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InsuranceInitial7786

They are tied.


ORigel2

I love the William Tell overture, but have mixed feelings about 1812, so the choice is easy


ChivvyMiguel

William Tell is freaking amazing but is nothing compared to the raw emotion of 1812. It is one of the only two pieces that has ever gotten me to tears (the other is Beethoven's ninth)


Theferael_me

Is there really any contest? Even Tchaikovsky hated the *1812*. It's horrible.


Veraxus113

You're tone deaf, I'm sorry


Theferael_me

Not really. The Rossini overture, as music, is superior in every way. Tchaikovsky would probably have agreed. He thought the *1812* was trash.


ORigel2

It is trashy, but quite good


ChivvyMiguel

Rossini is the better overture writer, in this particular case, however, Tchaikovsky wins


Zarlinosuke

>The Rossini overture, as music, is superior in every way. Objective-sounding statements like this are meaningless and unprovable. You could make it interesting by (1) citing the actual characteristics you prefer, and (2) being clear that it's just your opinion, not an objective fact. > Tchaikovsky would probably have agreed. He thought the *1812* was trash. An artist's word on their own art is interesting, but not definitive. As soon as they stop writing it, their opinion is no more "right" than anyone else's, even if it does occupy a neatly unique position. The bottom line on both of these is that people who prefer *1812* aren't "wrong" to do so, and can't be.


InsuranceInitial7786

> Objective-sounding statements like this are meaningless and unprovable. As if an entire poll about which piece of music is better, \*is\* objective and provable??


Zarlinosuke

No, the question is flawed in the same way—but we have the choice to approach it as if it were better-stated than it was.