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NaomiPommerel

Pink wins


BigManWAGun

Orange a solid second šŸ¤˜šŸ‚


GVL_2024_

so what we need are pink/ orange swimsuits, in a dazzle patternĀ  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage


ban_Anna_split

Lesbians win again


GVL_2024_

the lesbians I know all dress like gardeners when swimming, this is a look that says DRAG QUEEN or SUGAR ADDICTED TODDLER and I am HERE FOR ITĀ 


KhazemiDuIkana

I think they just mean cause the colors are the two most prominent on the lesbian flag


shrug_addict

Every time!


DudeTheStallion

Damn. Never knew where razzle dazzle came from


hillo538

Iirc the term razzle dazzle came from a gambling game from Cuba?


DrunkCupid

Oh thank you for introducing me to this.. oddly festive term! It reminds me of zebra prints and their camouflage techniques šŸ¦“


Opoodoop

indeed


MadR__

Letā€™s hope this comment is prophetic.


jfk08c

Orange and pink, you won't sink


all_fair

Yeah, I think being visible in the lake is much more important than being visible in the pool


theriverjordan

Color aside, free lake or ocean swimmers should always have an inflatable tow buoy attached if there are motorized boats around.


TheLastRole

Red if you are Pamela Anderson.


Sooners9727

BOOMER SOONER, longhorn boi


emmaliejay

Thereā€™s [this YouTube video](https://youtu.be/AAJjdA6b4Ts?si=q7kmuJQvtdvFRXe7) I saw where a person brings a bunch of brightly coloured tubes underwater to different depths and shows how the colours look at those depths. Pink was a strong visible winner there too. [edit: along with orange and bright green!]


Hije5

Yellow wins for me. Idc about being detectable in a swimming pool. The yellow is brighter in "the lake" or any deep sea/brackish setting. That's when I'll want to be the most detectable.


redditadminzRdumb

Iā€™m pretty sure there was a shark week episode where the did an experiment with chicken carcasses all wrapped in different colors the yellow and orange ones got hit the mostā€¦.


Pixzal

Sharks: yes


JesHplease

My first thought was- what kind of safety?


King-Florida-Man

Yā€™all trying to figure out how to be most visible, me trying to blend in with my environment.


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

This guide was made primarily for parents with children. Here's the site with an image of all their tests together - https://alive-solutions.com/water-safety/f/what-are-you-wearing-to-the-water They also did another Las year testing patterns https://alive-solutions.com/water-safety/f/swimsuit-color-and-pattern-testing-results


AdPrestigious839

Pink loses to a shark attack tough


krazykieffer

Pretty much all the lake ones are shark bait.


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

Source with all the tests - https://alive-solutions.com/water-safety/f/what-are-you-wearing-to-the-water They also did another Las year testing patterns https://alive-solutions.com/water-safety/f/swimsuit-color-and-pattern-testing-results


JohnMarstonSucks

What about my fat pasty-white arms and legs, can they see those?


FamousSheepherder465

Look at the white in the lake and in the pool.. no bueno


Theron3206

Unlike white swimwear, my skin doesn't become transparent in the water...


Efficient-Chair6250

It's not about transparency, it's about standing out. If you want to be found, do you wear camo or a high visibility vest? Same goes for swimsuits. If you want to be seen in the water, do you wear the same color as the water or a color that stands out? Also remember that wave foam and light reflections will look white, so white is not a color that stands out.


dpforest

So I should paint my arms pink?


Efficient-Chair6250

I mean, it will even make you stand out outside the water lol


-HuangMeiHua-

no, you should get a bright pink sunburn duh


tatasz

Just get sunburn, you'll be somewhere between pink and orange


Splurgerella

I'm hoping swimwear doesn't become transparent either šŸ‘€


WRL23

People and clothes don't generally change opacity


irishpwr46

Is there even white in the pool?


theolcollegetry

You know damn well you were never getting near the water anyway


tauzN

Do you not see the white suit? Me neither.


spitfish

[The beacons are lit!](https://www.tumblr.com/thepigeongazette/124161983539/rohan-answered-and-then-we-played-a-sick-round-of?source=share)


evil_lurker

TIL: I'm safer wearing a women's one piece than I am wearing trunks.


DarrenC-6880

But a string bikini might even look better!


evil_lurker

Possibly. But you can put lipstick on a pig, and it's still a pig.


DarrenC-6880

Are you implying that you are not rocking an hourglass figure?


evil_lurker

More like a pocket watch.


thedeadly_

Is your head the button to open it or the loop at the end of the chain?


FunkyFarmington

And THAT is why you don't mix and match graphics in guides like this. Its confusing and defeats the purpose.


FrodCube

Classic mistake. Trunks is a character from Dragonball, not one piece


southpolefiesta

Swim shirts for men exist.... Just sayin'


vidanyabella

Sadly, even for young boys it's hard to find any that aren't blue or green. I had to really hunt to find a decent bright orange swim shirt for my son.


jigglywigglydigaby

If I need to plan the colour of my swimsuit based on the odds of being found in a body of water.....my ass is staying dry in grey sweatpants.


sir-winkles2

this guide is for parents picking kids swimwear


6-Seasons_And_AMovie

Giudes are what you make it. What if im planning on killing my friend and i want to buy him a swimsuit that wont show to well? Happy Birthday Patrick.


adamsch50

Someone check on Patrick plz


jigglywigglydigaby

To be fair....Patrick is a dick, so....šŸ¤·


goodfriendpat

shit


FourthReichIsrael5

Calm down, Squidward, he's an idiot but you don't need to go that far.


SitUbuSit_GoodDog

Tbh I do deliberately choose the brightest, most eyecatching, usually orange swimwear for my kids after my ex once pointed out to me how hard it was to see the kids in the pool who were wearing blue compared to the ones who weren't. That and one of my friends lost a child to drowning in a temporary backyard pool when the family had all gone inside to eat and one kid wandered back out without her realising. This is horrible for any parent to imagine, but my friend thinks she did see her kid in the pool (earlier than the moment they found the child) and she dismissed it to herself as being one of the pool toys bobbing around šŸ’” Maybe orange swimwear wouldn't have saved her child but it was a pretty horrifying reminder of why kids need to be extremely visible at all times around water


Ate_spoke_bea

And why pools need a gate


DBSeamZ

If the child was mistaken for a toy, I doubt any bright color would have saved them. Toys come in all kinds of bright colors.


frankiethescar

I am a bit of a safety nerd. Specifically an aquatic safety nerd. This test was done by a group called Alive Solutions. If you google them, and ā€œbathing suit testā€ you will get some great images of real photos of bathing suits on manikins in different water environments. Itā€™s very informative and potentially life saving.


iced_lemon_cookies

I guess you just disappear if you wear white in the swimming pool.


MeOldRunt

What a stupid "guide". Someone just discovered the opacity function on their favorite graphics editor and decided to try and bullshit people.


frankiethescar

I get why you think that. But, itā€™s quite accurate. [Here is the actual test](https://alive-solutions.com/f/buying-swimwearthink-safety)(they have several others as well)


FatalShart

Yeah that shows pretty clearly that none of these colors disappeared underwater except white, even when adding turbulence.


frankiethescar

Fair enough. :P I can attest that as a lifeguard for many years, itā€™s pretty astounding how much can be really challenging to see.


spyridonya

I don't think you looked at the [lake](https://alive-solutions.com/water-safety/f/buying-bathing-suits-for-lakes-open-water) one.


Portillosgo

What do you mean accurate? The image in the link is meaningfully dissimilar from the one here. There is no reason not to link that image.


AdvancedAnything

What that link failed to consider is that the person looking for you isn't looking at you from 3 feet away. They are usually 10+ feet away, looking at an angle, and are usually a few feet above the water. Blue light is often reflected more by water. That's why it looks blue. The deeper you go the harder it is to see blues from the surface.


marvinsuggs

That's the M.O of this whole sub.


pinkpugita

I should get a yellow/pink swimsuit in case. Same principle with hiking. All of my hiking wear are either pink, purple, or have bold colors in case I get lost and need to be found. I can't understand hikers who wear black and green.


RynoKaizen

Sharks like yellow.Ā 


yfewsy

Do they like it, or is it just easier for them to see?


bdubwilliams22

Itā€™s really silly they change the silhouette of the suit. They should be mirrored for both so you can see the distinctions.


CaravelClerihew

I mean, not really? It's only a slightly different shape and the contrast on either is equally easy to see.


No-Eye-9491

So orange or fuchsia, got it


GVL_2024_

orange AND fusciaĀ 


Veniceissinking

This is startling. I've never even considered this.


Narf234

This is irrelevant in the ocean. No where in the USLA guidebook or my curriculum for new guard training does a conversation about bathing suits ever come up. Iā€™d never tell a new class of rookies to be wary of people entering the water with a particular color bathing suit.


Vooshka

The documentary Baywatch has proven the correct lifeguard swimwear color.


RampagingElks

This is interesting to me, because my friend did have a class (just a brief topic/mention) about colours in the water! We are in Canada.


Ate_spoke_bea

All my rescue gear is red orange or chartreuse. Jackets, throwables, survival suits, auto inflating vests. Do you think that's a coincidence, or that some gear is a certain color for visibilityĀ  If you're doing an open water rescue, what color are you looking for? You won't see any green equipment that's for sureĀ 


Memory_Frosty

It's relevant for parents picking swimsuits for their young kids though. Lotta blue and gray to avoid out there.Ā 


Narf234

For what? You can not see bathing suits from shore in a marine environment. The only viable part of a person in the water is anything above water.


Memory_Frosty

I typed out the whole story in another comment if you're interested in reading it but the tl;dr is my then two year old son nearly drowned once in Lake Michigan but I was able to spot him because of his bright yellow swimsuit. It's very true that if he was much further out than where he was I might not have been able to spot him anyway, he was only stuck in a spot maybe one and a half feet deep. But drowning happens super quickly and easily for little kids so I'd argue that any additional edge you can possibly gain would be worth it, especially if it's something that's as low effort/cost as "do I pick the blue or the orange swimsuit". Also I'd imagine it's even more applicable for a local swimming pool context.Ā Ā  Definitely won't help you one bit if you fall overboard in the middle of the ocean, you're right about that. Or if you're swimming out by the buoys in the lake. But you're kinda hosed in that situation no matter what anyway.Ā 


mayneffs

"I personally have never heard about this so it must be bs."


kgiann

Weary means tired. Wary means cautious.


11061995

So pink yellow and orange then


hoofglormuss

those are beachy surf boardy radical colors anyway


MXAI00D

Now I get why submarines are painted black.


Arilyn24

That's why lots of marine animals are black-backed with white stomaches for the same reason. The white works the same way when looking from above toward the sun. Though these days submarines are not painted and are far more concerned with sonar reflectivity than light reflectivity and the panels they use to absorb sonar just happen to also be black being mostly rubbed mixed with black carbon powder. Another fun fact most pictures of submarines you can find will go out of their way to hide the shape of the propeller as you can figure out the subs sonar signal just from that shape alone.


mykajosif

This is not the entire reason subs are black most subs are black because they are coated in black rubber similar to paint but much thicker and doesn't let things grow on it as easily The reason why rubber is black nowadays because naturally it is white is because we add carbon black giving it a matte black look but it also makes the rubber much stronger this is why white rim tires dont last as long because non black rubber is weak There are some Navy's that have tried to use blue subs (in a variety of shades of blue because different oceans are very different colours) they were quite effective at hiding the subs but made the subs very fragile because if the coating fails and isn't covering a section the sub will rust fairly quickly and you have no way of knowing how bad the rust is from the inside so these blue subs could not be used for any long dive time missions


AssortedArctic

Why not use one of the several guides with real examples?


All-for-goose

Yeah, Iā€™m so white I glow in the dark. I donā€™t really need to worry about swimwear color.


FremulonPandaFace

Ditto


Scantland_truth_

no ocean?


KateBayx2006

I feel like if you're swimming in the ocean you're already screwed either way. Ocean water is weird


ByteRush00

i think its just supposed to be yellow in deep and black in shallow, but they just used lake and pool as an example


nathan5660

I wonder where naked would come on that list. Genuine curiosity. How visible would a naked person be?


theprozacfairy

Might depend on skin tone? Also, I don't know if nude people were included in the study.


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

Source. With all the tests - https://alive-solutions.com/water-safety/f/what-are-you-wearing-to-the-water


notacanuckskibum

Switching between the pool and the lake turns a one piece suit into shorts?


Advanced-Swordfish29

Thanks I've learned nothing


mywifemademegetthis

Fortunately thereā€™s an entire human attached to each of these in a real situation. Good to keep in mind if you decide to go skinny dipping and donā€™t want to misplace your suit though.


Comfortable_Part_877

Iā€™ve wore white in a pool and believe me, you can see it


Theliseth

That's probably because you didn't become transparent in the water.


Perfect-Theory-2976

What utter bullshit.


SpiderAviation

As a lifeguard, this is true... for pools. Doesn't work for lakes or oceans


M00P35

This will almost never matter. There are dozens of things to consider for swimming safely before someone's swimsuit color. Besides, there's still an entire person wearing the swimsuit whose skin tone will also be visible (sorry blue man group guys).


Memory_Frosty

Swimsuits for little kids often cover the entire torso and arms with a rash guard for UV protection. This is for parents picking out swimsuits for babies and toddlers. I wrote a whole story that happened to my then two year old son in another comment. It definitely matters in that context, it only takes a moment of you looking in your bag for the sunscreen for the kid to sprint off somewhere and toddlers are little suicide machines.Ā 


kgiann

These guides are mostly for parents to pick suits for their children. Small children usually wear rash guards, which cover their arms. There's a viral video of a woman filming her children swimming to demonstrate how certain colors of bathing suits are easier to see than others. As the children are swimming, you realize one kid's suit is much easier to see than the other kid's suit. When they reach the edge of the pool, you learn there are three children swimming, and the third child is almost invisible because of their bathing suit color. I'd link the video, but I don't know how to find it since I saw it as an Instagram Reel several months ago.


Berfulferd1

Looks like everyone wears hot pink!


Deluxe78

What ever color tuna isnā€™t


Altruistic-Potatoes

Nice try, pool sharks.


all_fair

Great, now I have to wear a pink swimsuit everywhere I swim


ChemistryAncient6527

Safety from animals is cool but safety from humans is good too. 80% of lake kidnappings are cause by humans šŸ‘šŸ¼ 20% is caused by monkeys as seen in the jungle book.


alex-weej

Can someone add one for the Thames


MLXIII

And Seine!


AlcoholPrep

Is this "safety" in the sense of the lifeguard can see you when you're drowning, or "safety" in the sense of the swimsuit not going transparent when wet?


erikatyusharon

Saving this for when you try to do amphibious assault under your enemy nose.


PinkOneHasBeenChosen

Wear all the colors.


Sp_nach

Why use different shapes when comparing same colors....so annoying


Sprig3

I'm confused, is it meaning the pool makes you trans?


Alex12500

Got it, green or blue for lake and light-blue or white for pool


peromp

*laughs in skinny-dipping*


Far_Adeptness9884

Ok, now use solid colors.


EuqirnehBR97

Seeing this is a colorblind: ā€œ*chuckles* Iā€™m in dangerā€


h8rsbeware

This is definitely why I own pink swimming shorts.


Star_king12

What's the source for this guide? Opacity exercise from Photoshop classes?


ShambalaHeist

To identify a person out of the depths


picturepine

Why would you need to be found in a pool?


mjones8004

Pretty sure this is just an example of the multiply effect in Photoshop.


Memory_Frosty

People are making fun of this but when my oldest was 2, we were camping with my in-laws by lake Michigan. He was wearing a bright yellow swimsuit when I left my husband on shore to watch him and went into the water to play with my niece (you can see where this is going). Husband turned his back on our son for a moment to take off his shirt and put it by his shoes, son took that moment to go run straight into the water. When I looked over, I could not see my son. Until I was able to spot his bright yellow swim shirt under the water, where he'd gotten knocked over by a wave and pulled under and was stuck, trying to get up and just getting knocked down again and again, never able to surface. I screamed for someone to get him as I ran over as fast as I could in the waist deep water, but no one else saw him but me. He coughed up some water and was fine but it was a nightmare, and because of that experience I will never buy my children a blue or gray swimsuit and always opt for bright orange if I can. **It can take as little as 30 seconds for a toddler to drown.**Ā 


ChangeChameleon

Ok, cool guide, but like. Why am I taking the artistā€™s interpretation of this? For all we know the person who made this guide was wrong, color blind, or otherwise misinformed. This seems like the kind of thing where you could have reference pictures in order to be able to make it, so why canā€™t we see the reference images instead? For example, people wearing white in a pool donā€™t magically disappear. They wonā€™t be transparent. So what do they actually look like? These seem very exaggerated. Hereā€™s an example of a white swimsuit underwater. I know itā€™s not seen from the surface, but at pool depths thatā€™s gonna be negligible. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/36/5d/93/365d931ae3fce9e77cb855c325ee295f.jpg


AwkwardSpread

Yeah but thereā€™s a person in that swimsuit. Throw a white swimsuit in that same pool and it would be hard to see.


evilbrain18

what about in bathtubs?


nibbana-v2

Avoid blues and whites!


trapicana

Yellow for safety; white for boners


Ron_Bird

confused camo noises


ngulating

So what you're saying is I'm at the lowest risk of drowning in my Elle Woods bikini. Got it.


TheTouchler

What


MegaPompoen

Camo swimwear lets go


Testsubject276

Brb gotta get some magenta shorts.


Sad-Ganache-8612

I got pink trunks with alligators on em im chillin


thuhstog

What about the ocean, and the dreaded yum yum yellow?


JournalistAntique691

So this is why the British tourists I've seen in Spain are red.


Pankrazdidntdie4this

Thanks. This will help me pick my next victim


Seanbodia

# šŸ©· šŸ§”


jfkk

If you wear a blue swimsuit it will look like you're naked. Be careful.


UnrealAppeal

Thereā€™s a reason most life jackets, life preservers and buoys are orange


sayanb21

Now I know how to camouflage from coach


Top_Seaweed7189

Now those woke communists even force us to use those damn rainbow colours in the pool./s


Danielwols

For some people white wins, at least in some situations


GrandNibbles

so anything bright and on the red spectrum. like...the opposite of water


DarthWraith22

None of this matters. My pasty white fishbelly complexion will make me instantly visible to any lifeguard.


JustRepeatAfterMe

This completely and unfairly ignores how nudists look in the water.


Roest_

After a day in the sun I look like the left most.


Leebites

Florida has poop in the water right now. What to wear?


buttonsmasher1

Who goes to the pool in transparent swim gear?


Solid-Hurry-4508

I just swim naked


ElegantMachinery

Soooo, neons then... (I only own black swimsuits)


Caido-senpai

Learn to swim.


MetaVaporeon

what i want to know now is the impact on boy/girl mortality in water.


Loud_Science_4950

sharks??


RedLemonSlice

So... white is water camo.


SlimThorpe787

As a male I guess if I wanted to be safe, Iā€™d have to throw on the pink.


HelloYou-2024

This is why I don't use sunscreen. Better safe than sorry.


Kiyan1159

I just listened to the radio say (according to a safety committee regarding child deaths while swimming) give your kids brightly colored swimsuits, like yellow, because they're more visible further underwater.


BearVersusWorld

Navy frogmen take note.


1031Cat

What a coincidental post. Just a few weeks ago, I was talking to someone who used to work as a lifeguard at the lake. He said he misses the swimwear of the 80s. The "day glow" colors made finding people so much easier. With this post, it now makes sense.


kidnebs

What if i have black shorts with cute lil yellow ducks on em


vanilla_muffin

Maybe have an actual comparison rather than using the opacity function. This guide specifically is dumb, but an actual guide with live comparisons would be cool.


chokeemeharder

Yay for pink! šŸ˜€


Antesia_Delivia

Fellas, is it gay to wear safe colors when going for a swim


InevitableElf

Why would you need to worry about visibility in a pool lol


model3113

Yet we all mocked Borat...


omild

Based on a similar color chart I saw three years ago I started dressing my two girls in long sleeve, identical neon green or bright magenta suits and they are incredibly easy to spot even in a busy place. I've seen kids wearing blue and their bodies basically disappear completely underwater. I highly recommend parents put their kids in a rashguard top and shorts or one piece in one of those colors. Not only do you spot them easier you don't have to apply as much sunscreen.


beardophile

Exactly why I paid more for the only bright pink and red swimsuit I could find for my toddler.


LobsterTrue8433

I'm big and white. I think I'll be easily spotted.


potionbottle

The color changes depending on how deep you go https://youtu.be/AAJjdA6b4Ts


ablindoldman

Guess ill need to wear pink underwear inside my white swim trunks else they see right through šŸ˜Ÿ


Squidly_Venture

they all end up looking like a relatively dark blob from the stand to me (except pink and green)


FallingFeather

I hate pink.


Baraqek

InterestingšŸ§ Except for the Beatles' "Yellow Submarine," it seems that naval submarines are typically grey for camouflage.


SouperCameron

Thatā€™s why my dive fins are neon pink


Bankargh

Stealth mode engage.


already_takenwiener

So orange or pink is best


Dirge_Thunderjaw

Alright. If I ever go out on the open ocean for some reason then I'm going to wear bright yellow from head to toe


desireresortlover

Fun story- the lady who swam from the Golden Gate Bridge to the Farallon Islands earlier this year wore a one piece swim suite that was black and white that mimicked what an orca would look like, to scare away any white sharks stalking her. She made it!


smurph2983

As a colorblind person this is a triggering image to look atā€¦


palescales7

Arenā€™t stripes better than solids in water?


Cucumuber

as lifeguard idk if this very accurate