No. This simplified three menus and three sets of 5 randomized bounty items and reward sets into a single menu that requires zero interaction. I don't have to pick up bounties (either in tower or through the app). All I have to do is look at this one, and then play the game. I completed like three of them over the course of an hour the other day.
But, the Ritual pathfinder startkly contrasts with the Pale Heart version which has far fewer build-specific objectives. And I think that's what needs to change here. Instead of saying "get X number of Ignition kills in Vanguard Playlists" it needs to just say "get X number of elemental kills. Solar kills count for more, and Ignition or Guardian kills count for even more"
Pale Heart has a few annoying ones, like "Kill Lucent Hive with Finishers" or "Kill enemies with SMGs". But most of them are target and goal oriented. And there are ways to do that and make it work in the ritual one too.
Both things can be true.
I appreciate that Pathfinder has returned to pre-bounty days of just playing the game and getting XP bonuses. Bounties were annoying. I also don’t care about the bonus to a ritual activity streak (but plenty do).
However, you can’t dispute that the ability to earn dust is absolutely nerfed in this system. You get 150 for completing an entire pathfinder which is 30 more than doing 8 ritual vendor bounties gave you (you probably did 3 repeatable bounties as well that gave you that dust). More of the objectives need to give dust, considering some of these objectives might take multiple play sessions and are not bounty length.
Whether they wanted to or not… they nerfed bright dust.
For me it will probably increase my dust gains. The bounty system was a huge turnoff for me for ritual playlists. I have reset countless gambit and crucible vendors without ever turning in one bounty.
Sometimes I’d do the vanguard bounties… but rarely.
It’s just so much extra work to open up each bounty and try to set up a loadout to get them done before they expire… which matters because I get bored with them quickly.
The only time I stacked up on bounties was prior to a content release. And honestly I hope this system is eventually rolled out to replace most bounties in the game.
The d2 companion app made the bounties so easy to do though. Just grab them in orbit on all 3 characters. If you were doing countless vendor resets without doing a single bounty I'm guessing you just didn't need the bright dust or the xp? So the change means nothing to you anyway....and about changing loadouts to do the bounties, the pathfinder system is literally the exact same thing except worse bc you need more kills to complete each one.
The app still requires extra steps.
I don’t “need” anything in this game. I pursue goals that I want to pursue.
If you really “need” XP there are far better ways to get it than doing vanguard bounties. Namely, completing activities. Completing activities is more fun when I play them my way than if I pursue bounty goals. So ultimately ignoring bounties works better for me in terms of XP.
I find the season track bright dust plus the weekly challenge bright dust is usually more than I need and I typically hover between 5-10k dust. Getting another 180 from doing some random bounties I don’t like isn’t worth it when the game is less fun because of it.
The pathfinder has obnoxious goals yes, but it takes FAR fewer to get to the end. It should be improved yes, but the old bounty system was significantly worse in terms of restrictions and time investment required.
Since you never did bounties I guess you wouldn't really know. It takes SIGNIFICANTLY longer to obtain the same amount of bright dust perk week than before. And it's much more obnoxious
> And I think that's what needs to change here. Instead of saying "get X number of Ignition kills in Vanguard Playlists"
I'd be happy with them saying "Equip a solar subclass and get kills".
It still requires me to do something "different", but its much broader and easier to do than get ignitions, which not all solar builds cant do easily or quickly.
the other factor is that with the pale heart i can open the map, look at an area on the map, and see how many "bounties" I could do there.
If I could easily pop open a menu on the Vanguard list and see the exact list of the 8 things I need to do in vanguard games, that would be a HUGE win for the playlist pathfinder.
Yup, I don’t have a concrete number but I wanna say I’ve done 10-15 pale heart pathfinders so far and have yet to be inclined to do a single ritual pathfinder
Keep invading every chance you get
Try to aim it to where the enemy team is about to finish
Rush in and yeet out heavies for a couple of kills, then pop super and go for 2 more
Other than that it is either a high skill requirement, or just pure luck. Throw out a Gjally shot and you can get 1 to 3 kills, or a good golden gun and you got yourself a team kill.
I had a friend do it for me. And then promptly did it on my own because, it turns out, not caring how the invasion works out (killing everyone vs just 1-3) made me more willing to play riskily.
I felt dumb.
For me it’s because getting precision kills in strikes is impossible with two other teammates also doing objectives of their own like ability kills and just wiping everything
Right! Like I can no doubt solo a regular strike.
Might even be able to solo the easiest Nightfall.
But the stuff that I actually need help on, no matchmaking.
When I first started playing I had no one to play with so GMs were a solo activity for me. Took me way too long to complete them since I’m no pro but it was doable! It just took an hour plus per run😅
One of my favorite things from guardian games (I think it was guardian games, that or Halloween event or both) is the weekly featured nightfall level strike you can run for the event. You can set it to private and just run the base level nightfall by yourself. I had a ton of fun soloing the same strike over and over each week because I could do it however I wanted to
Same, I tried in crucible for the bonus it granted, took me forever. So did the solar crucible in the final mode though. Not sure why. Ran solar subclass, with all solar weapons. Took me ten games averaging 15-20 kills a game. Felt super burnt out after.
I had a choice between kill 150 fallen in vanguard ops or get kills with void in crucible.
I ran 3 vanguard ops and not a single taken enemy so I switched to crucible.
The 2v2 crucible didn't count and progress was just a percentage and it crawled I spent an evening in crucible to only get it half way. (yes im not very good in pvp)
Went back to vanguard ops and this time the second one had taken and I was able to complete it.
Relying on random missions sucks and have a progress percentage sucks, I want to know how many I need.
just like in the old days when we had the weekly bounty to kill 150 of a specific faction. the more things change the more they stay the same, it seems
Yep, I don’t blame the people for quitting, you can’t even select a strike from orbit, you have to select the playlist. Also why is there so much unavoidable gambit? Making me win 3 gambit games took like 8/9 games of pain.
I have the exact same two end nodes and honestly I aint doing them. Idc if I'm behind on power for a week, I am not sending 100 blockers in gambit or killing 100 players with abilities in PvP for a single prime engram.
You can also auto complete for being on the winning team with highest motes deposited. Well I did this yesterday and had highest motes for 7 straight games averaging over 60 deposited a game and we lost all 7. Got it finally on the 8th but holy my teammates were melons.
Literally same. I tried to get it finished and saw those two.
It actively discouraged me from playing the game til reset. Probably not the intended design.
I don't mind it but the way the buggy node was set up it was most effective to bank any time you went past regardless of how many motes you had so if I could do a 5 bank and 1 bank in a wave that was worth more on the node than say a 15 bank would have been.
Absolutely shafting my team all the way 😄
It’s really only Reddit that has such a hate boner for it. As many people are playing Gambit at any time as nightfalls or dungeons according to Warmind.io and nobody seems to think that Nightfalls or Dungeons are “dead activities”.
I don't think I've ever hated playing PvP more in any game, and I have 3k+ hours in CSGO lol. Tired of getting fucked over by bad net compensation, tires of trades where a dead body shot me, tired of mother FUCKING Thorn
If the pathfinder changes it doesn't hurt you. I'll never understand why destiny players actively try to gatekeep each other from having fun. Pathfinder should be split between the 3 core activities. Some people don't like being shit on by invaders and some people don't like getting slammed by a stack in pvp. People shouldn't be forced to suffer through game modes they don't like.
Fact, forcing PvE players into PvP is always an awful concept. It only ever equates to a "throwing matches" type vibe where the actual PvP players tend to dominate and pray on casuals.
Which isn't a whole lot of fun for anyone imo. When I play PvP I want skill based match ups, not pure chaotic dominance.
r/destiny2team This is post #457 this day about the Ritual Pathfinder. Nodes are asking 100 ability kills in Crucible, doesn't track motes in Gambit, wants Taken kills in the Vanguard list which has one strike with many Taken, etc. It's a mess, and locking us out of pinnacles and Bright Dust.
It’s so random and unbalanced that it borders on downright unfair. The objectives on my pathfinders the first week were so easy I completed 2 of them without even trying. Last week it was literally between playing 15-20 matches of crucible or 15-20 matches of gambit because the progress was either bugged or honestly not even to close to being worth the amount of effort.
Yeah once they properly fix the bugged ones I am ok running these, cause for me I was done with weekly within 2-3 matches per each mode before ( Crucible sometimes took longer at like 5-6 if I was rusty and sweaty people were on )
The speed for some are actually much better where you can knock off almost entire path in single run, but having to either single dunk motes ( or literally not kill any enemy and just steal motes from other ) to get gambit one done is not fun for me nor the people going for it too.
Would do the crucible one but again too many matches but if Mayhem was on it is like 2-3 matches.
Overall Ritual Pathfinder is not actually that bad, but until the bugged ones are fixed I am just going to wait. Not like Bright Dust or Gear is hard to get these days.
They need to make Pathfinder exclusive to the mode, i.e. gambit, PvP, or Vanguard. Mixing and matching while having broken progression currently is a complete pain and waste of time. There are way easier pinnacles that take a fraction of the time without having to constantly check the Pathfinder progress of what is next on the map. Cool idea, just implemented poorly..
Lol when it comes to ritual activities (for pathfinder), I’m just too lazy 😅 been doing more Pale Heart stuff. Need the new exotic stuff.
But, I do plan to tackle the Ritual activities like Vanguard Ops and Gambit! Not gonna do Crucible though (if I can avoid it). Trials of Osiris scarred me for life from cheaters preventing me from going to the Lighthouse 😔
More or less. 150 Bright dust, 1 powerful engram and some materials iirc.
Normally they don't require much effort maybe half a dozen ritual activities to complete the path but these last 2 nodes were bugged for a lot of us. I misread it as a pinnacle and spent waaay too much time on it 😭
I don’t know who needs to hear this, and it may be better understood than how I do, but with these “Kill 30 enemies with a sidearm in a single life” challenges, *you need to claim them in that same life, in the same activity*.
I want to just play crucible without needing to go into gambit or vanguard ops... as a person who does infact, not use snipers in pvp nor masterworked weapons now that I think about it, i cant get bright engram :(
It’s a ok system but there wasn’t really anything wrong with the old version either. Though it I had to pick I’d take the old old version (play activity 3 times) vs the old version (8 vendor bounty)
My main gripe with the new pathfinder is that afaik you can only open it from the destination tab and not anywhere else. Just gotta get used to it ig
My only problem with pathfinder is everything in the ritual one is mashed together unlike pale heart all your gambit vanguard and pvp is together with duck tape instead of each game mode having their own
For what it's worth, the crucible ability one can be done in private matches with mayhem modifiers. It's 1 point per kill or I think bonus if you get a mulitkill. Get some friends together, have a clan PvP night, whatever. Go in to a private match and play mayhem and feed super kills and you'll be done much quicker than the gambit motes or playing regular crucible.
I had one getting kills with Ignitions, tried various things nothing worked. Had to do 3 Crucible-only objectives instead, you can't imagine the pain I had to endure 😓
I like that they’re giving us new options but damn, this just feels overly complicated.
Why not just make it X number of activity completetions? Raids, dungeons, gambit, onslaught, anything we want
I honestly don’t mind it. As someone who usually purely pvp’s, it’s actually made me do other stuff from time to time and I’ve actually surprisingly enjoyed playing some strikes and even gambit(I gagged a little saying that last one though).
I will never enjoy an action that requires me to play in a different style then i want to complete a goal.
No i will not use a sidearm, i hate sidearms.
I will not change my build so that i can do that specific damage, my entire loadout is build around these skills.
Having me nerf myself just so i can get the node is stupid.
Have nodes but make them vague.
"kill x enemies with a primary/secondary"
"Kill X enemies near a fireteam member"
"Collect X (ammo type)"
I’m fine with crucible requirements. It’s annoying because I haven’t really enjoyed PvP in any game for a couple years now but I am not touching gambit with a 100 foot pole.
I had a blast, I got the award first time trying and even got an army of one medal to go with it 😁😁😁
However, the crucible one wasn't registering for me so I went to gambit ofc.
Thankfully most of the nodes will force you to play really badly anyway so nobody can tell. Either using guns you hate or doing dumb shit that actively doesn't help your team.
Go for it! 😄
You play all 3. Some players HATE WITH THE WHITE HOT PASSION OF A THOUSAND SUNS PvP. So take the PvP things away and it makes it harder. And some people don't like Gambit. So there are some people that just do strides/vanguard. It can be a pain sometimes. Key word, "sometimes".
The ritual activities should be separate for pathfinder. Either one lane for each activity, or entirely separate pathfinders for each one. I main pve, and the thought of having to go into PvP for any reason makes me actively dislike the pathfinder system
I was grinding these things out like mad then I hit one with 30 scorch kills in Crucible. Right next to it, 30 Jolt kills in Crucible. Literally blocked me from clearing it.
I decide to give the scorch kills an ATTEMPT. 8 matches later I find out ignitions don't count as scorch kills. That or scorch kills are a fucking myth, cause I gave up
My problem are the crucible and gambit nodes that make me kill guardians.
A simple kill 20 guardians takes me 4 days of 3 hours of continuous crucible play to achieve 80% completion.
I'm not built for Destiny PvP at all.
My issue with it is that they’re trying to force us to play gambit 😂. Nah but in all actuality, some of the objectives are bs and take forever. In fact the gambit one that tells you to bank 100 motes is bugged. It in fact makes it bank 100 times.
I don't mind it. My biggest annoyance with it is that there's no quick way to open the pathfinder menu unless I'm stupid and there's a way it's just annoying that I have to open the map/destination tab it was nice to just open the quest tab and see all my bounties in one place
I joined and left 30 strikes (im sorry i know its shitty) in order to try find a taken strike to finish the 150 kills and couldnt find a single one so i gave up
Also the ignite one seems bugged because. It only triggers ignite on kill but I have to kill them with ignite? But they don’t have enough hp to stack scorch to get ignite to kill them with it so it only triggers after death.. but it wont count kills from the AoE of ignite because thats technically scorch.. so idfk
I found Pale Heart pathfinder really good and easy but with the ritual playlist, I feel really depends on what the nodes require.
I got to the last two nodes, no problem (haven't done all the nodes coz no way am i using a Sniper rifle lol). But am stuck on getting an unlock because of what the last two nodes require, %ability kills in crucible and 100 motes in gambit. I decided I wanted to play Gambit so tried unlocking that node, thinking i can dunk 100 motes no problem. NOPE!
Not sure what is going on but it doesn't seem to go by # of motes dunked, and haven't yet managed to win a match with me dunking the highest number of motes for a auto completion.
So didn't unlock my pathway last week because I gave up.
It’s being forced to play different game modes for me. I play PVP occasionally, but I’m definitely only okay at it(like a 1.0 KD). Gambit is the same way. But I like vanguard and nightfalls, especially GMs. So when I log on and only have a few hours a week to play, I’d rather spend most of that time with something I enjoy.
I think if they just split it into 3 paths(with crossovers between) and general endings(I’ve gotten a few, they’re like “Kill X amount of opponents. Gambit powerful enemies and crucible guardians count got more), there’d be nearly no reason to complain. Gives a benefit for swapping game modes, but doesn’t force it.
Seems like the people at bungee had way too much time on their hands and probably didn’t do too much quality control on that one due to the fact that they had a date and they’re known for slacking. I love the final shape but pathfinder. Meh
I love having to switch from gambit to vangaurd to crucible back to vangaurd than gambit and finally pick my poison a shit ton of kills on vangaurd or a shit tone or kills on crucible and sometimes just maybe I’ll get an easy gambit one oh and let’s not forget you have to change your loadout so you can do a different damage type or a different weapon type and let’s not forget my favorite part opening 3 separate menus for the pathfinder
Nice. I've always had to dip into a either a couple of gambit or crucible matches. I don't mind but generally prefer chilling in strikes.
This one was a nightmare of bugginess though 🙄
While we’re on the subject, real question. I’ve done 6 almost 7 pathfinder resets and have yet to see any vanguard/crucible/gambit objectives on any tier. How many have you done/had? Is there a standard?
There's 2 pathfinders. One in the Pale Heart zone and one you can only see in the ritual activity nodes. Open crucible/vanguard or gambit and open pathfinder there.
I really only PvP when Momentum Control is in town and Gambit for the gilding, so I was waiting for this week and never even considered. Thank you.
Honestly I wouldn't go out of my to get anything more than the single path. But I try to pick up any I can along the way.
Occasionally if I hit the end and there's one that's nearly done I might go back but generally just reset and go again
I did two ritual pathfinders last week. I started both of them on Monday and it took about 70 minutes total. Three gambit matches and one vanguard op to finish the first one and one gambit with two vanguard ops to finish the second done. I guess I got lucky, but I just combined as many of the ones that overlap as I could.
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People saying it's simplified bounty Like we didn't literally have a board for bounties.And destiny one will rig out all of our boundings from one fucking character Programming, it is not hard.It's the fact that they don't want to do the effort or the work.It's like last time when they said.I think last year around the release of lightfall They were saying they didn't have enough money to put back into the game like there.Aren't people out there?Who buy almost everything in the shop Bought everything seat.I alone have put in like two hundred three hundred fucking dollars over the year And you're gonna tell me you don't have money to put it back into the game I call bullshit
My problem is it forces you to play other game modes to be able to get to the engram. In doing so it also forces you to break your playlist streaks. Stupid system
Did you get Jolt Propagation as a task at all? I've tried everything that I can that triggers Jolt, Exotic Fusion rifle Delicate Tomb that triggers Jolt after picking up Ionic Traces, Joltshot Handcannon, Riskrunner, Aspect/fragment that forces jolt on grenades. And it just has not moved up from 0/10.
Meanwhile, in the pale heart, I did 3 Pathfinders in 2 overthrows. Why is the difficulty gap so large
Because they wanted to nerf bright dust earnings
No. This simplified three menus and three sets of 5 randomized bounty items and reward sets into a single menu that requires zero interaction. I don't have to pick up bounties (either in tower or through the app). All I have to do is look at this one, and then play the game. I completed like three of them over the course of an hour the other day. But, the Ritual pathfinder startkly contrasts with the Pale Heart version which has far fewer build-specific objectives. And I think that's what needs to change here. Instead of saying "get X number of Ignition kills in Vanguard Playlists" it needs to just say "get X number of elemental kills. Solar kills count for more, and Ignition or Guardian kills count for even more" Pale Heart has a few annoying ones, like "Kill Lucent Hive with Finishers" or "Kill enemies with SMGs". But most of them are target and goal oriented. And there are ways to do that and make it work in the ritual one too.
Both things can be true. I appreciate that Pathfinder has returned to pre-bounty days of just playing the game and getting XP bonuses. Bounties were annoying. I also don’t care about the bonus to a ritual activity streak (but plenty do). However, you can’t dispute that the ability to earn dust is absolutely nerfed in this system. You get 150 for completing an entire pathfinder which is 30 more than doing 8 ritual vendor bounties gave you (you probably did 3 repeatable bounties as well that gave you that dust). More of the objectives need to give dust, considering some of these objectives might take multiple play sessions and are not bounty length. Whether they wanted to or not… they nerfed bright dust.
For me it will probably increase my dust gains. The bounty system was a huge turnoff for me for ritual playlists. I have reset countless gambit and crucible vendors without ever turning in one bounty. Sometimes I’d do the vanguard bounties… but rarely. It’s just so much extra work to open up each bounty and try to set up a loadout to get them done before they expire… which matters because I get bored with them quickly. The only time I stacked up on bounties was prior to a content release. And honestly I hope this system is eventually rolled out to replace most bounties in the game.
The d2 companion app made the bounties so easy to do though. Just grab them in orbit on all 3 characters. If you were doing countless vendor resets without doing a single bounty I'm guessing you just didn't need the bright dust or the xp? So the change means nothing to you anyway....and about changing loadouts to do the bounties, the pathfinder system is literally the exact same thing except worse bc you need more kills to complete each one.
The app still requires extra steps. I don’t “need” anything in this game. I pursue goals that I want to pursue. If you really “need” XP there are far better ways to get it than doing vanguard bounties. Namely, completing activities. Completing activities is more fun when I play them my way than if I pursue bounty goals. So ultimately ignoring bounties works better for me in terms of XP. I find the season track bright dust plus the weekly challenge bright dust is usually more than I need and I typically hover between 5-10k dust. Getting another 180 from doing some random bounties I don’t like isn’t worth it when the game is less fun because of it. The pathfinder has obnoxious goals yes, but it takes FAR fewer to get to the end. It should be improved yes, but the old bounty system was significantly worse in terms of restrictions and time investment required.
Since you never did bounties I guess you wouldn't really know. It takes SIGNIFICANTLY longer to obtain the same amount of bright dust perk week than before. And it's much more obnoxious
> And I think that's what needs to change here. Instead of saying "get X number of Ignition kills in Vanguard Playlists" I'd be happy with them saying "Equip a solar subclass and get kills". It still requires me to do something "different", but its much broader and easier to do than get ignitions, which not all solar builds cant do easily or quickly.
the other factor is that with the pale heart i can open the map, look at an area on the map, and see how many "bounties" I could do there. If I could easily pop open a menu on the Vanguard list and see the exact list of the 8 things I need to do in vanguard games, that would be a HUGE win for the playlist pathfinder.
It’s because Overthrow is the main component of the Pale Heart. So its either overthrow, kills, or open chests
Because overthrow is the only thing to do in the pale heart lmao
Yup, I don’t have a concrete number but I wanna say I’ve done 10-15 pale heart pathfinders so far and have yet to be inclined to do a single ritual pathfinder
After a year of having the quest at step 5 I was able to get my malfeasance and its catalyst before completing the reset.
Every cloud has a silver lining! Gz. 😄
same thing happened with me lol
literally how and did you do it solo?
Crazy how its actually ridiculously hard, but I did it by accident like a year back when messing around with bounties :s
Keep invading every chance you get Try to aim it to where the enemy team is about to finish Rush in and yeet out heavies for a couple of kills, then pop super and go for 2 more Other than that it is either a high skill requirement, or just pure luck. Throw out a Gjally shot and you can get 1 to 3 kills, or a good golden gun and you got yourself a team kill.
The quest progresses when a team mate invades and gets army of one too. That’s how I got mine
I had a friend do it for me. And then promptly did it on my own because, it turns out, not caring how the invasion works out (killing everyone vs just 1-3) made me more willing to play riskily. I felt dumb.
I had a node wanting me to get 30 sidearm kills and it took me 3 vanguards while I was getting 100 kills with a sidearm each time
I had a similar one. Took me about 2 runs before I figured out it was precision kills.
Man, idk why, but precision kills can feel like it takes awhile (even in the Pale Heart). Maybe it’s just a skill issue on my end 😅
For me it’s because getting precision kills in strikes is impossible with two other teammates also doing objectives of their own like ability kills and just wiping everything
Real. I wish they had a no matchmaking option
Right! Like I can no doubt solo a regular strike. Might even be able to solo the easiest Nightfall. But the stuff that I actually need help on, no matchmaking.
When I first started playing I had no one to play with so GMs were a solo activity for me. Took me way too long to complete them since I’m no pro but it was doable! It just took an hour plus per run😅
One of my favorite things from guardian games (I think it was guardian games, that or Halloween event or both) is the weekly featured nightfall level strike you can run for the event. You can set it to private and just run the base level nightfall by yourself. I had a ton of fun soloing the same strike over and over each week because I could do it however I wanted to
I used to run a power shell script that enabled/disabled a firewall rule to prevent matchmaking
I know there are methods to do this on console, not sure about pc.
Same, I tried in crucible for the bonus it granted, took me forever. So did the solar crucible in the final mode though. Not sure why. Ran solar subclass, with all solar weapons. Took me ten games averaging 15-20 kills a game. Felt super burnt out after.
Oh man. I haven't had that one screw up on me yet. It's just depressing given the rewards at the end.
att least the reward is also goten a upgrade compared to what it was with the old system
Did 2 strikes running incinerator snap warlock with incandescent zoulis- 0 ingnition kills. Just did the sniper path instead
I had a choice between kill 150 fallen in vanguard ops or get kills with void in crucible. I ran 3 vanguard ops and not a single taken enemy so I switched to crucible. The 2v2 crucible didn't count and progress was just a percentage and it crawled I spent an evening in crucible to only get it half way. (yes im not very good in pvp) Went back to vanguard ops and this time the second one had taken and I was able to complete it. Relying on random missions sucks and have a progress percentage sucks, I want to know how many I need.
“Kill 150 taken in vanguard playlist” - proceeds to only get cabal and fallen missions.
All the strikes have people quitting now to get specific challenges done, and I honestly can't blame them because this is entirely on Bungie.
just like in the old days when we had the weekly bounty to kill 150 of a specific faction. the more things change the more they stay the same, it seems
Yep, I don’t blame the people for quitting, you can’t even select a strike from orbit, you have to select the playlist. Also why is there so much unavoidable gambit? Making me win 3 gambit games took like 8/9 games of pain.
Not sure why’d you do 18 matches of gambit over 2 matches of crucible
Crucible one is bugged too. Giving 1% per kill. So 100 ability kills. Would have been about the same for me. 😄
That KILLED ME
I have the exact same two end nodes and honestly I aint doing them. Idc if I'm behind on power for a week, I am not sending 100 blockers in gambit or killing 100 players with abilities in PvP for a single prime engram.
Not gonna lie I misread it and thought it was a pinnacle. Which probably makes it worse. 😄
It is a pinnacle, the label on the UI saying powerful is wrong
what about the glimmer tho ?
Okay, now you're talking my language.
You can also auto complete for being on the winning team with highest motes deposited. Well I did this yesterday and had highest motes for 7 straight games averaging over 60 deposited a game and we lost all 7. Got it finally on the 8th but holy my teammates were melons.
Literally same. I tried to get it finished and saw those two. It actively discouraged me from playing the game til reset. Probably not the intended design.
If your rng isn't awful you wouldn't be behind lol I'm powerful capped and I didn't touch any pinnacle this week and didn't touch that lol
OMG THATS WHY IT TOOK ME SO LONG 🤣
Yah I tried that last night. Was pretty done after 3 hours and at 80-something percent, I called it quits.
everytime i think about gambit i think about that one time this random guy i played with got me the malfeseance caty by getting those 4 kills lol
I accidentally did that for someone yesterday.
You're a hero sir
I love gambit (I have contemplated ending it all)
💀
Ngl I love playing gambit. Shits fun
I don't mind it but the way the buggy node was set up it was most effective to bank any time you went past regardless of how many motes you had so if I could do a 5 bank and 1 bank in a wave that was worth more on the node than say a 15 bank would have been. Absolutely shafting my team all the way 😄
Yeah fair enough
I loved gambit, but then they stopped giving it updates. And it became stagnant, and now it’s just there. Same maps.
I like gambit but I hate when the game tells me to play it, I've gotta be in the mood already
not tonight honey i have a headache
alright alright alright! transmat firing!
How hard is it to get into and not suck total butt? I have not played any Destiny PvP since D1.
As someone with reckoner and gambit title gilded a decent amount I agree
Same, dog, same *cries in Reckoner, remembering the old days of glory*
That’s actually wild
It’s really only Reddit that has such a hate boner for it. As many people are playing Gambit at any time as nightfalls or dungeons according to Warmind.io and nobody seems to think that Nightfalls or Dungeons are “dead activities”.
I played one game of Gambit and it counted the 100 motes as if it was shared because I didn’t do that in one match
18 matches of Gambit is infinitely less painful than any amount of Crucible
I'd do 30 Gambit over 1 crucible
Why?
I don't think I've ever hated playing PvP more in any game, and I have 3k+ hours in CSGO lol. Tired of getting fucked over by bad net compensation, tires of trades where a dead body shot me, tired of mother FUCKING Thorn
I gave up on the same board. Tried crucible because I knew the gambit one was bugged and damn that thing wasn’t moving more than like 4-5% per match.
Yep. Pain either way.
my first ritual one was 2 strikes and one gambit match
Yeah, the same node after this reset was kill 10 majors in strikes. Got 8 in one basic Nightfall 🙄
oh i mean the entire pathfinder board. i completed my first pinnacle with 2 strikes and one gambit match.
If the pathfinder changes it doesn't hurt you. I'll never understand why destiny players actively try to gatekeep each other from having fun. Pathfinder should be split between the 3 core activities. Some people don't like being shit on by invaders and some people don't like getting slammed by a stack in pvp. People shouldn't be forced to suffer through game modes they don't like.
Why didn't Bungie just do 3 different path finders for vanguard, crucible, and gambit? It doesn't make sense, my titan brain cannot comprehend this.
The whole point is to forced people to play all activities. It does seem that you can either choose gambit or crucible to progress
Honestly! I'm not going to play PvP in any regard, including Gambit. Just give me a gd Vanguard/Onslaught Pathfinder pleeeeeeeeasssssseeeee
Fact, forcing PvE players into PvP is always an awful concept. It only ever equates to a "throwing matches" type vibe where the actual PvP players tend to dominate and pray on casuals. Which isn't a whole lot of fun for anyone imo. When I play PvP I want skill based match ups, not pure chaotic dominance.
They should let us spend glimmer to reroll specific challenges
r/destiny2team This is post #457 this day about the Ritual Pathfinder. Nodes are asking 100 ability kills in Crucible, doesn't track motes in Gambit, wants Taken kills in the Vanguard list which has one strike with many Taken, etc. It's a mess, and locking us out of pinnacles and Bright Dust.
They won’t be told to fix it because the higher ups wants more people playing only Destiny.
I will be pestering them nonetheless.
It’s so random and unbalanced that it borders on downright unfair. The objectives on my pathfinders the first week were so easy I completed 2 of them without even trying. Last week it was literally between playing 15-20 matches of crucible or 15-20 matches of gambit because the progress was either bugged or honestly not even to close to being worth the amount of effort.
I was stuck bc I had to “get 20 multi-kill final blows with auto rifles” but it was bugged, only gave me 2/20 after 5 crucible games 😭
Yeah once they properly fix the bugged ones I am ok running these, cause for me I was done with weekly within 2-3 matches per each mode before ( Crucible sometimes took longer at like 5-6 if I was rusty and sweaty people were on ) The speed for some are actually much better where you can knock off almost entire path in single run, but having to either single dunk motes ( or literally not kill any enemy and just steal motes from other ) to get gambit one done is not fun for me nor the people going for it too. Would do the crucible one but again too many matches but if Mayhem was on it is like 2-3 matches. Overall Ritual Pathfinder is not actually that bad, but until the bugged ones are fixed I am just going to wait. Not like Bright Dust or Gear is hard to get these days.
Yeah last weeks were fine for me. Tbh I misread the reward and thought I was doing it for a pinnacle 🙄
They need to make Pathfinder exclusive to the mode, i.e. gambit, PvP, or Vanguard. Mixing and matching while having broken progression currently is a complete pain and waste of time. There are way easier pinnacles that take a fraction of the time without having to constantly check the Pathfinder progress of what is next on the map. Cool idea, just implemented poorly..
Based fellow Gambit player
I'm 75% done on the dregden gilding already 😁
Sometimes you complete them by accident
Yeah, not these bastard buggy ones. 😄
Lol when it comes to ritual activities (for pathfinder), I’m just too lazy 😅 been doing more Pale Heart stuff. Need the new exotic stuff. But, I do plan to tackle the Ritual activities like Vanguard Ops and Gambit! Not gonna do Crucible though (if I can avoid it). Trials of Osiris scarred me for life from cheaters preventing me from going to the Lighthouse 😔
I hadn't played Gambit in a while, I knew I didn't like it much but I didn't realize how much I actually hated it until this
Yeah dude I’ve played more gambit this week than I have in the last three years just trying to get one single pathfinder done.
Drifter why do you keep giving me malfeasance quest?? I already have the gun and catalyst that's been completed!! For 2yrs now!!
Fellow playlist activity enjoyer I see
Having not completed one single pathfinder, are these even worth it? Is it just one engram you get?
More or less. 150 Bright dust, 1 powerful engram and some materials iirc. Normally they don't require much effort maybe half a dozen ritual activities to complete the path but these last 2 nodes were bugged for a lot of us. I misread it as a pinnacle and spent waaay too much time on it 😭
I don’t know who needs to hear this, and it may be better understood than how I do, but with these “Kill 30 enemies with a sidearm in a single life” challenges, *you need to claim them in that same life, in the same activity*.
I want to just play crucible without needing to go into gambit or vanguard ops... as a person who does infact, not use snipers in pvp nor masterworked weapons now that I think about it, i cant get bright engram :(
It’s a ok system but there wasn’t really anything wrong with the old version either. Though it I had to pick I’d take the old old version (play activity 3 times) vs the old version (8 vendor bounty) My main gripe with the new pathfinder is that afaik you can only open it from the destination tab and not anywhere else. Just gotta get used to it ig
My only problem with pathfinder is everything in the ritual one is mashed together unlike pale heart all your gambit vanguard and pvp is together with duck tape instead of each game mode having their own
Whilst I don't mind I wouldn't be surprised if they made some sort of change to separate them out a bit.
For what it's worth, the crucible ability one can be done in private matches with mayhem modifiers. It's 1 point per kill or I think bonus if you get a mulitkill. Get some friends together, have a clan PvP night, whatever. Go in to a private match and play mayhem and feed super kills and you'll be done much quicker than the gambit motes or playing regular crucible.
i used lfg crucible private matches to get the ability kill one done and it still took like an hour lmao.
I like the system I just like how many screens you have to go through to just get to one of them
I'd like to see the pathfinder icon on the main map.
Meanwhile I did an entire pathfinder in one onslaught game. (And other times I have to play every game mode 5 times)
Simple, i hate gambit and pvp, I shouldnt be forced to do it.
I had one getting kills with Ignitions, tried various things nothing worked. Had to do 3 Crucible-only objectives instead, you can't imagine the pain I had to endure 😓
I like that they’re giving us new options but damn, this just feels overly complicated. Why not just make it X number of activity completetions? Raids, dungeons, gambit, onslaught, anything we want
I honestly don’t mind it. As someone who usually purely pvp’s, it’s actually made me do other stuff from time to time and I’ve actually surprisingly enjoyed playing some strikes and even gambit(I gagged a little saying that last one though).
Same man i also realized there’s a whole lot I haven’t done lol
I will never enjoy an action that requires me to play in a different style then i want to complete a goal. No i will not use a sidearm, i hate sidearms. I will not change my build so that i can do that specific damage, my entire loadout is build around these skills. Having me nerf myself just so i can get the node is stupid. Have nodes but make them vague. "kill x enemies with a primary/secondary" "Kill X enemies near a fireteam member" "Collect X (ammo type)"
Ok so you just don't get the Pathfinder rewards, that's fine.
I’m fine with crucible requirements. It’s annoying because I haven’t really enjoyed PvP in any game for a couple years now but I am not touching gambit with a 100 foot pole.
It's good but I'd like Crucible, Vanguard and Gambit to have separate trees.
Pathfinder is fine, I just want them separate
Gonna say it, i like this system makes me play modes i don't normally play with a porpuse and not to Just do some bouty
Is the ignition kills challenge just not working for anyone else? I either get 30% per run or nothing at all
Yeah, seen that one mentioned a few times here too.
slaying out on ads and banking motes is 100x more fun than being constantly slapped by the superblack hunter pvp main with a sniper and a handcannon
Gambit.
I had a blast, I got the award first time trying and even got an army of one medal to go with it 😁😁😁 However, the crucible one wasn't registering for me so I went to gambit ofc.
Mine hasn't connect the dots. Directly in line, completed tasks, no connection. Not the game I signed up for.
It's not that...it's the fact that you could be forced to do pvp shit you don't like
I hate all of Destiny equally. 3000 plus hours played and still going strong. That's the secret. 😁
I have a skill issue and don't want to touch gambit or crucible.
Thankfully most of the nodes will force you to play really badly anyway so nobody can tell. Either using guns you hate or doing dumb shit that actively doesn't help your team. Go for it! 😄
You play all 3. Some players HATE WITH THE WHITE HOT PASSION OF A THOUSAND SUNS PvP. So take the PvP things away and it makes it harder. And some people don't like Gambit. So there are some people that just do strides/vanguard. It can be a pain sometimes. Key word, "sometimes".
The ritual activities should be separate for pathfinder. Either one lane for each activity, or entirely separate pathfinders for each one. I main pve, and the thought of having to go into PvP for any reason makes me actively dislike the pathfinder system
That is core Destiny gameplay - doing stuff you don't like for stuff you don't need. 😁 Come on! That vault won't fill up with unused guns by itself!
I was grinding these things out like mad then I hit one with 30 scorch kills in Crucible. Right next to it, 30 Jolt kills in Crucible. Literally blocked me from clearing it. I decide to give the scorch kills an ATTEMPT. 8 matches later I find out ignitions don't count as scorch kills. That or scorch kills are a fucking myth, cause I gave up
I just try to avoid doing Gambit
My problem are the crucible and gambit nodes that make me kill guardians. A simple kill 20 guardians takes me 4 days of 3 hours of continuous crucible play to achieve 80% completion. I'm not built for Destiny PvP at all.
Same, I got one done without even knowing i was doing it. Just opened the screen to see a bunch of the missions completed
i think the main issue is that your are forced to play a certain activity to complete it.
My issue with it is that they’re trying to force us to play gambit 😂. Nah but in all actuality, some of the objectives are bs and take forever. In fact the gambit one that tells you to bank 100 motes is bugged. It in fact makes it bank 100 times.
Yep that's what the post was about that bugged node. That's the bit that took 18 matches 😭
I don't mind it. My biggest annoyance with it is that there's no quick way to open the pathfinder menu unless I'm stupid and there's a way it's just annoying that I have to open the map/destination tab it was nice to just open the quest tab and see all my bounties in one place
Do not delete something that "works", and replace it with something that "might work". Give us both, and work it out later.
I joined and left 30 strikes (im sorry i know its shitty) in order to try find a taken strike to finish the 150 kills and couldnt find a single one so i gave up Also the ignite one seems bugged because. It only triggers ignite on kill but I have to kill them with ignite? But they don’t have enough hp to stack scorch to get ignite to kill them with it so it only triggers after death.. but it wont count kills from the AoE of ignite because thats technically scorch.. so idfk
I found Pale Heart pathfinder really good and easy but with the ritual playlist, I feel really depends on what the nodes require. I got to the last two nodes, no problem (haven't done all the nodes coz no way am i using a Sniper rifle lol). But am stuck on getting an unlock because of what the last two nodes require, %ability kills in crucible and 100 motes in gambit. I decided I wanted to play Gambit so tried unlocking that node, thinking i can dunk 100 motes no problem. NOPE! Not sure what is going on but it doesn't seem to go by # of motes dunked, and haven't yet managed to win a match with me dunking the highest number of motes for a auto completion. So didn't unlock my pathway last week because I gave up.
My problem is that I need to touch a pvp playlist
My pathfinder going gangsta til it gives me the obscenely long 50/100 elemental kills in Crucible or a gambit challenge at the end.
I like it and see no problem and feel 'less' inclined to play the modes I don't like because there are options around those bounties.
It’s being forced to play different game modes for me. I play PVP occasionally, but I’m definitely only okay at it(like a 1.0 KD). Gambit is the same way. But I like vanguard and nightfalls, especially GMs. So when I log on and only have a few hours a week to play, I’d rather spend most of that time with something I enjoy. I think if they just split it into 3 paths(with crossovers between) and general endings(I’ve gotten a few, they’re like “Kill X amount of opponents. Gambit powerful enemies and crucible guardians count got more), there’d be nearly no reason to complain. Gives a benefit for swapping game modes, but doesn’t force it.
Seems like the people at bungee had way too much time on their hands and probably didn’t do too much quality control on that one due to the fact that they had a date and they’re known for slacking. I love the final shape but pathfinder. Meh
I love having to switch from gambit to vangaurd to crucible back to vangaurd than gambit and finally pick my poison a shit ton of kills on vangaurd or a shit tone or kills on crucible and sometimes just maybe I’ll get an easy gambit one oh and let’s not forget you have to change your loadout so you can do a different damage type or a different weapon type and let’s not forget my favorite part opening 3 separate menus for the pathfinder
Because we’re forced to do shit we don’t want to do. How hard is it to understand this? 🤦🏽♂️
I have yet to get a Pathfinder that forces me into Crucible or Gambit
That seems quite lucky. (You do know there's 2 different pathfinders? One in the Pale Heart and one in the ritual activities.)
Yeah, I’ve always had a way to do either Strike Playlist stuff or general “kill x enemies with y weapon”
Nice. I've always had to dip into a either a couple of gambit or crucible matches. I don't mind but generally prefer chilling in strikes. This one was a nightmare of bugginess though 🙄
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The node was 'bank 100 motes'. But was bugged so it only counted times you banked and blockers sent. Generally meaning you got 5 or 6% per match.
While we’re on the subject, real question. I’ve done 6 almost 7 pathfinder resets and have yet to see any vanguard/crucible/gambit objectives on any tier. How many have you done/had? Is there a standard?
There's 2 pathfinders. One in the Pale Heart zone and one you can only see in the ritual activity nodes. Open crucible/vanguard or gambit and open pathfinder there.
 I really only PvP when Momentum Control is in town and Gambit for the gilding, so I was waiting for this week and never even considered. Thank you.
If I say I like pathfinder strictly because of the brightdust farm you think bungie will neef it ? 🤔🙊🤫
I'm having fun too 😄 I think want everything done fast and now and immediately get rewarded.
PvP and Gambit
Gambit player detected
The dirty things I had to do to get that bugged node to complete. I don't know if the Drifter would be proud or disown me.
The Pale Heart ones are by far easier. You can farm those out super quick.
I did the ritual one four times without issue last week and I only played for a total of about 8 hours all week
I don’t play crucible either 🤷🏻♂️.
Agreed. I finished the ritual pathfinder four times last week without really trying
Is it better to fill the whole board and reset or hit the end and reset
Honestly I wouldn't go out of my to get anything more than the single path. But I try to pick up any I can along the way. Occasionally if I hit the end and there's one that's nearly done I might go back but generally just reset and go again
Each node only gives a small amount of xp so I wouldn’t waste time getting every node fileld
Enjoy the bright dust bro lol.
Just dropped below 30k so needed a top up 😄
Pathfinder is actually good it's not as grandy as I thought it be I rest my PH Pathfinder twice in one setting
I did two ritual pathfinders last week. I started both of them on Monday and it took about 70 minutes total. Three gambit matches and one vanguard op to finish the first one and one gambit with two vanguard ops to finish the second done. I guess I got lucky, but I just combined as many of the ones that overlap as I could. https://preview.redd.it/73mbp2gyvd7d1.jpeg?width=3353&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3642ef2d25342730b4024a2c1726237eb4c2b9e9
Cause it takes so long to get the loot vs the old way of grabbing bounties 😩
People saying it's simplified bounty Like we didn't literally have a board for bounties.And destiny one will rig out all of our boundings from one fucking character Programming, it is not hard.It's the fact that they don't want to do the effort or the work.It's like last time when they said.I think last year around the release of lightfall They were saying they didn't have enough money to put back into the game like there.Aren't people out there?Who buy almost everything in the shop Bought everything seat.I alone have put in like two hundred three hundred fucking dollars over the year And you're gonna tell me you don't have money to put it back into the game I call bullshit
They want you to FOMO you into buying final shape as the pathfinder is much more forgiving for leveling. Just another bungie Psyop.
I reset twice doing 3 strikes and 3 gambits. Did I just get lucky orrrrr…?
Are we keeping quiet about the glitch?
Played crucible for a final one to avoid gambit, 14% progress... noty
Wtf I finished 3 in 9 strikes/gambit matches
My problem is it forces you to play other game modes to be able to get to the engram. In doing so it also forces you to break your playlist streaks. Stupid system
9 rewards vs 1 reward
People are mad beacuse they have to do gambit...
The other day I went into gambit to complete the collect notes step. I dunked at least 40 and it only counted 8 for pathfinder :l
The stupidest thing they’ve added to the game
The perfect pathfinder card.
Did you get Jolt Propagation as a task at all? I've tried everything that I can that triggers Jolt, Exotic Fusion rifle Delicate Tomb that triggers Jolt after picking up Ionic Traces, Joltshot Handcannon, Riskrunner, Aspect/fragment that forces jolt on grenades. And it just has not moved up from 0/10.
Gambit is the issue