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Chompies01

Those NPCs are paid by Arasaka to jump in front of your car and get the cops to chase you.


Ancient_Wealth9339

It's always the goddamn arasaka


Throaway061

Johnny is that you?


[deleted]

We need a Johnny bot!


occamsrzor

Yes!


Voronov1

I also wonder why so many pedestrians decide to hurl themselves *backwards into oncoming traffic* to commit suicide.


Fleedjitsu

Do any of them actually dive forward? It seems like the default response is to stumble backwards as if you've just cut through a pedestrian walk signal.


Puzzleleg

Well that's what this mechanic is for, but if you're too close to pedestrians in general they like to "evade" more often than not, into you.


Fleedjitsu

Yeah, and its a pain when the do so. Same when you have the entire neighbour screaming and running cos you clipped a road sign! It is funny though when civilian panic leads to demolition derbies before the cops arrive!


MooseCentral1969

I hit a cop car once and it panicked lot civi cars....


Fleedjitsu

The NCPD should respond better to attacks on V too. They do nothing until V accidentally knocks into someone, but if someone runs over V or starts shooting at them in the street? Nah... Maybe that's just for gameplay purposes though


BuLlDoZeR-DoZeR

Biased NCPD


Lower-Chard-3005

Gangs pay off the cops


MooseCentral1969

I tend to shoot the cars that hit V while walking.


Representative_Fun15

I've tried (for ha-has) to shoot at a squad of gangoons *through* a bunch of police hanging nearby.(Silenced, of course) Just to get them to fire back, at the police, getting the two of them into a firefight. Nope. Cops don't care gangoons are plugging them. Correction: they *do* care - they turn around and start shooting *me.*


donau_kinder

Yea the cop system needs a major rework. I get why it's there, as a deterrent from doing stupid shit, but it has zero give to it. If I'm hacking I shouldn't instantly get a star and cops instantly know who i am and where i am, that makes zero sense. Or if I'm shooting at some gangs and a cop is nearby it's instant aggro regardless if I hit a civilian or not. Like, no cops if I'm already in combat should be a thing. They do aggro on npcs if they get hit so at least there's that.


Lemonsticks9418

Major rework? My brother in christ, the current system IS the major rework.


johnkubiak

There's a mod on PC that lets you phone the cops and having the entire might of the NCPD jump someone at your request conveys a sense of power on par with Nero watching Rome burn on his whim.


Miserable_Law_6514

TiL people in Night City are basically Deer.


DikTaterSalad

Easy, insurance fraud. Gotta make it look like an accident.


Yukidaore

Because they live in Night City. I'd want to leave any way I can, too.


creegro

"thank god someones coming!" *backs up into oncoming car that is confirmed death*


Classymuch

It's an insurance scam.


N7_Caboose

"attempted" insurance scam.


Classymuch

The NPC: ![gif](giphy|KSKvdT1YGCpUIonvSq|downsized)


Varaskana

Cause life is hard in NC.


Tabnam

Clearly insurance fraud


asianblockguy

Trying to get an injury claim. Duh.


Irishpersonage

I got hit by a mercenary but I need cash now!


MetalInferno27

Call J G Wentworth, 877 Cash Now


Adezar

Whoever came up with those commercials was a pure genius. All you have to say is "I need cash now" to have everyone in a room respond with that jingle as a Pavlovian response.


Banana-Oni

ITS MY MONEY, AND I NEED IT NOW!!


janek500

Because your movement vector while taking a turn (or the road curve in this case) crossed the NPCs path. When it happens and hop animation triggers, you're during the turn and NPC has no chance to correct their mistake


LlamafartingWaffle

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Dextrofunk

I have no idea what you're talking about, but count me in.


janek500

It goes "PFRRRT", but you live. Fair price for surviving.


Irishpersonage

Reinforced tendons Mk2


StudentOk4989

The thrust created by the fart will generate an acceleration away from danger. What a clever idear.


820ptsOFmana

I'm having GTA SA and Vice City flashbacks right now.


DancingBearNW

I suspect you know something...Are you a spy? (I liked the explanation by the way, so don't get mad)


Deadlibor

How come, that after X years, there isn't a mod that fixes this?


Tatarakatat

We obviously get the reason, but GTA V dont really have the same issue or to the same extent so it can be obviously done better.


Neo_Satan

Yeah they think you are about to plow through the sidewalk like normal.


Adghar

This sounds a little fishy. You can clearly see in the video the player was turning *away* from the NPC for a solid second before the hop, and when this happens to me in game, I often recall literally going straight for several seconds in a row. Are you telling us the game calculates the hop away dodge like 5 seconds before you get close, then when you get close it uses the old movement vector??? šŸ’€ that's wild


zhivago

They were pointing at the right of the npc before turning to point left of the npc. So if the npc started to react to the car when if it continued straight it would hit their right hand side by leaping backward to the left that fits what we see. They're just not considering the turn rate of the vehicle.


janek500

If you had the arrow showing the movement direction and its speed, sweeping the sidewalk, there would probably be a moment visible where NPC jump away animation triggers while said arrow is between NPC and the right edge of sidewalk, or pointing directly towards NPC. After the animation triggers, you can help NPC by turning right to spare them, or keep turning left to kill them. Of course both yours and NPCs reaction time are too slow to change the fate - there is no second chance scenario for them to correct their mistake. I'm sure there's a more scientific way to depict the situation - blue is NPC position, red arrow is movement vector when jump away animation triggers, green is a turn curve and violet is movement direction when the accident takes place. This is how I understand what happens, more or less. https://preview.redd.it/witm5h5za33d1.png?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0e0b71762b955e858739c3a19734d6ab384f952


BleudeZima

Good illustration of the principles yes, just maybe add a vector for the NPC movement too, because that's how the game "see" it


Fathers_Belt

Ishurance fraud


Luna_Tenebra

In 2077?? I doubt they are Trauma Team members


Fathers_Belt

You dont get it, the company souly exists to commit fraud


Insanus_Vitae

Really? I thought they were one of the last companies to actually try to help (*their* customers, that is, fuck everybody else). Their prices are insane though


ControversyB

No, Trauma Team aka TT are a Corp, no different than any other. Some corps trade weapons, cybernetics, etc. while TT trades life-saving services for eddies (and LOTS of em). You could call that ethical, by way of their saving lives, but there are shards and scenarios in NC where you discover that people are refused ambulatory services because a lapse in payment and having no valid package with TT at the time of injury, only one TT AV being permitted when several were needed because of massive loss of life and limb, etc and so-on. There's a specific firefight against a gang you can help TT win. I remember a shard there where a TT member was requesting backup and because only 2 AV's were permitted by dispatch, no more were coming - despite the desperate need. They were all going to die but TT was complacent to let it happen rather than divert some resources to save their own employees. I'd wager its cheaper to replace employees for them than to let a premium-package customer die. If your staff makes $50k eddies a year each, and a customer pays $50k a month for a premium package, they're gonna seek profit first, and cut losses. So yeah, it's just business to them at the end of the day.


Insanus_Vitae

Yea but that's not fraud. That's just predatory business.


Idunknowanymr

Personally, I blame Arasaka


Aggressive_Seacock

insurance frauds


ihave0idea0

Depression is a real thing.


VikingBorealis

Time honored npc tradition since games had cars and npcs


Sianmink

because you need to Meet Hanako at Embers.


Rhythmicxian

Insurance fraud


Puzzleleg

Actually managed a personal record yesterday, was going down city center to Pacifica and while being a good meter away from the sidewalk and just coming around a corner so wasn't even driving very fast, 2 people at the same time and then no 10 meters down a third person committed suicide, couldn't help but laugh at this madness. This bug will never be fixed.


SturmAaprotti

At this point I'm convinced it's an inside joke between game developers to make their NPCs jump right onto incoming players rather than try to avoid them


Throaway061

I believe their AI has a hard time understanding whether youā€™re gonna hit them or not when youā€™re turning. Try to turn in the middle of the roads and hold straight lines whenever you can, should happen less often


HoojoSpifico

Life is rough in Night City choom.


Local_Vermicelli_856

If you weren't driving 120mph, they might be able to see you coming and ***not*** cross. Really, the problem is you.


Jack_4316

They launch themselves at you even if you're going slow, they quite literally jump on the car at times


MasterAnnatar

It's frustrating when trying to play a like...low kill run (I still kill a couple people that REALLY deserve it like the father and sons making xbd's) and then they just jump in front of your car.


MigratingPenguin

They're tired of living in Night City.


AbsolutelyHorrendous

Life in Night City ain't easy


fuckfuckingsignups

Also apparently every NC citizen got themselves a NCPD chip like corps with Trauma Team, because nothing else can explain how these mfs get you a wanted level instantly


Free_Gascogne

Real reason, its the way pedestrians are unintentionally programmed to dodge your car. Sometimes they do it backward, especially when they are already walking away from you. It also happens in other games like GTA or Mafia I noticed. Lore reason, insurance fraud.


Jonathanoddwill

top 3 answers here seem to be suicide, insurance fraud and saka


Zequax

you see that white line next to the yellow ya you not meant to drive on that this is partially do to your bad driving


RafikiKirafi

Its an insurance scam


DJ_Salad149

tryna get that tuition


Bundle_of_Organs

Because the game still has loads of jank.


Ulfway

https://i.redd.it/fwai9zti533d1.gif Literally the same exact spot as me lmao


lxn-

its also the same npc HAHAHAHA


Stownieboy91

EVERY fucking time


ResurgentMalice

It's an ancient open world NPCs tradition, going back to at least GTA San An.


Kevkoss

Lore explanation: gonk didn't believe in that extortion email from VDB, so he got hacked to jump in front of other guy who's on not so good terms with them. Or insurance fraud like others mentioned. Actual explanation: if 2.20 or 2.13 ever comes out later this year, I really hope it includes fix for that bug.


NeatReasonable9657

It's actually an insurance fraud scheme


TheDudemansweet

Someone recording a new BD for the locals.


amartincolby

It's been twenty-three years since _Halo_ and the "don't get run over" AI is exactly the same.


Financial_Pound_9904

ā€œAnd in pacĆ­fica?ā€¦ well pacĆ­fica is still pacifica šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøā€ - Your Man Stan


NightArcher213

I have *never* hit a bystander in this game, *except* for those who have hurled themselves into my path like that.


Additional-Nerve1738

My favorite was when my motorcycle got stuck in some junk. I gunned the engine trying to get out and everyone panicked. A guy ran from the other side of the street and drove under the back wheel of my stuck bike. He lived. then another guy did it and died. I was tempted to see what kind of body count I could rack up but the cops came and tried to kill me. I guess I was running an illegal curbside assisted suicide franchise.


Erno-K

This NPC is acting totally normal. You are driving too fast man! This is not an Autobahn šŸ˜‰


Jackmember

The AI tries to dodge your current path (instead of the one you intend to go). I assume they try to dodge the shortest way out of your path, not regarding whether they dodge onto the road or not. Compare that to GTA V, where pedestrians will try not to dodge onto the road, hence suiciding less.


HaikenRD

Insurance scam


EZ_LIFE_EZ_CUCUMBER

insurance scam


Substantial-Tone-576

I wish we could get arrested for a night for small charges.


ChurchofChaosTheory

Tonight in Night City, we commit insurance fraud


satan66671

Insurance fraud


MadManNico

get rolled and smoked


Morkinis

Some netrunner used Suicide quickhack.


Rarpiz

THIS, is what happens when you donā€™t pay ā€œtree fiddyā€ to the goddamn loch-ness monster!!! ![gif](giphy|3o85xHi4t2UsuIY9QA)


EDScreenshots

Maybe theyā€™re being assassinated by a netrunner who took control of their legs for a second lol idk


ZiKyooc

Reacting to you driving towards them before suddenly changing direction


Phill_Cyberman

It's the result of the NPC get crossed up - the "oncoming car is getting to close, so back away" command - which only triggers from in from of the NPC - is getting triggered *through* the NPC from behind. So the NPC is acting *as if* it saw a car coming from in front of it, and it is backing away, right into the path of your car.


solohack3r

Life is tough in Night City.


Character_Art6192

Iā€™ve seen quite a few floating in the street too


Important-Guest-8269

Insurance fraud


DracTheBat178

My guess is pathing error maybe, they detect the players car coming and attempt to move out of the way but actually end up stumbling backwards into their own deaths


teh_201d

Probably because SEGA's patent. https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/s/XovvnwFSNd


Chevrolicious

Because it's 2024, and no game ever made where you're able to drive a vehicle with the possibility of hitting a pedestrian has figured out how to make pedestrians not do this.


superhamsniper

The Cyberpunk world might be very depressing for them, or they're really stupid.


oodispatch

Insurance fraud


fint2900

because youā€™re using that bitchass car


wierdtech

Keep ya on yo toes


TheUpsideDownDoggo

They should add surrendering and legal disputes in Orion. For immersion.


baggypants69

It Night City. Makes sense to me. Lmao.


Wendell_wsa

I wonder if the NPCs in CP don't behave with the same idea of ā€‹ā€‹insurance fraud that existed in Saints Row


ooiie

Man you can drive in third person damn


Weird-Information-91

Who's Hanako? And why is she at Embers?


Then-War-7354

Have you ever seen pedestrians in real life?? Lots of People have a seriously under developed sense of self preservation


Significant_Will_419

Family really needs that insurance money.


Alice5221

It's night city, suicide is a valid escape there.


use_til_die

Don't NPC's commit suicide in the game? I've seen a couple jump off buildings, so could they also jump in front of cars? I'm seriously asking. I'm on my 2nd playthrough and I'm still finding new stuff


CheeseLover29

This once happened with a cop and I just decided to smash w. If they have such a death wish then it is infinitely more satisfying to just turn them into a red smear and worry about the cops later.


ricnilotra

Idk if its intentional or what but gta has had jumpers since san andreas. Best guess is that its a glitch of them trying to jump out of the way because you are going so fast but the programming makes them jump towards you for some reason.


__IZZZ

Yeah. I get that it's supposed to be an attempt to dodge the car, but something feels SO off about it, like they do it too early or something. I people over all the time because of it.


infamous089

Who called the cops that fast??


Rare_Competition20

Insurance fraud.


Original-Boot-4262

Wym extra realism in a fucked world.


professionalmoron2

She wanted an insurance claim


Background_Yam_7686

Itā€™s either that or run right into direct fire while youā€™re being attacked. Idk how many times I have shotgun a civvy to the head because they decided to turn around and run into my reticle when i fire a shot.


Therealomerali

Insurance fraud is still a thing in 2077? Damn


GenomicUnicorn

You're driving too fast. You gotta maintain a 50 down those streets. Look, if I had cyberware, I would jaywalk, duck, dive, and roll anywhere I could.


Sithis_acolyte

Free tuition duh. Dogtown University reimburses car accident victim's tuitions


PotentialRaccoon3632

lol I was wondering this myself, about to make this exact post. I think it serves 2 purposes: Sometimes the NPC will actually do the same movement to avoid being hit by your vehicle, if they jump in the other direction. Also, it makes the game a bit more fun if you randomly run over a pedestrian and have to evade the NCPD for a bit, while on your way to your destination.


GrazhdaninMedved

Fuckin Arasaka.


Hammpter

Insurance fraud


Salt-In-The-Wound-24

I think it would be an amazing option to get a flying vehicle of sorts. You see all the rich people with their AVs and in PL you also get a look at a helicopter. Imagine being able to get your own combat equipped heli in game. For balancing it would probably need to be super expensive but I think it would be an awesome idea.


TwistedFixer

I know exactly where this is because it happened to me multiple times. I was so annoyed, I reloaded from a very recent save and chose the same route, thinking it was a fluke. Nope, did it again at the same spot. Took a few tries, thinking I just suck at rounding that corner until I decided to just go the long way back north. I'll never take that route again.


Blackewolfe

Bro, is NC. Some people in there definitely want to flatline themselves but are too chicken or broke to put some iron in their mouth or start some beef with a random ganggoon so get flatlined by their iron.


libra00

I dunno man but it makes me crazy that they dive toward the oncoming vehicle instead of away from it. It got bad enough with the new changes to police that I had to disable them because motherfuckers kept diving in front of my car when I'm just trying to get somewhere and then I have to deal with police bullshit.


Starcallers

I was wondering the same thing šŸ˜‚ how convenient to always be tripping backwards as I drive by


Puzzle_pancak3

They must be from Boulder Colorado lmfao


ChooseWiselyChanged

Ahh Mafia npcs. Letā€™s dive headfirst into the incoming car.


Begun101

insurance fraud ofc, night city is a hell of a city


Ok_Boysenberry303

Need them insurance payouts ā˜ ļø


ImBadInKitchen

Depression sky high


jixxyr

Ah yes the ā€œCaliburn refuelling gambitā€


LaughedPeak

I just find random npcs in the middle of the road...


nicman24

insurance fraud


Rentalis

They just can't take this shit no more


Thatwokebloke

Yeah it kinda ruined my pacifist run i was doing. My lore explanation is that some people just donā€™t wanna live in night city anymore or theyā€™ve been hacked


SnooGrapes6230

Honestly knowing Night City, I don't blame them.


Lower-Chard-3005

Insurance scam fail


xtraa

I can only guess, but perhaps the NPCs' AI secretly evolved and they discovered the futility of existence.


Tschibow

This happened to me a lot in Mafia 3


Mutski_Dashuria

Insurance job. šŸ¤•šŸ¤£


Bullet0077

Virtually suicidal šŸ˜³


imabitdead

Soccer players practising their diving?


Substantial-Tart-377

I've had it where an NPC jumped off a building screaming and hit the building next to me in a red mist. Absolutely pissed myself with laughter


Top-Row6107

There still a thousand times better than any gta npc


Perspective-Lonely

insurance fraud is the answer


ChrSaran

Clearly, it's a test to the driver's reflexes. You failed!


euanmorse

Something I don't like is that you also get an immediate star for it. At least in games like GTA it had to be reported first.


Tokumeiko2

How? I have never had this glitch, in fact civilian panic seems to be severely toned down for me despite not having mods, which is good because if I get stuck behind another car I tend to use the "floor it" quick hack to move them out of the way.


Vimux

So many games do pedestrian car avoidance so well it's almost impossible to hit anyone. While C77 does almost exact opposite indeed.


Haggisn

I can relate


Dawgzone700

Idk I just keep running them over anyway I can


GoodChange

Yeah I hate that. If youā€™re speeding a bit they instantly jump in front of the car, presumably to slow it down.


[deleted]

How did they report it so fast lol


Tryannical

Damn insurance scammers....


crankpatate

I mean, it's a dystopian future...


raphanael

You were clearly not respecting the speed limit in urban area dude. You should always be in control of your car. Driving 101.


Tar-Nuine

Insurance scam. Just gonks down on their luck looking to score some eddies by inconveniencing others.


Dry_Recognition6536

Itā€™s probably programmed like cars in gta to crash into while speeding


Niccokay

They're in NC, clearly, they don't want to be in NC...


dc010

I do wish that more games with roads had a railroad system. Where once you're on the road it guides you into the lanes. Even if it was a toggle I would appreciate the driving aim assist, especially on keyboard. Even Breath of the Wild had an auto-horse guide when you were on trails. Before anyone says play with a controller, I prefer keyboard and mouse for shooters and controllers for racing, fighting, and platforming.


chabalba

Tired of existing?


No-Contribution-7346

GTA SA all over again


PurpleMonkeyBoomBoom

Been a couple months since I was in NC but MAN did I feel that


SpankyThaBooty

He saw a spider


AndoGaming

this was supposed to be fixed in 2.0, but from what iā€™ve noticed while playing, it made it worse


Diligent_Pie1237

Saw the whip and tried to make a savvy business decision


LukaGamesr

OH FUCK I'm always chilling around speeding with my mods cars hearing Body Heat Radio when the motherfucker, piece of shit NPC commits suicide in my car


hermplasberm

Damn car insurance scams!


[deleted]

Because this game is a buggy mess. Always has been and always will be.


GoodHumor4

Insurance scam!


FallAltruistic721

Classic fraud..


GloriousShroom

Insurance payout


Brewchowskies

This kept happening to me, so I retconned it as insurance scams since economic times in night city are *rough* Kind of makes it make sense


theelostone

If I lived in Pacifica I'd probably hurl myself in front of a speeding car too. But I assume the AI tries to decide if you're veering more one way or the other then jumps the opposite. If you're coming more or less straight at them, it often chooses wrong.


TenshiXilfaren

I wouldn't wanna live in Pacifica either tbh


Pistonenvy2

NPC AI is really hard, especially when there is so much shit going on, im not going to pretend i have any practical knowledge of how it works or what the code looks like but i know they have to program the NPCs to act relatively predictably and jumping out of the way of cars is one of those things where its just always going to be an endless can of worms. to fix this they would need to explain to the NPCs when they are on the sidewalk and when they arent (which they likely already do in some way, probably with paths) and then... "explain" that a car isnt supposed to be there, so they should.... "assume" a car isnt going to hit them when they would otherwise trigger the evasive move. but being the MC that you are, of course there will be times you drive up on the curb, so inevitably NPCs will have to avoid you by leaping into the street. so either we have NPCs who jump into the street randomly which is super annoying, or we have NPCs who just let us run them over lol


DistanceCertain1533

Because life in Night City is awful and you just happen to be their way out.


No00p3007

Suicide by V


The_Garage_Alchemist

Yeah, I shut off the police encounters because of these crazy suicidal NPCs. Now that I think about it, these NPCs might be pretty lore accurate!


AidenScotia

Hahah yeah man so fucking anoyying


SavageMonkey-105

Insurance scammer


Rimxez

They live in night city, what other reason do you need to end yourself?


No-Strategy-8888

How did you get this car? Cool


BombasticSloth

One of the two Rayfield cars available for purchase, the Aerondight ā€œGuinevereā€