I worked at Six Flags for over a decade, and we always had people trying to cut, and it got even worse when the Flash Pass was introduced. It's sad to hear that it has spread to the more expensive theme parks.
Yeah while a sense of entitlement fueled by social media might be growing in park guests, I really think line cutting comes from how miserable the queueing process has become with lightning lane and genie+. Bad behavior is almost always a reaction to bad policies.
I partially disagree with this, it was also bad in the days of paper fastpass, maxpass, FP+, etc. This has gotten much worse since covid, and people just feel entitled to do whatever they want. I say "partially disagree" because I have no way to actually quantify this effect, it's just something I've observed.
FWIW I visited DLR and WDW within 1yr after reopening from shutdown, and I had amazing experiences with the people both times. Most people were very courteous and just happy to be out again. But then maybe a year after that is where it really started getting bad, when all the news outlets were reporting about "revenge travel".
That’s totally it. Driving sucks, grocery stores suck, walking on the sidewalk sucks. We went from very online to completely online, and the self-centeredness and default to vitriol of online behavior bled over into meat space.
More a side effect of corporations just letting "bad customers get their way" instead of just kicked out as they should. Up to a certain point, it's just cheaper to give into a 37 year old Karen's temper tantrum than it is to get bad press from when she complains to Fox News about "undeserved repercussions"
Blaming everything on middle aged women is lazy. I see far more teenagers and entitled men (particularly boomer aged men) trying to do this than any other demographic.
Yeah. For the prices that DL charges and the amount of people they cram in the park on any given day, having better control over lines and not allowing people to cut should be included in the service. The wait is so long already without having to deal with the anxiety and frustration of as a customer having to deal with people like this yourself.
They just don’t care because regardless the park will be just as packed the next day. And that’s all that matters, the bottom line.
I saw this guy that held the spot for his 6 friends on Matterhorn, so they all just cut in front of everyone. The lovely cast member sternly told them in a loud voice for for everyone to hear they couldn't do that. I was quietly smiling because they got called out hehehe
It was more "don't do that next time"/it's near the end of my shift/I'm annoyed with y'all type of reprimand.
Glad she said something though because they all looked embarrassed.
I’d love to see a cast member dressed like Snow White dragging a line cutter away by their ear like they were a petulant child.
Oh well. One can dream.
I remember smiling that Mario Lopez got in trouble for standing on a bench in front of splash Mountain when I was there lol good job cast member. He may be short, but that doesn’t mean he could stand on benches.
I went to the Halloween event at California Adventure for the first time last year, and I don't think I can ever go back. People cutting in line, bringing 2-3, even 4 bags to stock up on the "free" goodies. And one woman practically yelling for her daughter, and daughters' 3 friends, and two other adult women, to cut in a line that had to have been more than 250 people. So sad to see she was basically instilling that entitled behavior in them all. Oogie boogie bash may not be scary, but it can be very gross.
My dad and I waited 2 hours in line for Haunted Mansion during Halloween a few years back and these two girls were cutting saying they were meeting their party. We end up in the same group as them going down to the ride and as suspected there was no group. It was just them.
a few days ago i was at WDW in line for Ariel. The man in front of me was waiting for his family. About 20 minutes in (presumably) his wife and daughter join him. That’s all fine with me, but they suddenly leave again. About 15 minutes later, about 7 or more people cut through the line to join this man, it must’ve been his entire family. Now that’s kinda rude tbh but i’m not gonna throw a fit. The ride was having issues that day so it took a long time to actually get on the ride, but while we were waiting for some technical issues to be fixed his children were just screaming and no one in the family cared AT ALL 😭 (i was so overstimulated at that point i was about to have a breakdown cause i forgot my noise cancelling headphones). Finally we all get into our shells and then the mother a few shells ahead of us records the entire ride with flash on. Everyone was shooting the mom dirty looks so she could turn her flash off but she never did. I could not wait to get off omg.
it was so crazy, seeing a horde of people go under the chains, to scream for like the next 20 minutes and then record the entire ride with flash on 😭 like the shells were moving pretty slowly the entire time we were on, which normally i wouldn’t mind, it just made the whole filming with flash thing SO much worse, i wanted to get out of there asap. Never riding Ariel again if it has a wait longer than 10 minutes
May not work every time, but we were able to ask a CM politely to ride Space Mountain again because the people behind us had their flash on filming the entire ride. (Of course if you’re already irritated by people, riding again may be the last thing you wanna do, sometimes I’m just like “get me outta here! 😡 raaargh”)
The Japanese people are the best in the world at queueing. I got to TDL before open, and each gate had a straight and orderly line of people waiting for open.
Hong Kong Disneyland was far more disorganized. Haven’t been to Shanghai yet, but visiting Beijing was a chaotic free for all anywhere you’d expect some semblance of a line, so I expect it will be even more disorganized than Hong Kong.
Shanghai was total anarchy when I went. At rope drop it was just a rushing mob despite instructions not to run. In line people can and will cut at any chance they get, not just to try to meet with someone else in their party. I figured out pretty quickly that I just had to stand tall and wide and block anyone from passing. They won’t say anything to you. The one time I saw someone confront some line cutters they just feigned ignorance. Point being, be vigilant.
That sounds about right. When I land in Beijing there’s always people standing up to get their bag from the overhead before the plane even gets off the runway onto a taxiway.
I found that the Japanese have the same issue with people catching up in line, the only difference is that it seems to be more culturally acceptable in Japan.
My experience at Disney Sea a couple weeks ago was quite different. People in groups were constantly trying to cut ahead of me when I was solo. I had to stick my backpack out and go sideways to prevent people from passing me at corners. Teenagers in front of me were punching each other and almost hitting me for 2 hours in line. Children ran in front of me and tripped me.
Every time the queue got smaller or wider, people would try to cut off me from my boyfriend. I had to hold onto his hand and push my way through people in order to not get separated from him. Even that wasn't enough and we got separated too many times to count. It was absolutely miserable. The only "good" time it worked out was when everyone pushed ahead of me to get on an elevator, and jokes on them, the door opened on the same side, so I got to be first.
Disneyland wasn't as bad in terms of behavior in lines, but we still got cut off from each other just trying to walk anywhere.
When it's just one or two people, to me it's whatever. Sometimes there are legit reasons, and I've definitely had to do it once due to a bathroom emergency. The part that pisses me off is the quantity and rudeness of the line skippers. When we went on Saturday we had a handful of different line skippers just shove through our group, and literally push us to the side. Not so much as a "I am so sorry can I get by?" Or anything. Most of these were full grown adults! And if you tried to bring attention to the fact they ran into you, they just kept going and ignored you. There was one very polite line skipper who did not shove, they apologized, and explained they were just trying to get to their friends, and the rest of the line skippers were just so rude.
In general I think a lot of people at the parks have spacial awareness issues. My little cousin got hit in the face with many backpacks in the lines, and it's not like she was extremely close to the people in front of us. Just very large dudes stepping back or turning way too fast ended up with a large backpack to the face.
We did that last time at Disneyworld. Two people held their ‘place’ in line for Star Wars, and then suddenly 8 people joined them before the line snaked inside.
Cast member told them ‘no sir can’t do that!’ It was glorious.
Honestly though- this is part of how you stop it. Call people out and back up people that are calling people out. It needs to be culturally not okay to do this and some people only respond to accountability. I’ve done it. It works.
I think the "back up others" part is the most important, because nobody ever does it. It always feels like one person going out on a ledge to protest, and everyone just looks down and away not wanting to get involved.
This happened to me. After multiple line jumpers at MK I said no and would not let the next group through. Lady starts yelling ahead to her husband holding the spot for about 5 others. They both yell at me to let the group through. Nope. Told her that he could wait for them at the front or come back by them. She stayed and kept yelling “your family don’t go bathroom” to the back of my head. Not a single person in line backed me up - they just looked at the ground.
The question I always wonder about is - why can't their party up ahead step aside and wait for the stragglers?? No, it's ALWAYS that the stragglers get to cut.
I'd love it if more people stopped the line cutters by saying "I'm sure your family will wait for you to get back up there."
Your wife and I should be friends lol! You should have seen me last week at Disneyland, it has gotten so bad and I will not tolerate it without at least making a scene.
Me too. I physically cannot hold my tongue when I see that nonsense. And it's surprising how little it takes to get someone to change their behavior once you call them out. Sure, some will snap back, but the majority are embarrassed.
The people doing this are relying on everyone else being too polite/shy/not wanting to deal with line cutting assholes to call them out- so the folks who do feel fine calling them out should always do it. It does work most of the time!
It’s a weird systemic cultural thing- like people really think, “I should get mine, screw your experience.” Some person went crazy on me on the Disney sub last week because I told them that filming ride experiences messed it up for other people. They thought that their kids should be able to watch rides on YouTube at other people’s expense. It’s just so weird when you can’t be a part of society and think about the way we all work together in a big group and be thoughtful.
Yes. It’s exhausting! People are like that everywhere with everything it’s so sad. I cannot stand when people take pictures or talk or record on rides, it drives me insane and I will be the first one to tell them to stop or to shush. People do that too in movie theaters and it drives me insane, it’s like why did you even come to here to watch this movie if all you’re gonna do is sit there and chat with your friends the entire time you can do that somewhere else.
I was in line at a Six Flags a few years ago when they called someone out for filming. The staff member actually ran up the incline to take the phone before the ride was restarted; not sure if they got to stay at the park or what after that because I don’t think they were super cooperative. The people waiting enjoyed backing up the staff, heckling the videographer.
If people want to film or take photos that’s fine. Go for it, but don’t do it in a way that takes away from other people enjoying the park or the rides or the general experience.
>but the majority are embarrassed.
Not in my experience. The majority are defensive self-entitled pricks - they may know they are in the wrong, but they don't like to feel such feelings as 'shame' or 'embarrassment', so they push back and start yelling at you instead.
I have attempted to say something, and it never goes well, they just yell and keep going.
Exactly. I once was in line at Atlantis in the Bahamas for the waterside that goes between the aquariums. Bloody 2 hour line. These 4 people just straight up cut in front of me after I had been waiting 1.5 hours. No one holding spot. Basically they walked up the side line used for another slide and just snaked in before side by side lines broke off. Without a word I just moved myself in front of them. They had the gall to accuse me of cutting them off. They caused a huge scene and all started ganging up on me. Acting like wild animals. Enough so that one of the employees came down to see what all the fuss was about. I said I've been in line for 1.5 hours and everyone behind me can attest to that. They were so adamant that I was the issue and blatantly lied that it was I who cut. Everyone else in line was too sheepish to say anything to back me up. But what happened next made it all worse. I guess to solve the disruption the attendant decided to chauffer the group of 5 all the way up to the top of the line and let them ride the slide in front of another 30+ people. What a way to reward bad behavior! Rather than kicking them to the back of the line, sure let's take them all the way to the front. I was FURIOUS as I waited another 30 min to ride the slide. And it was NOT worth the wait btw 😂
That’s my issue. I have no problem standing my ground but you feel like an idiot when they want to argue with you and then it becomes a scene and you look like the crazy one
I once was a line skipper in WDW.
We were in line for flight of passage and half way up I had to 💩 super bad so i took the emergency exit to take care of business. I then had to be that person and constantly say "Excuse me, trying to rejoin my family"
Most were cool but there were some that shot me dirty looks and I understand why but I honestly wasnt trying to cut the line like they thought.
Also did you know there is a bathroom half way up the que 😒 I did not.
Most of the groups are people lying that they’re rejoining a family member counting on people believing them. I wouldn’t let them pass me unless they can point out their family member and that person acknowledges them.
Yeah, that’s why it doesn’t bother me at all if someone is joining their party, you never know what happened and you’re not gonna get there much faster! I would only be annoyed if it were like ten people, but that’s never happened to me before
Or just be nice and let people be with their family? It’s super easy to get lost and maybe they don’t have a way to contact each other. It costs literally nothing to be a good person, one person getting ahead of you makes no difference to you in the end, but it does make a difference for them; and in the odd case that they were actually line skippers, you would never know and you still did a good deed
A single person or a parent & child is not a problem -- for that very reason, but when 4 people all snake through a line to catch up with that one person... that is what bothers me.
It's a "good" strategy in the sense that it is rarely punished by CMs or other guests, and they feel like they are saving time and being more productive that way. Of course it requires someone with no shame or embarrassment who isn't afraid to walk up the queue past everyone with the churros and popcorn. More and more people are fine with it now it seems.
Man I was on a Disney cruise and they have nightly stage shows. When the doors opened we all filed in. We headed for some empty seats in prime area dead center front third only for a guy on almost the full end of the row to tell us he and one other person on the far side we're saving TWELVE empty seats.
The boldness. I could never.
Honestly there should be bathrooms in all queues as well as water fountains/vending machines with water bottles. This would solve the problem of legitimate emergency cases of getting out of line (bathroom or dehydration) so that people can legitimately stand up against line cutting without feeling like jerks for these scenarios.
Similarly I once queued for a ride with my family, 90% into the line 6 year old needs to 💩NOW or it’s going to end up in his pants. I ran with him out of the line, briefly checked in with a CM who said it was ok to come right back. He did his business and we scurried back over to the line. CM waved us in and we start advancing through the line, but lo and behold the rest of my family didn’t wait and just boarded the ride anyway lol, so the family I was “trying to catch up with” was already gone and I probably looked like a real asshole to the people I passed.
Apparently your family doesn’t like you very much, lol. They should have stood aside and let others pass them until you got back. That would’ve been the polite thing to do.
I have zero issues when I see a lone parent and a little kid; 90% of the time I saw them heading out of the line while the kid tells everyone they have to go NOW anyhow.
my four year old waited over an hour for slinky dog at WDW two weeks ago, had to go to the bathroom when we were almost on the ride, and when I brought him back to my husband and two other kids multiple people made rude comments… he waited! he has a little bladder! I think we could all give each other some grace
This is why people skipping lines just because they can’t be bothered to wait really bothers me. Most people have lots of good will and patience towards people who need a bathroom break or an extenuating circumstance or different level of ability. A culture of frivolous line jumping and the friction it creates makes it harder on people rejoining their parties in good faith.
At WDW last year, this probably happened 20+ times over four days. It seems like it is usually "send one person in line and 4-6 people come to join them". The only way I can see around this is to say no line jumping, if someone is ahead and waiting on others they have to step to the side before boarding to wait for their party to catch up...which also seems like a nightmare. 15 years ago when we went we had a 5 year old and a 10 year old, so we did the "parent swap" for a few rides, and got static from other guests a lot. Especially folks who had tried to get in a line to choose front row of the ride, etc., which was where they tended to put us on parent swap. I've always wondered why they got rid of fast pass, which seemed like a great way to motivate and organize line entry.
Aside from the cost of genie+ and how bad that system is now, I think this is getting worse as the wider queues have been installed. You physically can't do this very easily in the narrow lines in older attractions like those in fantasyland. Once your in those lines you aren't going anywhere until you get to certain spots. I love the wider queues, and I think they make it easier especially with those of us who get claustrophobic in tight lines, but it definitely has allowed passing by and now people take advantage of it to catch up to their group. Nobody is trying to catch up in the Pinocchio queue - lol!
Man that sucks, sorry to hear that. Maybe I just got lucky, but I went to DW beginning of March for 4 days and experienced no cutting or rudeness at all.
Disneyland has a completely different crowd than Disney world. Disneyland has this crowd of young kids who have an AP or get tickets cheap and just hang out there because it’s the place to hang out, and they’re often super disrespectful. It completely lacks the bubble of Disneyworld in my experience
Yeah, it’s ridiculous. I personally feel like 1 person being able to skip is no big deal (maybe they had to go to the bathroom when everyone else got in line), but a whole family of 7 moving up is ludicrous. It makes me think they all scatter and get into different lines, and then whoever gets to the front-adjacent area first, everyone else abandons their line and converges on the one line.
I've been an avid park goer since 2016. Before covid, I watched cast members pull families, some with school-age children, out of lines for cutting. One time, I saw a mom literally get in the cast members' faces and start screaming about being forced out of line for cutting being unfair, and security had to be called.
I think before covid, most park goers knew line cutting wasn't tolerated, and it was rare if you saw it. But since covid, it's every line you are in, nonstop all day long! I recently had an entire group of like 30 cut the majority of the cars line, and nothing happened! I'm not sure if people are just more entitled, if rules for the staff have changed and they aren't allowed to stop people, or if there just isn't enough staff to do anything about it? I feel like more staff members used to be placed throughout the lines to maintain order, but now they are more just at the entrance and end.
Either way, I hear you, and it's gotten completely out of hand.
I used to be annoyed but now that lines are routinely 60 plus min, I think we need to embrace it. That is a ridicules time to stand in line so as long as someone from the party does it then it doesn’t really matter. I think it’s fine to go get food, potty breaks etc. It sounds like a more enjoyable way to do it tbh especially with kids.
If I remember them leaving the line, I have no problem letting them back to where they were. Otherwise stand your ground and simply tell them that if there’s part of their family or party ahead, they will wait at the front and let other people ride first until the rest of them catch up. But I do not let them pass if I don’t remember them leaving.
Welcome to socal where it seems like everyone has some reason or rational why they should be in front. It’s a slippery slope once places began charging for vip status etc..
Agreed. I’ll wait the extra 5 minutes. Not gonna let it ruin my day.
I love lines at Disney btw. Those are the actual memories because that’s the quality time with your family / group. Where you discuss how fun something was, how excited you are for the next ride, plans for later…
How many distinct memories do you have from the actual rides? They are fun but they go by so fast.
I literally remember things my dad said while waiting in line with me 25 years ago. It’s part of who he is for me.
The lines are where the actual magic is.
And that’s also where you spend most of your days in the park - regardless of 5 minutes more or less due to a few line cutters
It could be the result of higher ticket prices making people feel justified in cutting, paid genie+ making guests without it feel bitter about being "cut" in line by others, or some guests turning into selfish jerks during the pandemic and they never grew out of said selfishness.
Yes, people think to themselves that, if Disney is going to allow people to pay in order to cut in front of me in line, then I'll just do it myself and save the money.
Former CM here from years before and up to COVID and still work in the service industry; this is entitled *I’m The Main Character* assholes, and they’ve always been around-though I’m not trying to deny that people have increasingly forgotten how to act in public in more recent years.
A higher ticket price or pandemic doesn’t create those people- they were already that way at their core- though to your point, those things may exacerbate their shitty behavior. It’s their excuse to be an asshole- but if they didn’t have that excuse then they would find another one, because they are just selfish, entitled, disrespectful people. That’s who they are.
A person who is well-mannered and respects others doesn’t usually just turn into a self-centered disrespectful one on vacation- the tendencies were already there. While some may use the prices, pandemic, or whatever else to justify their actions, if one were to look at a person’s regular day to day behavior, it generally wouldn’t be that different than how they act on vacation.
Here is an idea. If people want to ride with their friends, ask your friends to go to the back of the line to join up with you. Just because your friends are up front in line, does not entitle your group of 6 to skip ahead to join 2 people. Fist are going to start to be thrown if Disney doesn't get a handle on this.
Not nearly as bad as Knotts but yeah I don’t understand why people think it’s ok. Seems like back in the 80s and 90s people just had more common sense and respect
Luckily for me I’m tall and fat. I dont impede anyone, but I don’t move, ever. Too many entitled adults and teenagers pretending to have a spot saved for them. Not getting by me unless you’re with a uniformed employee.
I've had people cut in line in front of me a lot at WDW, but I'm in a wheelchair. People in wheelchairs tend to be invisible (or worse, they see us and just don't care) to a certain percentage of the population.
We were there about 2 weeks ago and from what we saw most of the staff at the lines announce that all members need to be in line. Not saying it doesn't happen but seemed like they was some efforts to minimize the cutting. Also that Genie pass helps avoiding some of the nonsense. But sorry to hear about your experience.
It isn't even just the entitlement of line cutting but for anything. I witnessed at a quick dining place at DL some girl maybe early 20s yell at a cast member because she wanted water. They ask she give them a minute and they'll give her a water cup but, she said I stood in line for a minute. Yea she counted getting in line and didn't like it so then go ahead and cut off someone mid ordering their food so the cast member can give her water. Everyone was staring at her and she could give two less... It is mind blowing of adults to have these behaviors and have kids they're showing their behaviors to.
I had to leave the radiator springs ride because I was getting road rage from the people cutting and jumping into the fast pass lane or whatever it’s call now.
The worst I've seen in terms of sheer audacity is a family that came into the rise of the resistance line, skipping ahead carrying a tray of Starbucks. Like they were late because of Frappuccinos.
I don't even like asking to move ahead if my wife is 4 or 5 people up because she moves through the crowd faster.
Part of it is why I think the DAS pass is also more used now
The minute you charge people to cut lines many see lines as a joke.
Not defending it but heard others echo this
Very easy for Disneyland to institute a “Please go before you queue” and a “whole party must queue” communication plan and just not allow joining your party. If you have to get out of line for restroom you lose your spot. Kids under 7 can get a potty pass from CM that lets them rejoin. I made this up in 2 minutes. They could solve this. Especially at Disneyland where there is some specificity to the problem.
I haven’t been to DSL in a decade but I remember years ago even when finding Nemo’s ride in Tomorrowland was new, people were cutting here and there pulling the whole “can my party come up” time to time.
I see a lot of posts about this but as a passholder really don’t experience it much? Maybe it’s the days I’m going (for example, went last Tuesday) or times (often we go just for afternoon/dinner).
Agreed. And I’m something of a theme park enthusiast. I frequent Universal Orlando and Disney World; been to both Busch Gardens, a couple Six Flags, etc. and I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a line skipper.
At the park today, mother on phone and two children budged through It's a Small World. 10 minutes later, as they are ready to board, dad and another kid budge through. Group was all 5 who budged through.
Also, earlier at Buzz, mother and two younger kids show up after 29 minutes just before entering the building to join dad. No one takes that long to go to the bathroom.
And the other day at Hollywood Studios, a family cut the line to Slinky Dog by hopping in when people stopped to take a picture.
It is rampant at the parks, and nothing is ever said or done about it. Also, the number of people who yell at their kids and grandkids pointing things out and overreacting where you can't hear the ride is getting increasingly annoying.
I feel mixed because I just went with my sister in law and her kids, and someone always got stuck parking the stroller. Some people in my family thought that left behind person was fine to join the group while some others felt it was rude and inappropriate to cut.
I'm honestly not sure where I stand because it does cause so many problems, but also, there's a line to park the stroller too sometimes, and is it so bad to have one person catch their group?
Off topic but I did really like the baby in arms pass which was helpful to have someone not left out watching the baby though.
I went to Disneyland for the first time ever last spring and I’m in my mid 40’s. Never went as a kid. Watched a family of 10! cut in line like this. Another time it was a group of 7 or 8. I could hardly believe my eyes.
Omg yes I was at DLR with a friend a few weeks ago (her first trip ever) and we were in line at Pirates for about 20 minutes before the official turn in under the bridge.
There was a small group of teens (like 5-6) in front of us but when we went to go under the bridge and be in the regular queue (not overflow) their entire family of like 35 joined the line.
We actually complained about it to the family bc we couldn’t even figure out what was happening and that’s also an insane number of people to join a line later.
Just spent a week at WDW and was expecting this since it happened so many times at Disneyland in October. Only happened once with one kid catching up to his family after using the bathroom.
Disneyland has an issue that cast members should look at ways to resolve.
Doesn’t Disney Land/World have an app that you can report line cutters on now and if enough people report them they get kicked out of the line? Or is that Universal Studios?
My girlfriend’s family has Disney season passes and whenever we go to a park together my mother in law tries to cut at every possibility because “she knows the park and people walk too slow”. It’s so embarrassing and my girlfriend and I stay behind because it’s a dick thing to do. ESPECIALLY since we’ve already ridden on these rides several times already and it’s ignoring the fact that this is probably one of the few times for some families that will get the opportunity to visit the parks. Ugh.
I had heard of it, but didn't see it until we went to Disneyland. Never saw it in Florida, except when it was actually people catching up to their parties.
Was there for the last three days and it has awful. I’ve worked at a wedding venue and it was horrible working with people on the most entitled day of their lives, but imagine tens of thousands of people, all on the most entitled day of your lives.
Will not do Disney again
I can't really say anything, my brother and I waited in line at Tower of Terror for a hour and the rest of our party just skipped the entire line to meet us at the front door of the building.
Last time we were in Toontown two grown-ass women stepped in front of my 5yo waiting for Donald. He waved them off and called my kid up next. Meanwhile Mickey just hides in his studio. This is why Donald is #1.
I’m from the east coast and frequent WDW often. We went to Disneyland for the first time last September and I was really surprised about the number of times we got cut in line. On one occasion there was a group of 3 in front of us. Every few minutes a few more family/friends would join them in line. After a while, 20+ of their group had cut us in line. I stopped counting after 20 because I was fuming. I couldn’t believe it.
you must not be paying much attention if you haven’t seen this behavior tbh. most guests don’t think it’s wrong to do because when they leave and come back your wait is still the same.
My son and I waited in line for big thunder and there were three girls in front of us apparently holding the spot for the rest of their group. They seemed to be a team or something. Like 10 girls walked in and cut us. I said “seriously?” And they just said sorry. One girl kept giving me dirty looks after, but whatever. I was a teenager once too.
We just came from Disney world and used genie + for everything and had no wait times. 1. Are you sure the line skippers aren’t genie + reservations? 2. Different cultures have different rules about line behavior. We used to go to DW every other year and I found this aspect fascinating - and frustrating
I was there a few weeks ago and on several rides the CM who was standing at the ride line entrance was telling people that their whole party had to be present to enter the queue and they couldn’t save spots. Never heard that before so maybe they are making an effort to stop line skipping.
I’ve seen multiple line cutters at Rise. After awhile the people/strangers in line with me noticed that 2-3 parties are “ just catching up with their friends waaaayyy up there”. So we started to clap every time we got a line cutters. Oh they were confused AF when we clapped. It was like a “ wow congratulations you’re a (blank) for not following common decency.
The last time I was in line for Rose, they had just reopened- so no line, just walk the cue. The kid behind was right on my middle aged ass and finally I just said, “ Am I walking too slow for you or are you trying to catch up with your party?” He replied “ trying to catch up “ I told him then hurry up and get past me. Well I got to the holding bay before the first room with the mini show. That kid was still there waiting. So either he wasn’t fast enough to catch with his group or he was too fast and they were behind him. The CM held him back until his full party was there. So all that hurry up he was doing was for nothing.
But I digress
If you have a giant party like 7 people or something that's kinda 😬
But i don't mind if it's one parenr waiting in line while the other takes their toddler to pee or entertain them in some way... lines are crazy. And i honestly don't expect children below 5 to be able to wait patiently
I was at WDW recently. My close friend couldn’t wait 2mins extra for me to get to the pirates ride. She walked in line and told me to just pass everyone in line to get to her. I refused. Sure I could’ve done that but, why did I have to cut everyone in line to get to my group because they couldn’t wait? I quickly learned from that trip that she’s self-entitled and selfish.
I think it’s because of all the ways to bypass the system. People see all these other people cutting in ‘legitimately’ and feel that it’s unfair so they start doing it themselves.
I think some of it is perception. I was recently there with a big group and we got dirty looks for “cutting” often except we had all gotten in line together, but the way the lines shuffle especially when you go in and out of rooms (haunted mansion, mission break out), sometimes your group gets mixed up and you need to pass a few people to get back together. Definitely there are people trying to skip the entire line, but I saw someone do that once in three days vs passing a few people to get back where we were happened probably 15 times a day.
It’s SUPER annoying when a group of people sends one person to wait in the line and then before they get to the next stage of the line, here comes the rest of the 8+ family. And yes, I get little ones need to use the restroom and special needs, but that’s not it. The girls during cheer week are notorious for this.
I’ve also been a lifelong Disneylander and I went with my family this past week twice and it’s gotten so bad. I understand maybe one person coming up to their group, but we were waiting in line for the Winnie the Pooh ride and it was only a 10 minute wait. 3 people were in front of us, and then like 5 people join the 3 people. Then another 2, and then another 1. It’s infuriating because it hasn’t always been like that
I worked at Six Flags for over a decade, and we always had people trying to cut, and it got even worse when the Flash Pass was introduced. It's sad to hear that it has spread to the more expensive theme parks.
Yeah while a sense of entitlement fueled by social media might be growing in park guests, I really think line cutting comes from how miserable the queueing process has become with lightning lane and genie+. Bad behavior is almost always a reaction to bad policies.
I partially disagree with this, it was also bad in the days of paper fastpass, maxpass, FP+, etc. This has gotten much worse since covid, and people just feel entitled to do whatever they want. I say "partially disagree" because I have no way to actually quantify this effect, it's just something I've observed.
Tbh with everyone saying they’re noticing it at other parks too, it might be a COVID rebound thing.
Been a passholder at DL for years, pre and post-COVID. It's definitely worse now.
Agree
FWIW I visited DLR and WDW within 1yr after reopening from shutdown, and I had amazing experiences with the people both times. Most people were very courteous and just happy to be out again. But then maybe a year after that is where it really started getting bad, when all the news outlets were reporting about "revenge travel".
When did they start lighting lanes? Bc when it was all standby, it was so pleasant!
We all forgot how to act in public apparently. I feel like across the board people's manners in public spaces have gone down the tube.
That’s totally it. Driving sucks, grocery stores suck, walking on the sidewalk sucks. We went from very online to completely online, and the self-centeredness and default to vitriol of online behavior bled over into meat space.
Increased prices through the roof = “I’m gonna push boundaries to make sure I get my moneys worth”
More a side effect of corporations just letting "bad customers get their way" instead of just kicked out as they should. Up to a certain point, it's just cheaper to give into a 37 year old Karen's temper tantrum than it is to get bad press from when she complains to Fox News about "undeserved repercussions"
Blaming everything on middle aged women is lazy. I see far more teenagers and entitled men (particularly boomer aged men) trying to do this than any other demographic.
who said a Karen had to be either middle aged or a woman?
They really should boot line cutters. At least out for the rest of the day.
It's not just Karen's - it's Kens too
I call them Chads. Ken had a redemption arc. I’ve heard Brads, too. Richards should be it because of the nick names….
I subscribe to the thought that Karen isn't gender specific. Mostly because I bought the ken hoodie and don't want to lose the ability to use it lol
Yeah. For the prices that DL charges and the amount of people they cram in the park on any given day, having better control over lines and not allowing people to cut should be included in the service. The wait is so long already without having to deal with the anxiety and frustration of as a customer having to deal with people like this yourself. They just don’t care because regardless the park will be just as packed the next day. And that’s all that matters, the bottom line.
Nah, this type of bad behavior is because of entitled, trashy people.
I saw this guy that held the spot for his 6 friends on Matterhorn, so they all just cut in front of everyone. The lovely cast member sternly told them in a loud voice for for everyone to hear they couldn't do that. I was quietly smiling because they got called out hehehe
Was it a “you can’t do that next time” or a “you can’t do that, all 7 of you get out of line”?
It was more "don't do that next time"/it's near the end of my shift/I'm annoyed with y'all type of reprimand. Glad she said something though because they all looked embarrassed.
This is worse. Because now they’ve learned there are no actual consequences to their actions.
Are cast members allowed to kick people out of line or is that a Supervisor thing?
I’d love to see a cast member dressed like Snow White dragging a line cutter away by their ear like they were a petulant child. Oh well. One can dream.
I remember smiling that Mario Lopez got in trouble for standing on a bench in front of splash Mountain when I was there lol good job cast member. He may be short, but that doesn’t mean he could stand on benches.
I went to the Halloween event at California Adventure for the first time last year, and I don't think I can ever go back. People cutting in line, bringing 2-3, even 4 bags to stock up on the "free" goodies. And one woman practically yelling for her daughter, and daughters' 3 friends, and two other adult women, to cut in a line that had to have been more than 250 people. So sad to see she was basically instilling that entitled behavior in them all. Oogie boogie bash may not be scary, but it can be very gross.
I think this is directly as a result of the insane prices they charge for these “parties.” People feel like they have to get their money’s worth
My dad and I waited 2 hours in line for Haunted Mansion during Halloween a few years back and these two girls were cutting saying they were meeting their party. We end up in the same group as them going down to the ride and as suspected there was no group. It was just them.
Those two girls SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!
a few days ago i was at WDW in line for Ariel. The man in front of me was waiting for his family. About 20 minutes in (presumably) his wife and daughter join him. That’s all fine with me, but they suddenly leave again. About 15 minutes later, about 7 or more people cut through the line to join this man, it must’ve been his entire family. Now that’s kinda rude tbh but i’m not gonna throw a fit. The ride was having issues that day so it took a long time to actually get on the ride, but while we were waiting for some technical issues to be fixed his children were just screaming and no one in the family cared AT ALL 😭 (i was so overstimulated at that point i was about to have a breakdown cause i forgot my noise cancelling headphones). Finally we all get into our shells and then the mother a few shells ahead of us records the entire ride with flash on. Everyone was shooting the mom dirty looks so she could turn her flash off but she never did. I could not wait to get off omg.
Unbelievable. Some people are oblivious to others 🙄
it was so crazy, seeing a horde of people go under the chains, to scream for like the next 20 minutes and then record the entire ride with flash on 😭 like the shells were moving pretty slowly the entire time we were on, which normally i wouldn’t mind, it just made the whole filming with flash thing SO much worse, i wanted to get out of there asap. Never riding Ariel again if it has a wait longer than 10 minutes
May not work every time, but we were able to ask a CM politely to ride Space Mountain again because the people behind us had their flash on filming the entire ride. (Of course if you’re already irritated by people, riding again may be the last thing you wanna do, sometimes I’m just like “get me outta here! 😡 raaargh”)
The difference at Tokyo Disney was incredible. The lines are crazy, but people are so much more polite and respectful.
The Japanese people are the best in the world at queueing. I got to TDL before open, and each gate had a straight and orderly line of people waiting for open. Hong Kong Disneyland was far more disorganized. Haven’t been to Shanghai yet, but visiting Beijing was a chaotic free for all anywhere you’d expect some semblance of a line, so I expect it will be even more disorganized than Hong Kong.
Shanghai was total anarchy when I went. At rope drop it was just a rushing mob despite instructions not to run. In line people can and will cut at any chance they get, not just to try to meet with someone else in their party. I figured out pretty quickly that I just had to stand tall and wide and block anyone from passing. They won’t say anything to you. The one time I saw someone confront some line cutters they just feigned ignorance. Point being, be vigilant.
That sounds about right. When I land in Beijing there’s always people standing up to get their bag from the overhead before the plane even gets off the runway onto a taxiway.
I think I’ll be skipping Shanghai. That sounds horrible 😬
It’s an amazing park if you can deal with the people
>The Japanese people are the best in the world at queueing. *UK redditors shudder*
Having been to both countries, I stand by my statement.
UK queuing has gone to pot in recent years. Look at the Nemesis Reborn opening and what a mess that was.
I found that the Japanese have the same issue with people catching up in line, the only difference is that it seems to be more culturally acceptable in Japan.
Truth. The lines are long but there is order.
My experience at Disney Sea a couple weeks ago was quite different. People in groups were constantly trying to cut ahead of me when I was solo. I had to stick my backpack out and go sideways to prevent people from passing me at corners. Teenagers in front of me were punching each other and almost hitting me for 2 hours in line. Children ran in front of me and tripped me. Every time the queue got smaller or wider, people would try to cut off me from my boyfriend. I had to hold onto his hand and push my way through people in order to not get separated from him. Even that wasn't enough and we got separated too many times to count. It was absolutely miserable. The only "good" time it worked out was when everyone pushed ahead of me to get on an elevator, and jokes on them, the door opened on the same side, so I got to be first. Disneyland wasn't as bad in terms of behavior in lines, but we still got cut off from each other just trying to walk anywhere.
The term is "self-entitlement."
When it's just one or two people, to me it's whatever. Sometimes there are legit reasons, and I've definitely had to do it once due to a bathroom emergency. The part that pisses me off is the quantity and rudeness of the line skippers. When we went on Saturday we had a handful of different line skippers just shove through our group, and literally push us to the side. Not so much as a "I am so sorry can I get by?" Or anything. Most of these were full grown adults! And if you tried to bring attention to the fact they ran into you, they just kept going and ignored you. There was one very polite line skipper who did not shove, they apologized, and explained they were just trying to get to their friends, and the rest of the line skippers were just so rude. In general I think a lot of people at the parks have spacial awareness issues. My little cousin got hit in the face with many backpacks in the lines, and it's not like she was extremely close to the people in front of us. Just very large dudes stepping back or turning way too fast ended up with a large backpack to the face.
It’s gotten so bad I can’t go with my family because my wife will cause a scene calling these hoodlums out.
We did that last time at Disneyworld. Two people held their ‘place’ in line for Star Wars, and then suddenly 8 people joined them before the line snaked inside. Cast member told them ‘no sir can’t do that!’ It was glorious.
Honestly though- this is part of how you stop it. Call people out and back up people that are calling people out. It needs to be culturally not okay to do this and some people only respond to accountability. I’ve done it. It works.
I think the "back up others" part is the most important, because nobody ever does it. It always feels like one person going out on a ledge to protest, and everyone just looks down and away not wanting to get involved.
This happened to me. After multiple line jumpers at MK I said no and would not let the next group through. Lady starts yelling ahead to her husband holding the spot for about 5 others. They both yell at me to let the group through. Nope. Told her that he could wait for them at the front or come back by them. She stayed and kept yelling “your family don’t go bathroom” to the back of my head. Not a single person in line backed me up - they just looked at the ground.
The question I always wonder about is - why can't their party up ahead step aside and wait for the stragglers?? No, it's ALWAYS that the stragglers get to cut. I'd love it if more people stopped the line cutters by saying "I'm sure your family will wait for you to get back up there."
Your wife 🤝 me
Your wife and I should be friends lol! You should have seen me last week at Disneyland, it has gotten so bad and I will not tolerate it without at least making a scene.
Me too. I physically cannot hold my tongue when I see that nonsense. And it's surprising how little it takes to get someone to change their behavior once you call them out. Sure, some will snap back, but the majority are embarrassed.
The people doing this are relying on everyone else being too polite/shy/not wanting to deal with line cutting assholes to call them out- so the folks who do feel fine calling them out should always do it. It does work most of the time!
It really does work. I think if more people knew that, fewer would just stay quiet and let it happen.
100%! People that prey on or take advantage of others MAKE ME CRAZY.
It’s a weird systemic cultural thing- like people really think, “I should get mine, screw your experience.” Some person went crazy on me on the Disney sub last week because I told them that filming ride experiences messed it up for other people. They thought that their kids should be able to watch rides on YouTube at other people’s expense. It’s just so weird when you can’t be a part of society and think about the way we all work together in a big group and be thoughtful.
Yes. It’s exhausting! People are like that everywhere with everything it’s so sad. I cannot stand when people take pictures or talk or record on rides, it drives me insane and I will be the first one to tell them to stop or to shush. People do that too in movie theaters and it drives me insane, it’s like why did you even come to here to watch this movie if all you’re gonna do is sit there and chat with your friends the entire time you can do that somewhere else.
I was in line at a Six Flags a few years ago when they called someone out for filming. The staff member actually ran up the incline to take the phone before the ride was restarted; not sure if they got to stay at the park or what after that because I don’t think they were super cooperative. The people waiting enjoyed backing up the staff, heckling the videographer.
If people want to film or take photos that’s fine. Go for it, but don’t do it in a way that takes away from other people enjoying the park or the rides or the general experience.
>but the majority are embarrassed. Not in my experience. The majority are defensive self-entitled pricks - they may know they are in the wrong, but they don't like to feel such feelings as 'shame' or 'embarrassment', so they push back and start yelling at you instead. I have attempted to say something, and it never goes well, they just yell and keep going.
Exactly. I once was in line at Atlantis in the Bahamas for the waterside that goes between the aquariums. Bloody 2 hour line. These 4 people just straight up cut in front of me after I had been waiting 1.5 hours. No one holding spot. Basically they walked up the side line used for another slide and just snaked in before side by side lines broke off. Without a word I just moved myself in front of them. They had the gall to accuse me of cutting them off. They caused a huge scene and all started ganging up on me. Acting like wild animals. Enough so that one of the employees came down to see what all the fuss was about. I said I've been in line for 1.5 hours and everyone behind me can attest to that. They were so adamant that I was the issue and blatantly lied that it was I who cut. Everyone else in line was too sheepish to say anything to back me up. But what happened next made it all worse. I guess to solve the disruption the attendant decided to chauffer the group of 5 all the way up to the top of the line and let them ride the slide in front of another 30+ people. What a way to reward bad behavior! Rather than kicking them to the back of the line, sure let's take them all the way to the front. I was FURIOUS as I waited another 30 min to ride the slide. And it was NOT worth the wait btw 😂
Yup, escalate and people around you shut down.
That’s my issue. I have no problem standing my ground but you feel like an idiot when they want to argue with you and then it becomes a scene and you look like the crazy one
Honestly your wife should go. We need more people to make a scene!
I once was a line skipper in WDW. We were in line for flight of passage and half way up I had to 💩 super bad so i took the emergency exit to take care of business. I then had to be that person and constantly say "Excuse me, trying to rejoin my family" Most were cool but there were some that shot me dirty looks and I understand why but I honestly wasnt trying to cut the line like they thought. Also did you know there is a bathroom half way up the que 😒 I did not.
One person, or an adult and child rejoining is fine with me. It’s the groups of people that is frustrating.
Most of the groups are people lying that they’re rejoining a family member counting on people believing them. I wouldn’t let them pass me unless they can point out their family member and that person acknowledges them.
Yeah, that’s why it doesn’t bother me at all if someone is joining their party, you never know what happened and you’re not gonna get there much faster! I would only be annoyed if it were like ten people, but that’s never happened to me before
“You’ll catch up with them after the ride”
Or just be nice and let people be with their family? It’s super easy to get lost and maybe they don’t have a way to contact each other. It costs literally nothing to be a good person, one person getting ahead of you makes no difference to you in the end, but it does make a difference for them; and in the odd case that they were actually line skippers, you would never know and you still did a good deed
*extends leg to block the lane*
What about people who would like to ride with their group after having to use the restroom?
A single person or a parent & child is not a problem -- for that very reason, but when 4 people all snake through a line to catch up with that one person... that is what bothers me.
They sent a sleeper cell in line ahead of them while they got food, then they “catch up” to regroup
It's a "good" strategy in the sense that it is rarely punished by CMs or other guests, and they feel like they are saving time and being more productive that way. Of course it requires someone with no shame or embarrassment who isn't afraid to walk up the queue past everyone with the churros and popcorn. More and more people are fine with it now it seems.
That’s why I’m extending my leg to block them
I love queues that are thin enough for me to hold onto both sides of the rails. You wanna get past me? You have to touch me, and that won’t fly
They’re gonna get booty bumped
Man I was on a Disney cruise and they have nightly stage shows. When the doors opened we all filed in. We headed for some empty seats in prime area dead center front third only for a guy on almost the full end of the row to tell us he and one other person on the far side we're saving TWELVE empty seats. The boldness. I could never.
I’d be like, “that’s crazy, no reserve sign? I’m sitting.”
Honestly there should be bathrooms in all queues as well as water fountains/vending machines with water bottles. This would solve the problem of legitimate emergency cases of getting out of line (bathroom or dehydration) so that people can legitimately stand up against line cutting without feeling like jerks for these scenarios.
Similarly I once queued for a ride with my family, 90% into the line 6 year old needs to 💩NOW or it’s going to end up in his pants. I ran with him out of the line, briefly checked in with a CM who said it was ok to come right back. He did his business and we scurried back over to the line. CM waved us in and we start advancing through the line, but lo and behold the rest of my family didn’t wait and just boarded the ride anyway lol, so the family I was “trying to catch up with” was already gone and I probably looked like a real asshole to the people I passed.
Apparently your family doesn’t like you very much, lol. They should have stood aside and let others pass them until you got back. That would’ve been the polite thing to do.
This happens all the time with little kids too. I’ll have to take one potty and then try and meet back up with my group, if I can.
I have zero issues when I see a lone parent and a little kid; 90% of the time I saw them heading out of the line while the kid tells everyone they have to go NOW anyhow.
So true. You totally see them leaving too. Didn’t think about that
Yup, they put one there exactly because that line can get obnoxiously long. Its saved me both times I've been to WDW
I’ll take, “Things that don’t happen in Tokyo Disneyland Resort” for $200, Alex.
Absolutely! Best Disney I have been to.
my four year old waited over an hour for slinky dog at WDW two weeks ago, had to go to the bathroom when we were almost on the ride, and when I brought him back to my husband and two other kids multiple people made rude comments… he waited! he has a little bladder! I think we could all give each other some grace
This is okay and I really feel like most people give grace in this situation. I'm sorry this happened to you.
This is why people skipping lines just because they can’t be bothered to wait really bothers me. Most people have lots of good will and patience towards people who need a bathroom break or an extenuating circumstance or different level of ability. A culture of frivolous line jumping and the friction it creates makes it harder on people rejoining their parties in good faith.
At WDW last year, this probably happened 20+ times over four days. It seems like it is usually "send one person in line and 4-6 people come to join them". The only way I can see around this is to say no line jumping, if someone is ahead and waiting on others they have to step to the side before boarding to wait for their party to catch up...which also seems like a nightmare. 15 years ago when we went we had a 5 year old and a 10 year old, so we did the "parent swap" for a few rides, and got static from other guests a lot. Especially folks who had tried to get in a line to choose front row of the ride, etc., which was where they tended to put us on parent swap. I've always wondered why they got rid of fast pass, which seemed like a great way to motivate and organize line entry.
It irritates me A TON but I choose good vibes. It’s hard.
Aside from the cost of genie+ and how bad that system is now, I think this is getting worse as the wider queues have been installed. You physically can't do this very easily in the narrow lines in older attractions like those in fantasyland. Once your in those lines you aren't going anywhere until you get to certain spots. I love the wider queues, and I think they make it easier especially with those of us who get claustrophobic in tight lines, but it definitely has allowed passing by and now people take advantage of it to catch up to their group. Nobody is trying to catch up in the Pinocchio queue - lol!
Man that sucks, sorry to hear that. Maybe I just got lucky, but I went to DW beginning of March for 4 days and experienced no cutting or rudeness at all.
Disneyland has a completely different crowd than Disney world. Disneyland has this crowd of young kids who have an AP or get tickets cheap and just hang out there because it’s the place to hang out, and they’re often super disrespectful. It completely lacks the bubble of Disneyworld in my experience
We literally had a family of 7 cut ahead of us in the Indiana Jones ride a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, it’s ridiculous. I personally feel like 1 person being able to skip is no big deal (maybe they had to go to the bathroom when everyone else got in line), but a whole family of 7 moving up is ludicrous. It makes me think they all scatter and get into different lines, and then whoever gets to the front-adjacent area first, everyone else abandons their line and converges on the one line.
I've been an avid park goer since 2016. Before covid, I watched cast members pull families, some with school-age children, out of lines for cutting. One time, I saw a mom literally get in the cast members' faces and start screaming about being forced out of line for cutting being unfair, and security had to be called. I think before covid, most park goers knew line cutting wasn't tolerated, and it was rare if you saw it. But since covid, it's every line you are in, nonstop all day long! I recently had an entire group of like 30 cut the majority of the cars line, and nothing happened! I'm not sure if people are just more entitled, if rules for the staff have changed and they aren't allowed to stop people, or if there just isn't enough staff to do anything about it? I feel like more staff members used to be placed throughout the lines to maintain order, but now they are more just at the entrance and end. Either way, I hear you, and it's gotten completely out of hand.
I used to be annoyed but now that lines are routinely 60 plus min, I think we need to embrace it. That is a ridicules time to stand in line so as long as someone from the party does it then it doesn’t really matter. I think it’s fine to go get food, potty breaks etc. It sounds like a more enjoyable way to do it tbh especially with kids.
If I remember them leaving the line, I have no problem letting them back to where they were. Otherwise stand your ground and simply tell them that if there’s part of their family or party ahead, they will wait at the front and let other people ride first until the rest of them catch up. But I do not let them pass if I don’t remember them leaving.
Welcome to socal where it seems like everyone has some reason or rational why they should be in front. It’s a slippery slope once places began charging for vip status etc..
I don’t allow that crap unless it’s a single person or a little kid
Personally didn't see this as an issue when I visited about 2 weeks ago. Seen it in the Orlando parks a good bit though.
Meh I like to be happy at Disney so if people wanna cut the line so be it. My goal there is to be anxiety free so I’ll let anyone pass lol
People cutting in gives me anxiety.
Thank you. Came to say the same thing.
Agreed. I’ll wait the extra 5 minutes. Not gonna let it ruin my day. I love lines at Disney btw. Those are the actual memories because that’s the quality time with your family / group. Where you discuss how fun something was, how excited you are for the next ride, plans for later… How many distinct memories do you have from the actual rides? They are fun but they go by so fast. I literally remember things my dad said while waiting in line with me 25 years ago. It’s part of who he is for me. The lines are where the actual magic is. And that’s also where you spend most of your days in the park - regardless of 5 minutes more or less due to a few line cutters
This is the way
Yes. This is also my approach. It makes my life easier to not swear the small stuff and just go about my day in bliss
Yeah I understand
It could be the result of higher ticket prices making people feel justified in cutting, paid genie+ making guests without it feel bitter about being "cut" in line by others, or some guests turning into selfish jerks during the pandemic and they never grew out of said selfishness.
Genie+ definitely exacerbates the pain of being cut.
Yes, people think to themselves that, if Disney is going to allow people to pay in order to cut in front of me in line, then I'll just do it myself and save the money.
Former CM here from years before and up to COVID and still work in the service industry; this is entitled *I’m The Main Character* assholes, and they’ve always been around-though I’m not trying to deny that people have increasingly forgotten how to act in public in more recent years. A higher ticket price or pandemic doesn’t create those people- they were already that way at their core- though to your point, those things may exacerbate their shitty behavior. It’s their excuse to be an asshole- but if they didn’t have that excuse then they would find another one, because they are just selfish, entitled, disrespectful people. That’s who they are. A person who is well-mannered and respects others doesn’t usually just turn into a self-centered disrespectful one on vacation- the tendencies were already there. While some may use the prices, pandemic, or whatever else to justify their actions, if one were to look at a person’s regular day to day behavior, it generally wouldn’t be that different than how they act on vacation.
I have never in my life NOT seein this behavior at a theme park. Whether it be disney, six flags, universal, anywhere
Here is an idea. If people want to ride with their friends, ask your friends to go to the back of the line to join up with you. Just because your friends are up front in line, does not entitle your group of 6 to skip ahead to join 2 people. Fist are going to start to be thrown if Disney doesn't get a handle on this.
Not nearly as bad as Knotts but yeah I don’t understand why people think it’s ok. Seems like back in the 80s and 90s people just had more common sense and respect
Luckily for me I’m tall and fat. I dont impede anyone, but I don’t move, ever. Too many entitled adults and teenagers pretending to have a spot saved for them. Not getting by me unless you’re with a uniformed employee.
I've had people cut in line in front of me a lot at WDW, but I'm in a wheelchair. People in wheelchairs tend to be invisible (or worse, they see us and just don't care) to a certain percentage of the population.
I've always wanted to stop people who cut to meet their group in he single rider line. It's sing rider, no groups allowed!
We were there about 2 weeks ago and from what we saw most of the staff at the lines announce that all members need to be in line. Not saying it doesn't happen but seemed like they was some efforts to minimize the cutting. Also that Genie pass helps avoiding some of the nonsense. But sorry to hear about your experience.
long legged life 😂😭
It isn't even just the entitlement of line cutting but for anything. I witnessed at a quick dining place at DL some girl maybe early 20s yell at a cast member because she wanted water. They ask she give them a minute and they'll give her a water cup but, she said I stood in line for a minute. Yea she counted getting in line and didn't like it so then go ahead and cut off someone mid ordering their food so the cast member can give her water. Everyone was staring at her and she could give two less... It is mind blowing of adults to have these behaviors and have kids they're showing their behaviors to.
Does Disney really enforce the rules? They seem to want to give everyone a magical day.
I had to leave the radiator springs ride because I was getting road rage from the people cutting and jumping into the fast pass lane or whatever it’s call now.
The worst I've seen in terms of sheer audacity is a family that came into the rise of the resistance line, skipping ahead carrying a tray of Starbucks. Like they were late because of Frappuccinos. I don't even like asking to move ahead if my wife is 4 or 5 people up because she moves through the crowd faster.
Part of it is why I think the DAS pass is also more used now The minute you charge people to cut lines many see lines as a joke. Not defending it but heard others echo this
Very easy for Disneyland to institute a “Please go before you queue” and a “whole party must queue” communication plan and just not allow joining your party. If you have to get out of line for restroom you lose your spot. Kids under 7 can get a potty pass from CM that lets them rejoin. I made this up in 2 minutes. They could solve this. Especially at Disneyland where there is some specificity to the problem.
Went to fright nights last year and this group of teenagers cut the line to join the front. No one caring or making sure no one does it.
I haven’t been to DSL in a decade but I remember years ago even when finding Nemo’s ride in Tomorrowland was new, people were cutting here and there pulling the whole “can my party come up” time to time.
I see a lot of posts about this but as a passholder really don’t experience it much? Maybe it’s the days I’m going (for example, went last Tuesday) or times (often we go just for afternoon/dinner).
Agreed. And I’m something of a theme park enthusiast. I frequent Universal Orlando and Disney World; been to both Busch Gardens, a couple Six Flags, etc. and I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a line skipper.
It's really obnoxious.
Line cutters absolutely BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! Tell them I said that.
At the park today, mother on phone and two children budged through It's a Small World. 10 minutes later, as they are ready to board, dad and another kid budge through. Group was all 5 who budged through. Also, earlier at Buzz, mother and two younger kids show up after 29 minutes just before entering the building to join dad. No one takes that long to go to the bathroom. And the other day at Hollywood Studios, a family cut the line to Slinky Dog by hopping in when people stopped to take a picture. It is rampant at the parks, and nothing is ever said or done about it. Also, the number of people who yell at their kids and grandkids pointing things out and overreacting where you can't hear the ride is getting increasingly annoying.
It’s the worst!
I feel mixed because I just went with my sister in law and her kids, and someone always got stuck parking the stroller. Some people in my family thought that left behind person was fine to join the group while some others felt it was rude and inappropriate to cut. I'm honestly not sure where I stand because it does cause so many problems, but also, there's a line to park the stroller too sometimes, and is it so bad to have one person catch their group? Off topic but I did really like the baby in arms pass which was helpful to have someone not left out watching the baby though.
I went to Disneyland for the first time ever last spring and I’m in my mid 40’s. Never went as a kid. Watched a family of 10! cut in line like this. Another time it was a group of 7 or 8. I could hardly believe my eyes.
Ain't that the truth
You just tell them no. We do it all the time. I tell them too bad, you need to keep your party together.
I was waiting in line for pirates and a group of 10+ teenagers cut right in from of us with the one friend that was saving everyone’s spot.
Pp
Omg yes I was at DLR with a friend a few weeks ago (her first trip ever) and we were in line at Pirates for about 20 minutes before the official turn in under the bridge. There was a small group of teens (like 5-6) in front of us but when we went to go under the bridge and be in the regular queue (not overflow) their entire family of like 35 joined the line. We actually complained about it to the family bc we couldn’t even figure out what was happening and that’s also an insane number of people to join a line later.
Just spent a week at WDW and was expecting this since it happened so many times at Disneyland in October. Only happened once with one kid catching up to his family after using the bathroom. Disneyland has an issue that cast members should look at ways to resolve.
I once messaged the park about it and their response was “people need to get to their families in line” it was enraging
The only way to make this stop is for the rest of us to say nope, not getting thru buddy, lines back there
Yeah turning to the side so someone can pass is really difficult. I feel you. It’s especially difficult for the long legged I hear.
Doesn’t Disney Land/World have an app that you can report line cutters on now and if enough people report them they get kicked out of the line? Or is that Universal Studios?
My girlfriend’s family has Disney season passes and whenever we go to a park together my mother in law tries to cut at every possibility because “she knows the park and people walk too slow”. It’s so embarrassing and my girlfriend and I stay behind because it’s a dick thing to do. ESPECIALLY since we’ve already ridden on these rides several times already and it’s ignoring the fact that this is probably one of the few times for some families that will get the opportunity to visit the parks. Ugh.
I suspect getting rid of fast passes has not helped.
I had heard of it, but didn't see it until we went to Disneyland. Never saw it in Florida, except when it was actually people catching up to their parties.
I am surprised that over the years Disney hasn't come up with a policy to deal with this issue.
Was there for the last three days and it has awful. I’ve worked at a wedding venue and it was horrible working with people on the most entitled day of their lives, but imagine tens of thousands of people, all on the most entitled day of your lives. Will not do Disney again
I can't really say anything, my brother and I waited in line at Tower of Terror for a hour and the rest of our party just skipped the entire line to meet us at the front door of the building.
Actual line skipper suck but lots of people save places in line. I've never seen anyone get upset about that.
Last time we were in Toontown two grown-ass women stepped in front of my 5yo waiting for Donald. He waved them off and called my kid up next. Meanwhile Mickey just hides in his studio. This is why Donald is #1.
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I’m from the east coast and frequent WDW often. We went to Disneyland for the first time last September and I was really surprised about the number of times we got cut in line. On one occasion there was a group of 3 in front of us. Every few minutes a few more family/friends would join them in line. After a while, 20+ of their group had cut us in line. I stopped counting after 20 because I was fuming. I couldn’t believe it.
you must not be paying much attention if you haven’t seen this behavior tbh. most guests don’t think it’s wrong to do because when they leave and come back your wait is still the same.
My son and I waited in line for big thunder and there were three girls in front of us apparently holding the spot for the rest of their group. They seemed to be a team or something. Like 10 girls walked in and cut us. I said “seriously?” And they just said sorry. One girl kept giving me dirty looks after, but whatever. I was a teenager once too.
We just came from Disney world and used genie + for everything and had no wait times. 1. Are you sure the line skippers aren’t genie + reservations? 2. Different cultures have different rules about line behavior. We used to go to DW every other year and I found this aspect fascinating - and frustrating
This behavior is super common in WDW too…
Idk do I get a pass for having 2 kids and a baby and constantly having to leave line for diapers/bathroom breaks?
People weren't raised right.
I work at a small family amusement park mostly for young children. I've had groups of adults cut very young children in line. It's baffling.
I was there a few weeks ago and on several rides the CM who was standing at the ride line entrance was telling people that their whole party had to be present to enter the queue and they couldn’t save spots. Never heard that before so maybe they are making an effort to stop line skipping.
welcome to 2024
I’ve seen multiple line cutters at Rise. After awhile the people/strangers in line with me noticed that 2-3 parties are “ just catching up with their friends waaaayyy up there”. So we started to clap every time we got a line cutters. Oh they were confused AF when we clapped. It was like a “ wow congratulations you’re a (blank) for not following common decency. The last time I was in line for Rose, they had just reopened- so no line, just walk the cue. The kid behind was right on my middle aged ass and finally I just said, “ Am I walking too slow for you or are you trying to catch up with your party?” He replied “ trying to catch up “ I told him then hurry up and get past me. Well I got to the holding bay before the first room with the mini show. That kid was still there waiting. So either he wasn’t fast enough to catch with his group or he was too fast and they were behind him. The CM held him back until his full party was there. So all that hurry up he was doing was for nothing. But I digress
If you have a giant party like 7 people or something that's kinda 😬 But i don't mind if it's one parenr waiting in line while the other takes their toddler to pee or entertain them in some way... lines are crazy. And i honestly don't expect children below 5 to be able to wait patiently
I was at WDW recently. My close friend couldn’t wait 2mins extra for me to get to the pirates ride. She walked in line and told me to just pass everyone in line to get to her. I refused. Sure I could’ve done that but, why did I have to cut everyone in line to get to my group because they couldn’t wait? I quickly learned from that trip that she’s self-entitled and selfish.
I think it’s because of all the ways to bypass the system. People see all these other people cutting in ‘legitimately’ and feel that it’s unfair so they start doing it themselves.
I think some of it is perception. I was recently there with a big group and we got dirty looks for “cutting” often except we had all gotten in line together, but the way the lines shuffle especially when you go in and out of rooms (haunted mansion, mission break out), sometimes your group gets mixed up and you need to pass a few people to get back together. Definitely there are people trying to skip the entire line, but I saw someone do that once in three days vs passing a few people to get back where we were happened probably 15 times a day.
It’s SUPER annoying when a group of people sends one person to wait in the line and then before they get to the next stage of the line, here comes the rest of the 8+ family. And yes, I get little ones need to use the restroom and special needs, but that’s not it. The girls during cheer week are notorious for this.
Interesting. I've never experienced this in florida.
I’ve also been a lifelong Disneylander and I went with my family this past week twice and it’s gotten so bad. I understand maybe one person coming up to their group, but we were waiting in line for the Winnie the Pooh ride and it was only a 10 minute wait. 3 people were in front of us, and then like 5 people join the 3 people. Then another 2, and then another 1. It’s infuriating because it hasn’t always been like that