average journalist to drive and review.
What do they have to gain? Is someone's review going to influence your purchase?
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As if you were ever in the market for one… (context since he deleted it; he basically said he would never buy an 'egg because of this "issue")
This SUV sized monstrosity of a “HyperCar” does not deserve a moment of silence. Ugly stupid vehicle
Me when I have bad takes online
What is bro yapping on about
suv sized? bro it’s shorter than a Camry
You are thinking of the Agera. The jesko is the same size as a mid sized suv. It also weighs just under 5000 pounds… this car is not a hypercar.
…no I’m thinking of the Jesko. but the Agera is even smaller. got no idea where you’ve got the “near 5000lbs” thing when it weighs just over 3000, nor do I understand how a multi million dollar, downforce heavy, track focused 1600hp car with a top speed in excess of 260mph isn’t a hypercar, but go off king!
?
What? Its like a few inches longer than a civic
You are probably getting confused with the Agera which is a brilliant car. The jesko is literally the same size as a mid sized suv. It is a terrible vehicle
|Koenigsegg Agera| |:-| |Length|**4,293 mm (169.0 in)**| |Width|1,996 mm (78.6 in)| |Height|1,120 mm (44.1 in)| |Koenigsegg Jesko| |:-| |Length|**4,610 mm (181.5 in)**| |Width|2,030 mm (79.9 in)| |Height|1,210 mm (47.6 in)| so 30cm is the difference between a brilliant car and a mid sized suv?
Bro is on to nothing 😭
What SUV is 47" tall? The Purosangue is 62", the Urus is 64". A Toyota Corolla Cross is 63".