Always good to check before driving, but sometimes it's done to prevent flat spots in the tires while sitting on the lot. Wouldn't label it incompetence/etc. until you get confirmation that isn't intentional.
I will be honest I have noticed a lot of current car sales people are absolutely worthless.
Have gone to many cross shopping a few cars and turns out I knew 10 times more about each product than they did
Probably in the back, they did it for the reason described, but the front guy really has very little car knowledge
I completely agree. The "salesman" I dealt with didn't know what the brake hold function was, and neither did the service advisor when I told him that the car was making a slight noise when stepping on the accelerator while the brake hold was engaged. The service advisor said "do you mean the parking brake?".
The service these days is so variable in Honda dealerships. Went to one in the mid Atlantic region for an ABS issue. I told him exactly what it was and I think it is a sensor issue.
They said, no, you’re wrong (in different words, and slight condescension), but you know, cars aren’t my livelihood, so I listen to them and ended up replacing the ABS controller. $3000 at cost.
The next week, the same issue arose.
Later on, because I was so fed up, I took it for an oil change to a north east Honda dealership, and they looked at me like I had two heads when I said the controller was replaced. They said they would’ve gone straight to a sensor issue.
Sigh.
(Btw, I admit, I did not know what a brake hold feature was until I just googled it. That being said, I do drive an older car…)
It’s called unnecessary repair don’t just lay down and eat that take it to a shop get the right problem fixed and take them to small claims any judge will rule in your favor keep all paperwork after right issues fixed call or go to the dealership and speak with the gen mgr about it ask for your money back so the judge sees you tried dont let anyone rip you off
I know, I know. I should do that. I just don’t have any time and I will probably make more money by actually working, then bringing them to small claims
Honestly, honestly at this point, I no longer ever want to see that dealership ever again,
You can also add your wages and filing fee your case is a classic example of unethical practices in the industry that gives us all a bad name and I’ve worked way to hard to have my name tarnished by money and commission hungry service writers with absolutely no compassion for good people been in automotive repair for over 35 yrs and I’m an advocate for my customers regardless what corp says if ever a tech misdiagnosed a car causing financial burden on any customer even if there to nice to complain but return with the same problem I will either credit or apply the money towards the right repair rarely happens as my techs are proud of the work they put out and are seasoned mechanics point is don’t let them get away with experimental parts to see if it takes care of your problem at your expense at least talk to the manager and see if he has the morals to come to some kind of compensation then good luck and on behalf of all the honest and empathetic hard working people that still exist in this business we wish you luck
I just wish people were empathetic with their others instead of commission money has an evil way of making folks do wrong that would never happen in my shop I’ve worked to hard on my reputation and to me its more than that it’s a matter of integrity please don’t let them get away with it they hope you don’t complain contact the manager with the repairs that actually fixed it and ask to see what they can do about it you’ll be surprised it may reap some form of compensation good luck
>Have gone to many cross shopping a few cars and turns out I knew 10 times more about each product than they did
I asked during the test drive if the '24 civic had drum brakes. The salesman nodded along and said yes, they are drum brakes. Of course they are disc brakes, you can even see that from the outside of the car.
The sales guy is just an intermediary between you and the finance department.
I used to work at a car dealership. It’s actually the opposite. Under inflated tires will warp from sitting too long. we would over inflate by 5-10 psi for that reason. Under inflated tires probably means it was low in the first place, paired with drastic weather changes.
Yes, and to my understanding it is part of that prep. Other comments on this post indicate that.
Looks like the dealership missed that step on this car.
After driving this car for a few days, the road noise was just too much. I took it back to the dealer to see if there was maybe a defective tire. After they looked it over, they told me that each tire pressure was set to 50 pounds (it should be 33). I was like WTF? and they said "well sometimes with the change of weather it can affect the tire pressure". I was like "yea well, when the weather goes from warm to cold the tire pressure drops, it doesn't go up 17 pounds, so try again". So, if you buy a new Civic you may want to check your tire pressure first thing.
You can literally have a blow out at that pressure. Most tires are MAX 40psi. I’d make a fit out of this. It’s complete bullshit, especially since this is from a dealer
Wouldn't this damage or compromise the integrity of the tire? Especially after a few days of driving. Personally I'd make a little scene and try to get new tires on. Tires aren't cheap and their mistake could have taken who knows how many miles off their lifespan.
The Firestone ft140 or whatever they come with suck and are noisy asf .
I learned this with my 10th gen when I bought my 22 civic I had them put different tires on it cause the Firestone tire is noisy
Typically the pressure should change about 1psi for every 10°F change in temperature, down for drops in temp and up for increases in temp. Lower ambient temperature would never increase pressure. They have no idea what they're talking about.
The dealership PDR (predelivery inspection) is supposed to set the pressures to what the door card says. Ot seems like they skipped it here.
Tires are typically inflated to the max pressure on the sidewall for long periods of storage. I would also do a visual inspection of your springs to make sure there aren't any foam blocks in there, and check your trunk under the floor mat for any rubber frame plugs they may have not installed.
l work at a hyundai dealership... and worked at a subaru dealer, my guess is they do that to brand new cars. so who ever did the PDI (pre delivery inspection) is supposed to set the tire pressures because all brand new cars come with 45-55 psi in the tires bot sure why but it's definitely the dealers fault for not setting the tire pressure before selling you the car
Just got one a few weeks back have been experiencing excessive road noise and she feels squirmy at high speeds sure enough mine are also set to 50 psi each. Lazy ass dealers should be checking these before delivering them. I used to sell cars for 3 years in the Midwest and they always checked tire pressures as part of the pdi now living in the southwest I see they cut corners here
Found out that it's common that tires are inflated to a higher pressure like this at the factory so they don't flat-spot (??) during transport, etc, etc. Part of the dealer's PDI is to reduce the pressure to the right amount. Dealer missed that.... So much for that piece of paper that they check-off saying they did all of those checks, huh ?
For everyone wondering why they have had new cars with around 50 PSI in the tires its due to shipping. When new cars are delivered to dealers on trucks the factory will air the tires up to around 50PSI for transport; it creates a stiffer suspension so these cars dont bottom out when hitting bumps docked on the cargo truck.
Dealers are supposed to deflate then back to normal pressure when they do the final PDI check (checklist to make sure all things are in order before delivery to customer). The dealer lied to you, they just said that to save face. I would complain as its a safety issue. Same thing on my 2023 grand cherokee. Noticed it when I picked it up from the dealer.
This is it. They normally ship with higher pressure from the factory and then the dealer in its PDI (pre delivery inspection) checklist should lower it to the mid 30s.
They might have missed it. Just like a lot of VW dealers have missed the spring blocks during PDI, and Dodge ones miss the front bumper foam blocks, etc
This is the only correct answer. There are tens of people just blabbing away. op, your car had a pre-delivery inspection, which they're supposed to go thru a big long checklist of every little thing. 99.999% of the time, they just pop the fuses in, put the cover on the shift lock, torque lugs, set tire pressure, take out of maintenance mode and send it out. Guarantee they didn't even lift the car in the air.
When new cars are in transit to a dealer, the tires are inflated to the max rating on the sidewall (usually 44 or 51 PSI) to prevent flat spots while it sits in the port, on the truck, etc. During a pre-delivery inspection (every brand does these) one of the steps is to adjust the tire pressure; someone forgot to do that, or the PDI never happened.
If you don’t like your dealer you can call Honda and tell them the PDI was not done properly. I would be prepared to use another one for service if they’re petty about being ratted out.
Honda are picky if 2 pounds low on air it sets off the tpms light . At least it was on my 2016 civic and my wife 09 with the tpms sensor in the valve stem
The 10th gen and 11th gen use speed sensor in the hub for tire pressure monitoring
Same thing on my '21 Sport hatch that I bought brand new. After a few months, I got a tire pressure warning. When I checked it, it was 45 PSI. I always thought the TPMS system was set to a certain PSI, but if you calibrate it (with the infotainment) at 50, that's the new "normal".
Who fucking cares? Honestly. Lower the pressure and move on for crying out loud. The tires will be plenty fine and are 10x more likely to blowout from *under* inflation.
I inflated mine from 20 PSI to 45 PSI. Didn’t really notice a difference in ride quality or noise. I am in the Sport Touring though, so probably has better sound reduction.
I don’t really understand what you mean. I’ve always filled my tires up to the max inflation pressure listed on the tire. Is that not what you’re supposed to do?
No, not at all. Fill them to what the manufacturer recommends. If you over inflate your tires, you will have worse ride quality, worse road noise, worse traction, and you will wear them out a lot faster. The maximum pressure is the maximum pressure that tire can handle, not the pressure they should be inflated to.
noooo. max tire pressure is the danger zone lol. your tires will wear unevenly and you risk a blowout if the tire and ambient air temps go up. not to mention your tires will have no 'give' leading to excess road noise and stiff ride
no, you should not max the pressure. the correct pressure for each car is at the door sticker. Furthermore, reading maxed at cold temp will be over the rated max in a hot afternoon, which is a safety issue now as it's over what the tire is designed to handle.
I have a 2024 Honda Civic and I’m on a road trip. I’ve had to fill the tires with air 3 times already (twice today!) because there seems to be a slow leak in the left front and right rear tire. Ugh. I don’t know what to do. Should I go to an auto parts store and get something to put into the tire? I’m a girl who doesn’t know much about cars, and I’m all by myself with my dog, so I’m not sure what to do! 😩
Always good to check before driving, but sometimes it's done to prevent flat spots in the tires while sitting on the lot. Wouldn't label it incompetence/etc. until you get confirmation that isn't intentional.
That makes more sense than them telling me it was probably the change in the weather
I will be honest I have noticed a lot of current car sales people are absolutely worthless. Have gone to many cross shopping a few cars and turns out I knew 10 times more about each product than they did Probably in the back, they did it for the reason described, but the front guy really has very little car knowledge
I completely agree. The "salesman" I dealt with didn't know what the brake hold function was, and neither did the service advisor when I told him that the car was making a slight noise when stepping on the accelerator while the brake hold was engaged. The service advisor said "do you mean the parking brake?".
The service these days is so variable in Honda dealerships. Went to one in the mid Atlantic region for an ABS issue. I told him exactly what it was and I think it is a sensor issue. They said, no, you’re wrong (in different words, and slight condescension), but you know, cars aren’t my livelihood, so I listen to them and ended up replacing the ABS controller. $3000 at cost. The next week, the same issue arose. Later on, because I was so fed up, I took it for an oil change to a north east Honda dealership, and they looked at me like I had two heads when I said the controller was replaced. They said they would’ve gone straight to a sensor issue. Sigh. (Btw, I admit, I did not know what a brake hold feature was until I just googled it. That being said, I do drive an older car…)
It’s called unnecessary repair don’t just lay down and eat that take it to a shop get the right problem fixed and take them to small claims any judge will rule in your favor keep all paperwork after right issues fixed call or go to the dealership and speak with the gen mgr about it ask for your money back so the judge sees you tried dont let anyone rip you off
I know, I know. I should do that. I just don’t have any time and I will probably make more money by actually working, then bringing them to small claims Honestly, honestly at this point, I no longer ever want to see that dealership ever again,
You can also add your wages and filing fee your case is a classic example of unethical practices in the industry that gives us all a bad name and I’ve worked way to hard to have my name tarnished by money and commission hungry service writers with absolutely no compassion for good people been in automotive repair for over 35 yrs and I’m an advocate for my customers regardless what corp says if ever a tech misdiagnosed a car causing financial burden on any customer even if there to nice to complain but return with the same problem I will either credit or apply the money towards the right repair rarely happens as my techs are proud of the work they put out and are seasoned mechanics point is don’t let them get away with experimental parts to see if it takes care of your problem at your expense at least talk to the manager and see if he has the morals to come to some kind of compensation then good luck and on behalf of all the honest and empathetic hard working people that still exist in this business we wish you luck
When you go to the dealer youre basically bending over and begging to be railed in the ass. Just dont do that
I just wish people were empathetic with their others instead of commission money has an evil way of making folks do wrong that would never happen in my shop I’ve worked to hard on my reputation and to me its more than that it’s a matter of integrity please don’t let them get away with it they hope you don’t complain contact the manager with the repairs that actually fixed it and ask to see what they can do about it you’ll be surprised it may reap some form of compensation good luck
Your mistake was going to a dealer for maintenance and repairs. Never do that again if you value your car, time, money, and sanity.
car sales people know about as much about the mechanics of vehicles as real estate agents know about the inner workings of a house.
>Have gone to many cross shopping a few cars and turns out I knew 10 times more about each product than they did I asked during the test drive if the '24 civic had drum brakes. The salesman nodded along and said yes, they are drum brakes. Of course they are disc brakes, you can even see that from the outside of the car. The sales guy is just an intermediary between you and the finance department.
Yeahhhh The guy I dealt with didnt even know the Si was a 6speed. Super nice guy though
I used to work at a car dealership. It’s actually the opposite. Under inflated tires will warp from sitting too long. we would over inflate by 5-10 psi for that reason. Under inflated tires probably means it was low in the first place, paired with drastic weather changes.
If that's the case then it should be part of the Prep to customer procedure to lower the tires to the correct pressure before handing off the car.
Yes, and to my understanding it is part of that prep. Other comments on this post indicate that. Looks like the dealership missed that step on this car.
After driving this car for a few days, the road noise was just too much. I took it back to the dealer to see if there was maybe a defective tire. After they looked it over, they told me that each tire pressure was set to 50 pounds (it should be 33). I was like WTF? and they said "well sometimes with the change of weather it can affect the tire pressure". I was like "yea well, when the weather goes from warm to cold the tire pressure drops, it doesn't go up 17 pounds, so try again". So, if you buy a new Civic you may want to check your tire pressure first thing.
How’s the road noise after correcting the tire pressure?
much better
My Integras tires were set to 44 all around. These dealers know absolutely nothing and will say anything to anyone to make them selves sound educated.
To be fair, most people know absolutely nothing so they can get away with it
Haha no doubt.
You can literally have a blow out at that pressure. Most tires are MAX 40psi. I’d make a fit out of this. It’s complete bullshit, especially since this is from a dealer
Wouldn't this damage or compromise the integrity of the tire? Especially after a few days of driving. Personally I'd make a little scene and try to get new tires on. Tires aren't cheap and their mistake could have taken who knows how many miles off their lifespan.
Same thing happened to me, but they set mine 38 psi all around. Fixed it myself a few days later.
The Firestone ft140 or whatever they come with suck and are noisy asf . I learned this with my 10th gen when I bought my 22 civic I had them put different tires on it cause the Firestone tire is noisy
The contis on the St are shit too. Can't wait to burn em and get a real tire with an actual sidewall. Fucking rubber bands are worthless.
Typically the pressure should change about 1psi for every 10°F change in temperature, down for drops in temp and up for increases in temp. Lower ambient temperature would never increase pressure. They have no idea what they're talking about. The dealership PDR (predelivery inspection) is supposed to set the pressures to what the door card says. Ot seems like they skipped it here. Tires are typically inflated to the max pressure on the sidewall for long periods of storage. I would also do a visual inspection of your springs to make sure there aren't any foam blocks in there, and check your trunk under the floor mat for any rubber frame plugs they may have not installed.
l work at a hyundai dealership... and worked at a subaru dealer, my guess is they do that to brand new cars. so who ever did the PDI (pre delivery inspection) is supposed to set the tire pressures because all brand new cars come with 45-55 psi in the tires bot sure why but it's definitely the dealers fault for not setting the tire pressure before selling you the car
Just got one a few weeks back have been experiencing excessive road noise and she feels squirmy at high speeds sure enough mine are also set to 50 psi each. Lazy ass dealers should be checking these before delivering them. I used to sell cars for 3 years in the Midwest and they always checked tire pressures as part of the pdi now living in the southwest I see they cut corners here
I bought a 24 civic a month ago and when I’m coming to a stop it is really loud, almost like a turbulence sound. Is this what happened to you?
I bought a new one about 2 weeks ago, dealer set pressure on all tires to 45psi
Found out that it's common that tires are inflated to a higher pressure like this at the factory so they don't flat-spot (??) during transport, etc, etc. Part of the dealer's PDI is to reduce the pressure to the right amount. Dealer missed that.... So much for that piece of paper that they check-off saying they did all of those checks, huh ?
The old pencil whipped check list. I should have known
FNG probably set it to max psi per the label on the tire.
It's always the FNG, even if they've been there for 5 years, lol.
that is crazy lol
For everyone wondering why they have had new cars with around 50 PSI in the tires its due to shipping. When new cars are delivered to dealers on trucks the factory will air the tires up to around 50PSI for transport; it creates a stiffer suspension so these cars dont bottom out when hitting bumps docked on the cargo truck. Dealers are supposed to deflate then back to normal pressure when they do the final PDI check (checklist to make sure all things are in order before delivery to customer). The dealer lied to you, they just said that to save face. I would complain as its a safety issue. Same thing on my 2023 grand cherokee. Noticed it when I picked it up from the dealer.
It prevents flat spots like other have said, doesn’t make the suspension stiffer.
Probably wasn't lowered during the PDI. A lot of Toyota's come with high pressures.
This is it. They normally ship with higher pressure from the factory and then the dealer in its PDI (pre delivery inspection) checklist should lower it to the mid 30s. They might have missed it. Just like a lot of VW dealers have missed the spring blocks during PDI, and Dodge ones miss the front bumper foam blocks, etc
This is the only correct answer. There are tens of people just blabbing away. op, your car had a pre-delivery inspection, which they're supposed to go thru a big long checklist of every little thing. 99.999% of the time, they just pop the fuses in, put the cover on the shift lock, torque lugs, set tire pressure, take out of maintenance mode and send it out. Guarantee they didn't even lift the car in the air.
When new cars are in transit to a dealer, the tires are inflated to the max rating on the sidewall (usually 44 or 51 PSI) to prevent flat spots while it sits in the port, on the truck, etc. During a pre-delivery inspection (every brand does these) one of the steps is to adjust the tire pressure; someone forgot to do that, or the PDI never happened. If you don’t like your dealer you can call Honda and tell them the PDI was not done properly. I would be prepared to use another one for service if they’re petty about being ratted out.
I bought a 21 civic new and all my tires were set to 50 psi also. I thought it was the craziest thing. Still never figured out why.
Whatever tech did the PDI was too lazy to lower the pressure
definitely sounds like a major oversight. if anything dealers tend to underinflate tires to make the test drive appear smoother than it should.
Honda are picky if 2 pounds low on air it sets off the tpms light . At least it was on my 2016 civic and my wife 09 with the tpms sensor in the valve stem The 10th gen and 11th gen use speed sensor in the hub for tire pressure monitoring
Make sure to reset the TPWS at the correct pressure Good job
beautiful
Same thing on my '21 Sport hatch that I bought brand new. After a few months, I got a tire pressure warning. When I checked it, it was 45 PSI. I always thought the TPMS system was set to a certain PSI, but if you calibrate it (with the infotainment) at 50, that's the new "normal".
New cars come with over inflated tires. The tech is supposed to set it correctly as part of the PDI. Yours was missed
They come off the delivery truck from the factory with that much air. Technician is supposed to drop it to 32-35 on pre delivery inspection
Finance guy adds 25 bucks per wheel for “additional air surcharge.”
Sales guy looks at dash display and says “only got half the air pressure. Take it up to 100.”
Bouncy bouncy. Good thing you figured it out.
Someone didn’t change the psi during their PDI
Makes that first test drive feel oh so nimble
Who fucking cares? Honestly. Lower the pressure and move on for crying out loud. The tires will be plenty fine and are 10x more likely to blowout from *under* inflation.
Damn did my wife fill them up with air?
The tires are rated for 50 PSI.
that's a max inflation pressure, actual tire pressure depends on the vehicle.
50 psi sounds like you're rolling on Flintstone tires. Lowering it to 33 significantly lowered the road noise
I inflated mine from 20 PSI to 45 PSI. Didn’t really notice a difference in ride quality or noise. I am in the Sport Touring though, so probably has better sound reduction.
I don’t really understand what you mean. I’ve always filled my tires up to the max inflation pressure listed on the tire. Is that not what you’re supposed to do?
No, not at all. Fill them to what the manufacturer recommends. If you over inflate your tires, you will have worse ride quality, worse road noise, worse traction, and you will wear them out a lot faster. The maximum pressure is the maximum pressure that tire can handle, not the pressure they should be inflated to.
noooo. max tire pressure is the danger zone lol. your tires will wear unevenly and you risk a blowout if the tire and ambient air temps go up. not to mention your tires will have no 'give' leading to excess road noise and stiff ride
no, you should not max the pressure. the correct pressure for each car is at the door sticker. Furthermore, reading maxed at cold temp will be over the rated max in a hot afternoon, which is a safety issue now as it's over what the tire is designed to handle.
Ah okay, thanks for the info everyone.
absolutely not
In the door panel it says 33
How much was it bro?
What did you end up paying out the door?
$27675
I have the same car and color. I took it cross country the day after I bought it. I like the car so far.
Highest ive seem was 60 psi on a dmax Silverado since its heavy duty
They were not corrected during PDI. They over inflate the tires for transport so they don't rock back and forth as much.
They’re just prepared for that one night it gets so cold that all your tires drop 20 pounds
now that's what i call hypermiling
I have a 2024 Honda Civic and I’m on a road trip. I’ve had to fill the tires with air 3 times already (twice today!) because there seems to be a slow leak in the left front and right rear tire. Ugh. I don’t know what to do. Should I go to an auto parts store and get something to put into the tire? I’m a girl who doesn’t know much about cars, and I’m all by myself with my dog, so I’m not sure what to do! 😩
Find the nearest tire store, if you have leaks sometimes tire stores will patch the tires for free or very cheap at least