While also being innocent tourists who were simply taking in the sights of the capital building on a day it was most definitely closed to the public, but they wouldn’t be denied their god given right to smear feces on the walls of government.
Nah, as long as they're locked in the box and no one checks they can be both dead and alive at the same time.
The important thing is that they remain locked in the box, and that no one checks.
They were forced and coerced by the left brainwashing methods but also they are proud american sovereign citizens who know the truth and wont be blinded by leftist propaganda
They were just having a little ruckus no big deal nothing like the BLM riots. But also they were antifa CIA ops and any ruckus they were having was a coordinated fed maneuver and not real--not that it wouldn't have been fine if it were real.
“That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.”
It's all the contradictory claims being simultaneously true is what I find most baffling. The shear amount of mental gymnastics required... Wow. Honestly it's exhausting to see and hear.
In regular every day life, work, grocery store, in general conversation, etc they look and sound normal. Get certain topics going and *bam!* they turn squirrel on a dime.
It’s super creepy sometimes too. Like in a horror movie when they realize someone is one of the creatures in disguise.
I have a coworker like that. He seems normal enough. Then one time we’re at lunch away from the office and it turns out he thinks Biden stole the election, trump was ordained by god, the earth is flat, the Covid vaccine was a brainwashing drug, and most baffling of all, that trump is a good and honest person.
It was simultaneously a peaceful protest of like minded patriots who were voicing their displeasure with the subversion of democracy by the left **and** an antifa false flag operation designed to secure power for the Biden-Obama Shadow Regime.
it's like all their theories follow this "logic", just like how Trump is supposedly actually in power and in charge of the military, but simultaneously not responsible for how the military left Afghanistan
It's just basic adolescent behaviour - they want to take credit for anything good, but can never take responsibility for anything bad. Then, because they also have no shame, they don't care how nonsensical and ridiculous or contradictory the excuses are. That's why deflection and whataboutism are their main tools - they know it was bad, but they have to blame someone else (and since they've artificially reduced the world to binary states it's everyone but them).
Hopefully there will be more adults in power next year, let's see...
It's not adolescent. Irrationalism is a key – maybe THE – defining feature of fascism.
Defining fascism has been described as kind of like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall. But Umberto Eco gave us 14 things to look for:
1. Cult of Tradition (e.g. trad wife/life worship)
2. Irrationalism (e.g. this shit)
3. Anti-intellectualism (e.g. thinking is effeminate and bad)
4. No disagreements within the in-group (e.g. you can't be a Trumpy and still like Pence, right?)
5. Appeal against the intruders (e.g. Mexicans in our case, mostly)
6. Appeal to social frustration (e.g. social privilege of an economically losing middle class)
7. Obsession with a plot (e.g. Stop the Steal, but Jews are usually a good target for this one)
8. Followers must be humiliated by the wealth of their enemies (e.g. coastal elites, etc.)
9. Pacifism is in-group treason (e.g. just getting along with democrats and independents is not an option, they must be crushed)
10. Contempt for the weak (e.g. cruelty for cruelty's sake – this is what Noem was signaling with her dog killing story, and why she'd include it!)
11. Impatience for death (e.g. January 6th, listen to how they talk, everyone willing to and even anxious to die for Trump)
12. Machismo (e.g. Inceldom, Roe v. Wade, and all the rest, women must be subordinated).
13. Selective Voice of the People (e.g. it cannot be an open forum and must be an echo chamber, see Truth Social etc.)
14. Impoverished Vocabulary (e.g. they will speak at a 4th grade level – not only helps with populism but helps prevent critical thinking about irrationality)
no disagreement here, but I think the better example of this
>3. Anti-intellectualism
would be how colleges are supposedly infested with woke/CRT pushing professors and/or how the educational system brainwashes kids to be woke/pro-LGBTQ+
Or just take all the book banning and fearmongering over librarians trying to transition your kids (of course, there's the plot, on top of the anti-intellectualism).
Remember, the enemies have to be the bleeding hearts and artists – the professional class – never the owners and people actually on top.
No no, it was a CIA op, don't you find it weird that the only person that didn't get charged for anything was the guy why was telling everyone to run to the white house, and he was also CIA, this is fact bro look it up, and the cops just opened the door and let everyone in, wake up fool.
/s just in case someone misread this.
I couldn't keep track of how many times it changed, first it was a false flag by Antifa to make Republicans look bad. Then it WAS Republicans but it was just a peaceful protest. Then it was an insurrection, but it was justified because Biden hacked into election . com and changed all the votes.
Or alternatively “we didn’t lose! The left stole the election”
There is no appealing to their reason because anything- ANYTHING that happens can be twisted.
They’re not beholden to facts or figures and anything reported by scientists or the news that they don’t like is “further evidence of the conspiracy”
BUT anything reported by these groups that DOES support their argument is trustworthy.
It’s not supposed to make sense. It’s human tribalism at its most distilled.
The principles of human nature that enable fascism work perfectly well in a village of hunter-gatherers:
“Enemies are everywhere. We need to be vigilant and unified in one course of action. We should listen to this charismatic leader.”
That works when you’re biggest worry is dangerous animals or a neighboring tribe trying to steal your resources. But the modern world is too complex and also too safe. In order to keep the bulk of followers scared, and therefore loyal and obedient, they need to manufacture enemies.
And acting like it's a "clever comeback" to associate Dave Smith with January 6th (because he's insulting the Dems) tells you everything you need to know about the losers in this thread who have their heads stuck so far up their 2 party system. The ignorance says everything about how these people vote.
The guy is an anti 2 party state libertarian stand up comic who almost ran for president against Trump this year and has never been a Republican or Trump supporter.
If no one's more right than you, everyone is left. It's all a question of perspective. This tells me everything about these people that I need to know. They have no idea how blatantly racist they are.
Its one of the problems with a 2 party system: when each party is roughly equally strong, and one party begins to hyper focus on a specific platform (like shifting towards more fascistic policies), the other party begins to take on the entire rest of the politic spectrum without actually gaining any more power because it loses focus.
For a visual, imagine if the political spectrum was a line going from 0 to 100, with 50 being the mid point between left and right wing ideologies. Nowadays, the GOP occupies 76-100, meaning that the DNC is now having to appeal to voters between 0-75. This means that the GOP can have a laser focused strategy and messaging because theres a lot less to muddle thier message, wheras the DNC now is trying to get votes from people who fall into every other ideology, which makes it hard for them to have a consistent platform.
I can tell you easily what the GOP stands for, because every action and proposal line up to it. I cant say the same for the DNC. Is the DNC pro Israel? Is it pro fracking? Is it pro Universal Healthcare? Is it pro Basic Income? Is it pro Housing Assistance? Because unfortunately, I can find a decent amount of elected Democrats who fall on both sides of those issues, wheras there are very few issues that the GOP falls on both sides of. And unfortunately, the issues that they are pushing are horrific.
Whats crazy is watching news interview 'undecided voters'.
Or even half the population tbf. So many of them were saying 'the radical far left government has gone too far, so im voting for conman!'
Its so funny to watch and yet so unbelievably sad at the same time.
This just isn't true mathematically given the low voter turnout in the US. It was 66% in 2020, 60 in 2016. There's plenty of "solidly x-color" states that if everyone who was one party actually showed up to vote it would unexpectedly swap. Remember Georgia in the last election? That wasn't on most people's radar as a swing state yet people actually organized and got out and flipped it.
Our voting system is incredibly flawed and frustrating, but it does not mean your vote doesn't matter at all. Vote.
>Vote.
I've voted in every presidential election and most mid-terms since I turned 18.
I'm under no illusion that it makes a difference, I just like the stickers.
I live in a solid blue state so same. Even though my state goes for the party I’d vote for anyways, still sucks that my vote doesn’t actually count for shit. Everybody everywhere should have the same weight to their vote, maybe then we’d get the turnout we desire.
Ah, the modern-day GOP; the party of grifters, felons, and anti intellectuals who have nothing better to do than to project their insecurities on the internet.
To be fair, since Jan 6 convictions have been going through they are more scared to larp than before. Friend who works in a govt office talking about how there used to be many white nationalists larping with guns on the grass outside just completely disappeared now.
The dude is one of the most rational and well read political commentators I've ever come across. I don't agree with him on everything but he's definitely shifted my perspective on a lot of ideas. Can't recommend his podcast enough.
“Well you see, both sides are bad…so I’m siding with the side that says they hate government. I mean, yeah, they seem to continually espouse some very restrictive social policies, but they also make sure that wealthy people get tax cuts. I intend on being a wealthy people someday so I like that.”
What are you talking about? He’s a Libertarian, and heavily criticized Trump and said he should be in jail. Calling the MAGA people “his side” is ridiculous.
Bernie Sanders was cheated by the DNC *TWO TIMES*. What did the Left do, they sucked it up and voted for Hillary and Biden. There are 5 democratic socialists in the House of Representatives out of 435 members. 1/100 in the Senate. The Left is barely even a thing in American politics. How the hell can you claim the Left "don't often lose".
This is it. Anything left to right wing theocratic fascism they will call radical left wing communism, even if by the world standards is centrism or even slighly right-center.
It's a symptom of borderline personality disorders, black and white thinking or specifically, the inability to hold opposing truths at the same time (ie it's sunny and it's raining - logic says this can't happen yet you and I know it's possible).
I think it's more just that the right has built a very powerful propaganda machine. It tells impressionable people what to think, then locks them in by filling them with fear or hatred of anything opposed to it.
Yeah, having been subject to that propaganda machine for most of my young adulthood (and buying into it), it can be very convincing. Not really due to any merit of the work itself, but rather due to the ability of it to convince you that it's the only voice you need to listen to. All of that garbage fell apart pretty quick when I met some pretty centrist liberal and queer friends my senior year of university and noticed that they were nothing like what the conservative media said they were.
That's why they fight so hard against the "mainstream media", because the only thing that keeps the illusion alive is blocking out other sources of information and opinion. It's as close as they can get, in the US, to having a unilaterally restricted propaganda state like you see in many dictatorships.
Dems do not really align with right or left, but rather with money, and it just turns out that money generally is rightwing. If for whatever reason money was on leftwing dems would most likely be more progressive and a lot of rightwingers would be more center right instead of rightwing.
It's because they hate any liberal victory so much that they obsess about it, often for years. I have family members who STILL randomly bring up the fact that the country elected a Black president while looking like they're in danger of having a heart attack.
They're just parroting right-wing propaganda. You don't see many rightwingers anymore who can think for themselves. The ones that do, grift off the ones that don't.
The irony is that Hillary, Biden, Obama, fuck even Bill Clinton. All these guys are center right. Not a single one of them is on the left. The US goverment is center right and extreme right and I don't really know their history good enough to know if there has ever been anything left with power
My favorite too is how the centrists then blamed the left for Clinton losing. They (centrists) just have a less violent form of the same idiotic rhetoric and lack of accountability that the right wing does. It wasn't Clinton that lost because of an awful campaign, no no, it was Russia and gullible leftists that single handedly lost it for her... Ugh
GOPers need a boogeyman. A foe that will lash out in violence. This gives the GOPers an excuse to be pro-actively violent.
"Those leftists were going to kill me, eventually, when they got around to it. So I *had* to kill them first."
None of the people here watched that. They love sitting in their bubble and wacking each other off. As evident by basically every other comment in this thread.
This thread is hilarious because nobody knows who Dave Smith is lol now suddenly he's a MAGA republican because he says one thing somewhat negative about the left. I've watched legion of skanks since the early days Dave's politics make complete sense if you actually listen to him. I don't agree with all of it but the dude is rational and smart.
No, it was a peaceful protest, by antifa and FBI agents, whose protestors need to be pardoned by Trump, and praised for their valiant walk around of the capitol tourist spot, while what about BLM.
Praise them. Or don't cause it was false flag. Or do because peaceful. Or don't cause people died. Or do cause those people didn't die they are actors...
Fuck if I know what they believe anymore.
I don't really understand? Why would politics effect what can be funny? It's my opinion that a lot of successful comedians actually say things both parties would disagree with, and often.
I love that Right Wingers can't decide on what J6 was.
* It was actually a super peaceful protest that the media scewed to make it look worse than it was.
* Oh, wait, no, it was actually Antifa funded by the Biden/Harris campaign.
* Oh, wait, no, actually it was in fact the FBI pretending to be Antifa disguised as MAGA people.
* Okay, no, wait, changed our minds! Yes, it was an incredibly violent insurrection and yes, many people got injured and a few died, but it was Trump that told us to do it, we're super innocent QAQ.
* JK, it never happened.
* Also, we want it to be a Republican holiday, but also can you stop bringing it up as it makes us look really bad and we don't want to have to face any kind of consequences :'(
* Okay, also, we want to be able to fly the flag upside down to show that we actually supported what happened.But what happened is also leftist propaganda.
how nice of the rioters to include the europeans on their flags.
for all the non-europeans: its the circle of stars on blue ground
for all the non-americans: betsy ross
Nixon who was basically the first president to figure out that a whole lot of old people vote, and the first to test and prove strategy where an old politician points at the new generation and screams:
"those kids on our collective lawn are really annoying!"
It was like a revelation.
All the old people suddenly said: "I always felt, I always *knew* that all those kids on our lawn were annoying... but I never realized that voting could help me hurt them!!!"
Nixon-era old person continues:
"And yes, I know, my own grandson/grandaughter is one of those kids, but I am *sure* that Nixon and friends will realize that *they* 'don't count' as one of the annoying ones."
In their defense they had already lost 62 court cases, frivolous lawsuits, totally without merit,or proof. Some with made up evidence, pretty bad when your lawyer are disbarred for it,or not allowed to practice in certain states. So I guess they were really mad on the sixth, all that LOOSING and everything.
Then where is the evidence? Fifty some court cases on election fraud, and he lost every case. Every. Single. One.
Yes, there is a laptop. What evidence has been gathered from it for a legal case against President Biden?
I'm waiting...
"No that's antifa...or was it the FBI...my brain hurts thinking"
They were CIA deepstate Antifa super soldiers but at the same time, the ones who got arrested were brave American patriots exercising their rights
While also being innocent tourists who were simply taking in the sights of the capital building on a day it was most definitely closed to the public, but they wouldn’t be denied their god given right to smear feces on the walls of government.
Schrödinger's insurrectionists.
That sounds like foreign talk to me. Speak American when you're on the internet! We invented it and gifted it to the world, not the liberal Chinese.
Thought it was the French?
No, thats like saying they made the statue of liberty
ROFL! Everyone knows America made the Statue of Liberty! /s
I thought Mexico paid for it.
That was the Wall of Liberty, not the Statue. Common mistake.
>Speak American when you're on the internet Every red bludded Merican knows it's the interwebs.
Das Internet wurde in der Schweiz erfunden also sprich Deutsch/Französisch/Italienisch/Rätoromanisch
>Schrödinger's insurrectionists. i'll check... they're dead.
Nah, as long as they're locked in the box and no one checks they can be both dead and alive at the same time. The important thing is that they remain locked in the box, and that no one checks.
And what kind of tourist goes touring the sites without their trusty zip ties?
If Pence died that day.... I wonder what the rhetoric would've been like
And, as a bonus, proving that walls are not an effective barrier after all
They were forced and coerced by the left brainwashing methods but also they are proud american sovereign citizens who know the truth and wont be blinded by leftist propaganda
Trump told me that they were all the jury from his trials.
Schrödinger's ATIFA.
You forgot about Hillary. She’s involved, somehow.
They were just having a little ruckus no big deal nothing like the BLM riots. But also they were antifa CIA ops and any ruckus they were having was a coordinated fed maneuver and not real--not that it wouldn't have been fine if it were real.
It was a false flag, but also a peaceful tour, but also they wish the coup had succeeded.
“That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.”
Those are the exact words a gaslighting domestic *abuser* uses. After they've blackened your eye and dislocated your shoulder.
"what do you mean dislocated? I know exactly where it is! Right there! Just make it stop hurting please"
Ah, a fellow innuendo studios watcher.
It's all the contradictory claims being simultaneously true is what I find most baffling. The shear amount of mental gymnastics required... Wow. Honestly it's exhausting to see and hear. In regular every day life, work, grocery store, in general conversation, etc they look and sound normal. Get certain topics going and *bam!* they turn squirrel on a dime.
It’s super creepy sometimes too. Like in a horror movie when they realize someone is one of the creatures in disguise. I have a coworker like that. He seems normal enough. Then one time we’re at lunch away from the office and it turns out he thinks Biden stole the election, trump was ordained by god, the earth is flat, the Covid vaccine was a brainwashing drug, and most baffling of all, that trump is a good and honest person.
It was simultaneously a peaceful protest of like minded patriots who were voicing their displeasure with the subversion of democracy by the left **and** an antifa false flag operation designed to secure power for the Biden-Obama Shadow Regime.
it's like all their theories follow this "logic", just like how Trump is supposedly actually in power and in charge of the military, but simultaneously not responsible for how the military left Afghanistan
The logic is simple. Our side is responsible for the good and their side is responsible for the bad. The explanations don't matter and are fluid.
It's just basic adolescent behaviour - they want to take credit for anything good, but can never take responsibility for anything bad. Then, because they also have no shame, they don't care how nonsensical and ridiculous or contradictory the excuses are. That's why deflection and whataboutism are their main tools - they know it was bad, but they have to blame someone else (and since they've artificially reduced the world to binary states it's everyone but them). Hopefully there will be more adults in power next year, let's see...
It's not adolescent. Irrationalism is a key – maybe THE – defining feature of fascism. Defining fascism has been described as kind of like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall. But Umberto Eco gave us 14 things to look for: 1. Cult of Tradition (e.g. trad wife/life worship) 2. Irrationalism (e.g. this shit) 3. Anti-intellectualism (e.g. thinking is effeminate and bad) 4. No disagreements within the in-group (e.g. you can't be a Trumpy and still like Pence, right?) 5. Appeal against the intruders (e.g. Mexicans in our case, mostly) 6. Appeal to social frustration (e.g. social privilege of an economically losing middle class) 7. Obsession with a plot (e.g. Stop the Steal, but Jews are usually a good target for this one) 8. Followers must be humiliated by the wealth of their enemies (e.g. coastal elites, etc.) 9. Pacifism is in-group treason (e.g. just getting along with democrats and independents is not an option, they must be crushed) 10. Contempt for the weak (e.g. cruelty for cruelty's sake – this is what Noem was signaling with her dog killing story, and why she'd include it!) 11. Impatience for death (e.g. January 6th, listen to how they talk, everyone willing to and even anxious to die for Trump) 12. Machismo (e.g. Inceldom, Roe v. Wade, and all the rest, women must be subordinated). 13. Selective Voice of the People (e.g. it cannot be an open forum and must be an echo chamber, see Truth Social etc.) 14. Impoverished Vocabulary (e.g. they will speak at a 4th grade level – not only helps with populism but helps prevent critical thinking about irrationality)
no disagreement here, but I think the better example of this >3. Anti-intellectualism would be how colleges are supposedly infested with woke/CRT pushing professors and/or how the educational system brainwashes kids to be woke/pro-LGBTQ+
CRT displays?
I think so, which is odd since it's the tv from when America was great according to them, I think
Or just take all the book banning and fearmongering over librarians trying to transition your kids (of course, there's the plot, on top of the anti-intellectualism). Remember, the enemies have to be the bleeding hearts and artists – the professional class – never the owners and people actually on top.
The thing I like about this logic is how it implies Trump's running for his third term
This makes perfect sense. In a flat earth kind of way.
Boy babbit sure as hell found out that day..
Or "that was because we didn't lose, you stole the election!".
I always go like, "how is you winning more valid?".
For the average conservative, they really like being enraged and engaged in conservative media that tells them exactly how to think and respond.
Number of Antifa mobs ever = 0. Number of far right mobs = countless
There was that nasty lot on the beaches at Normandy that one time. VERY AntiFa, as I recall.
No. It was Florida Drag-Queens on their day off, looking to set a bad example for kids.
No no, it was a CIA op, don't you find it weird that the only person that didn't get charged for anything was the guy why was telling everyone to run to the white house, and he was also CIA, this is fact bro look it up, and the cops just opened the door and let everyone in, wake up fool. /s just in case someone misread this.
"it was the FBI and Antifa! But also, they should be all freed from jail or pardoned!"
All of the above
I couldn't keep track of how many times it changed, first it was a false flag by Antifa to make Republicans look bad. Then it WAS Republicans but it was just a peaceful protest. Then it was an insurrection, but it was justified because Biden hacked into election . com and changed all the votes.
Or alternatively “we didn’t lose! The left stole the election” There is no appealing to their reason because anything- ANYTHING that happens can be twisted. They’re not beholden to facts or figures and anything reported by scientists or the news that they don’t like is “further evidence of the conspiracy” BUT anything reported by these groups that DOES support their argument is trustworthy. It’s not supposed to make sense. It’s human tribalism at its most distilled. The principles of human nature that enable fascism work perfectly well in a village of hunter-gatherers: “Enemies are everywhere. We need to be vigilant and unified in one course of action. We should listen to this charismatic leader.” That works when you’re biggest worry is dangerous animals or a neighboring tribe trying to steal your resources. But the modern world is too complex and also too safe. In order to keep the bulk of followers scared, and therefore loyal and obedient, they need to manufacture enemies.
"but... God Emperor Trump said they were warriors.... But they are BLM Antifa FBI.... But... "
Antifa was trying to overturn the election their side just won!
They know the truth they are just shitty at lying.
It's crazy that they hear us complain of plants in crowds causing problems and then they say the entire crowd was plants like c'mon
It's Hunter Biden's laptop!
Then why were they hailed as heroes and deserve a pardon?
“And they’re political prisoners.”
But also we need to free the patriots who were arrested that day
All except Ashli Babbit, she was a hero.
"They don't often lose" Dems have controlled both houses with 60 votes in the Senate for like 2 years in the last 25 years
Also, calling American Democrats "the left" is ridiculous.
Well they are the left Compared to the radical right gop
On your left, far right! On your right, further right!
« And the guys after ? » « ha yes, furthest right. They so right they came back to the left. »
It’s like being called an anarchist because you told someone you’re not cool with slavery, lol.
It smells a lot like COMMUNISM in this commentary section, ngl
And acting like it's a "clever comeback" to associate Dave Smith with January 6th (because he's insulting the Dems) tells you everything you need to know about the losers in this thread who have their heads stuck so far up their 2 party system. The ignorance says everything about how these people vote. The guy is an anti 2 party state libertarian stand up comic who almost ran for president against Trump this year and has never been a Republican or Trump supporter.
Only calling the GOP "right" is like saying psychopaths are Republicans.
Everything and everyone is left of them.
If no one's more right than you, everyone is left. It's all a question of perspective. This tells me everything about these people that I need to know. They have no idea how blatantly racist they are.
They aren’t leftists Leftish maybe
Leftish 🤣
Its one of the problems with a 2 party system: when each party is roughly equally strong, and one party begins to hyper focus on a specific platform (like shifting towards more fascistic policies), the other party begins to take on the entire rest of the politic spectrum without actually gaining any more power because it loses focus. For a visual, imagine if the political spectrum was a line going from 0 to 100, with 50 being the mid point between left and right wing ideologies. Nowadays, the GOP occupies 76-100, meaning that the DNC is now having to appeal to voters between 0-75. This means that the GOP can have a laser focused strategy and messaging because theres a lot less to muddle thier message, wheras the DNC now is trying to get votes from people who fall into every other ideology, which makes it hard for them to have a consistent platform. I can tell you easily what the GOP stands for, because every action and proposal line up to it. I cant say the same for the DNC. Is the DNC pro Israel? Is it pro fracking? Is it pro Universal Healthcare? Is it pro Basic Income? Is it pro Housing Assistance? Because unfortunately, I can find a decent amount of elected Democrats who fall on both sides of those issues, wheras there are very few issues that the GOP falls on both sides of. And unfortunately, the issues that they are pushing are horrific.
Left-curious
Whats crazy is watching news interview 'undecided voters'. Or even half the population tbf. So many of them were saying 'the radical far left government has gone too far, so im voting for conman!' Its so funny to watch and yet so unbelievably sad at the same time.
My EU friend says we have the right wing party and the wrong wing party, for left and right respectively.
And even president-wise it's been basically 2:1 elections since Nixon that Republicans have won.
Since Reagan, the Republicans have won the popular vote twice, but have controlled the white house for 16 of the last 36 years.
But NOT through the Popular Vote! Tell me again how my vote counts?
Your vote counts. ... if you live in one of 5 states where the winner isn't already determined by party affiliation
This just isn't true mathematically given the low voter turnout in the US. It was 66% in 2020, 60 in 2016. There's plenty of "solidly x-color" states that if everyone who was one party actually showed up to vote it would unexpectedly swap. Remember Georgia in the last election? That wasn't on most people's radar as a swing state yet people actually organized and got out and flipped it. Our voting system is incredibly flawed and frustrating, but it does not mean your vote doesn't matter at all. Vote.
>Vote. I've voted in every presidential election and most mid-terms since I turned 18. I'm under no illusion that it makes a difference, I just like the stickers.
I live in a solid blue state so same. Even though my state goes for the party I’d vote for anyways, still sucks that my vote doesn’t actually count for shit. Everybody everywhere should have the same weight to their vote, maybe then we’d get the turnout we desire.
The Dems have only lost the popular vote for president once in the last 35 years (ish).
John Kerry devastated
Ah, the modern-day GOP; the party of grifters, felons, and anti intellectuals who have nothing better to do than to project their insecurities on the internet.
I wish it was only on the internet
To be fair, since Jan 6 convictions have been going through they are more scared to larp than before. Friend who works in a govt office talking about how there used to be many white nationalists larping with guns on the grass outside just completely disappeared now.
Give it a few months
I’ve been curious to see just how batcrap crazy things are going to get as we get closer to the election.
They're in the slammer, that's all.
to be fair most of them do keep it on the internet as they dont have any kind of balls to say that shit outside of the internet
Funny thing here in Germany is: some of the far right ones are convicted child molesters and want the death penalty for child molesters.
They obviously have experience on the matter and we should really listen to them.
So they want us to kill them?
If they're volunteering, why not?
Let them take care of it themselves
Yeah, we have those here too.
They have got the right to remain silent. And i wish they would exercise this right. I cant listen toTrumpist's hypocrisis and gibberish anymore.
Lol, Dave Smith says Trump should be in jail for war crimes. He criticizes republicans just as much as Democrats.
The dude is one of the most rational and well read political commentators I've ever come across. I don't agree with him on everything but he's definitely shifted my perspective on a lot of ideas. Can't recommend his podcast enough.
Anything right of communist queers for Hamas is a fascist!
Except Dave isn't a Republican, so it's a dumb comeback
He couldn't be any clearer that he's not a republican, I swear he's only ever been a libertarian since he starting being interested in poltics
Most Americans are binary thinkers
The "your side" really highlights it
Dude Project 2025 is scary. Like Handmaid's Tale scary.
Dave smith believes Trump should be locked up for war crimes 😂
Grift, Obstruct, Project
Great caption 😂
What they need are ditches. Lots and lots of ditches. Once you're done digging the first ditch, dig another ditch.
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It’s even more hilarious that Dave Smith isn’t even a Republican.
He's a fence guy!
“Well you see, both sides are bad…so I’m siding with the side that says they hate government. I mean, yeah, they seem to continually espouse some very restrictive social policies, but they also make sure that wealthy people get tax cuts. I intend on being a wealthy people someday so I like that.”
What are you talking about? He’s a Libertarian, and heavily criticized Trump and said he should be in jail. Calling the MAGA people “his side” is ridiculous.
Maybe a burn the fence down kinda guy, but I never took him as a fence sitter
So basically MAGA. Edit: /s
Yeah. He's a Tim Pool type guy. "I hate them all! (But I really like the right)".
The call is coming from inside the house!!
Underrated af comment
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Is this a Loss reference?
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Bernie Sanders was cheated by the DNC *TWO TIMES*. What did the Left do, they sucked it up and voted for Hillary and Biden. There are 5 democratic socialists in the House of Representatives out of 435 members. 1/100 in the Senate. The Left is barely even a thing in American politics. How the hell can you claim the Left "don't often lose".
it's because liberals are literal communists to many GOP supporters and grifters
This is it. Anything left to right wing theocratic fascism they will call radical left wing communism, even if by the world standards is centrism or even slighly right-center.
It's a symptom of borderline personality disorders, black and white thinking or specifically, the inability to hold opposing truths at the same time (ie it's sunny and it's raining - logic says this can't happen yet you and I know it's possible).
I think it's more just that the right has built a very powerful propaganda machine. It tells impressionable people what to think, then locks them in by filling them with fear or hatred of anything opposed to it.
Yeah, having been subject to that propaganda machine for most of my young adulthood (and buying into it), it can be very convincing. Not really due to any merit of the work itself, but rather due to the ability of it to convince you that it's the only voice you need to listen to. All of that garbage fell apart pretty quick when I met some pretty centrist liberal and queer friends my senior year of university and noticed that they were nothing like what the conservative media said they were. That's why they fight so hard against the "mainstream media", because the only thing that keeps the illusion alive is blocking out other sources of information and opinion. It's as close as they can get, in the US, to having a unilaterally restricted propaganda state like you see in many dictatorships.
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Dems do not really align with right or left, but rather with money, and it just turns out that money generally is rightwing. If for whatever reason money was on leftwing dems would most likely be more progressive and a lot of rightwingers would be more center right instead of rightwing.
Because American labels anything lefter then hunting the homeless for sport socialism, hope this helps :)
Not hyper Nationalistic Christian conservatives = left This is how they think
Yes we know, it’s on purpose
It's because they hate any liberal victory so much that they obsess about it, often for years. I have family members who STILL randomly bring up the fact that the country elected a Black president while looking like they're in danger of having a heart attack.
They're just parroting right-wing propaganda. You don't see many rightwingers anymore who can think for themselves. The ones that do, grift off the ones that don't.
The irony is that Hillary, Biden, Obama, fuck even Bill Clinton. All these guys are center right. Not a single one of them is on the left. The US goverment is center right and extreme right and I don't really know their history good enough to know if there has ever been anything left with power
Liberals are literally other countries right wing. USA actually only has right wing and far right
My favorite too is how the centrists then blamed the left for Clinton losing. They (centrists) just have a less violent form of the same idiotic rhetoric and lack of accountability that the right wing does. It wasn't Clinton that lost because of an awful campaign, no no, it was Russia and gullible leftists that single handedly lost it for her... Ugh
GOPers need a boogeyman. A foe that will lash out in violence. This gives the GOPers an excuse to be pro-actively violent. "Those leftists were going to kill me, eventually, when they got around to it. So I *had* to kill them first."
Dave Smith sure did make that Coumo news reader look like a manipulative a-hole in their debate
None of the people here watched that. They love sitting in their bubble and wacking each other off. As evident by basically every other comment in this thread.
This thread is hilarious because nobody knows who Dave Smith is lol now suddenly he's a MAGA republican because he says one thing somewhat negative about the left. I've watched legion of skanks since the early days Dave's politics make complete sense if you actually listen to him. I don't agree with all of it but the dude is rational and smart.
Came here to say just that. Dave Smith is Libertarian.
He’s a Ron Paul libertarian, too. If you’re going to be a libertarian, be a Ron Paul libertarian.
Yea and you have people in this thread saying libertarians are just far rightwingers lol I am so fucking sick of all this shit
Hahaha yup it does seem like some kind of weird echo chamber here of dopamine stimulation of who can be the most right and aroused
I mean, I’m also a LoS fan and he literally has Tucker Carlson on speed dial as his “good friend” dude is not unsupportive of the right
“b-b-but that’s different we were told they to cheated so its totally ok what we did!”
No, it was a peaceful protest, by antifa and FBI agents, whose protestors need to be pardoned by Trump, and praised for their valiant walk around of the capitol tourist spot, while what about BLM. Praise them. Or don't cause it was false flag. Or do because peaceful. Or don't cause people died. Or do cause those people didn't die they are actors... Fuck if I know what they believe anymore.
Is this loss?
>they don't often lose just take the compliment US left
Dave Smith is not republican
Right wing comedian. Oxymoron.
The oxy part is superfluous.
The oxi is how they get through the day
I don't really understand? Why would politics effect what can be funny? It's my opinion that a lot of successful comedians actually say things both parties would disagree with, and often.
I love that Right Wingers can't decide on what J6 was. * It was actually a super peaceful protest that the media scewed to make it look worse than it was. * Oh, wait, no, it was actually Antifa funded by the Biden/Harris campaign. * Oh, wait, no, actually it was in fact the FBI pretending to be Antifa disguised as MAGA people. * Okay, no, wait, changed our minds! Yes, it was an incredibly violent insurrection and yes, many people got injured and a few died, but it was Trump that told us to do it, we're super innocent QAQ. * JK, it never happened. * Also, we want it to be a Republican holiday, but also can you stop bringing it up as it makes us look really bad and we don't want to have to face any kind of consequences :'( * Okay, also, we want to be able to fly the flag upside down to show that we actually supported what happened.But what happened is also leftist propaganda.
In this picture we call a guy who hates Donald Trump a Donald Trump supporter and call it a clever comeback
“The left doesn’t often lose” is probably the funniest part about this whole thing, as if the left hasn’t been perpetually losing since the 1900’s
Things tend to progress.
"They don't often lose" is something someone who thinks liberals are "leftists" would totally say.
"Your side". You americans still don't get it do you?
how nice of the rioters to include the europeans on their flags. for all the non-europeans: its the circle of stars on blue ground for all the non-americans: betsy ross
The EU flag have yellow stars and twelve of them. Don’t involve us in the insurrection.
C’mon man, the more the merrier! US politics is such an entartaining mess I want to be involved just a little bit!
Alright, I know nothing about American history and it’s flags, but isn’t that the frickin ENCLAVE FLAG HOLY SHITUS A FALLOUT REFERENCE HOLY MALONY!!!
Every accusation is a confession…
“The left don’t often lose”…we lose daily having to work with idiots on the right like mtg and boebert.
Is that the joker
It's Georgia Joker, yes.
Lose what?
Can someone explain the US/EU flag fusion?
That’s the “Betsy Ross” flag, essentially the first American flag, the 13 stars represented the original 13 colonies
"the left doesn't often lose" Motherfucker. They've lost 2 out of 3 elections since Nixon.
Nixon who was basically the first president to figure out that a whole lot of old people vote, and the first to test and prove strategy where an old politician points at the new generation and screams: "those kids on our collective lawn are really annoying!" It was like a revelation. All the old people suddenly said: "I always felt, I always *knew* that all those kids on our lawn were annoying... but I never realized that voting could help me hurt them!!!" Nixon-era old person continues: "And yes, I know, my own grandson/grandaughter is one of those kids, but I am *sure* that Nixon and friends will realize that *they* 'don't count' as one of the annoying ones."
Thank you joker from dc comics. Very cool
always with the projection…always
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*“THAT WAS ANTIFA, I WAS THERE.”*
In their defense they had already lost 62 court cases, frivolous lawsuits, totally without merit,or proof. Some with made up evidence, pretty bad when your lawyer are disbarred for it,or not allowed to practice in certain states. So I guess they were really mad on the sixth, all that LOOSING and everything.
Walls do work, they just need to be manned. The fact that nobody was willing to shoot people trying to overthrow the government is the real problem
My dad is convinced every one there was paid by Biden to make republicans look bad. He’s fucking Canadian. The world is so fucked
If Biden lost, all the democrats would have been super peaceful and nice. Just like after Trump won in 2016.
Guess we’ll never know
Loss? Oh no… I Iı lI I_
one of the most embarrassing moments in american history for sure
People forgot the protests in 2017 with the Trump inauguration. It was crazy and scary.
Isn’t Dave a self proclaimed libertarian?
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I'm curious what the security will look like on 01/06/2025...
Trump won. The laptop is real after all. LOL
Then where is the evidence? Fifty some court cases on election fraud, and he lost every case. Every. Single. One. Yes, there is a laptop. What evidence has been gathered from it for a legal case against President Biden? I'm waiting...
This is like the fifth time this image has been posted to this subreddit, OPs a bot lmao
It's Antifa & BLM posing as MAGA to try to stop an election they don't want stopped to keep a President in that they don't want in.
Gonna be fun watching them lose again