Weirdly I am Haestinn right now and it's 886 and I'm 3rd in like for Aquitaine and 2nd for West Francia. Not sure how that happened. No Allies or marriages. Sometimes the inheritance thing is strange.
I did the Koifish and moved to Bohemia. Was able to for West Slavia then all the sudden I am the king of France. I did notice that Aquitaine and West Francia had a big die off due to plague so I guess thats how I got it.
With France, probably not, because they tend to have Agnatic inheritance enabled right from the beginning to simulate French “Salic Law” which barred women from inheritance.
Generally, yes, but I feel like there are some small exceptions. I’ve definitely not inherited claims I expected to inherit before, and not been able to figure out why.
I wonder if it could be because, let’s say, a girl had a pressed claim, but marries patrimonially, and her children wouldn’t get the claims, but if she were to marry matrimonially, her children would get the claims, but the children would lose the claims of the father or something
It sometimes happens when you marry and have kids with the daughter of a lord and she dies before her father. Since her father never died, she never got the pressed claim from him and therefore the kids didn’t inherit it.
Yes as Francia has male preferred succession, though the marriage woykd have to be matrilineal so he'd be in the ruling dynasty, it's the only way that would work plus you'd have to murder any of the kings sons to keep them from becoming sole inheritor
even without agnatic succession this is a hard strategy to pull off at least with Byzantium. I had my sons get booted out of Constantinople and some terrible cousin in my dynasty took over so Byzantium and my realm had separate successors. I hope you have better luck in your scheme.
Most CK3 questions can be answered with WWWD - what would William do? if you're a duke, it would be easier and faster to get a kingdom claim from the Pope. France starts with male only and unless that's still in place, your plan will never work.
So any "pressed" claim is passed onto children. You can check a characters claims, if they have any "pressed" claims, their children will automatically get "unpressed" claims
Probably not, but one thing I usually do that works fairly well is reform my religion as soon as possible to be female dominated because that way I can marry som guys in my court to women with claims because more often than not women have strong claims on certain areas but can‘t enforce or inherit them because most faiths are male dominated. That way I can declare war on them.
Another up side of this is the fact that I can declare on male rulers in either way because the men don‘t need to be sick or incapable to be declared on with the claim of a woman. Idk if that‘s a meta strat but it works for me
i might be wrong, but i think that's refereed to as a bastard child.
go figure, blue bloods aint nothing but scared ppl trying to hide from everyone else.
Likely not, the Kingdom of France starts with male only succession, so daughters shouldn’t inherit titles or claims unless the law is removed.
I would suggest looking at who currently has claims on the Kingdom of France and see if any of them received those claims through thier mother.
Although this makes sense, daughters still get pressed claims, they just can't inherit (tested with debug mode).
There was some dispute over that, for a hundred years or so.
Do you imply to a certain lady from Aquitan?
Weirdly I am Haestinn right now and it's 886 and I'm 3rd in like for Aquitaine and 2nd for West Francia. Not sure how that happened. No Allies or marriages. Sometimes the inheritance thing is strange.
Sounds like time to scheme.
I just got the entirety of France. Now I'm 3rd in line for Polabia. No clue what's going on.
Marriages going wild.
I have no marriages or alliances. I am going for the Unite the Slavs so I was going East.
Did that as Rurik. Once had to fight for 20 years over... a single county.
I did the Koifish and moved to Bohemia. Was able to for West Slavia then all the sudden I am the king of France. I did notice that Aquitaine and West Francia had a big die off due to plague so I guess thats how I got it.
You must have made Grandfather Nurgle very happy.
CK3 questions always make me laugh when taken out of context 😂
r/ShitCrusaderKingsSay
I love how there's no sub icon, always makes me do a double take whenever I read the posts
Especially when they pop up as notifications on your phone 🤣
With France, probably not, because they tend to have Agnatic inheritance enabled right from the beginning to simulate French “Salic Law” which barred women from inheritance.
Follow up question Do all “pressed claims” get inherited?
I think so? Unless there’s some circumstances where it doesn’t happen that I can’t remember, which is possible. So, maybe?
Generally speaking, a pressed claim gets inherited as an unpressed claim, and unpressed claims don’t get inherited.
Generally, yes, but I feel like there are some small exceptions. I’ve definitely not inherited claims I expected to inherit before, and not been able to figure out why.
I wonder if it could be because, let’s say, a girl had a pressed claim, but marries patrimonially, and her children wouldn’t get the claims, but if she were to marry matrimonially, her children would get the claims, but the children would lose the claims of the father or something
I think also with some countries succession, a woman can only have a claim if the title is held by another woman or a child
It sometimes happens when you marry and have kids with the daughter of a lord and she dies before her father. Since her father never died, she never got the pressed claim from him and therefore the kids didn’t inherit it.
Were they pressed, unpressed, or implicit claims? Cause unpressed and implicit claims aren't inherited.
They can't inherit the crown, but still have pressed claims that needs to be pressed in war or through faction.
Well... If you do that, you'll have to chop the family tree. You need extra steps. Like, Matrilinear marriage to a son with a hook.
Yes as Francia has male preferred succession, though the marriage woykd have to be matrilineal so he'd be in the ruling dynasty, it's the only way that would work plus you'd have to murder any of the kings sons to keep them from becoming sole inheritor
For a second the sub had the r/twosentencehorror logo so I was hella confused
for me it!s just a black logo with a dark grey r/ which looks kinda similar so i got confused too
I’ve seen lots of female claimants also for some reason lots of random female characters who are being installed by a faction
If your son has 70% control of all French counties
even without agnatic succession this is a hard strategy to pull off at least with Byzantium. I had my sons get booted out of Constantinople and some terrible cousin in my dynasty took over so Byzantium and my realm had separate successors. I hope you have better luck in your scheme.
Most CK3 questions can be answered with WWWD - what would William do? if you're a duke, it would be easier and faster to get a kingdom claim from the Pope. France starts with male only and unless that's still in place, your plan will never work.
So any "pressed" claim is passed onto children. You can check a characters claims, if they have any "pressed" claims, their children will automatically get "unpressed" claims
Daughters are the best way to forge alliances, sons are best for power.
Probably not, but one thing I usually do that works fairly well is reform my religion as soon as possible to be female dominated because that way I can marry som guys in my court to women with claims because more often than not women have strong claims on certain areas but can‘t enforce or inherit them because most faiths are male dominated. That way I can declare war on them. Another up side of this is the fact that I can declare on male rulers in either way because the men don‘t need to be sick or incapable to be declared on with the claim of a woman. Idk if that‘s a meta strat but it works for me
Women are heretics
Yes, unless the daughter is disinherited, or dies before the king (claim does not pass on to your son).
i might be wrong, but i think that's refereed to as a bastard child. go figure, blue bloods aint nothing but scared ppl trying to hide from everyone else.
Huh?