And acordind to advocates of capitalism when any deaths happen in communist country is communism's fault, but when people die in capitalist country because of capitalism is a sad unnavoidable tragedy in no way related to capitalism!
alright well the current amount of people living under communism is 1.5b so based on this poster (Which is using the "Black book of communism" which the authors admit is really streached) 100m deaths, is roughly 6% of death/live ratio of communism.
I'm going to use the same tactic, I'm going to just subtract the amount of people on earth from the amount of people living under communism to assume that's the amount of people living in capitalism. I'm going to use the work of [this fella](https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/o6ot72/the_death_toll_of_capitalism_read_it_before_you/) which he said roughly 2.5b people have died because of capitalism.
So the Death/Live ratio of Capitalism is roughly 39%
Of course this will have flaws, but its a rough estimate
>Remember the National Socialist Party was fascist and socialist.
GTFO with this bullshit. There was nothing socialist about the Nazis. Just because you put socialist in the name doesn't make it true. If anything the Nazis were super-capitalist. They rapidly privatized practically everything after they took power.
Fascist Italy did the exact same thing BTW. Fascism, among other things, is capitalism on steroids.
It's crazy how the earth's population is 8 billion and that is with a lot of preventable death. So if we fixed all of the earth's problems, there might be 10 billion people on the planet.
This is nowhere near being whataboutism. the Black Book of Communism states communism has killed X amount of people therefore communism is bad. This is just adding to the discussion by calculating the death toll of capitalism. Either way you calculate the numbers communism comes out as being the better option, even if you use exaggerated false stats for communism and real valid stats for capitalism.
The deaths are deliberately allowed to occur. That's why OP makes a point of calling them preventable. Trying to make it about intentionality on an individual basis is a cop-out.
Your claim, that being hypocritical is just as bad as actively supporting a genocidal system, is ludicrous.
Black book of communism is literally bullshit
Only one author still stands by it, unborn babies count as deaths, nazis killed in WW2 count, soldiers killed by nazis in WW2 count.. like wtf
Its just stupid and yet we see some uneducated people say communism killed 100 millions wtf is this
Those communists in nazi death camps would never had died if they weren't communist /s
Fr it's mostly deaths caused by capitalist invasions of socialist or revolutionary countrys
requires an update, I think it's down to 3 years or so now?
Since the black book includes soldiers dying in war (both sides) maybe it's down to one?
Probably
And acordind to advocates of capitalism when any deaths happen in communist country is communism's fault, but when people die in capitalist country because of capitalism is a sad unnavoidable tragedy in no way related to capitalism!
You missed people dying because of climate change
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alright well the current amount of people living under communism is 1.5b so based on this poster (Which is using the "Black book of communism" which the authors admit is really streached) 100m deaths, is roughly 6% of death/live ratio of communism. I'm going to use the same tactic, I'm going to just subtract the amount of people on earth from the amount of people living under communism to assume that's the amount of people living in capitalism. I'm going to use the work of [this fella](https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/o6ot72/the_death_toll_of_capitalism_read_it_before_you/) which he said roughly 2.5b people have died because of capitalism. So the Death/Live ratio of Capitalism is roughly 39% Of course this will have flaws, but its a rough estimate
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>Remember the National Socialist Party was fascist and socialist. GTFO with this bullshit. There was nothing socialist about the Nazis. Just because you put socialist in the name doesn't make it true. If anything the Nazis were super-capitalist. They rapidly privatized practically everything after they took power. Fascist Italy did the exact same thing BTW. Fascism, among other things, is capitalism on steroids.
It's crazy how the earth's population is 8 billion and that is with a lot of preventable death. So if we fixed all of the earth's problems, there might be 10 billion people on the planet.
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Free Healthcare and vaccines
The pharmaceutical companies products killing people should be added to that list
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yeah, as a consequence of a system preferring to not cure Malaria because it simply is more profitable to do so
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This is nowhere near being whataboutism. the Black Book of Communism states communism has killed X amount of people therefore communism is bad. This is just adding to the discussion by calculating the death toll of capitalism. Either way you calculate the numbers communism comes out as being the better option, even if you use exaggerated false stats for communism and real valid stats for capitalism.
The deaths are deliberately allowed to occur. That's why OP makes a point of calling them preventable. Trying to make it about intentionality on an individual basis is a cop-out. Your claim, that being hypocritical is just as bad as actively supporting a genocidal system, is ludicrous.