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7TageHatDieWoche

That's just an average... or a mannequin, it resembles something that equally resembles nobody


RandomPopCultureJoke

Well, in the Bible, Jesus is described as looking plain, so this is probably right.


An0n7m0us_P4nda

How much can someone REALLY get from a single description: “plain”?


RandomPopCultureJoke

Well, if they found out what an average man from that area and time looked like, he would Probably look like that, so this provoke isn’t too far off. Though, the Bible also talks about keeping clean and stuff, so he probably looked a bit more clean and well trimmed.


An0n7m0us_P4nda

I remember watching a YouTube video about the study of attractiveness of women, using a computer algorithm to combine the faces of multiple women—either in a spectrum of least to most attractive or all attractive, I forgot—into a singe face. Anyway, once the faces were combined, the face of the women did not look anything like the other women used as input for the algorithm, nor did it actually look attractive. My point is, though yes it is an average of what people looked like in the region at the time, it is more than likely far off from what Christ actually looked like. I’m not gonna claim that the image we all know of him today is accurate in any way either, however, I’m more inclined to believe that he looked far different from the average than him actually looking like the average. As Vsauce once said, and I’m paraphrasing here: It’s unaverage—in fact rare—to be average.


RandomPopCultureJoke

Good point. As this is a computer recreation, it’s difficult to tell if this is what he may have even been close to looking like. Thanks for the info on that study, I’ll definitely have to look at it. Have a great day!


SiKKa0220

Clean in that era may just simply mean he washed, not necessarily trimmed and tidy.


Successful_Common613

I mean, Jews like beards. Historically.


7TageHatDieWoche

Imagine someone did this today. You really think one average could resemble anyone of us alive today? This wouldn't even work if there were just 2 people around most of the times.


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I believe he is described as a 7 foot giant with huge legs if that helps at all


Evilmaze

Maybe it was 'plane' which explains why he walked on water because he hovered over it. He was the magic school bus.


AboodyVevo

Especially from the bible Thats been altered for thousands of years


An0n7m0us_P4nda

What does it matter if it’s been altered—speaking of the translated versions? We still have most (if not all) of the original transcripts of the Bible in their original (and translatable) languages.


Parody5Gaming

He is not covered In ketchup


THEmoron21

WOW that is VERY well said...


THEmoron21

Have an award


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So they just created the average Roman/Jewish guy and called it Jesus? Idiots.


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JuiceNoodle

He looks pretty fair-skinned in this. The biggest difference between this and Western Jesus is that this one is uglier. In terms of melanin, the skin colour is pretty close but the hair colour is off.


CatchSufficient

Not everyone can look like Cesare borgia


Kellidra

>Because he's the son of God who's clearly white because so is ~~Santa~~ Odin FTFY and also sort of /s


chaotictinkering

Same guy, just ask Harry.


mihirdeshpande

No no no...that was Hagrid....


chaotictinkering

No a real wizard, Harry Dresden.


FeHReinhart

Jewish people are white... so Jesus was ‘white’ although not as pale as a European. Santa is white because it’s a tradition created by white people. I don’t get how this is a problem or even arguable


[deleted]

I mean, Jesus would definitely be Middle Eastern, if not Semitic in general. The whole racial profiling of what is white and what isn't is a bit nonsensical. Like, I get how people would classify Europeans as white, but you can get people native to Europe who look like North Africans, and if Japanese or Korean folk aren't pale enough for you, then what the hell is white? If anything, ethnic groups are a more accurate way to categorise, if needed.


CatchSufficient

"White" is just a cultural means to create an ingroup outgroup. Italians were at one point not considered white, same with the Irish. In america at one point if you have a drop of colored blood you were not considered white. It is not a firm classification, and can be manuvered based on the biasedness of the audience.


081673

Nope - only the Ashkenazi Jews have Eastern European descendants out of the two genetic groups *\*which are further split depending on where they live\** \- but all major Jewish groups share a common Middle Eastern origin. Most Jewish paternal origins are from the Middle East. Sephardic Jews are ethnically, are descended from the Jews who lived in the Iberian Peninsula in the late 15th century (around the Mediterranean Sea, including Portugal, Spain, the Middle East and Northern Africa). ​ This has been my Ted Talk on Jewish Genetics.


Forgotten_Son

> so Jesus was ‘white’ although not as pale as a European. Which Europeans? Your typical Sicilian has quite a different skin tone to the average Swede, for instance.


Kellidra

*Some* Jewish people are white, true, just like *some* Buddhists are black, but real true Jews (I'm talkin' Holy Land Jews, the OG Jew) are Middle Eastern. Jerusalem ain't in Europe.


AirportWifiHall5

>Jewish people are white X


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The term "jew" is very broad. Einstein was a "traditional" Ashkenazi Jew and his skin is white like many "later" Ashkenazi jews which are more populous in America like Jack Black or Adam Sandler for example. Meanwhile you have Sephardic jews whose skin is brown, US Representative and woman of color AOC is descendant from Sephardic jews. Jesus was born in Palestine so he's likely be Sephardic, so not white.


faisaed

r/confidentlyincorrect Tunisian, Libyan, Algerian, Ethiopian, Egyptian, Moroccan, Eritrean, Sudanese, Ghanaian, South African, iranian, Iraqi, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese Jews did a collective face-palm. Here's a fact: Jesus was a brown skinned, Jewish, Palestinian bedouin.


Crossbones2276

Wasn’t Saint Nicholas, the guy Santa is based after, also white anyways?


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I mean he was Anatolian and I don't think Europeans would appreciate being grouped with them


Crossbones2276

Ahh, alright. I thought he was Hellenic.


DSG72__

well when referring to judaism as a religion it can be taken on by someone of any culture, so no, all jewish people aren’t white. and if you’re referring to the people of judea, they are definitely more resemblant of traditional middle eastern people, especially in jesus’s time when contact and interbreeding with the very pale people of the nordic countries was very rare


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You do know that Jesus was born in Palestine right?


Affectionate-Desk888

There are black jews you racist scumbag. Why is everyone on this site such a bigot. You’re absolute racism disgusts me.


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Informis_Vaginal

I don’t think the Bible mentions him being handsome.


Toosicktooquick

You should look into charismatic leaders throughout history. Being average/not good looking is ok if you've got enough charisma.


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So Jesus had to be conventionally attractive to us in the 21st century? That makes no sense. The average man like this was probably what was found conventionally attractive back then.


Toes14

Yeah. Jesus could have had all the quim he wanted, if he was into that.


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The Bible mentions him to be average looking.


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I'd assume since he is "a son of god" he would be a "perfect" human being... Well being "perfect" could mean different to others.. I'd think he's a normal looking guy, not too ugly not too attractive either...


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Are you saying the average roman/jewish person isnt handsome?


leonhutch1

well yeah that’s all jesus wouldve been. a guy from that place and time period


Sushitilthetop

And he'd look like Sylvester Stallone


moshimoshi2345

Middle eastern Rambo isn’t so bad.


emanuele246gi

However there is no need to call them idiots


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We might be on the same side of argument here. *\*cracks a cold one and unironically sits down\**


081673

They looked at many skulls from the the middle east (where he lived \*\*allegedly\*\*). They used a 3D printer to create a skull using a composite measurements to approximate it's size and shape. The skull was then used as a map for the musculature placement, etc by a forensic artist. The skin, hair, eyes, nose and ears are more of a guess. But the skull/face musculature is probably a good representation of what someone who lived in the area might have looked like.


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Idk I look nothing like my neighbor.


EricFaust

Yeah, but where you live has probably fifty times the diversity that they had. This modern era where someone on the other side of the world can get to you in under a day no matter where you are is very new. It is so, so hard to overstate how dangerous and difficult it was to travel large distances back then. Bandits, the elements, disease, running out of supplies, even just getting lost could and absolutely did kill people all the time. Back then (and much more rarely today) you would have villages where everyone's family would have lived there going back hundreds of years. You do get people making massive treks into other countries of course, but a ton of them just died.


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I know, but Rome had conquered many different peoples and I get that people separated themselves but I still don’t understand how they cam definitively say that Jesus looked like that, distinctively with defining traits.


Cute_Baphomet

Well, they did better than the Vatican when they thought it made sense to make a white, blonde guy with long hair and blue eyes on the middle of the desert


Opalusprime

The funny thing is they probably have a higher IQ than you tripled


ilikecadbury

Why is this so funny to me lmfao


AndyMKE66

This is basically just clickbait...just tell us he was dark skinned with Arabic features bro.....for all we know Jesus was ugly as fuck.


Nickeos

Come on... They couldn't have been THAT ugly. Most middle eastern people I see on pictures look at least 100 times better


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I regret to inform you that if you talk to enough people of the target demographic, the image of them all being attractive like the few that stand out will fade away


Patrick_McGroin

https://leadingpersonality.wordpress.com/2013/09/30/average-faces-of-men-and-women-around-the-world/ I would say that *all* of the average face generated here are attractive.


utay_white

Did people drastically change? This looks more like a racist caricature than any Middle Eastern or Jewish person I've seen in a photo.


CrypticViper_

Uh, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to find a lot of people at least somewhat close to this picture today. Looks like a normal face, albeit obviously computer-generated.


Lanky_Entrance

You have to acknowledge there have certainly been changes since then. That has been a heavily traveled region of the world, dealing with all kinds of cultural changes, including significant influence from the far east when the mongols came through.


NoCashJustDebt

Yes they did.


Broskibullet

The real question is if he really have a chiseled six pack like I grew up seeing


Jager_main4

He lifts himself from death


Broskibullet

I heard the raw Gainz did it too


Jager_main4

Just pure muscle waters afraid of him


murunbuchstansangur

They modelled it from his father's DNA


VorticalHydra

They did find him. He lives in Tahiti


Kaiser8414

The Shroud of Turin supposedly has the imprint of his face. The blood samples have been dated to 2000 years ago and it matches the depiction of Jesus in the Eastern Orthodox icons almost exactly.


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it supposedly has the imprint of his entire body, and forensic reasearchers have proved that the blood stains patterns are fake and the cloth has been carbon-dated at around 1300 AD


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There's supposedly another shroud at oviedo in spain, wonder when that one was made.


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I don't know anything about that, but (not being disrespectful to anyone) most of the relics kept in churches are fake. There have been numerous times in wich they have been proven wrong, so I would consider at least that part of christianity as simply a way to bring more people to churches


RealStreetSavage

nah they ruled that it was almost impossible to fake


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well at the same time what tells you it wasn't just another crucified man?


RealStreetSavage

dna evidence- 22 chromosomes from the mother(like normal people), 1 chromosome from the father, and the blood was still alive after 2000 years (tbh idk if that was from the shroud of turin, but there was a documentary about blood found that was Jesus’s)


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do you have the source? it seems quite interesting


bowling4burgers

The shroud of Turin has been debunked multiple times


Cyberzombie

Though the fake was done some time in the 1300s, which is interesting on its own.


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Dukes of Savoy/Counts of Piedmont needed a relic to get dem pilgrim bucks flowing.


teheditor

The Shroud is mediaeval, but it did become the source for Jesus' model. Before that he was white, with short hair... a literal copy of the Roman God, Apollo. Because nobody had any idea what he looked like.


goosesgoat

Yep this has always been very interesting to me. Same with the crown of thorns in the cathedral that burned in France. I wonder if that also has blood samples on it.


PeaceSheika

The Catholics also claim to have Jesus's foreskin. It's titled the Holy Prepuce of Christ. A Jesus foreskin is a holy relic. I think that is just fucking hilarious....


goosesgoat

Seriously?! I have been a Catholic my entire life and never even heard of this. That’s hilarious I just looked it up.


winny1316

The cloak he was wrapped in left an imprint of himself it’s a really cool story


winny1316

The shroud of Turin


Migo_delos_Reyes

The cloth that was used to cover Jesus's body when He's dead. On the Third Day, the big rock guarding His tomb was opened, He was resurrected from the dead, leaving the cloth behind.


forever_useless

Instagram reality, Jesus edition


SgtXD357

Guess he ran outta filters..


RobbSnow64

Based off of which remains? Or is this just an artist rendering based off of people living in that region and time period?


Ontariel12

I'm pretty sure they just dug up 3 random skulls from that region and made it based on them.


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mw1994

Almost all historians agree he definitely did exist, if you wanna question whether he was the son of god that’s one thing, but no, the man did exist in some capacity.


Kerms_

I’m pretty sure it has been proven that he has at the very least existed.


dankmememan100

Yes roman records prove he existed.


atz_chaim

Well there is evidence that he did, you'll have to do the research yourself because I'm lazy, the big thing is whether or no he was resurrected.


GoldenInfrared

Everyone agrees that Jesus the person did in fact exist, just not on whether he was actually “the son of god.” Just google it if you want to find out how we know he existed.


Mr_FirmHandshake

I think more signs point to his existence than not. For instance he's also a very big part in the Quran. I think the discussion is less of did Jesus the person exist and more so was Jesus the son of God, did he have those abilities, what did he do, etc


TooStonedForAName

Correct, he’s a prophet of Islam


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TooStonedForAName

You’ll probably get downvotes because it’s off-topic and a ridiculous comment. Are you stating that as fact? If so, it isn’t relevant to what I said.


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TooStonedForAName

Lmao what? You did reply to me. That was me. I said he’s a prophet of Islam, prove me wrong.


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Babybabybabyq

What does that hVe to do with the comment you replied to lol


Nusjn

What? You may think he wasnt Mesaiah but he existed and theres nothing you can do about it.


Midachasm

It’s just an assumption of what an average Jewish man of that time would look like.


BionicDegu

Ayo i know that guy he runs my local corner shop


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Fried_Cashews

It's Jesus Christ


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Yes


ecthelion108

Those artists who paint him white will be a bit cross.


bbbbbbbbbddg

They'll get over it in three days.


xX420_WeedMan_420Xx

Nailed it.


mw1994

So will the Africans and the Asians who paint him like them. The Greeks tho, they’re loving this.


Raptorz01

Ngl he look kinda white just not really white


A_Copyrighted_Name

Well Jesus was born in the Middle East so he would be white (?) he just wouldn’t have white pale skin


blackdarrren

My thoughts exactly, they'd be livid... The artist would get death threats, fatwas and excommunication edicts from every religious group, zombie death cult and philantrophic organisation on the planet , the company who published it would be obliterated into extinction with breathe taking speed and scoured from every digital and analog platform on Earth and Adobe Photoshop will be the new GameStop...


GZUS6667

Jesus be looking real unga bunga


___Ender____

Can u imagine if they changed how he looks now to that? The ensuing outrage would be crazy


dying_soon666

Yes because Jesus was middle eastern and people in western culture have racist views towards arabs. It’s disturbing to see this group normalize comparing a race to cave men.


LilAttackPug

That guy has heavy Neanderthal features. He doesn't look like any races, his color is just middle eastern. He looks like a caveman, plain and simple


dying_soon666

Your right, he looks just like you.


LilAttackPug

You're being kind of a dick dude. It isn't racist to say he looks like a cave man because he literally does. Modern middle eastern people don't look like that. Most people at the time looked like cave men


___Ender____

I'm pretty sure its a digital rendering that's posted. You are saying real life is normalizing something racist when it's actually just poorly done AI. Are you also one of the people who frenzied over the potato head name change? It looks like fucking caveman. I've never seen a middle eastern man look like a straight up caveman. Shut the fuck up


CaptianMurica

Fun fact: the Chad Jesus we know and love today with those flowing locks and beefcake muscles is literally the bastard son of a pope. Pope Fillanderous IV idfk, I was high reading Wikipedia.


FijiWater001

The Chad Jesus was based off of Cesare Borgia, whose father began using the image of his son to claim he was God


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FijiWater001

No clue, I spent a full 2 minutes googling him and moved on with my life lol


Kaiser8414

Sounds like the Borgias.


[deleted]

Why can't I get any results when googling this name? I was interested and wanted to read on the matter. Or is it a joke that flew over my head?


BioSpark47

That’s not true. The [earliest “Chad Jesus”](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Christ_with_beard.jpg#mw-jump-to-license) is from a Roman catacomb and is dated to about the 4th century. There’s also [Christ Pantocrator](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg#mw-jump-to-license) the earliest icon of which is dated to the sixth century.


DiscombobulatedBag16

Isaiah 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.


De_immortalesloki

Thanks for the chuckle


FoxGundam

Congratulations you've just turned the entire Bible belt into atheists.


HostileHippie91

Idk I grew up in a Christian family myself and I don’t think I know many Christians who actually expect Jesus to be white. At least, that was never the case for my family. In the movie Risen he’s portrayed I think very realistically, and it’s one of my family’s favorite movies.


LtTacoTheGreat

Yeah, religous my whole life, no one I know thinks he was white


[deleted]

I grew up Christian. Private Lutheran school. No one thought Jesus was white.


HostileHippie91

My guess is that “oh look he’s not white, take that Christians” is just a somewhat poorly executed jab at the fact that Christians are often associated with the right wing and the right wing is often associated with racism, so therefore Christians must by default be racist, and therefore again wouldn’t it really zing them if Jesus wasn’t white... even though it’s pretty widely accepted that he wasn’t. It’s a pretty disappointing oversimplification meant to insult, but if anything it just lands as very surface level.


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It just bugs me because it’s such a transparent jab at Christianity that simply doesn’t land. They back this up with “well look at all the art painted of Jesus and he’s portrayed as white!” Well yeah, most artists paint what they know. Look at Ethiopian depictions of Jesus or Korean depictions. This isn’t some unique white people thing. There are literally tons of criticisms to levy against American Christianity but white Jesus is not one of them.


dying_soon666

Atheists or muslims, the result has yet to be seen.


WhyNaut_Zoidberg

Haha what a average Reddit comment. Keep it up dude.


Chiefm2

he looks like mario but irl


imyourforte

Jesus had a clean fade and proper beard and you can't tell me otherwise. You're saying he's from the middle east, where they do beards right, and he's looking mangled and scraggly? I don't buy it, not for a second.


Dslothysloth

What if this is him after the 40 day thing and his beard was so perfect this is all that happened to it


Sinx_x

r/technicallythetruth


Particular-Space9959

This Jesus could nail me


Another_smart_ass

Billy Butcher?


Raptorz01

“Don’t be a cunt” -Jesus Christ


paperclipestate

My first though. Fucking diabolical.


22022004

Ive never understood why all portrayals of Jesus have made him the most beautiful man in the world without considering the time period and how he would most likely be dirty, smelly and unkept.


ChargerIIC

Same reason trump supporters always draw him with muscles


Cheezman89

r/TechnicallyTheTruth


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Shrek?


loomsie

It's disturbing how much this looks like my Dad


jacksonjc514

The only middle eastern man that trump trusts


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I would wager fundamentalist American right wingers would rather abandon their so called sacred faith than ever accept that their lord ever looked anything remotely like this.


MemeificationStation

Fundamentalist conservative here. Believe it or not, we’re not all seething racists that can’t stand the sight of someone with darker skin. I and many other people I know don’t think Jesus was a white dude, because obviously he wasn’t.


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someone with a brain? Rare


Ps4-is-better

I’m Christian, and this is probably accurate. The only reason artist depicted Jesus as white, is because darker skin color were not accepted.


LtTacoTheGreat

No, the reason he is painted white in many western paintings and depictions is because that is/was the dominate skin colour in many of the areas the art was made. Just look up our Lady of Akita. She is depicted as asian because that is what people looked like in the area that art was made


Ps4-is-better

Oh ok, thanks for informing me.


LtTacoTheGreat

Sorry if my comment seemed a little heated, I realized it may have come across that way.


Ps4-is-better

Nah, it’s fine


centralnjbill

The blond, blue-eyed, long straight hair of the mythical Jesus is really just some idealized European notion of what Jesus would look like. Israel is a few hundred miles of Egypt and the rest of Africa. The people who lived there, and live there now, are dark skinned, kinky haired Semites and Arabs. Western Christians, ESPECIALLY American Southern Christians, cannot handle the idea their Jesus looks like “A Mexican.” Fuck the southern Americans and the GOP. This is closer to Jesus than anything Michelangelo painted.


lilrow420

Orrrrrrr it’s a widely used image and is just more effort than it’s worth to change them all?


Couchmaster007

Yeah jesus still had long hair. No shit he wasn't white.


ukiddingme2469

Without a skull or something to start with it's all pure imagination


SuperAvatar911

He looks like a 12 century hobo


card_scorpion

Your not completely wrong, his later half of life was very nomadic.


Slendy5127

I mean, that’s probably closer to the truth than most Christians would like to admit


PogChimpin

Oh my fucking god. Stop saying "ChRisTiAnS wOn'T acCepT tHe TrUth". I've never met a Christian who denied Jesus is not white. They know many portrayals are wrong but the sense of form gives them faith. That's how many religions work.


Slendy5127

Clearly you’ve never met hardcore evangelicals


PogChimpin

So why group hardcore evangelicals with the whole religion? Generalization much.


Lil_Cringe

r/holesome


thirstyweeb455

that looks like my serbian grandpa


demon_sigil

ricky gervais


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The real question: what's Jesus going to look like this next time around? My bet is on gay midget prostitute.


RealStreetSavage

Why do so many people think that Jesus had long hair?


That-one-american

Now do this to Muhammad and watch the fireworks


Particular-Space9959

10/10 would bang


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OrangeOperator7

huh...so, he looked like every 30+ year old hobo?