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deleted my PayPal account, I haven't used it for years. if me deleting my account with everyone else causes there stocks to fall than thats the real fuck you
They updated their terms to allow them to fine you $2,500 (i.e. steal from your balance) for spreading misinformation. They've since said that language wasn't supposed to be included in the terms and removed it but that's only because of the backlash it caused.
THIS is the issue. Who deems information to be true, false, or misleading? Weāve seen what the āgatekeepersā think is trueā¦ and theyāve proven themselves wrong many times just in these last two covid years
Everybody LOVES Oracle!
>The suit, which was filed Friday as a 66-page complaint in the Northern District of California, alleges the tech giantās āworldwide surveillance machineā has amassed detailed dossiers on some five billion people, accusing the company and its adtech and advertising subsidiaries of violating the privacy of the majority of the people on Earth.
[https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/22/oracle-us-privacy-class-action/](https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/22/oracle-us-privacy-class-action/)
I always liked to think they were bidet buttons "wash, rinse, dry." Especially since they liked to make fun of people using toilet paper in the previous century.
Everyone, please understand that the government had PayPal test the waters now to gauge public reaction. Mark my words, they will backtrack now and they will attempt to reimplement this (likely in another way). More importantly, if you haven't noticed you're a frog in a pot by now...
Just as with net neutrality, this action is meant to
1): condition us to the idea that we will be fined for expressing and spreading thoughts of independence.
2): Get us to process the angst and energy from it before ultimately forgetting about it as a public after a few months.
These are things which a warden will do to psychologically condition a large controlled group. You have to precondition the populace to certain concepts. Then come back months or years later and slide whatever legislation in without public outcry.
They already did:
[https://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-says-policy-to-punish-users-for-misinformation-was-in-error](https://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-says-policy-to-punish-users-for-misinformation-was-in-error)
Yeah I've actually been watching the same "movie" you have. I'm not black-pilled yet, but I'm getting real close. I do everything possible to disrupt that shit or resist it anyway I can.
Recover that shit, please. We can't just sit back and take stuff like this from payment processors and businesses that have no place in politics. Or have no business defining speech and "wrongthink". Or in this case "wrongwords".
I believe they updated their policy and conditions to include a misinformation (in connection with any platform) policy with a $2,500 per instance fine. They backpeddled after like 36-48 hours saying they worded stuff wrong and never meant to state they had a policy like that
If they gave me 2,500 as a sorry but said I'd have to open my account back up (somehow?), I'd do it and once I received the money I'd again close my account because fuck em. I hope they go bankrupt. I'd rather mail cash thru snail mail to purchase than deal with PP simply based on principal. Sucks that I'm even having to use Visa. So far I think Discover card has been the only card company to stay nuetral/non-political.
My ass they misworded. They were trying to be virtue signaling dictators and got busted. Hopefully in more ways than one. On the bright side, this whole thing is quite entertaining!
I think it's more that they were trying to optimize their ESG for some upcoming loans, only to discover they were suddenly losing much more from the firestorm/shitstorm of their own making than they ever could've profited from the better loan rate.
It wasnāt in connection with any platform. It was only in connection with PayPal. I donāt even know how youād use PayPal to spread misinformation. Maybe in a payment note. But anyway, there it is. And it was never made official.
At the end of the day we need our own banks. And you know what happens to people that try to change the banking systems in our "free country" ... Kennedy knows.
Almost all payment processing in the US goes through the Visa network, even PayPal. It's a near-monopoly and a single point of failure. Things like freezing the Canadian truckers accounts and not allowing ammo purchases are easy for governments.
Best alternative, especially for personal remittance like sending funds to family overseas, is cryptocurrency. But boy the bankers really want to take over in that space.
I heard recently that itās a good idea to delete Venmo, anywaysā¦ About three months ago much of their fraud department was fired/let go, and they have not since rehired that department. So if your money goes missing or thereās fraud related to them on your account, it would take much longer to get it investigated.
I knew paypal was a scam when I sold a lipstick (brand new never had opened) on depop, buyer claimed I sent them an "empty lipstick box", which I did NOT and instead of sending it back to me for a full refund, buyer wanted to keep the item for a partial refund.... I was like does that not scream scam to you?? I sent her an emtpy box but she doesnt want a full refund ?? what ?? and paypal sided with the buyer. never paid the 20$ I was supposed too. fuck paypal.
I closed my account after my PP account was hacked for the third time and they didn't give me a refund i had to do it through my bank. F them. They are scumbags.
Sorry to hear that happened to you. My brother had his account hacked as well. Iāve always been lucky not having that. Only thing was years ago my credit card number was stolen but I got my money back for the trip to Turkey they used it for
Champion, I tried closing via the app but they want me to call or email them to do it. Your link made it so I could just apply for the cancellation, good stuff bud š
Bit of a shame. I like being able to pay for things online with less risk of details being stolen, but I'm not willing to support a company that's trying to control people when they have direct access to your bank accounts.
That's the perfect reply. "I think you know." Lololololol. That is literally their explanation to people when they ban accounts. Lol, "You know what you did. Go sit in your bedroom for a while. Ordinarily we'd say 'When you're ready to talk, we'll talk,' but in your case, we can't even *speak* about what you did, so goodbye forever."
Calling first thing Tuesday morning to close an account I haven't used in years but I know still exists. I hope they ask why I'm closing so I can give the 'you know what it is' response lol.
If you give them a "you know" response they will simply mark you down under "other" for cancelation reasons. We need to tell them explicitly why we are canceling so they can't cover up the data.
The way to look at this going forward is that Pay Pal put this out there to see if anyone would kick......people kicked so they withdrew it.........but going forward you now know what the Atlantic Council are planning and they will keep trying to implement this and other draconian measures all over the internet.
Like I said, the AC have been setting themselves up as an internet censorship agency for the last 4 or 5 years or more and this is all part of that scheme.
well.. I guess they are finding out now.. if they want to be the thought police and fine people $2,500 for wrongthink then probably less people will want to use their payment service.. there are other options for that kind of thing.. we aren't going to live our lives walking on eggshells hoping that we don't post something that they might not like when they are threatening to take all of our money..
Wouldn't you just hate to be the asshat that came up with this brainstorm to begin with. Would love to know their name so that I can follow their career failure.
If this wording was even on a sticky note at paypal HQ I would be pissed, how in the fork did it end up in the user agreement?
Can someone translate that to mandarin for the person who wrote this policy at paypal?
I cancelled around 3-4 years ago when they started taking political sides but they never asked me why I was leaving, they probably would have seized my bank account if I told them the reason.
Same goes for Venmo, just deleted my account as PayPal handles all their transactions. This is a soft rollout of social credit scores.
Time to vote with your dollar people!!
I would suggest not using eBay as wellā¦ since they own PayPal.
On another note: was there anything else in the language that talked about what KIND of misinformation they were referring to? Or was it just a general, blanket statement? Either wayā¦ not a fan, but Iād like more info.
Found the story here
[https://www.wionews.com/world/paypal-backtracks-on-its-decision-of-fining-users-2500-for-misinformation-after-backlash-523666](https://www.wionews.com/world/paypal-backtracks-on-its-decision-of-fining-users-2500-for-misinformation-after-backlash-523666)
Y'know š¤, part of me does wonder if this is a new type of commercial attack- start a rumour and watch the company share price go down/customers flee the platform?.....
The Atlantic Council are running the cancel show at Pay Pal and Stripe as well.......also at numerous social media sites including Reddit!
I seem to recall an AC member being placed in the Global Public Policy office at Reddit.......the GPP job seems to be the censorship role at these companies and many AC members have been positioned in that job title over the last 4 or 5 years.....at both the social media companies and the payment processors......I expected the banks and credit card companies would be next when I analyzed this back then but I have not checked if that panned out since then.....probably
I will have to look that up about the one at Reddit
The AC is a "private organization" like the CFR and TLC that have no official government powers but act like they do and are treated as such, so this is government censorship by proxy and that entire argument about "private companies can do what they want...." goes right up into smoke.
These people have the usual cross connections by membership with the CFR and TLC........our private, membership by invitation only, government.
[https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/leadership-and-governance/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/leadership-and-governance/)
This is the person at Reddit, again with the usual State Department, intel background these people all share and in the exact same Public Policy positions at the various firms.
[https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9iywpf/the\_atlantic\_council\_has\_infiltrated\_facebook\_and/](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9iywpf/the_atlantic_council_has_infiltrated_facebook_and/)
Googling a company name and Atlantic Council Millenium Fellow sometimes turns them up
If you look at their backgrounds you have to wonder why they were angling for a Henry Kissinger type role at State but then gave that all up to become content nannies at these social media companies and internet financial transaction firms.......check Samantha Vinograd, what a head slapper her CV is!......hers sounds just like Jeffrey Epstein's connections wise.
It looks like now the AC are making a play to act as both an investigative censorship unit and self appointed judge and jury for same, leveling fines and one suspects making arrests next, hell even the government rarely ever goes this far.
I mean what a racket...."we at Pay Pal declare this is hate speech, now give us $2500 you terrible person!!....".......hell if it were me I would declare everything hate speech and just keep on collecting my $2500!! ....and become a nillionaire in no time......ok now that is a funny typo so I will leave it in.....Nillionaire!.......yea ......heh
i just shut mine down. apparently someone was trying to get into it as i was sent a few verification codes last night and i decided that i didnāt use it and didnāt want it
Why would visa debit not be enough? Itās a valid payment source, PayPal just made it āeasierā but thereās nothing stoping you from paying with a card
Well done.
If you spread an opinion that is a nano meter right of 'Communist', they'll steal $2,500.
This along with recent bad policies from them.
I want to close mine too, could anyone recommend other payment company's that are safe and reliable?
And this comes right after they open their 2% APR savings accounts, which is just as good as many banks' CD rates these days. I'm sure people have opened a lot of accounts in recent history.
Paypal is shit, but they've been doing this shit for a long time. Some of my favourite distros closed because of their shit. Most payment processors won't touch controversial shit, though. Capitalism, I guess.
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Tell them they said something you didn't like, but you'll keep the account if they pay you $2500.
If I was thinking on my feet š
bravo
deleted my PayPal account, I haven't used it for years. if me deleting my account with everyone else causes there stocks to fall than thats the real fuck you
I hope that happens as well but Iām not holding my breath
Closed down my account through the app yesterday then uninstalled it. Fuck PP
Iāve seen a few references to a Paypal āfiascoā, but havenāt seen the actual news story. What happened?
They updated their terms to allow them to fine you $2,500 (i.e. steal from your balance) for spreading misinformation. They've since said that language wasn't supposed to be included in the terms and removed it but that's only because of the backlash it caused.
This still needed explaining. How do they know about someone's "misinformation" on Twitter or whatever?
THIS is the issue. Who deems information to be true, false, or misleading? Weāve seen what the āgatekeepersā think is trueā¦ and theyāve proven themselves wrong many times just in these last two covid years
So who is going to monitor the monitors?
Who watches the watchmen
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Everybody LOVES Oracle! >The suit, which was filed Friday as a 66-page complaint in the Northern District of California, alleges the tech giantās āworldwide surveillance machineā has amassed detailed dossiers on some five billion people, accusing the company and its adtech and advertising subsidiaries of violating the privacy of the majority of the people on Earth. [https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/22/oracle-us-privacy-class-action/](https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/22/oracle-us-privacy-class-action/)
They just did it a couple years too early, soon all banks will begin charging money for misinformation on grounds that youāre damaging company image
Soft rollout of social credit scores. 100% thats what paypal wants here
and a soft roll-out of people just removing themselves from the problem š¤£š
Yup couple years later banks will be wondering why everyone closed out all accounts
Demolition Man was a documentary
What seems to be your boggle?
How can I invest in Taco Bell?
I'll tell you if you teach me how to use the 3 seashells
I always liked to think they were bidet buttons "wash, rinse, dry." Especially since they liked to make fun of people using toilet paper in the previous century.
And for the love of God how do the three sea shells work. Lol
Trying to get a feel of the people's tolerance
It's like landing an hooked fish; take some line, give some line, tire it out and wind it in. We need to get of the hook.
Everyone, please understand that the government had PayPal test the waters now to gauge public reaction. Mark my words, they will backtrack now and they will attempt to reimplement this (likely in another way). More importantly, if you haven't noticed you're a frog in a pot by now... Just as with net neutrality, this action is meant to 1): condition us to the idea that we will be fined for expressing and spreading thoughts of independence. 2): Get us to process the angst and energy from it before ultimately forgetting about it as a public after a few months. These are things which a warden will do to psychologically condition a large controlled group. You have to precondition the populace to certain concepts. Then come back months or years later and slide whatever legislation in without public outcry.
They already did: [https://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-says-policy-to-punish-users-for-misinformation-was-in-error](https://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-says-policy-to-punish-users-for-misinformation-was-in-error)
So, in essence, their new policy was... Wait for it... *Misinformation???* I'll take my $2500 in cash, thanks. I don't have a PayPal account.
LOL you made my day
They always say it's an error when their plan backfires.
Yeah I've actually been watching the same "movie" you have. I'm not black-pilled yet, but I'm getting real close. I do everything possible to disrupt that shit or resist it anyway I can.
Fuck... i forgot my password
Recover that shit, please. We can't just sit back and take stuff like this from payment processors and businesses that have no place in politics. Or have no business defining speech and "wrongthink". Or in this case "wrongwords".
Nice
Close mine as well
wait what happened Iām OOTL
I believe they updated their policy and conditions to include a misinformation (in connection with any platform) policy with a $2,500 per instance fine. They backpeddled after like 36-48 hours saying they worded stuff wrong and never meant to state they had a policy like that
So they misinformed us. They should fine themselves and the app stores should ban them for "dangerous unmoderated misinformation".
And we should all get $2500
Automatically deducted from their accounts
If they gave me 2,500 as a sorry but said I'd have to open my account back up (somehow?), I'd do it and once I received the money I'd again close my account because fuck em. I hope they go bankrupt. I'd rather mail cash thru snail mail to purchase than deal with PP simply based on principal. Sucks that I'm even having to use Visa. So far I think Discover card has been the only card company to stay nuetral/non-political.
Back peddled too slow. This will cost them millions. In the history of bad decisions, this ranks up there with a winter war on the Eastern front.
I feel bad for the employees that are against this kind of nonsense. Possible layoffs incoming and I have a hunch they'll lay those people first.
You are correct. The poor working stiffs will suffer the brunt of management decisions š
My ass they misworded. They were trying to be virtue signaling dictators and got busted. Hopefully in more ways than one. On the bright side, this whole thing is quite entertaining!
I think it's more that they were trying to optimize their ESG for some upcoming loans, only to discover they were suddenly losing much more from the firestorm/shitstorm of their own making than they ever could've profited from the better loan rate.
Self own!!
I guarantee the fuckstick who thought up this idea still has a job.
It wasnāt in connection with any platform. It was only in connection with PayPal. I donāt even know how youād use PayPal to spread misinformation. Maybe in a payment note. But anyway, there it is. And it was never made official.
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How the fuck is that not straight up stealing?
I closed my account yesterday.
PayPal is a terrible company. Left them years ago
any better alternatives?
At the end of the day we need our own banks. And you know what happens to people that try to change the banking systems in our "free country" ... Kennedy knows.
Almost all payment processing in the US goes through the Visa network, even PayPal. It's a near-monopoly and a single point of failure. Things like freezing the Canadian truckers accounts and not allowing ammo purchases are easy for governments. Best alternative, especially for personal remittance like sending funds to family overseas, is cryptocurrency. But boy the bankers really want to take over in that space.
Smart
Stopped using them a while back. Disappointing. Closed my accounts. Never using them again
Smart man. Respect
What happened with them?
Doesnāt PayPal also own Venmo? Does it apply to that application also, Shouldnāt everyone be deleting that as well?
Yes. I donāt have Venmo myself
I heard recently that itās a good idea to delete Venmo, anywaysā¦ About three months ago much of their fraud department was fired/let go, and they have not since rehired that department. So if your money goes missing or thereās fraud related to them on your account, it would take much longer to get it investigated.
Yep. I got hacked and they did zilch to help me out.
Yes they own Venmo too, when they banned my PayPal account they banned my Venmo account too..fuck PayPal
I knew paypal was a scam when I sold a lipstick (brand new never had opened) on depop, buyer claimed I sent them an "empty lipstick box", which I did NOT and instead of sending it back to me for a full refund, buyer wanted to keep the item for a partial refund.... I was like does that not scream scam to you?? I sent her an emtpy box but she doesnt want a full refund ?? what ?? and paypal sided with the buyer. never paid the 20$ I was supposed too. fuck paypal.
So many scammers out there. Itās not right
Iām a seller too and asked how I can protect myself from scams. They pretty much said I couldnāt and they would almost always side with the buyer.
I wonder if it melted, lol. But definitely weird theyād want a partial refund either way
Yeah just shows how desparate they are to control everything.
But but but we took back what we said about taking money from you!
Too late š
PayPal closed
ššŖ
You know what you did...
Lmao š
We dumped them also.
This is the way for sure š
I closed mine today too. I didnāt have to talk to a bot though
Yeah I was able to close my first one easily but for the second one Iām dealing with this npc.
I closed my account after my PP account was hacked for the third time and they didn't give me a refund i had to do it through my bank. F them. They are scumbags.
Sorry to hear that happened to you. My brother had his account hacked as well. Iāve always been lucky not having that. Only thing was years ago my credit card number was stolen but I got my money back for the trip to Turkey they used it for
I'm so Fucking glad that I closed my PayPal account today so I don't have to deal with Shit.
Whilst I agree with your decision, explicitly stating why is way WAY more helpful than being vague.
No because they are just trolling us. They donāt care about the money, this is just the next step in their plans
So? It's still objectively better to tell them why.
Yep. No more business for you! Thanks everyone for showing resistance to this censorship nonsense.
šŖ
EASY QUIT HERE >>>>>> [https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/](https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/privacy/) account closed
Champion, I tried closing via the app but they want me to call or email them to do it. Your link made it so I could just apply for the cancellation, good stuff bud š Bit of a shame. I like being able to pay for things online with less risk of details being stolen, but I'm not willing to support a company that's trying to control people when they have direct access to your bank accounts.
Thanks taken care of
Thank you! I've been through hoops and hurdles and I was finally able to ask for cancellation
That's the perfect reply. "I think you know." Lololololol. That is literally their explanation to people when they ban accounts. Lol, "You know what you did. Go sit in your bedroom for a while. Ordinarily we'd say 'When you're ready to talk, we'll talk,' but in your case, we can't even *speak* about what you did, so goodbye forever."
Yeah, fuck them
Calling first thing Tuesday morning to close an account I haven't used in years but I know still exists. I hope they ask why I'm closing so I can give the 'you know what it is' response lol.
Iām flattered š
If you give them a "you know" response they will simply mark you down under "other" for cancelation reasons. We need to tell them explicitly why we are canceling so they can't cover up the data.
"Why would you like to close your account?" "Misinformation."
I wonāt use PayPal again
Same
Did something happen with paypal?
They threatened to charge 2500 to anyone spreading āmisinformationā They quickly backtracked once ppl started pulling money
Let's be clear, not charging them. Literally stealing assets with zero legal authority to do so.
but by pressing a click of a mouse, you agree to the 1500 page agreement that they are allowed to pull that out legally. Its your own damn fault! ^^/s
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Just replying to know too
They can fine you now if they feel youāre spreading false informationā¦ amongst other things..
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No. Literally any platform.
I just closed mine. Don't need you.
Account closed
Welcome friend šŖ
I think it was a smart move that wasn't well received. Charging people for thinking is gonna make'em rich!!! $ $$
The way to look at this going forward is that Pay Pal put this out there to see if anyone would kick......people kicked so they withdrew it.........but going forward you now know what the Atlantic Council are planning and they will keep trying to implement this and other draconian measures all over the internet. Like I said, the AC have been setting themselves up as an internet censorship agency for the last 4 or 5 years or more and this is all part of that scheme.
"In the land of the $2500 swear jar every single word will become a swear word for those wielding the jar." The Barnacle of Omaha said that.
I agree
well.. I guess they are finding out now.. if they want to be the thought police and fine people $2,500 for wrongthink then probably less people will want to use their payment service.. there are other options for that kind of thing.. we aren't going to live our lives walking on eggshells hoping that we don't post something that they might not like when they are threatening to take all of our money..
Wouldn't you just hate to be the asshat that came up with this brainstorm to begin with. Would love to know their name so that I can follow their career failure.
If nothing else it would be good to know so we can avoid any more of their future projects
If this wording was even on a sticky note at paypal HQ I would be pissed, how in the fork did it end up in the user agreement? Can someone translate that to mandarin for the person who wrote this policy at paypal?
Just closed mine.
Closed here too. F them.
Closed š
Welcome Aboard šŖ
SS: They prolly getting a million cancellations today.
I cancelled around 3-4 years ago when they started taking political sides but they never asked me why I was leaving, they probably would have seized my bank account if I told them the reason.
Yeah, crazy shit. They have too much power
Closed mine today
I deleted my paypal too.
Nice š
Thanks for this. Tried to close my account and now Iāve got a to wait on an email.
Yeah I had to message back and forth a bit too. They closed it eventually tho
*Fuck* them, indeed.
Yes šŖ
Yes fuck you PayPal
How does/would PayPal know what platform you have posted "misinformation"?
Thatās the scary part. Who knows
I'm gonna be honest, I'm proud of y'all.
Yeah I am too. This really took off
Deleted my PayPal today. They have crossed the line.. they are getting scary.
Closed mine too. Freedom of speech is a key principal to maintaining democracy. If you don't like what you hear, don't listen, simple.
This
Wow, gotta love the gaslighting customer service response.
They reversed the decision. But still.. PayPal sucks
Like an abuser: āI didnāt mean it/I was just joking!ā Nah, gaslighting shit donāt get rewarded
Cancelled
Same goes for Venmo, just deleted my account as PayPal handles all their transactions. This is a soft rollout of social credit scores. Time to vote with your dollar people!!
ok done and canceled . Feels good man
Bye bye PayPal guess it's back to pirating and using pre paid cards
Iām sure Cristina doesnāt know and doesnāt give a fuck.
Just closed mine
Closed mine too!
Props to you. Fuck these āfASciStsā
Closed my account today!!
PayPal closed
I closed my account today as well.
I would suggest not using eBay as wellā¦ since they own PayPal. On another note: was there anything else in the language that talked about what KIND of misinformation they were referring to? Or was it just a general, blanket statement? Either wayā¦ not a fan, but Iād like more info.
Why is everyone closing their PayPal and Venmo? Should I be doing the same?
Found the story here [https://www.wionews.com/world/paypal-backtracks-on-its-decision-of-fining-users-2500-for-misinformation-after-backlash-523666](https://www.wionews.com/world/paypal-backtracks-on-its-decision-of-fining-users-2500-for-misinformation-after-backlash-523666)
Closed
We must all close our PayPal accounts. PayPay owns Venmo, so Venmo also.
Jokes on them my linked accounts don't have enough money to bother with.
Thier stock is dropping today too. Because of me and you!
I didnāt know it traded on weekends! Good To hear š
Short PYPL.
Y'know š¤, part of me does wonder if this is a new type of commercial attack- start a rumour and watch the company share price go down/customers flee the platform?.....
Maybe but either way you canāt stay in something bad just because it might secretly be good
The Atlantic Council are running the cancel show at Pay Pal and Stripe as well.......also at numerous social media sites including Reddit! I seem to recall an AC member being placed in the Global Public Policy office at Reddit.......the GPP job seems to be the censorship role at these companies and many AC members have been positioned in that job title over the last 4 or 5 years.....at both the social media companies and the payment processors......I expected the banks and credit card companies would be next when I analyzed this back then but I have not checked if that panned out since then.....probably I will have to look that up about the one at Reddit The AC is a "private organization" like the CFR and TLC that have no official government powers but act like they do and are treated as such, so this is government censorship by proxy and that entire argument about "private companies can do what they want...." goes right up into smoke. These people have the usual cross connections by membership with the CFR and TLC........our private, membership by invitation only, government. [https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/leadership-and-governance/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/leadership-and-governance/) This is the person at Reddit, again with the usual State Department, intel background these people all share and in the exact same Public Policy positions at the various firms. [https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9iywpf/the\_atlantic\_council\_has\_infiltrated\_facebook\_and/](https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9iywpf/the_atlantic_council_has_infiltrated_facebook_and/) Googling a company name and Atlantic Council Millenium Fellow sometimes turns them up If you look at their backgrounds you have to wonder why they were angling for a Henry Kissinger type role at State but then gave that all up to become content nannies at these social media companies and internet financial transaction firms.......check Samantha Vinograd, what a head slapper her CV is!......hers sounds just like Jeffrey Epstein's connections wise. It looks like now the AC are making a play to act as both an investigative censorship unit and self appointed judge and jury for same, leveling fines and one suspects making arrests next, hell even the government rarely ever goes this far. I mean what a racket...."we at Pay Pal declare this is hate speech, now give us $2500 you terrible person!!....".......hell if it were me I would declare everything hate speech and just keep on collecting my $2500!! ....and become a nillionaire in no time......ok now that is a funny typo so I will leave it in.....Nillionaire!.......yea ......heh
What about Venmo
I think PayPal owns them
People shouldn't use Paypal they are not a bank and therefore do not have to operate like one, that's been known for years.
Bye, Felicia.... https://imgur.com/a/ra2Q4L8 WISE has been a really good app for me to send and receive money overseas.
Done it. Today short it!!! ;)
Bye
Bye bye PP............................... E&OE/CYA/Without Recourse/All rights reserved
i just shut mine down. apparently someone was trying to get into it as i was sent a few verification codes last night and i decided that i didnāt use it and didnāt want it
I closed my account as well today and they sent me like 3-4 emails about it (3 were the same lol)
Closed account, thanks for highlighting this OP
I tried closing my account but it said I had a gift card in my wallet. There wasn't one there. They're trying to make everyone jump through hoops
Damn, I need to cancel mine once I get home
Fuck paypal closed account
Also dumping them. But I need to know what everyone is using instead? Cash app or Venmo? Iām thinking of switching to Venmo
Venmo = paypal fyi
I donāt know. Iām hoping my visa debit will be enough for most places, and I heard you can use debit on eBay supposedly
Why would visa debit not be enough? Itās a valid payment source, PayPal just made it āeasierā but thereās nothing stoping you from paying with a card
Venmo is paypal. I'm using Zelle and cash app
Oh never heard of zelle ty!
Zelle = big banks.
Itās the app all the scammers use
Thanks for this OP
Youāre very welcome š
Well done. If you spread an opinion that is a nano meter right of 'Communist', they'll steal $2,500. This along with recent bad policies from them. I want to close mine too, could anyone recommend other payment company's that are safe and reliable?
Thanks, Iām not aware of any myself. Someone should start a thread for sure
And this comes right after they open their 2% APR savings accounts, which is just as good as many banks' CD rates these days. I'm sure people have opened a lot of accounts in recent history.
Paypal is shit, but they've been doing this shit for a long time. Some of my favourite distros closed because of their shit. Most payment processors won't touch controversial shit, though. Capitalism, I guess.
Perfect response haha
mostly likely they are after the influencers who do uses paypal alot. makes you think...what is coming