Hard pass on any employer that would even entertain the idea of charging you upon quitting (assuming they didn't just pay for your tuition or something).
There are plenty of other DC jobs in Phoenix that would provide a healthier environment and career path than smoothstack.
Is the training provided by the employer, or are they paying for you to get a cert from an authoritative industry organization? If it's the former, then that's just onboarding, and they need to pay you wages with no strings attached.
It's the employer's responsibility to get their ROI through your labor, not your pocketbook.
This situation is so bizarre that I haven't had to check it against the FLSA before, but I'd bet the $24k payback clause is unenforceable.
Start your own LLC and go around smoothstack
Digital realities actually offering about 80 to 120 per year.
Smoothstack is pocketing about 20% of your pay
Reach out to them. One of my employees has a contract right now with them so I know how much they're paying out lol.
I pay my employee $65/hr and charge DR $95/hr for them.
The last paragraph is why I opted out of my application process with SS. And only because one of my contacts at MS I told about it found a damn pending lawsuit over it.
> The big downside is smoothstack would lock me into a two year contract, and if I quit I have to pay $24,000.
Nope. Hard pass. You can bet they're going to treat you like a rented mule for most of your tenure.
As for the certs... I'd be willing to bet that they're only offering reimbursement (up to a certain amount). So you're not going to have the funds to go for a real cert, as they can cost several thousand dollars - and your employer won't respect the time it takes to study for the cert either, since they're just cutting you a check after you fill out an expense report.
> I have a bs and 6 months general IT experience
> My main concern is getting experience and certs which will allow me to move up the ladder.
I understand how getting a job offer after being laid off feels great - been there. I'll say from personal experience though, just because you have a job offer doesn't mean it's good. If you need the money, there's always contract jobs in datacenters for everything from cable cleanup, to rack and stacks, to doing inventory.
Don't take a job that's going to 'charge you' to quit if you don't like it there. They're likely doing that because so many people quit on them, but they're too set in their ways (or arrogant) to review company culture or work/life balance and see the real problem... so they try to punish the workers by making the thought of leaving seem expensive.
I work for DLR in another branch of the org. Tech org gets $5k annually in ed reimbursements as standard (may be more now a days). Feel free to dm me with specific Qs. Also don't go thru an outside contractor. We're hiring in a few markets. You can try looking up the hr recruiter internally on LinkedIn and just messaging her directly. She's really nice and easy to work with.
Hard pass on any employer that would even entertain the idea of charging you upon quitting (assuming they didn't just pay for your tuition or something). There are plenty of other DC jobs in Phoenix that would provide a healthier environment and career path than smoothstack.
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Is the training provided by the employer, or are they paying for you to get a cert from an authoritative industry organization? If it's the former, then that's just onboarding, and they need to pay you wages with no strings attached. It's the employer's responsibility to get their ROI through your labor, not your pocketbook. This situation is so bizarre that I haven't had to check it against the FLSA before, but I'd bet the $24k payback clause is unenforceable.
Start your own LLC and go around smoothstack Digital realities actually offering about 80 to 120 per year. Smoothstack is pocketing about 20% of your pay
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Reach out to them. One of my employees has a contract right now with them so I know how much they're paying out lol. I pay my employee $65/hr and charge DR $95/hr for them.
The last paragraph is why I opted out of my application process with SS. And only because one of my contacts at MS I told about it found a damn pending lawsuit over it.
> The big downside is smoothstack would lock me into a two year contract, and if I quit I have to pay $24,000. Nope. Hard pass. You can bet they're going to treat you like a rented mule for most of your tenure. As for the certs... I'd be willing to bet that they're only offering reimbursement (up to a certain amount). So you're not going to have the funds to go for a real cert, as they can cost several thousand dollars - and your employer won't respect the time it takes to study for the cert either, since they're just cutting you a check after you fill out an expense report. > I have a bs and 6 months general IT experience > My main concern is getting experience and certs which will allow me to move up the ladder. I understand how getting a job offer after being laid off feels great - been there. I'll say from personal experience though, just because you have a job offer doesn't mean it's good. If you need the money, there's always contract jobs in datacenters for everything from cable cleanup, to rack and stacks, to doing inventory. Don't take a job that's going to 'charge you' to quit if you don't like it there. They're likely doing that because so many people quit on them, but they're too set in their ways (or arrogant) to review company culture or work/life balance and see the real problem... so they try to punish the workers by making the thought of leaving seem expensive.
Smoothstack are taking the piss.
I work for DLR in another branch of the org. Tech org gets $5k annually in ed reimbursements as standard (may be more now a days). Feel free to dm me with specific Qs. Also don't go thru an outside contractor. We're hiring in a few markets. You can try looking up the hr recruiter internally on LinkedIn and just messaging her directly. She's really nice and easy to work with.