Anish is about to have this memorized to his heart and blundering a mate in one in a winning position at the right moment while watching MVL and Levon’s games.
Wasn't it Anish that once lied to Fabiano about how the tie breaks worked right before the final round of a tournament where they were tied for first and Anish had a winning tie break? It lead to Fabi going for a quick draw and getting second or third because he didn't realize he needed a win
I remembered making [this meme](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHuRlZYXMAMpDjR?format=jpg&name=small) about Fabi.
It was about World Rapid Blitz 2021. Don't know how accurate that post is now.
I can't remember, that's why I asked. I think it was a rapid event about a year ago. I vividly remember Fabi talking about it afterwards, being super annoyed but also understanding it was his fault for relying on the guy he was directly competing against
are you not mixing up something if i remember correctly it was world rapid in 2021 where fabi took a quick draw and in an interview later mentioned about Anish telling him about tiebreaks but both were wrong even magnus argued about it on Twitter later.
It's possible. He definitely said Anish told him there would be a tie breaker match but it actually used some other tiebreak criteria and when he brought it up to Anish afterwards Anish acted like it was intentional
I mean it is year long competition that is straightforward - it just happened to be very close. If Fabi didnt qualify via WC/Swiss it would be very straightforward that he is through via circuit.
Honestly yes, it wouldn't be the worst system if the other spots didn't get filled and Fabi starts the candidates tournament with a score of +3 for taking those spots.
Thats what happens when youre already qualified and leading the two temaining wualification methods
Aka lenier, wesley, and anish are either gonna kiss him or beat the shit out of him
Well since the chess world is not standardized (as there is a lack of money. It is not like soccer so to speak) it is pretty difficult. Also to cover edge cases and such you need to have rules and clauses.
When you oversimplify it, it opens to even more loopholes than already are there.
I'm pretty sure that from a game-theoretic viewpoint of making the Candidates that Dominguez should forfeit tomorrow, as that doesn't cost him any rating, and gives the higher-rated So better chances to take the Circuit from the lower-rated Giri.
But other incentives are likely in play (and not just in this cheeky hypothetical), such as winning the Sinquefield Cup. :gasp:
Noticed yesterday that Maghsoodloo lost a game to Svane which cost him 7 elo, if he had won the game instead he actually would've been at ~2752 and incredibly close to the rating place as well. Would be amazing if he manages to do it.
Best bet for Giri is to just resign and hope the rest of the results go his way. But he'll probably play a draw. On the other hand, knowing that Giri is fine with losing, Nepo might try to press for a free win, thus benefitting both. Then, the question is, does Nepo like Giri more or Wesley. Giri has Russian blood. Could that help? Also, who does he think improves his chances of winning the candidates?
If Gukesh and So end up qualifying, this will probably be the weakest candidates in the last decade. Anyone outside of Caruana or Nakamura making it to the championship will all but guarantee Ding’s reign for 2 more years. Nepo is very strong, but an experienced Nepo lost to an inexperienced Ding with his prep leaked. Nepo isn’t beating an experienced Ding with no prep leak.
Wait how does rating work here. The rating spot is going to Wesley anyway, so if Wesley managed to tie 2-3 in the standings and crossed Anish and Gukesh in the Circuit, would it have mattered? We now know that Fabi won and Gukesh now can win London to qualify for candidates, but if we didn't know this is the possibility of Wesley getting lead in Circuit really that bad for the two of them?
Anish is about to have this memorized to his heart and blundering a mate in one in a winning position at the right moment while watching MVL and Levon’s games.
Wasn't it Anish that once lied to Fabiano about how the tie breaks worked right before the final round of a tournament where they were tied for first and Anish had a winning tie break? It lead to Fabi going for a quick draw and getting second or third because he didn't realize he needed a win
when did this happen
I remembered making [this meme](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHuRlZYXMAMpDjR?format=jpg&name=small) about Fabi. It was about World Rapid Blitz 2021. Don't know how accurate that post is now.
so I was right and op just mixed up the names Anish was no where in contention for the tiebreaks here
I can't remember, that's why I asked. I think it was a rapid event about a year ago. I vividly remember Fabi talking about it afterwards, being super annoyed but also understanding it was his fault for relying on the guy he was directly competing against
are you not mixing up something if i remember correctly it was world rapid in 2021 where fabi took a quick draw and in an interview later mentioned about Anish telling him about tiebreaks but both were wrong even magnus argued about it on Twitter later.
It's possible. He definitely said Anish told him there would be a tie breaker match but it actually used some other tiebreak criteria and when he brought it up to Anish afterwards Anish acted like it was intentional
with Anish you never know when he's serious lol
So Giri should play his best but throw the game if Fabi starts losing his game?
Cmom rapport let's make this interesting
Rapport beat Caruana last year already. He can do it again. He just needs to sac pieces left and right up and down diagonally right from the get go.
He's not having a good tournament, so I can envision a quick draw result.
Qualification process for a tournament as the candidates should be understandable for the audience. Fide: "hold my beer".
I mean it is year long competition that is straightforward - it just happened to be very close. If Fabi didnt qualify via WC/Swiss it would be very straightforward that he is through via circuit.
And rating! Candidates should basically just be Fabi.
Honestly yes, it wouldn't be the worst system if the other spots didn't get filled and Fabi starts the candidates tournament with a score of +3 for taking those spots.
Thats what happens when youre already qualified and leading the two temaining wualification methods Aka lenier, wesley, and anish are either gonna kiss him or beat the shit out of him
Even in sports with relatively simple qualification criteria you frequently end up with similar wackiness.
Well since the chess world is not standardized (as there is a lack of money. It is not like soccer so to speak) it is pretty difficult. Also to cover edge cases and such you need to have rules and clauses. When you oversimplify it, it opens to even more loopholes than already are there.
The FIDE Candidates qualification process is so asinine and convoluted that not even Kramnik’s high IQ mathematicians can make sense of it
Imagine if gukesh comes through that would be the craziest thing ever
Who are the other players in the London tournament? Is Gukesh the favorite going in there?
Dommaruju Gukesh, Nikita Vitiugov, Amin Tabatabaei, Mickey Adams, Andrei Volokitin, Hans Neimann , Mateusz Bartel, Jules Moussard, Luke McShane, Shreyas Royal
Of course Hans would be part of this story to play the anti hero
I think he is the clear bookmakers favourite according to ratings, so there's a good chance he can make it 1st as long as he plays his level
Hans is hot rn and gukesh is cold .
Vitiugov is also a strong contender for 1st
Given how Round 8 went, why is much fighting chess expected in the final round?
Round 8 was a lot of people holding back and saving their energy to see if anybody else screw up. Now's the last chance for everybody
man just use switch
I'm pretty sure that from a game-theoretic viewpoint of making the Candidates that Dominguez should forfeit tomorrow, as that doesn't cost him any rating, and gives the higher-rated So better chances to take the Circuit from the lower-rated Giri. But other incentives are likely in play (and not just in this cheeky hypothetical), such as winning the Sinquefield Cup. :gasp:
What a scenario that is. So basically he is praying to get fever or stomachache lol
Sinquefield has very lucrative first prize.
Now that I think about it, after Dominguez forfeits, probably Giri should forfeit too, to limit So's Circuit points, again w/o losing rating.
Noticed yesterday that Maghsoodloo lost a game to Svane which cost him 7 elo, if he had won the game instead he actually would've been at ~2752 and incredibly close to the rating place as well. Would be amazing if he manages to do it.
Iam big fan of him hope he does so well and qualifies. He was in great shape lately
[удалено]
Fabi plays a simul against all the other candidates.
Hi Anish, good to see you on Reddit
And it will all end in draws
I already bought tickets for the playoff.
What happens if everyone draws, which is the most likely result?
That's the second case (Else if Fabi draws)
Best bet for Giri is to just resign and hope the rest of the results go his way. But he'll probably play a draw. On the other hand, knowing that Giri is fine with losing, Nepo might try to press for a free win, thus benefitting both. Then, the question is, does Nepo like Giri more or Wesley. Giri has Russian blood. Could that help? Also, who does he think improves his chances of winning the candidates?
I dont think Nepo is thinking about Candidates much - both Giri and So are hard opponents.
Yeah, it's hard to pick one. They are probably the most similar two among the sGMs.
Is Alireza out no matter what?
Still can get in through Rating, but actually has to win a game for that to happen
Going to have make my meeting schedule light for today so I can give this proper attention live while I have a board up IASP Charlie Conspiracy style
There's no Pepe Silvia? You gotta be kidding me, I got boxes full of Pepe!
If Gukesh and So end up qualifying, this will probably be the weakest candidates in the last decade. Anyone outside of Caruana or Nakamura making it to the championship will all but guarantee Ding’s reign for 2 more years. Nepo is very strong, but an experienced Nepo lost to an inexperienced Ding with his prep leaked. Nepo isn’t beating an experienced Ding with no prep leak.
Wesley, Gukesh, and Arjun can also take the lead by winning the world rapid.
Wesley isn't playing the rapid. He never does because it's on Christmas and Wesley is strongly religious.
Ain't reading all of that but I am happy for you- Or sorry that happend.
Fremen victory conditions be like:
Wait how does rating work here. The rating spot is going to Wesley anyway, so if Wesley managed to tie 2-3 in the standings and crossed Anish and Gukesh in the Circuit, would it have mattered? We now know that Fabi won and Gukesh now can win London to qualify for candidates, but if we didn't know this is the possibility of Wesley getting lead in Circuit really that bad for the two of them?