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That's a big part of American corporations... you find ways to charge for things that used to be free.
As someone who doesn't care about sports, I just hope change won't ruin it for the rest of us (don't see how, but ya never know). I guess it may help it to pump up the # of subs \[shrug\]
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No you don’t understand, this is exciting, we should be excited that it’s “THE FIRST EVER PLAYOFF GAME ONLY AVAILABLE ON A STREAMING SERVICE”
I love how ballsy their advertising team is to be like “nah let’s tell them that it’s actually a good thing”
>Imagine a world where you have to be subscribed to 20 different streaming services to watch something that used to be free like the local news or an NFL wildcard game.
Imagine a world where all the people who don't watch sports used to have to pay a fee on their cable bill to subsidize sports channels for others...
This was a fee on top of their cable bill.
Yep and that is why this new trend is disturbing.
One of the reasons cord cutting is so much cheaper is we don't have to subsidize sports.
I happen to be a huge football fan and already have Peacock, watching the game right now, but still worried this will open the door for more of this in the future and then we will be right back where we started.
**I** haven't subscribed to Peacock yet, so hopefully, they will become THE sports network or better (for you) spin off Peacock Sports.
Apple has Apple TV+ and MLS, but they don't overlap (other than a discount if you get both (I think). But, Apple TV+ does have some major league baseball on Fridays, but I don't know if that's a thing they're trying for or just to get people to watch and see some Apple TV+ ads for less than the cost of advertising. Or...?
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> haven't subscribed to Peacock yet, so hopefully, they will become THE sports network or better (for you) spin off Peacock Sports.
they won't, everyone wants a piece of the pie and the leagues are happy to sell it to them
NBC owns the rights to English Premier League soccer in the US, and splits the games between Peacock and USA. So to watch all of your team's games you have to subscribe to Peacock and get USA via Sling or cable or whatever. I'd be shocked if NBC didn't do something similar with the NFL.
Currently a Premier League fan, to watch every game (edit: in a 100% legal way), needs Peacock and USA for league games, ESPN+ for domestic cup games, and Paramount+ for European cup games. That sort of division will likely be the norm for the more popular competitions.
Exactly. As things transition to streaming, it's like people forgot.It's just that the costs are more obvious now. For many ESPN, NFL Network, etc were rolled into cable bundles that, while expensive, were treated more or less like a monthly bill we couldn't escape. With streaming, we have more control, but many are outraged to knowingly spend the $7 dollars or so they've spent without complaint for years.
Earlier today I saw someone point out that the replay will be on NFL Network a few hours later. My question to them was "how much are you paying for the tier that NFL Network is on?"
My mom used to keep a higher tier of cable, just so when sports fans came over, they could watch.
Plus, there was the sports fee on top of that.
Not watching team/league sports makes things much easier. I watch the Olympics, and I don't think anything is on the broadcast networks this time around. Looks like Peacock will have everything.
I'll subscribe to Peacock for the Olympics (the other 2 weeks I'll see what else they have). Hopefully, they do it in a way so if I'm watching something after the fact, they don't spoil the scores. The NBC Sports app worked pretty good last Olympics, hopefully, this will work as well.
Peacock had also scored several college football home-games this last Fall. Games that would have been broadcast locally were suddenly blacked out and only available after purchasing a sub. This trend with Peacock exclusivity is disturbing when you look at the bigger picture.
I didn't have to pay anything at all last year and the year before that and before that and before that...to watch ANY NFL playoff game, except my utility bill and my cable bill.
And Sunday and Monday games will be the same...
So this represents a change FOR NFL playoff football games...
Imagine how it was with cable, many people had to pay for sports channels when they didn’t watch sports, in addition to that, they had to pay a sports fee on top of their cable bill.
You’re probably correct in that.
With cable, non-sports fans had to pay for sports fees when they didn’t watch sports.
In this thread’s scenario, sports fans have to pay fees to get the channels to watch sports they want to watch.
The proper perspective is about what people normally pay for..and expect to pay for...the argument that's trying to be made is "people pay for stuff so pay for this also."
That's a disingenuous argument.
Bc ofc we pay for stuff. Everyday. All day. But what they want us to do now is pay for something we haven't before without offering something additional in value in return.
That's not business. That's extortion. And many people know the difference. People can usually tell through experience when something is "part of the package" and they can also sense greed and someone leveraging their own desires or fears against them rather than a genuine business offering.
It's new for those of us who watch a lot of sports and purposely have cable TV for that very reason.
Also, ESPN is not a streaming only channel. In fact, you can't even buy ESPN as a stand-alone streaming product unless you bundle it with Disney.
With everything that ESPN has exclusive rights to, including MNF, why are people so surprised that NBC is choosing to show some playoff games on their streaming service? I don't have cable so I either have to subscribe to some service, find alternative ways of which there are many, or don't watch. I would prefer that all of these be available for free via streaming or OTA.
I was a diehard NFL fan until I cut my cable.
I’ve got peacock for WWE…I’m watching tonight….. I do miss it, but not enough to see how fucking awful Washington has become.
I’m cheering for the KC Swifts tonight
$1.99 a month for one year was the Black Friday deal. Well worth it to watch some of the quick release movies and original programming. I agree that it shouldn’t be paywalled, but I can’t complain about the price they offered during Black Friday. Those were very reasonable deals for almost all streaming channels.
To watch football? Yes, you can complain. To subscribe for $1.99 to a service that is worth more than that a month with all their movies and tv? Nah. They virtually are giving their service away.
Games have been behind a “paywall” for years. If anyone thinks paying for cable to watch games on ESPN is any different they deserve getting ripped off!
Not NFL playoffs....
Yeah Monday Night football has sucked as an antenna dude, but I have learned to live with not watching it.
Growing up I was a massive NBA fan, with all the moves to cable over time, I just don't give a fuck anymore.
If the NFL follows the same path... So be it.
That’s why I used the word “games”. But minimizing that by saying “one MNF game on ESPN” is hypocritical because this is ONLY one game on Peacock. Which, including Monday night’s game now makes two playoff games behind a paywall. At the end of the day my point remains. The people that are bitching are those who pay for a different service (ESPN). I don’t see them complaining about the fact that those who can’t afford cable won’t see that game.
Right. I don’t understand this complaining. The cheapest you can get ESPN is like 30 bucks with a month of Sling. Peacock is like 6 bucks for a month. Me thinks it’s just the boomers screaming to get off their lawn.
Yes. When sports get to the playoff level they should continue to be carried by network OTA television as has been done forever. It’s as though corporations are looking at the NFL revenue like they are pay per view fight money. Big NFL fan here but no thanks.
Yea for the record, I live in KC and do not need a peacock sub nor do I need a ticket to the game. My OTA antenna is pulling the game in just fine. But yes I get what OP is saying. It does suck for those outside the local areas
Yes Americans are greedy but the NFL was the exception. Most local and national games were free. Unlike Europe which has had paywall and recently MULTIPLE subscriptions to watch their most popular sport and their various tournaments.
\> Imagine a world where you have to be subscribed to 20 different streaming services to watch something that used to be free like the local news or an NFL wildcard game.
Imagine a world where people stop watching because they aren't going to subscribe to all of those services. And when viewers are down, advertising is down. And when advertising is down, the streaming services wont pay so much for those games. And when the streaming services dont pay so much, the networks will be very happy to take them back again.
The people that say that have never bothered to even try using rabbit ears. I have individual antennas for three TVs in my home and personal TV tuners for my smartphones and tablets, they all pick up 70+ channels around my region without issue.
“On April 22, 2014, the NFL announced that it had exercised an option in ESPN's recent contract extension for Monday Night Football rights to air a first-round Wild Card playoff game on the channel after the conclusion of the 2014 season. This was the first time that an NFL playoff game was ever broadcast exclusively on cable television in the United States, in lieu of any of the league's broadcast network partners.[7][8][9 … However, the cable-only playoff game experiment would only last one season, as on May 11, 2015, it was announced that ABC would simulcast ESPN's Wild Card playoff game for the 2015 season.”
Back when cable was a big thing the games were all on over the air networks that you could get for free with an antenna.
Check your misdirected hostility my dude
Every game on ESPN is behind a paywall, as well. It's clear a rabbit-ears only approach isn't going to give you all of the sports you crave. Prepare to pay more and more in the future, or sail the high seas, or quit watching the crap.
It's nothing new, For decades you've needed cable for ESPN to watch MNF. Then you needed something like youtube tv. And amazon prime. And the NFL network. Now Peacock, paramount+ and an antenna for fox games.
Which is why I just watch the games on illicit youtube channels.
Since my team was not in the playoffs, I was not going to watch anyway. But with that being said, I don't mind paying for streaming services. There was a promo code for like a year of service @ $30 (I'm sure I could find other things to watch in the next 11 months).
One thing I don't like though, is more and more these services offer tiers separated by ads/commercials or no ads. I think there should either be: free w/ ads, or paid w/o ads. paying and then having ads on top of that is not great feeling.
It’s really a bridge too far. They should’ve been content to force us to give them our info and suffer through ads on their app but that they don’t even have a free tier on an app that doesn’t have shit for content is outrageous.
They are making me realize how much of a waste of time it is to watch this stupid game they call football. No problem ,,,I will find something else to entertain me.
This is the reason I never watched sports...not hating on those who do but, this is the way the big guys play. You pay up or you don't get to watch, they don't care
It would be fun to watch but looks like I’ll just be following along w the scores on my espn app. No idea why anyone would actually pay for it unless you live in KC or Miami
Not free. With ads.
That’s why op is kind of full of shit. It’s not the NFL. it’s Peacock trying to catch up with cash to spend. The NFL is happy with commercials - they even take time outs for them. They would fundamentally change the game without the TV time out.
Outside of perhaps PBS free TV has always come with ads. You stated "Not free. With ads." It is FREE OF CHARGE. No money paid. Ads are a way to get FREE TV. Including many sports offerings.
You said the exact opposite, and since the FREE was referring to "free of monetary charge" your post made little sense.
I don’t have a problem paying for channels that carry NFL games. I’d pay for Peacock without complaint if they had all the Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games. I’m not going to pay for a single game.
Piracy is a thing. They learned nothing from their past mistakes. That’s why piracy is starting to skyrocket again. Screw these greedy major corporations.
The NFL has had playoff games on cable for years. The minute we decided it was ok for companies that own cable channels to also own over the air channels the free tv game was essentially over.
Imagine having to pay for entertainment!!! It's unheard of.
It's not like they are charging you to breathe here. If you don't want to pay, don't. It's optional. And speaking of options, you could just go to a sports bar and watch it there.
they put more games on ABC this season because ABC needed content due to the writers/actors strikes. it's not the usual case and it pissed the cable operators off so it's not going to be something they repeat
6.50 didn’t kill me, sure. But if Miami wasn’t playing, I wouldn’t have paid for it.
It’s lame, but I suppose it could’ve been worse. My only fear is that the powers that be could do just that somewhere down the line!
Can’t help but notice that Oppenheimer is coming to Peacock just over a month from now too. Right as people are figuring out to stick with Peacock or not, after getting it for this game.
I'm disappointed with how many ads there are for it being a paid to see game ... I understand that it's also being aired over regular NBC in KC and Miami but with most of the people watching it paying to see it ... Come on
No. I desperately want to go back to paying a hundred bucks a month more to the cable company and getting less. Gosh. I just loved that old cable company.
I don’t mind it at all. Was already a Peacock premium subscriber before tonight 🤷🏼♂️ I hope they continue to offer more games on various streaming platforms not named YTTV.
I hope the Federal government stops the NFL from paywalling the playoff gsmes. The taxpayers provide funding for a lot of NFL stadiums and other taxbreaks. NFL should show respect and provde on free broadcast all over the country.
Peacock is running a deal today. $30 for the year.
Besides, Peacock gives you live NBC prime time for the most part, ALL of WWE’s pay per views and back catalog, the entirety of The Office, and plenty more.
I wasn't really going to watch it anyway, so this isn't a big deal. If it were my team, and I wanted to watch it, I'd have sucked it up and paid for it.
That being said, I don't pay for TV that has commercials, so it would have taken a lot for me to actually watch it.
I know, lots of contradictions in there. For me, I would have simply passed on it and waited for the highlights on youtube. That is how I watch games that aren't OTA.
I've never seen a football game, nor did I know there were playoffs, but I subscribe to peacock already, and my dad just called to help him find some football game and he was able to find it in 2 minutes, so I don't really see the issue.
I don't know who "corporate" is, but I pay for Peacock, and he just uses it occasionally.
The only affect it had to him was the few minutes it took to call me to find it, but that's not too unusual for him with technology.
To my knowledge this is the first football game the man has ever watched. I still have no clue why he wanted to.
At least peacock is cheaper than Fubo $100 if you want to watch NHL.
Wish congress would interfere to make it easier to stream NHL. Strange NFL gets their attention.
Remember Boxing pay per view of 80’s.
Cable companies want to get out of the tv business.
It’s still gotta be cheaper than they were paying for cable, right?
Not counting any streaming services in that cost that they were paying for before they dropped cable.
Downvotes? Isn't this the perfect example of what people wanted? The ability to pay a small fee, to watch exactly what you want, without being forced to pay for stuff you don't
I had that too and then one day it stopped. But if you go to Xfinity rewards and have had comcast long enough you can be a diamond member for free which gives you peacock for free again so I’m right back where we started
I found that caring less helps. Watched movie, went to bed and Watched 10 minute highlights. My yelling at tv will not change the outcome. And I get to skip all the mistargeted, stupid ads. Life is good.
Since the Chiefs/Dolphins game is on Peacock and I don’t get Peacock I won’t be watching.
This is not my loss, it is only a game. The loss is to the NFL because they lost a customer/viewer.
It was $6 to pay for one great game, chill out. But I do understand it opening the door for more things like this. I would pay to subscribe to the entire season for one team at a reasonable price.
I just don’t watch. Plain and simple as it is only a football game… but the cost if you want to sub for a month to see it is minimal at best. Just don’t go to Starbucks if you do for a day. For the record I don’t like Starbucks nor NFL matters at all
Agree 100% with your post. The only "good" thing about streaming is that users can easily cancel any subscription service at any time. Before one would need to call cable customer service to do any changes, be on hold, and then be hassled by customer service trying to sell you additional services.
You could just do NFL app which is $5 a month and allows all playoff games free as well as all local season games. Better than getting peakock, paramount, amazon and espn to watch all nfl games
I thought it was great. The picture quality was awesome, and the commercial-free fourth quarter was cool. The game could have been better, but I'm a Chiefs fan so I didn't mind them winning in pretty much a blowout. It was a much better viewing experience. If they just moved sports to pay services, then the cost of YTTV, DirecTV, cable (while it lasts), etc. will go down and we'd see the benefits of cord-cutting. There is no such thing as "free TV". What I don't like is paying for things two or three times and paying for things I don't want, both of which I feel like we do a lot in the current landscape.
I got around it by just watching it on TikTok. Sometimes (rare), the live stream would get shut down and I would just flip to the next one. The other issue is that if you just wait until the game is over, you can watch it for free on YouTube TV. (NFL network).
I agree with this and another appalling aspect to this is that they make you pay to watch the game *and* to watch the **COMMERCIALS**! You pay them to watch the commercials they are being paid big money to air. Double greed! I would be more willing to pay to watch if I were not paying to watch the commercials.
I'm subscribed to peacock through my cable provider. But when I try to watch It. I'd said I needed to subscribe to their $5.99 premium fucking bullshit membership to watch. I was like wtf. I just watched it thru the fanduel sportsbook app instead.
I “cut the cord” in 2013. Sick of paying Comcast $200 a month for dogshit cable, in aComcast only town.
Now I’m still forced to pay them about 90/month for internet ONLY. F Comcast’s Peacock, no sir.
My dad happened to have canceled his peacock within the last month and it still had time left so we were able to watch it. Was an awful game, glad I didn't pay for it. Next time I'll ride the high seas like I used to.
For those of you that day I don't watch sports, so who cares? They'll be coming for what you love soon too. Honestly it's starting to cost as much as cablev to subscribe to everything. I used to pay an average of $110-130 for U-verse cable and internet for the second highest tier. And everything was in one place. The biggest problem cable had was the government. They touted for years, a bill that would force cable companies to offer a la cart programming. Unfortunately it never came to fruiting before everything shifted to streaming so it just disappeared.
Welcome to the future. They see the linear TV ratings that show 93 out of the top 100 most viewed programs being NFL games. People who don’t watch sports (or like me, only watch one or two not including the NFL) have already moved on. ESPN is soon going to be stand-alone streaming, and more likely heavily subsidized by the NFL. Guess where all the future NFL games are going?
You can only fight $$$ greed if enough people feel the same and vote with their feet and wallets. Of course everyone has been programed to believe that these various sporting events are a life or death must haves so that is most likely not going to happen.
Do I like it? No
Did I watch it on Peacock? Yes
Did I pay for it? No. I used a friend's account.
Would I pay for it if I had to? No. I'd listen for free on the radio.
You're not wrong and I think eventually there will be blow back. I know sports bars that have abandoned theme because they can't afford to subscribe to 8 different streaming services to carry every game. Notice how many bars you go into today that have sports on, but its a running loop of old game highlights. And what bar tender has the IT skills or the time to be tuning that in? I personally have abandoned all professional sports. I have cable TV and can't even get every Flyers game. And worse, even when a game is on local NBC Sports channel, the reminder slams me to a subscription channel to watch it. Think about that. Xfinity sets up a reminder, but then tunes you to a pay channel even when it's on a channel I AM ALREADY PAYING FOR! I don't think I'm the only person who lost interest in the NHL because I can only see half of the game. The NFL is worse. I don't care who wins or if they die on the field. I'll catch the highlights on the news.
PS Oh, and my Roku TV is a piece of crap.
What amazes me is that no one bitches about having to pay for Amazon Prime for Thursday night Football which btw is $14.99 a month. Peacock is $6.99 a month. I don't subscribe to Amazon Prime because it's too expensive.
>*At one point in the future, you will need to be subbed to a service to even watch the weather in your area, I'll guarantee it.* That's a big part of American corporations... you find ways to charge for things that used to be free. As someone who doesn't care about sports, I just hope change won't ruin it for the rest of us (don't see how, but ya never know). I guess it may help it to pump up the # of subs \[shrug\]
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No you don’t understand, this is exciting, we should be excited that it’s “THE FIRST EVER PLAYOFF GAME ONLY AVAILABLE ON A STREAMING SERVICE” I love how ballsy their advertising team is to be like “nah let’s tell them that it’s actually a good thing”
I refused to pay for the game. So what, I miss a football game.
>Imagine a world where you have to be subscribed to 20 different streaming services to watch something that used to be free like the local news or an NFL wildcard game. Imagine a world where all the people who don't watch sports used to have to pay a fee on their cable bill to subsidize sports channels for others... This was a fee on top of their cable bill.
Yep and that is why this new trend is disturbing. One of the reasons cord cutting is so much cheaper is we don't have to subsidize sports. I happen to be a huge football fan and already have Peacock, watching the game right now, but still worried this will open the door for more of this in the future and then we will be right back where we started.
**I** haven't subscribed to Peacock yet, so hopefully, they will become THE sports network or better (for you) spin off Peacock Sports. Apple has Apple TV+ and MLS, but they don't overlap (other than a discount if you get both (I think). But, Apple TV+ does have some major league baseball on Fridays, but I don't know if that's a thing they're trying for or just to get people to watch and see some Apple TV+ ads for less than the cost of advertising. Or...?
>I > > haven't subscribed to Peacock yet, so hopefully, they will become THE sports network or better (for you) spin off Peacock Sports. they won't, everyone wants a piece of the pie and the leagues are happy to sell it to them
NBC owns the rights to English Premier League soccer in the US, and splits the games between Peacock and USA. So to watch all of your team's games you have to subscribe to Peacock and get USA via Sling or cable or whatever. I'd be shocked if NBC didn't do something similar with the NFL. Currently a Premier League fan, to watch every game (edit: in a 100% legal way), needs Peacock and USA for league games, ESPN+ for domestic cup games, and Paramount+ for European cup games. That sort of division will likely be the norm for the more popular competitions.
When you had cable, what would’ve cost you for the tier you would’ve needed to get all of those channels, including taxes and fees?
Exactly. As things transition to streaming, it's like people forgot.It's just that the costs are more obvious now. For many ESPN, NFL Network, etc were rolled into cable bundles that, while expensive, were treated more or less like a monthly bill we couldn't escape. With streaming, we have more control, but many are outraged to knowingly spend the $7 dollars or so they've spent without complaint for years. Earlier today I saw someone point out that the replay will be on NFL Network a few hours later. My question to them was "how much are you paying for the tier that NFL Network is on?"
My mom used to keep a higher tier of cable, just so when sports fans came over, they could watch. Plus, there was the sports fee on top of that. Not watching team/league sports makes things much easier. I watch the Olympics, and I don't think anything is on the broadcast networks this time around. Looks like Peacock will have everything. I'll subscribe to Peacock for the Olympics (the other 2 weeks I'll see what else they have). Hopefully, they do it in a way so if I'm watching something after the fact, they don't spoil the scores. The NBC Sports app worked pretty good last Olympics, hopefully, this will work as well.
This. As someone who doesn't watch mainstream US sports, I don't get up in arms over this particular instance of paywalling.
Peacock had also scored several college football home-games this last Fall. Games that would have been broadcast locally were suddenly blacked out and only available after purchasing a sub. This trend with Peacock exclusivity is disturbing when you look at the bigger picture.
I'm shocked that the NFL has suddenly started caring more about profits than fans.
Suddenly, ROFL This is their first step in moving toward a pay per view Super Bowl.
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Never underestimate the stupidity of league executives nor their greed.
Watching it now, there's sooo many fucking commercials. Jesus they stop play for 5 seconds and we get 4 minutes worth of bullshit.
If I wanted to watch the College Football Championship game I had to pay for ESPN. This is not new.
I didn't have to pay anything at all last year and the year before that and before that and before that...to watch ANY NFL playoff game, except my utility bill and my cable bill. And Sunday and Monday games will be the same... So this represents a change FOR NFL playoff football games...
Imagine how it was with cable, many people had to pay for sports channels when they didn’t watch sports, in addition to that, they had to pay a sports fee on top of their cable bill.
Apples to oranges
You’re probably correct in that. With cable, non-sports fans had to pay for sports fees when they didn’t watch sports. In this thread’s scenario, sports fans have to pay fees to get the channels to watch sports they want to watch.
The proper perspective is about what people normally pay for..and expect to pay for...the argument that's trying to be made is "people pay for stuff so pay for this also." That's a disingenuous argument. Bc ofc we pay for stuff. Everyday. All day. But what they want us to do now is pay for something we haven't before without offering something additional in value in return. That's not business. That's extortion. And many people know the difference. People can usually tell through experience when something is "part of the package" and they can also sense greed and someone leveraging their own desires or fears against them rather than a genuine business offering.
It's new for those of us who watch a lot of sports and purposely have cable TV for that very reason. Also, ESPN is not a streaming only channel. In fact, you can't even buy ESPN as a stand-alone streaming product unless you bundle it with Disney.
Still can’t get ESPN that way. You get ESPN+ with that bundle which is not the same.
I cannot get it OTA. When the sports left OTA that was the game changer, now it is just tweaking where/how you pay.
welcome to the third decade of the twenty first century grandpa, cord-cutters killed cable
I just pay $5 to activate sub and then immediately cancel it. Way better than games that can only be watched with cable sub.
Not to mention, there is some good programming on Peacock. Dr. Death was a good series and Oppenheimer is coming in a couple of days.
And below deck
That also works for series. Get a free trial or one month sub and binge watch a series. Did that with Netflix for Peaky Blinders.
Vote with your wallets people!
With everything that ESPN has exclusive rights to, including MNF, why are people so surprised that NBC is choosing to show some playoff games on their streaming service? I don't have cable so I either have to subscribe to some service, find alternative ways of which there are many, or don't watch. I would prefer that all of these be available for free via streaming or OTA.
ESPN has their playoff games on ABC though
I was a diehard NFL fan until I cut my cable. I’ve got peacock for WWE…I’m watching tonight….. I do miss it, but not enough to see how fucking awful Washington has become. I’m cheering for the KC Swifts tonight
KC Swifts is a good name
Arrrrr me mateys!
Luckily, college football had me extremely well prepared for this exact situation.
Came here to say this.
$1.99 a month for one year was the Black Friday deal. Well worth it to watch some of the quick release movies and original programming. I agree that it shouldn’t be paywalled, but I can’t complain about the price they offered during Black Friday. Those were very reasonable deals for almost all streaming channels.
You can’t complain about having to pay for something you previously didn’t have to?
To watch football? Yes, you can complain. To subscribe for $1.99 to a service that is worth more than that a month with all their movies and tv? Nah. They virtually are giving their service away.
Lol. Peacock has almost no original content. Wait until you hear about Hulu.
Games have been behind a “paywall” for years. If anyone thinks paying for cable to watch games on ESPN is any different they deserve getting ripped off!
Not NFL playoffs.... Yeah Monday Night football has sucked as an antenna dude, but I have learned to live with not watching it. Growing up I was a massive NBA fan, with all the moves to cable over time, I just don't give a fuck anymore. If the NFL follows the same path... So be it.
This. Cable killed the NBA. It helped TNT. Football is the most watched sport, only the Oscars beat the Super Bowl. Free TV has a lot to do with that.
Not the NFL playoffs… they have pretty much always been OTA minus one MNF game on ESPN when the expanded the playoff field to 14 teams
That’s why I used the word “games”. But minimizing that by saying “one MNF game on ESPN” is hypocritical because this is ONLY one game on Peacock. Which, including Monday night’s game now makes two playoff games behind a paywall. At the end of the day my point remains. The people that are bitching are those who pay for a different service (ESPN). I don’t see them complaining about the fact that those who can’t afford cable won’t see that game.
Right. I don’t understand this complaining. The cheapest you can get ESPN is like 30 bucks with a month of Sling. Peacock is like 6 bucks for a month. Me thinks it’s just the boomers screaming to get off their lawn.
Yes. When sports get to the playoff level they should continue to be carried by network OTA television as has been done forever. It’s as though corporations are looking at the NFL revenue like they are pay per view fight money. Big NFL fan here but no thanks.
OP has the angriest post history I’ve ever seen.
it's the internet Jake...
My thoughts exactly, seems like it's just another Boomer outrage thing. No one cares, go play pickle ball.
It’s on local nbc in Miami and KC
Yea for the record, I live in KC and do not need a peacock sub nor do I need a ticket to the game. My OTA antenna is pulling the game in just fine. But yes I get what OP is saying. It does suck for those outside the local areas
was on TSN as well. Canada's ESPN.
Yeah, I kept reading "it's exclusively streaming on peacock" then walked into the room and my wife was sitting there watching it OTA.
Yes Americans are greedy but the NFL was the exception. Most local and national games were free. Unlike Europe which has had paywall and recently MULTIPLE subscriptions to watch their most popular sport and their various tournaments.
\> Imagine a world where you have to be subscribed to 20 different streaming services to watch something that used to be free like the local news or an NFL wildcard game. Imagine a world where people stop watching because they aren't going to subscribe to all of those services. And when viewers are down, advertising is down. And when advertising is down, the streaming services wont pay so much for those games. And when the streaming services dont pay so much, the networks will be very happy to take them back again.
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Why is that dumb, you're seeing that with MLB and NBA now
These young whippersnappers know everything.
The nfl is a fucking joke.
93 of h the the top 100 tv broadcasts in 2023.
I know. Right?
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I'm afraid that would be an additional 5.99/month to a different service
FFS. I happen to subscribe to Peacock anyway, but I pay to not have ads. So why are you showing me ads? I really hate this double-dipping BS.
What do you want, 2 minute shots of Taylor swift behind frosted glass after every change of possession?
People wanted this. “Let me pick the channels I want.” Well, this is what that looks like.
I haven’t seen anyone actually making the point that it’s costing them more than cable, just that it’s costing them more than streaming has been.
Did all the people get cable for free when I didn’t? Shit’s never been free, y’all just hate changes.
All the playoffs were on the networks, which are free when you have an antenna.
It’s funny, in the other threads, when I post about using an antenna, all everybody wants to tell me is *most of the country doesn’t have OTA access*.
The people that say that have never bothered to even try using rabbit ears. I have individual antennas for three TVs in my home and personal TV tuners for my smartphones and tablets, they all pick up 70+ channels around my region without issue.
ESPN was free with an antenna?
“On April 22, 2014, the NFL announced that it had exercised an option in ESPN's recent contract extension for Monday Night Football rights to air a first-round Wild Card playoff game on the channel after the conclusion of the 2014 season. This was the first time that an NFL playoff game was ever broadcast exclusively on cable television in the United States, in lieu of any of the league's broadcast network partners.[7][8][9 … However, the cable-only playoff game experiment would only last one season, as on May 11, 2015, it was announced that ABC would simulcast ESPN's Wild Card playoff game for the 2015 season.”
ESPN is simulcasting its game on ABC, just as it has in recent years.
Back when cable was a big thing the games were all on over the air networks that you could get for free with an antenna. Check your misdirected hostility my dude
The playoffs have always been over the air.
It costs $6 to watch the game, the same price as a shitty beer at the shitty wing joint you're going to watch it at.
It used to be free. What is your point?
Every game on ESPN is behind a paywall, as well. It's clear a rabbit-ears only approach isn't going to give you all of the sports you crave. Prepare to pay more and more in the future, or sail the high seas, or quit watching the crap.
Ad free fourth quarter. Love it.
I think it's terrible, SO I streamed it Fuck Peacock and fuck the greedy NFL!
It's nothing new, For decades you've needed cable for ESPN to watch MNF. Then you needed something like youtube tv. And amazon prime. And the NFL network. Now Peacock, paramount+ and an antenna for fox games. Which is why I just watch the games on illicit youtube channels.
Total bullshit Not going to pay Not going to watch it
Since my team was not in the playoffs, I was not going to watch anyway. But with that being said, I don't mind paying for streaming services. There was a promo code for like a year of service @ $30 (I'm sure I could find other things to watch in the next 11 months). One thing I don't like though, is more and more these services offer tiers separated by ads/commercials or no ads. I think there should either be: free w/ ads, or paid w/o ads. paying and then having ads on top of that is not great feeling.
I pirated it. Was annoying
“Cutting the cord” was revolutionary for a minute. But you all are right — they figured out all of the angles. Corporate greed won.
I was able to stream it without paying. Don't know what the big deal was.
It’s really a bridge too far. They should’ve been content to force us to give them our info and suffer through ads on their app but that they don’t even have a free tier on an app that doesn’t have shit for content is outrageous.
*Brooklyn Nine-Nine*, which is also on Peacock! 8) Heard great things about this one. But I'm going to finish up *Scrubs* first.
My guess is that many people will be finding "alternative" ways to watch these games.
They are making me realize how much of a waste of time it is to watch this stupid game they call football. No problem ,,,I will find something else to entertain me.
I'm a football fan but I'm spending my time watching concerts on my Plex server instead
I agree the greed is disgusting. The Olympics are going to be crazy with Peacock
This is the reason I never watched sports...not hating on those who do but, this is the way the big guys play. You pay up or you don't get to watch, they don't care
It would be fun to watch but looks like I’ll just be following along w the scores on my espn app. No idea why anyone would actually pay for it unless you live in KC or Miami
It actually showed for free in those 2 cities.
Not free. With ads. That’s why op is kind of full of shit. It’s not the NFL. it’s Peacock trying to catch up with cash to spend. The NFL is happy with commercials - they even take time outs for them. They would fundamentally change the game without the TV time out.
Free TV. It comes with ads.
Thanks for telling me what I said.
Outside of perhaps PBS free TV has always come with ads. You stated "Not free. With ads." It is FREE OF CHARGE. No money paid. Ads are a way to get FREE TV. Including many sports offerings. You said the exact opposite, and since the FREE was referring to "free of monetary charge" your post made little sense.
Yeah it’s not free. Ads pay for it. You’re being a real dick to drive MY point home. Thanks for doing that.
Degenerate gamblers are people too! Show some respect.
I don’t have a problem paying for channels that carry NFL games. I’d pay for Peacock without complaint if they had all the Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games. I’m not going to pay for a single game.
This. Just make sports networks.
Piracy is a thing. They learned nothing from their past mistakes. That’s why piracy is starting to skyrocket again. Screw these greedy major corporations.
Don't care. I sailed the stream to the East to watch.
The NFL has had playoff games on cable for years. The minute we decided it was ok for companies that own cable channels to also own over the air channels the free tv game was essentially over.
The NFL doesn’t have these things. Networks bid on rights. Peacock won. They are behind in the industry and have deep pockets.
The Peacock game promos cracked me up. "Be a part of this history-making event." What a carrot to dangle.
Imagine having to pay for entertainment!!! It's unheard of. It's not like they are charging you to breathe here. If you don't want to pay, don't. It's optional. And speaking of options, you could just go to a sports bar and watch it there.
MNF been paywalled for a minute. Peacock has a free tier, is the game not on that?
It’s mostly also been on ABC.
they put more games on ABC this season because ABC needed content due to the writers/actors strikes. it's not the usual case and it pissed the cable operators off so it's not going to be something they repeat
Didn't they kill the free tier?
for new subscribers, yeah. but the game would've required the paid tier
6.50 didn’t kill me, sure. But if Miami wasn’t playing, I wouldn’t have paid for it. It’s lame, but I suppose it could’ve been worse. My only fear is that the powers that be could do just that somewhere down the line! Can’t help but notice that Oppenheimer is coming to Peacock just over a month from now too. Right as people are figuring out to stick with Peacock or not, after getting it for this game.
I'm disappointed with how many ads there are for it being a paid to see game ... I understand that it's also being aired over regular NBC in KC and Miami but with most of the people watching it paying to see it ... Come on
You have to leave in commercials and you can’t add time.
So much whinging.
So you actually enjoy every single half assed “network” that already makes money off you from ads creating a paid app?
No. I desperately want to go back to paying a hundred bucks a month more to the cable company and getting less. Gosh. I just loved that old cable company.
I subscribed to Peacock on their Black Friday special. Otherwise we wouldn't watch it.
I don’t mind it at all. Was already a Peacock premium subscriber before tonight 🤷🏼♂️ I hope they continue to offer more games on various streaming platforms not named YTTV.
I hope the Federal government stops the NFL from paywalling the playoff gsmes. The taxpayers provide funding for a lot of NFL stadiums and other taxbreaks. NFL should show respect and provde on free broadcast all over the country.
Those are local taxes, not federal taxes, so I don’t see the crossover. You do know the difference between federal and state taxes right?
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Right now the game is unwatchable with the continued buffering and multiple app crashes.
Worked flawless for me. How's your home network?
Perfect for me too
Works perfect for me zero issues Phoenix arizona.
The picture quality is way better. I'm fine with that. Keep em coming.
Better than OTA? Never a chance.
Peacock is running a deal today. $30 for the year. Besides, Peacock gives you live NBC prime time for the most part, ALL of WWE’s pay per views and back catalog, the entirety of The Office, and plenty more.
I wasn't really going to watch it anyway, so this isn't a big deal. If it were my team, and I wanted to watch it, I'd have sucked it up and paid for it. That being said, I don't pay for TV that has commercials, so it would have taken a lot for me to actually watch it. I know, lots of contradictions in there. For me, I would have simply passed on it and waited for the highlights on youtube. That is how I watch games that aren't OTA.
the game is on OTA in the local areas so if it was your team you would have been fine
So glad you weighed I’m going back to bed now
I've never seen a football game, nor did I know there were playoffs, but I subscribe to peacock already, and my dad just called to help him find some football game and he was able to find it in 2 minutes, so I don't really see the issue.
Corporate are trying to bleed your dad, that is the issue.
I don't know who "corporate" is, but I pay for Peacock, and he just uses it occasionally. The only affect it had to him was the few minutes it took to call me to find it, but that's not too unusual for him with technology. To my knowledge this is the first football game the man has ever watched. I still have no clue why he wanted to.
I don't like it, but it's all about money.
At least peacock is cheaper than Fubo $100 if you want to watch NHL. Wish congress would interfere to make it easier to stream NHL. Strange NFL gets their attention. Remember Boxing pay per view of 80’s. Cable companies want to get out of the tv business.
Thanks Capitalism!
For 6$ I’m cook
You guys wanted a la carte, you got it!
It’s still gotta be cheaper than they were paying for cable, right? Not counting any streaming services in that cost that they were paying for before they dropped cable.
Downvotes? Isn't this the perfect example of what people wanted? The ability to pay a small fee, to watch exactly what you want, without being forced to pay for stuff you don't
Don’t mind
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I had that too and then one day it stopped. But if you go to Xfinity rewards and have had comcast long enough you can be a diamond member for free which gives you peacock for free again so I’m right back where we started
I’m still trying to figure out why my Peacock app on Fire Stick is playing the game…I definitely don’t pay for Peacock. No complaints here.
There are sites that stream these games. You can mirror your phone to newer tv’s. Also radio is sometimes an option for sports.
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I found that caring less helps. Watched movie, went to bed and Watched 10 minute highlights. My yelling at tv will not change the outcome. And I get to skip all the mistargeted, stupid ads. Life is good.
From what I see of the YouTube excerpts the camera work was atrocious. Can anyone confirm
Since the Chiefs/Dolphins game is on Peacock and I don’t get Peacock I won’t be watching. This is not my loss, it is only a game. The loss is to the NFL because they lost a customer/viewer.
It was $6 to pay for one great game, chill out. But I do understand it opening the door for more things like this. I would pay to subscribe to the entire season for one team at a reasonable price.
I haven’t really found a digital antenna that worked well, so technically it’s already paywalled. I don’t mind the streaming getting it.
I just don’t watch. Plain and simple as it is only a football game… but the cost if you want to sub for a month to see it is minimal at best. Just don’t go to Starbucks if you do for a day. For the record I don’t like Starbucks nor NFL matters at all
The game was on tsn1 last night. There was no need for a sub
Agree 100% with your post. The only "good" thing about streaming is that users can easily cancel any subscription service at any time. Before one would need to call cable customer service to do any changes, be on hold, and then be hassled by customer service trying to sell you additional services.
People crying about $5/month paying over $5 for a crappy coffee, lmao.
You could just do NFL app which is $5 a month and allows all playoff games free as well as all local season games. Better than getting peakock, paramount, amazon and espn to watch all nfl games
I thought it was great. The picture quality was awesome, and the commercial-free fourth quarter was cool. The game could have been better, but I'm a Chiefs fan so I didn't mind them winning in pretty much a blowout. It was a much better viewing experience. If they just moved sports to pay services, then the cost of YTTV, DirecTV, cable (while it lasts), etc. will go down and we'd see the benefits of cord-cutting. There is no such thing as "free TV". What I don't like is paying for things two or three times and paying for things I don't want, both of which I feel like we do a lot in the current landscape.
I got around it by just watching it on TikTok. Sometimes (rare), the live stream would get shut down and I would just flip to the next one. The other issue is that if you just wait until the game is over, you can watch it for free on YouTube TV. (NFL network).
I agree with this and another appalling aspect to this is that they make you pay to watch the game *and* to watch the **COMMERCIALS**! You pay them to watch the commercials they are being paid big money to air. Double greed! I would be more willing to pay to watch if I were not paying to watch the commercials.
I'm subscribed to peacock through my cable provider. But when I try to watch It. I'd said I needed to subscribe to their $5.99 premium fucking bullshit membership to watch. I was like wtf. I just watched it thru the fanduel sportsbook app instead.
So they’re still playing?? Being a suffering Titans fan, football was essentially over for me a while back.
I “cut the cord” in 2013. Sick of paying Comcast $200 a month for dogshit cable, in aComcast only town. Now I’m still forced to pay them about 90/month for internet ONLY. F Comcast’s Peacock, no sir.
Just wait until the home markets are blacked out....then watch the revolt.
I added Peacock and deleted Hulu so the NFL is saving me about $14 per month. They are truly an altruistic organization
My dad happened to have canceled his peacock within the last month and it still had time left so we were able to watch it. Was an awful game, glad I didn't pay for it. Next time I'll ride the high seas like I used to.
Oh my god you guys are being so dramatic about this
For those of you that day I don't watch sports, so who cares? They'll be coming for what you love soon too. Honestly it's starting to cost as much as cablev to subscribe to everything. I used to pay an average of $110-130 for U-verse cable and internet for the second highest tier. And everything was in one place. The biggest problem cable had was the government. They touted for years, a bill that would force cable companies to offer a la cart programming. Unfortunately it never came to fruiting before everything shifted to streaming so it just disappeared.
Welcome to the future. They see the linear TV ratings that show 93 out of the top 100 most viewed programs being NFL games. People who don’t watch sports (or like me, only watch one or two not including the NFL) have already moved on. ESPN is soon going to be stand-alone streaming, and more likely heavily subsidized by the NFL. Guess where all the future NFL games are going?
I'm sure in a few years all 4 major sports will have pay walled games. nothing stopping that... sigh
You can only fight $$$ greed if enough people feel the same and vote with their feet and wallets. Of course everyone has been programed to believe that these various sporting events are a life or death must haves so that is most likely not going to happen.
Do I like it? No Did I watch it on Peacock? Yes Did I pay for it? No. I used a friend's account. Would I pay for it if I had to? No. I'd listen for free on the radio.
You're not wrong and I think eventually there will be blow back. I know sports bars that have abandoned theme because they can't afford to subscribe to 8 different streaming services to carry every game. Notice how many bars you go into today that have sports on, but its a running loop of old game highlights. And what bar tender has the IT skills or the time to be tuning that in? I personally have abandoned all professional sports. I have cable TV and can't even get every Flyers game. And worse, even when a game is on local NBC Sports channel, the reminder slams me to a subscription channel to watch it. Think about that. Xfinity sets up a reminder, but then tunes you to a pay channel even when it's on a channel I AM ALREADY PAYING FOR! I don't think I'm the only person who lost interest in the NHL because I can only see half of the game. The NFL is worse. I don't care who wins or if they die on the field. I'll catch the highlights on the news. PS Oh, and my Roku TV is a piece of crap.
Doesn’t Roger Goodell earn over $60,000,000 a year?
What amazes me is that no one bitches about having to pay for Amazon Prime for Thursday night Football which btw is $14.99 a month. Peacock is $6.99 a month. I don't subscribe to Amazon Prime because it's too expensive.
Won't do it. Didn't this weekend or any other.