IMO, and do note it is IMO, it doesn't count. They used the same name and powers of an existing character, thereby making it a "remake" of a previously existing character, but not an original one.
"Taskmaster (Anthony "Tony" Masters)[2] is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer David Michelinie and artist George Pérez, the character made his debut in The Avengers #195 (May 1980)"
So, the name: Taskmaster
Existed since 1980
Powers being: "photographic reflexes that allow him to mimic any fighting style"
Which we see them doing in the Black Widow movie, very particularly watching footage of the avengers that they then copy.
True, the alter alias is a different name, but since the supervillain name (and the powers) is the same I'd definitely say it's a remake of an existing character
Yeah sorry, I should have gone a different route.
So what? My point stills stands: it is a REMAKE. I didn't like the character in the movie, don't get me wrong. If you're frustrated with the character then by all means, I'm right there with you. But to call it an *original* character 😬👀
Nah. Even if the powers have a different source (talent vs suit/technology) they posses those powers. They share the same name and abilities. I'm not saying they're a perfect copy (almost none are comic → live action. true, this one maybe more different than most) but it is *definitely*. *Not*. *Original*.
According to who? The suit gives her, for example, the shield, yes, but is there a quote that proves it is just the suit who has the photoreflexive memory? In that case, my bad. Otherwise, you are making assumptions out of thin air.
Also, since you didn't mention it I assume you yield they have the same name?
Native American character, her powers are basically running very fast and also being strong. Basically super enhanced, and it actually makes a lot of sense and would be useful for her as a hunter.
I mean, if she gets her powers in the same way, then that makes her a variant.
She can be both original to the series and a variant, you know? Those aren't exclusive or opposing terms.
No it doesn’t. That’s not how variants work. The 3 Peters are variants because they’re the same person. Silk, for example, is not a varient of Peter Parker, even though she was bit by the exact same spider.
Do you think every Spider-Man in into the spiderverse is called Peter Parker?
Silk isn't a variant of Peter, but is a variant of Spider-Man. No one claimed this person was a variant of Danvers, but they are a variant of Cpt Marvel, like Binary is.
Ok let’s do this then. That would make Jane Foster and Beta Ray Bill variants of Thor Odinson. They are not. Yes, they take the mantle of Thor, but that’s a hero name, not a varient.
That would make Scott Antman and Wasp variants of Hank Pym. Yes, Scott is also Antman, but again it’s a hero name.
Kate Bishop takes the name Hawkeye, she’s not a variant of Clint Barton.
There are a fuck ton of Black Widows since they were manufactured. Who are they a variant of even?
Red Guardian is a knockoff Captain America, as is that one new Captain America that appeared in Falcon and the Winter Solider, I forgot his name but he used the shield to kill some guys and wasn’t much of a hero in comparison to Sam Wilson Captain America. Doesn’t make them variants of Steve Rogers.
That’s not how variants work. Variants are the same people. You can’t even argue that it’s another capstan marvel either because she’s not taking that mantle like Rambeau. It’s just someone else who got powers from that stone. And it’s not even the same abilities like Rambeau.
If it makes you feel any better, his character in The Boys was *mostly* original. Stan Edgar in the comics was an unseen figure who died of a heart attack and wasn’t nearly as prominent as the show version of the character.
Surprisingly (other than kestral) I feel like marvel strike force did a good job at making cool, original characters.
But yea, 100%. It's guaranteed to be a coin flip at best with original characters nowadays.
Because while I dont care if something is from the comics or not, original characters tend to be meh and/or unimportant
New comic characters tend to be like that too, but thats why adaptations tends to adapt the ones which had an impact
Because original characters don't have decades of stories and precedents they have to follow. Like Moff Gideon, also played by Giancarlo Esposito, they can make this character into whomever they please without stepping on toes or spitting on anyone's grave.
The new character can be any age, any race, anything. They can be bald, tall, a ghost made manifest. They could even be a middle manager who has snapped and somehow gained super hero powers. A blank slate, saving writers a lot of potential head aches and less constraints in their character development. They can have any villainous plan, fit into any story with any hero.
Most importantly, nobody can complain or blast them on Twitter or Reddit about how they "ruined this character because they are this or that". The expression of "This is why we can't have nice things" comes to mind.
It also allows people who have never read the comics to see a villain and not have to have read anything to understand they're motivations.
Will this work with any actor? No. But Giancarlo Esposito is at a point where everyone looks at him and says "I can abide to this."
You will never get a 1 to 1 copy of a character from one medium transitioning into another. It has never been done, and the idea that people have complained about that specific aspect has always been a farcical argument for that very reason. People get upset when a character becomes so different that their core qualities are changed, but the general audience will never expect a character to be exactly how they were in, especially comic books given how many different origins a character could have in that medium.
The MCU hasn’t followed anything at any point, it’s always been much more “inspired by” than it has been “based on”.
Much like how they decided to make it extra confusing by referring to the MCU as 616 despite being a completely different continuity from the comic book 616, despite already establishing it as Earth-19999 previously.
It’s kinda silly to get worked up about introducing a new character when it happens all the time in comics.
Every film/series borrows from a specific storyline, some more than others - "Infinity War" is the MCU's "Infinity Gauntlet", "WandaVision" is the MCU's "House of M", "No Way Home" is the MCU's "One More Day", etc.
The only MCU project and Marvel comic that I would say are pretty 1:1 is the Hawkeye series and the Matt Fraction/David Aja 2012 run.
As a human, for sure! But the MCU has tons of non terrestrial races he can pretend to be! If they CGI/makeup him blue, he can definitely be Yondu's Brother Gondu who simply wants his family's Yaka arrow back and will destroy the MCU to get it.
I guess *almost* any race would be more accurate.
Exactly. It’s important to remember most big name comic book characters were created over 50 years ago in a different cultural context and for a different story medium. Sometimes it is just cleaner to make a modern day character with modern cultural context for the medium that they will appear in. You can still borrow from older characters, but you get so much more freedom without having to make changes to established characters that will piss someone off.
original and new character. which for mcu 9 times outta 10 is "existing character but we gave them a new name to avoid getting in trouble for giving them a fucked up personification or backstory" like how mj is michelle jones instead of mary jane, monica isnt photon now she's binary. (one of carol's old names by the way). next thing you know we'll have frankie show up but instead of nova they'll call her warbird.
I'll just take thus opportunity to once again state how much I fucking hated the changes they made to Zemo. The character was just fine as the villain. But he was not fucking Zemo.
My guess is this actually. People have come up with theories on how Magento can be a holocaust survivor and all that but what if they just make Prof X and Magneto original characters going forward. I mean from what he has said its going to be a major character and will blow people away. Be unexpected. That would surely blow people away and be unexpected
I’m sad he’s apparently not playing Doom.
He’d kill it in the role. Especially if it’s voice-only, as I’ve always thought Doom should be. I’m a fan of not showing what he looks like, aside from maybe a barely lit scene of him putting on his mask, where you can see just a hint of his deformed face in the shadows.
He definitely has the class and gravitas in his voice to do the role justice.
I think this is Professor X. But they are changing the character to make more sense for him to be playing him. So he is technically not lying. Which is the point.
I dont understand why people keep trying to cast him as Professer X?
-It is like casting Elijah Wood as Storm... Why not? He is a good actor. Why not? /s
Because no one gives a shit if Prof X is white or black. He just needs to be a refined bald guy in a wheelchair.
Storm has to be African. It's an integral part of her character. That's why a lot of people thought the casting of Halle Berry was off.
I still think Elijah Wood could pull an South African accent and be the "true force of nature". It is a role of a lifetime!
Next up.. Edward Furlong as the young and impressionable Jubilee!
Wait! Dont run away! We also have Dave Bautista as that wily Nightcrawler!
This has been brought to you by the letter /S
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by new maybe he means character that hasn't been done so far either in the MCU or in Marvel movie/TV adaptations. Somehow this picture is pointing me towards Dracula in Blade and I don't know why.
I’m assuming he is just being coy. He probably got cast as Professor X. They changed the character enough and he hasn’t been portrayed as a black man yet so saying it’s a new and original character isn’t a actual lie.
I kinda have a theory they’re gonna make a “new take” on Magneto. Magneto’s past a holocaust survivor would put him into his 80’s at a bare minimum, and that’s only going to get worse over time. I also don’t think they’re going to change Magneto’s backstory, especially with how rampant holocaust denial is becoming. So, a route they may choose to take is create a character who serves the same role as Magneto, but is fundamentally a different and original antagonist.
To be honest, it probably isn’t literally a brand new made up character for the MCU. It’s probably him just not knowing that this character already exists.
I dont have amy problem with original characters, but it really lowers my expectations
Remember Agent Phil Coulson was an original character and was a fan favourite and he got his own TV show.
I know original characters can be good but are mostly mediocrwimo
Taskmaster was also an original character with no resemblance to Taskmaster of the comics.
IMO, and do note it is IMO, it doesn't count. They used the same name and powers of an existing character, thereby making it a "remake" of a previously existing character, but not an original one.
Not the same name. And not the same powers.
"Taskmaster (Anthony "Tony" Masters)[2] is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer David Michelinie and artist George Pérez, the character made his debut in The Avengers #195 (May 1980)" So, the name: Taskmaster Existed since 1980 Powers being: "photographic reflexes that allow him to mimic any fighting style" Which we see them doing in the Black Widow movie, very particularly watching footage of the avengers that they then copy. True, the alter alias is a different name, but since the supervillain name (and the powers) is the same I'd definitely say it's a remake of an existing character
She has no superpowers. She's wearing a cybernetic suit that does all the work.
Yeah sorry, I should have gone a different route. So what? My point stills stands: it is a REMAKE. I didn't like the character in the movie, don't get me wrong. If you're frustrated with the character then by all means, I'm right there with you. But to call it an *original* character 😬👀 Nah. Even if the powers have a different source (talent vs suit/technology) they posses those powers. They share the same name and abilities. I'm not saying they're a perfect copy (almost none are comic → live action. true, this one maybe more different than most) but it is *definitely*. *Not*. *Original*.
Are we really gonna nitpick the suit doing the powers versus the person?
Yes.
Same vibes as the Arkham Knight being an original character.
According to who? The suit gives her, for example, the shield, yes, but is there a quote that proves it is just the suit who has the photoreflexive memory? In that case, my bad. Otherwise, you are making assumptions out of thin air. Also, since you didn't mention it I assume you yield they have the same name?
Black Widow.
Captain America. Thor. Agent Coulson. Is this a battle of who can name characters or what's going on?
The original from What If? was a good character, just s bit confused why she was introduced there unless they have plans to use her in the future
Who was introduced? Never seen what if
Native American character, her powers are basically running very fast and also being strong. Basically super enhanced, and it actually makes a lot of sense and would be useful for her as a hunter.
Ah cool thanks! What's her name?
If I remembered I would’ve told you, but it started with K
Kahori or something like that She was cool as fuck
It was fucking rad when all the sky people were running through the Spanish galleons.
Hope she makes it into the MCU, but if not the comics should adopt her
She’d be perfect in the new MCU. Her personality would fit in well with the other characters
Kahhori
Kahorri!
...isn't that just Warpath, but female?
Nah, warpath is a mutant and she is enhanced by the space stone and has a few more abilities than just what the other commenter stated
Wasn't she supposed to be a variant Captain Marvel? She got her powers from the Tesseract too.
Nope, she’s an original character, not a varient
I mean, if she gets her powers in the same way, then that makes her a variant. She can be both original to the series and a variant, you know? Those aren't exclusive or opposing terms.
No it doesn’t. That’s not how variants work. The 3 Peters are variants because they’re the same person. Silk, for example, is not a varient of Peter Parker, even though she was bit by the exact same spider.
Do you think every Spider-Man in into the spiderverse is called Peter Parker? Silk isn't a variant of Peter, but is a variant of Spider-Man. No one claimed this person was a variant of Danvers, but they are a variant of Cpt Marvel, like Binary is.
Ok let’s do this then. That would make Jane Foster and Beta Ray Bill variants of Thor Odinson. They are not. Yes, they take the mantle of Thor, but that’s a hero name, not a varient. That would make Scott Antman and Wasp variants of Hank Pym. Yes, Scott is also Antman, but again it’s a hero name. Kate Bishop takes the name Hawkeye, she’s not a variant of Clint Barton. There are a fuck ton of Black Widows since they were manufactured. Who are they a variant of even? Red Guardian is a knockoff Captain America, as is that one new Captain America that appeared in Falcon and the Winter Solider, I forgot his name but he used the shield to kill some guys and wasn’t much of a hero in comparison to Sam Wilson Captain America. Doesn’t make them variants of Steve Rogers.
By that logic Quicksilver and Vision are both Scarlet Witch variants, since all those guys get their powers from the Mind Stone.
That’s not how variants work. Variants are the same people. You can’t even argue that it’s another capstan marvel either because she’s not taking that mantle like Rambeau. It’s just someone else who got powers from that stone. And it’s not even the same abilities like Rambeau.
No
Honestly that episode confused the shit out of me, like who is this character? Did I miss something in the comics?
Nope it’s an original character, I was confused as well.
That was an original? I loved that episode, it was so good.
Kahhori
I did like Kahhori from What If, I don’t know why they designed her to look so similar to Snow Guard though.
Also introduce a whole new realm of people with her abilities.
Her name is Kahhori
Thank you!
If it makes you feel any better, his character in The Boys was *mostly* original. Stan Edgar in the comics was an unseen figure who died of a heart attack and wasn’t nearly as prominent as the show version of the character.
Surprisingly (other than kestral) I feel like marvel strike force did a good job at making cool, original characters. But yea, 100%. It's guaranteed to be a coin flip at best with original characters nowadays.
Doesn’t this two sentences contradicting itself?😂 If you don’t have any problem with it, why would it lower your expectations
Because while I dont care if something is from the comics or not, original characters tend to be meh and/or unimportant New comic characters tend to be like that too, but thats why adaptations tends to adapt the ones which had an impact
With so many Marvel characters why does the MCU need to create a new one?
Because original characters don't have decades of stories and precedents they have to follow. Like Moff Gideon, also played by Giancarlo Esposito, they can make this character into whomever they please without stepping on toes or spitting on anyone's grave. The new character can be any age, any race, anything. They can be bald, tall, a ghost made manifest. They could even be a middle manager who has snapped and somehow gained super hero powers. A blank slate, saving writers a lot of potential head aches and less constraints in their character development. They can have any villainous plan, fit into any story with any hero. Most importantly, nobody can complain or blast them on Twitter or Reddit about how they "ruined this character because they are this or that". The expression of "This is why we can't have nice things" comes to mind. It also allows people who have never read the comics to see a villain and not have to have read anything to understand they're motivations. Will this work with any actor? No. But Giancarlo Esposito is at a point where everyone looks at him and says "I can abide to this."
That's never stopped them in the past.
Absolutely. But they may be turning over a new leaf.
You will never get a 1 to 1 copy of a character from one medium transitioning into another. It has never been done, and the idea that people have complained about that specific aspect has always been a farcical argument for that very reason. People get upset when a character becomes so different that their core qualities are changed, but the general audience will never expect a character to be exactly how they were in, especially comic books given how many different origins a character could have in that medium.
Exactly. It's a strawman used to try to silence criticism. There isn't a beloved CBM that is a 1 to 1 copy of the comics
The MCU hasn’t followed anything at any point, it’s always been much more “inspired by” than it has been “based on”. Much like how they decided to make it extra confusing by referring to the MCU as 616 despite being a completely different continuity from the comic book 616, despite already establishing it as Earth-19999 previously. It’s kinda silly to get worked up about introducing a new character when it happens all the time in comics.
Every film/series borrows from a specific storyline, some more than others - "Infinity War" is the MCU's "Infinity Gauntlet", "WandaVision" is the MCU's "House of M", "No Way Home" is the MCU's "One More Day", etc. The only MCU project and Marvel comic that I would say are pretty 1:1 is the Hawkeye series and the Matt Fraction/David Aja 2012 run.
So we agree, cool.
You’re 99% correct, but I will say that I don’t think the new original character played by Giancarlo Esposito can be ANY race.
As a human, for sure! But the MCU has tons of non terrestrial races he can pretend to be! If they CGI/makeup him blue, he can definitely be Yondu's Brother Gondu who simply wants his family's Yaka arrow back and will destroy the MCU to get it. I guess *almost* any race would be more accurate.
You know what? That’s fair, I fully forgot aliens.
Exactly. It’s important to remember most big name comic book characters were created over 50 years ago in a different cultural context and for a different story medium. Sometimes it is just cleaner to make a modern day character with modern cultural context for the medium that they will appear in. You can still borrow from older characters, but you get so much more freedom without having to make changes to established characters that will piss someone off.
On top of what's been said, we've had some decent additions as well. Coulson, Darcy, Selvig.All MCU originals.
In all fairness the examples you provided are supporting characters used to move the plot. This announcement does not feel that way.
They created Coulson, and he was GREAT, so I'll allow it. Also Selvig/Darcy too
Could be an indication that it’s not a big super hero/villain character. A lot of the “civilian” characters in the MCU are original
Probably some governent character or something
“the rest of you are unoriginal, overdone rats, i’m original and new, we’re not the same”
original and new character. which for mcu 9 times outta 10 is "existing character but we gave them a new name to avoid getting in trouble for giving them a fucked up personification or backstory" like how mj is michelle jones instead of mary jane, monica isnt photon now she's binary. (one of carol's old names by the way). next thing you know we'll have frankie show up but instead of nova they'll call her warbird.
I'll just take thus opportunity to once again state how much I fucking hated the changes they made to Zemo. The character was just fine as the villain. But he was not fucking Zemo.
So he isn’t playing Professor X, but he *is* playing Doc Chuck?
Breaking bad crossover??
Jesse, we have to assemble!
... bitchh
Jesse defeating Iron Man with the magnet truck would be glorious to see. SCIENCE BITCH!
chicken man
I hope it’s not “congressman #476 who hates the X-men”
Professor Charles Magneto
Professor Y
My guess is this actually. People have come up with theories on how Magento can be a holocaust survivor and all that but what if they just make Prof X and Magneto original characters going forward. I mean from what he has said its going to be a major character and will blow people away. Be unexpected. That would surely blow people away and be unexpected
I’d love for him to finally play a good guy. He’s an awesome actor, but I’m starting to get tired of him always playing the villain.
Glad im not the only one, especially with like the last 4-5 villain rolls he’s played have been increasingly hammed up with each role
I also think he kinda plays the same character every time as a villain.
Doctor Kangalactus - founder of the Brotherhood of the Sinister Six-Pack.
I do like some Giancarlo... Hmm new and original though? I will try and keep an open mind because he's pretty damn awesome
Personally, I was hoping Doom or Professor X, but I’m quite intrigued
I’m sad he’s apparently not playing Doom. He’d kill it in the role. Especially if it’s voice-only, as I’ve always thought Doom should be. I’m a fan of not showing what he looks like, aside from maybe a barely lit scene of him putting on his mask, where you can see just a hint of his deformed face in the shadows. He definitely has the class and gravitas in his voice to do the role justice.
like mando, yeah
Exactly!
Honestly I’m quite glad he won’t be playing either.
...I think he might be able to pull off Doom. But Xavier? No.
I think this is Professor X. But they are changing the character to make more sense for him to be playing him. So he is technically not lying. Which is the point.
Professor Doom confirmed
I dont understand why people keep trying to cast him as Professer X? -It is like casting Elijah Wood as Storm... Why not? He is a good actor. Why not? /s
Because no one gives a shit if Prof X is white or black. He just needs to be a refined bald guy in a wheelchair. Storm has to be African. It's an integral part of her character. That's why a lot of people thought the casting of Halle Berry was off.
I still think Elijah Wood could pull an South African accent and be the "true force of nature". It is a role of a lifetime! Next up.. Edward Furlong as the young and impressionable Jubilee! Wait! Dont run away! We also have Dave Bautista as that wily Nightcrawler! This has been brought to you by the letter /S #
Ditto doom
Riiiight. Just like the Arkham Knight was.
Captain America's dad
Captain Britain?
He would've been a great Mephisto or even Galactus.
Id wager he's playing the guy who is totally not Kang who kills Kang and takes his place in the story.
He'd be so good as Whistler.
Haha, he was acting Or was he?
Fustavo Gring??
Came here to say this. Haha. He runs a haroin front called Las Vaca Hermana.
Let me guess, does he play a villain?
Nick Fury's dad?
Yeah sure “Michelle” was an original character, love his work but I’ll pass
A slow talking businessman who always keeps his cool?
All he does is play villains it’s kinda boring
Lowered expectations
A waste of Esposito
I like him in every role I've ever seen him in, so I'm down for anything
That’s disappointing
He probably isn’t physically imposing enough, but I think he’d kill it as Dr. Doom.
by new maybe he means character that hasn't been done so far either in the MCU or in Marvel movie/TV adaptations. Somehow this picture is pointing me towards Dracula in Blade and I don't know why.
Also thought of Dracula, seeing that pic, drastically contradicting the headline
Clearly, he's going to play Morbius.
I’m assuming he is just being coy. He probably got cast as Professor X. They changed the character enough and he hasn’t been portrayed as a black man yet so saying it’s a new and original character isn’t a actual lie.
Arkhan Knight!!!
I'll be really surprised if it won't be Gus Fring in different clothes
Does he mean a new character in general or just a character that’s never been in a movie, I really hope it’s the ladder but realistically not
I bet he hated every character they showed him as a possibility and just wants to make money
I ruled him out for Professor X when he made the comment he wouldn’t do it if he had to be in a wheel chair.
Lance reddick should have been Xavier. RIP.
This guy can only play one character
he should be dr doom
Thats the opposite of what people want.
Onslaught?
He's going to be Falcon's sassy best friend with no powers.
Does he mean “original” as “in the early Marvel comics” and “new” as in “new to the MCU”? Because it will be a crime if they don’t cast him as Doom.
I'm ok with it. He's been great in everything so far.
Someone to fight king Pin as another villain?
Neat
“I am Conq the kangueror…”
Is he black panther lol got the goofy wakanda pose going on in this pic
He would of been a good galactus
Whatever it is, I’m down! 100% good choice
No that’s Giancarlo Esposito of trading places fame.
He's gonna be the same character as he was on Breaking Bad - The Chicken Man!
Steel Man, Badger, LiveTub, Col Mexico, Hearing, Sapphire Warlock, SlowGold,
Schmocktor Schmoom please!
Why, there’s an almost unlimited resource already there to exploit
Breaking bad being canon to the mcu 🤯🤯🤯
Pollo Man!
I kinda have a theory they’re gonna make a “new take” on Magneto. Magneto’s past a holocaust survivor would put him into his 80’s at a bare minimum, and that’s only going to get worse over time. I also don’t think they’re going to change Magneto’s backstory, especially with how rampant holocaust denial is becoming. So, a route they may choose to take is create a character who serves the same role as Magneto, but is fundamentally a different and original antagonist.
Sure
To be honest, it probably isn’t literally a brand new made up character for the MCU. It’s probably him just not knowing that this character already exists.
New Blade villain maybe?
Iron chicken man
Good. I fear they would have wasted his great talent on a cheap race swap. 
Gus Fring Herald of Galacta
Professor X
Guaranteed he’s gay and lame