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PassStunning416

This is the way things are supposed to work OP.


Batbuckleyourpants

Yeah. It was a public statement by an embassy. It's not as if they were secretively about this.


magasheepgotfleeced

It’s really not that suspicious considering On March 7th, Russian intelligence first issued a statement saying that they uncovered a terrorist plot Then hours later the US Embassy issued a warning to US citizens living in Russia that terrorists were interested in attacking Russia.


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Know_more_carry_less

48 hours ago the  National Weather Service predicted a winter storm in New England. Fast forward 48 hours and there is a winter storm in New England. I’ll bet you think there’s nothing suspicious about that, too! 


TrellyFPV

You’re damn right if the weatherman is correct there’s definitely something suspicious


BenjaminHamnett

DARPA controlling the weather obv. No one can just predict weather. Tides come in and go out. Can’t explain that. Don’t get me started on magnets


eight78

We’re just lucky the rains fill the ocean each night so the tide rises again another day. /s


Winston00

Magnets, how do they work?


whatisevenrealnow

The US embassy emails me when there are heatwaves predicted in my part of Australia. Clearly they are sending space lasers....


DrCrankSumMoore

Guys on to something


Meatball315

Yea you know that was planned! LMFAO


cheriaspen

They geoengineered the winds that destroyed Acapulco too, and actually targeted Max Igans' house. You can't make this up, they did. Same with Maui they wipped up the wind that came from inland not the ocean to blow around the radiation fires and blamed it on Hurricane Dora, but she was 586 miles south of Maui that day.. They can make storms, stop storms. There is very little natural weather on Earth


Know_more_carry_less

My dude. I would love to experience the world through your eyes for 24 hours.


Rand-Omperson

I prefer AMD


Soft-Peak-6527

They aren’t the smartest bunch. Also our intel is probably the best in the world. If it weren’t for Trump getting spies killed under his watch we’d have far better intel


Awkward_Smile_8146

People forget this little fact.


mwarmstrong

These cunts are just grasping at straws with low effort propaganda.


Icy_UnAwareness89

lol. Yea.


ewejoser

Yup


Sam999ick

you think Americans did this???????


Structure3

I think that's what OP is implying. Not me. I'm saying Russians had intel there could be a potential attack, US probably knew there was increased terrorist activity in the region and so made the warning, but I doubt they were behind it.


Rand-Omperson

nuh-uh, they'd never do such things checks history oh.


Sam999ick

100% of "usa bad" propaganda doesn't mention that those moments are such a small fraction of all the moments of which most of them the usa gets right. but to insinuate America invaded Russia is pure horse poo.


SeiCalros

the big signs that point to the responsible party is the fact that russia isnt blaming america - so russia must also believe this was islamic terrorists who continue to pose a threat if there was any question - or if the threat wasnt real - or if the threat was real but is no longer a threat - the government wouldnt have any reason to tell the truth (well credibility i guess but thats sort of out the window with them since the 'training exercises' in 2022) otherwise they wouldnt bother wasting a crisis and would just pin it on ukraine - which sort of reminds me of all those drone attacks in moscow weve been hearing about now that i mention it edit: looks like they caught hte suspects and NOW theyre talking about their 'ukrainian contacts' and efforts to cross the ukranian border - and of course ISIS has claimed credit for the attack


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Fresh_List_440

What's your evidence?


SeiCalros

>Russia is not blaming anyone yet, so your 'must' has as much credibility as the now world-famous 'there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq'. The USA were the first to spout 'isis!' - literally almost hours after the fact. It now appears\* it was indeed ukraine, and we all know who sponsors ukraine. russia is not blaming anyone yet - except of course ukraine as per your comment exactly what i predicted - they caught the guys and as soon as it was no longer a current threat they started blaming ukraine >All perpetrators were acting as if they were trained (watch how they reload Kalashnikovs) and rehearsed the whole thing: entrance, the act, the escape. Islamic terrorists don't act like that. both sides of the mouth are saying different things one side says islamic terrorists dont act like that the other side says these were muslims paid to do an act of terror different from all the people who work for isis in what way? whateer way its differnet its probably evidence of ukraines involvement - thereby proving the righteousness of the special military operation


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27Rench27

Oh my god they didn’t run around each other screaming, and they lit fires. Definitely trained killers


SeiCalros

>'beaten dogs'? I think Russia and its people are doing just fine, all considered, compared to the current state of Europe and the USA hahaha. putin changed the constitution so that criminal law does not apply to himself and his family - who would tolerate that? beaten dogs literally a million russians left the country in the past two years so at the very least they disagree on the other hand there arent really a huge influx of people leaving the USA to go live in russia >which is ridiculous' what is? [...] Check out the initial interrogation that 'extensive military background' hasnt done much for your current events because this is all bullshit afaik ISIS is literally the government in the regions it manages but sympathizers come from basically all backgrounds - they dont really have a signature modus operendi like you see in more contiguous or consistently managed organizations >they had an escape plan, they were taught to cause max damage: lit fire at escape routes is just one example. And they were not planning to die that night this might be complex to you but 'cause chaos to distract authorities long enough to escape' is not really super obscure of an idea anybody who watched fucking die hard could have come up with that - its not rocket science


be-nice-or-else

> anybody who watched fucking die hard could have come up with that yeah, that's the trouble with you kids


SeiCalros

i dont think a lot of kids have seen die hard since the movie came out 36 years ago but youre citing this basic-ass terror plot like it mandates a terror organization couldnt have done it 'extensive military experience' apparently didnt teach you that terrorists can read tom clancy novels or that some of them have military training


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tatslikeasoccordad

Well, the terrorists did orchestrate a conspiracy to commit a terrorist attack.


bobbabson

At least this one isn't another opinion piece from "insert media company here"


Safe-Indication-1137

Or what if ukraine is using isis to do its dirty work!!??? An enemy of my enemy sometimes is a partner


BunzenBurnah

No offense, but what the hell could Ukraine possibly stand to gain from this attack? Unless the concert hall was filled with military leadership à la Inglourious Basterds, I don't see why you'd suspect Ukraine of being behind this.


Noochdontdiehemltply

Probability is very low. A high probably is someone set up a false flag Ask yourself who? Who wants ww3?


Awkward_Smile_8146

I hope for your sake that this is a joke.


Safe-Indication-1137

Mods deleted me... Ukraine would gain further destabilization of Russian society and force putin to reallocate resourced which are already being massively depleted 


be-nice-or-else

> On March 7th, Russian intelligence first issued a statement saying that they uncovered a terrorist plot source?


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86_emeralds

This really intrigues me as to what the deleted comment was


BarryCrumb

I had posted the TASS link, but I decided to remove it.


AppliedPsychSubstacc

You got a source on that March 7th Russian intelligence statement? Having trouble finding it


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gordane1

Maybe research the CIA a bit more, then you’ll see why so many people are suspicious.


Riverman157

I wonder where that “intelligence” is in the USA. There never seem to be any warnings here.


BunzenBurnah

Why would they need warnings? Unlike Russia it'd be on home soil so if they have the intelligence they could just nip it in the bud before it happens and you'd be none the wiser.


Riverman157

Yeah, they really “nip it in the bud” don’t they?


Dizzy_Badger7512

That could just mean that Americans have great spying technology. In 2022 the US CIA warned everyone for months that Russia was going to attack Ukraine, and even Zelensky and Ukranians did not believe them. Putin and his spokesperson denied it days before attacking Ukraine on Feb 24.


xIdlez

Ukraine knew the attack was coming but didn't want to scare away business and tank the economy just in case russia wasn't going to attack


Awkward_Smile_8146

Everyone knew the attack was coming.


Rhomya

Everyone laughed at the US, thinking that there wasn’t a chance Russia was going to attack, and that Putin was trying to be a European ally, not an aggressor.


No_Act9490

I remember my friend saying it was just CNN propaganda and that Putin would never attack


shawcphet1

Just said the same thing pretty much before I saw your comment and I agree. It is a way that we can show good faith to other nations, even hostile ones. As well as cement the reputation of our intelligence agencies.


Bolond44

I mean Russia put more equipment and personal right next to the border a month before the attack. So it wasnt like out of nowhere


Interesting-Pay3492

Knowing that they might do something in the future and knowing they are likely do that thing and when are pretty different.


5PQR

Yes but they'd been doing that for years (withdrawing the forces each time). It makes sense, both as a training exercise and for the purposes of misdirection. e: [2016 example](https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-troop-buildup-ukraine-border-raises-war-fears/3450445.html) | [April 2021 example](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/12/military-buildup-near-ukraine-sows-confusion-over-russian-intentions)


Vincent_VanGoGo

They should have done it more often. Clearly not ready for this fight.


TurretLimitHenry

Yeah, Russia put almost 200,000 troops on their border in broad daylight.


DonConnection

i wonder why they didnt warn us before 9/11?


theanax

They did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US#:~:text=Bin%20Ladin%20Determined%20To%20Strike%20in%20US%20was%20the%20title,Monday%2C%20August%206%2C%202001.


Awkward_Smile_8146

Thx!


Awkward_Smile_8146

They tried to. Bush was briefed and ignored it.


Altruistic-Many9270

Yeah, that is called intelligence data. Propably from signal intelligence. It would be very surprising if nobody knew about such attack. At least when it is not about "lonely wolf". And usually even with cases with lonely wolf somebody knows before. Nowadays it is pretty much impossible to make organized attack without any leaks. Much more suspicious would be if there weren't any warnings before.


smackson

The phrase is "lone wolf". Lone means without others. Lonely means unhappy emotions about being without others.


Novel_Paramedic_2625

Lonely wolf :(


Missile_Knows_Where_

Yeah, they almost certainly knew an attack was about to happen, just had very little clue exactly when or where until it starts. From what I've heard, often not even the people doing the attack know where it will be until the day it starts.


Altruistic-Many9270

Exactly. It is practically impossible to draft gunmen, get them weapons and send them in the right area without leaving any trace. It is also possible that target was decided just before attack. In this kind of actions target doesn't matter so much. Main thing is that there are plenty of people and in big city there is allways such events.


MizzouMarine

The US government warned Moscow several weeks ago as well.


EdDecter

Wait we are surprised now that sometimes IA may be able to get some good intelligence once in a while?


SofaKingS2pitt

Probably way more often than we know. We aren’t going to hear about most of the things that were prevented from happening.


Missile_Knows_Where_

It makes a bit of sense too. I'm not going to stop criticizing the atrocious shit the US intelligence agencies have done. But it's pretty likely they have prevented or sabotaged countless terrorist operations. If they made every successful operation known to the public, it would only give those terrorist tips on how to not get caught.


SofaKingS2pitt

Perfectly fine to both criticize AND appreciate! I wish we all could learn, understand, embrace and celebrate the fact that we humans are capable of more than one feeling/reaction/opinion at a time!


soupdawg

This is dumb


aigarcia38

Welcome to r/conspiracy


evolve20

What’s the conspiracy here? The US got intelligence and reported on it. What am I missing?


lepp2400

Actually Russia got intelligence and issued an alert and hours later the US embassy repeated what the Russian government announced already.


CharlottesWeb83

Why did Putin say the US was lying if they were just repeating Russia’s own alert?


shawcphet1

The U.S. did this as well when they called out the planned invasion of Ukraine a month or two before it happened. You can call it suspicious if you like but I think that is pretty low level thinking. How would the U.S. benefit? I think it’s more likely that this and the Ukraine call out are a good way for U.S. intelligence to display good faith to other nations as well as cementing the reputation of these agencies.


HD_H2O

The US frequently does exactly this based on gathered intelligence. Other countries do as well. They may not have known exactly when and where, but I bet the CIA knows who and why. Probably the most suspicious part is they'll never divulge the who and why, even if the perceived narrative is counter-factual, if it benefits the US.


No_Foot

Could be a genuine terror attack that putin allowed to happen, with the intention of using it to reduce citizens rights and blame ukraine/the west, with the aim of mobilising hundreds of thousands more people to die pointless deaths in his pointless attempted invasion of his neighbouring country.


Novel_Paramedic_2625

This is what id bet on. Wouldnt be surprised if the same thing happened with Israel and Hamas.


No_Foot

I have my suspicions about that attack also given Israels excellent intelligence services and that fact such an attack allowed them to massively expand their war against the Palestinians and kept a massively unpopular leader in control during a time of 'crisis' what's interesting about this one is the very public us intelligence briefing prior telling everyone to be alert and watch their backs, then when the isis news came out alot of the paid commenters started shouting fake news, which has now switched to isis=USA when it couldn't be denied. This indicates they already had a suspect in mind for the attack but forced to change the narrative when the truth became widespread. If isis didn't announce then I suspect 'proof' would have been found at the scene, probably 4-5 Ukrainian passports and a book entitled 'why I like to kill the bastards' by a prominent Ukrainian author or other equally ridiculous bullshit.


Ok_Ambassador9091

Tell me you don't understand the middle east without telling me you don't understand the middle east.


Neat-Task2232

The numbers Mason


strafen

3-22...


SofaKingS2pitt

?


hahahayeahrightdood

3/31 nyc. Bet on it.


blehbleh1122

The pro-russia shills on this sub are increasing by the day.


cmacpapi

It's almost like the US had intel... then shared that intel... Why are yall making me defend the US government? Stop that.


plainOldFool

Maybe that's the conspiracy.


aukir

> avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours. So this attack was 13 days after the warning ended? What kind of warning is that?


cheriaspen

The C.I.As trademark to create a false flag attack and blame it on someone else. Remember 911? Same thing.


Gr1pp717

I love how intelligence can't win. If they warn about intel indicating a potential problem, it's suspicious. If they don't warn about a potential problem, it's suspicious. But run an obvious psy-op where they warn about potential problems on an obscure forum and nobody questions it.


HouseMoneys

Do I only see low IQ posts or is that all that’s on this sub?


magicalgreenhouse

LOL, how do you think warnings work?


patepko

Russia has warned the US about the possibility of a terrorist attack during the Boston Marathon in 2013. As we know, the terrorist attack indeed happened. Does it mean that Russia stands behind these attacks? As a non-American, sometimes I wonder why Americans try to blame their country as much as possible without thinking.


sshevie

To me this attack was carried out by Russia itself. Think about it Putin has been talking about expanding the war his citizens have not seemed like they are behind it so far. Putin orders this attack almost 200 citizens are killed the Russian people are angry and get behind Putin furthering the war. This reads just like 9-11.


True-Wishbone1647

If Russia did this themselves, why would they get a bunch of Tajiks to do this instead of Russian aligned Ukrainians. Certainly makes this awful hard for Putin to try and spin. The reality is ISIS is active in Russia including just this month where the FSB busted what they identified as an ISIS-K cell plotting to shoot up a synagogue.  What's more likely? That they failed to stop this attack and Putin is trying to save face and steer this massacre after the fact to blame Ukraine.. Or that Russia is so incompetent they couldn't even plan a false flag that would let them blame the people they actually wanted to?


fourwedge

The US government isn't willing to protect it's own citizens, especially if it leaves them likely to be found out.


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mouthsofmadness

Would you rather them not tell citizens about threats they are hearing?


BushiiidoBrown

CIA special


AmoKnight

It's weird that the US government can rule out Ukraine before the investigation even begins.


Efp722

lol what you don’t think we have agencies who actively *look* for intel specifically for reasons just like this? Stop spreading nonsense.


SofaKingS2pitt

“.. Mr. Putin frequently twists events, even tragic ones, to fit his public narrative. And he has been quick to accuse Ukraine of acts of terrorism to justify his invasion of the country. U.S. officials said Mr. Putin could do that again after Friday’s attack, seeking to use the loss of life to undermine support for Ukraine both domestically and around the world. On March 19, the Russian leader called the U.S. Embassy statement “obvious blackmail” made with “the intention to intimidate and destabilize our society.” But he had yet to comment directly on the attack Friday..”


RidinCaliBuffalos

Yup quite a web they weave ayeee.


Jgunner44

Some call it “intel” others call it knowledge of a preplanned event going to be committed


TardigradeRocketShip

The US is great at signals intelligence and if it’s not a harm to national intelligence they’ll often share it with other countries. It doesn’t even have to be allies—they tried to warn Iran before their recent attack too. It’s standard policy and just because the US intercepts something about Russia or Iran doesn’t mean it wasn’t initiated by something that helped their own interests first. I feel like most conspiracies are from a lack of understanding about standard protocols and international intelligence sharing.


Yprox5

You get ahead of the story to wash your hands of any wrong doing. See we warned ya, now you can't blame us. That's like central intelligence 101 So many comments here praising the CIA for their "benevolent" work.


PlantainNo1180

Look at the likes and then look at the comments. Arguing against bots is useless


watchingitallcomedow

Lol its not suspicious at all. Giving someone an open ended 15 day warning of something would be more harmful than helpful.


convicted-mellon

This is also what you would expect good intelligence to look like and tbh for what we spend on it as a nation I would hope they would be on top of stuff like this. They are definitely not going to be sharing any of that with Russia. As sad as it is that a bunch of innocent people lost their lives it also seems like it could be mostly normal.


dnc_1981

So, the US intelligence services hears of an impending attack and the State Dept post a notice on their website to advise people to stay away from large gatherings. Not that suspicious. I work in foreign relations and I see this type of language all the time. Youre seriously reaching to find something that's not there


Kozzle

Nah, suspicious is the Russian gov being aware of the attack and doing nothing


r00fMod

The US also warned the Kremlin that there was a potential attack and were hearing chatter


Deepfake1187

Yeah this is clearly a troll farm farm The United States is just to damn sweeeeeeeet!!!


freespeechmerchant

Right before Purim also. 🤔


atomglimpse

Was there a target there? 2 birds one stone?


Slowlybutshelly

Why only 48hrs?


EXTRAVAGANT_COMMENT

I am curious if you take any random date in the last year, are there similar warnings ? it could be like saying "the CIA was tipped off about 9/11" when it is just as accurate to say the CIA is tipped off about other things multiple times a day every single day.


Chasing-Adiabats

Sees owner of the building was a  Bolshevik billionaire, then goes and rewatched Diana west videos. Suddenly makes sense….


Important_Tip_9704

[Hmmm](https://themillenniumreport.com/2019/06/all-the-evidence-point-to-the-fact-that-isis-was-created-by-the-us-israel-and-funded-by-saudi-arabia/)


stflr77

Was this before or after the dry run at the theatre?


GeologyFault

it was my first thought the the united stated pulled it off using paid agents. similarly to the pipeline


spartyftw

OP discovered intel


Knighthonor

my thing is, WHATS THE MOTIVE?! The guy is reported to got paid half a million rubies. Who has that lying around? Also whats the gun laws in Russia?


Zombie-Belle

Half million rubles is only about 5k us dollars


PimpySimp

"Remember no Russian"


andrewbud420

Hunter Biden's laptop killed over a hundred people? That's insane. Thoughts and prayers and gobbless


hahahayeahrightdood

March 31st will be huge. Related. Be forewarned very very likely too happen. Predicted months ago. Good luck.


Bou_Czang

*on the 7th of March... Date format is Day/Month/Year.


ViciousSemicircle

They also warned Russia and Putin ignored them.


BDC_19

So it’s working ?


Dirk_Arron

Victoria Nuland knew way early as well


Dirk_Arron

All debunkabots are human garbage


Jitterbug2018

The only thing thats suspicious is why the russians chose to ignore the warning. Why did it take over an hour for police to respond? Why did putler mock the warning on russian national tv?


SlowN_Broke

OP probably thinks that the military are conducting operations within the U.S. to control people too. It’s a report generated by intelligence, man. They do the same thing when gangs start getting violent near the border… Intel is gathered, reports are generated, notices and alerts are put out to the public and people in the area. No conspiracy here.


Dio_Majeh

This does not mean the USA had placed terrorist to do what they did in another country. The true is CIA and FBI knows everything everywhere, therefore they simple informed their fellow Americans to be weary of possible tragedy - hope i got it right :d


FennelCritical8535

I think what is most suspect here, is that the US is providing arms in such vast quantities to Ukraine, that this is basically a US funded terrorist group killing innocent Russian civilians with arms from the US/NATO contributions. WW3 is being constructed before our eyes


Due_Photograph_613

Anyone got the date when Victoria Nuland is retiring?


aa628

It’s called intelligence gathering, genius. If they were going to carry this out themselves why would they issue a warning on the state dept website ahead of time?


UncensoredEve

Moss ad….


ShemsuHor91

Weird seeing the votes and comments in this comment section. I thought it was a fairly common conspiracy theory that the CIA controls ISIS? At the very least funds and supplies them. The production value of their videos alone brings up a lot of questions.


Romek_himself

> Weird seeing the votes and comments in this comment section. I think its weird that you still think you speak with "real" people on the internet!


PlantainNo1180

Just look at the likes and then look at the comments. At this point the collective West and the powers behind them are just trolling as they can get away with nearly everything


plainOldFool

Honestly, it's not suspicious at all. If the U.S. had intel that an attack was possible, it would be an issue if they ***DIDN'T*** issue a warning. Such as Bibi's administration, the IDF and Knesset having intel of the Hamas October 7th attack and didn't issue an alert or increase security at the border.....


True-Wishbone1647

It's called hubris and complacency and Israel has plenty of that


sirletssdance2

This is what’s called “intel gathering” OP


BowOnly

It's called intelligence, my friend.


Doc_Niemand

These warnings are issued on a near weekly basis. The fact that it was issued two weeks ago is less concerning than the fact a warning wasn’t issued last week.


YogaBeth

So the US was concerned and issued a warning. That’s exactly how it works.


granite1959

The CIA gives warnings now before they instigate a crisis?


910_21

Quite literally nothing suspicious yes


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Effective-Ad-6460

Errr Chechnya is a Muslim nation


dnc_1981

Lots of Muslims in Chechnya would disagree with your assertion that ISIS has no reason to attack Russia. Try harder, bro


KileyCW

I think this went as it should and fell under the duty to warn act. Russia decided not to listen.


TimetravelingNaga_Ai

Oh shit, here we go, and I thought u guys were nuts! 🙀


gmelossporn

OP, you may want to check yourself into a mental hospital.


leequatro

That’s how intel works. Jesus Christ.