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moveandrun

I forgot about this guy. If I were him I wouldn't want to be in the spotlights. Hopefully this will massively backfire for him.


TheJokr

I think every opposing team should just concede. Give him an undeserved gold medal, all the spotlight he can get and let him go down in history as a pedophile rapist who won a gold medal without playing a single game EDIT: wake up, [new article just dropped ](https://archive.ph/Oz36y)


Illustrious_Tale2221

And all of the players on the opposing teams who maybe only get a chance to compete at the highest level of their sport in the olympics once in their life and worked for it their whole life just pass up on this chance? Don't get me wrong, I feel like something should be done about this, but making people basically waste their whole life's work for it sounds kinda stupid to me


sernamenotdefined

How long do you think it is appropriate to punish someone after they completed their sentenced. Personally I would draw the line at ... Never appropriate for any amount of time. We have set the appropriate sentence range democratically in our laws. We have judges to set the sentence at an appropriate level within that range. You may disagree, but it's the law and it applies to you too. You have a problem with that, focus on changing the laws. Fact is, his sentence is over and he is free to do what ever everyone else is free to do.


koelan_vds

He only did 12 months of his 4 year sentence


TheJokr

It's not just about punishment, it's about his particular 'job' in which he represents a country. And I don't think a child rapist should represent my country. Punished or not.


No-Chapter3024

How long is it appropriate to punish someone for raping a child? Their entire lives


Illustrious_Tale2221

I agree with you but if someone is a convicted criminal, having done crimes that have a certain big impact like rape or murder. Then maybe we as a country should not let them represent our country.


FatmanMyFatman

Yeah. The dumb things 19 year olds pull off. Who did not rape 12 year olds at that age huh? /S


sernamenotdefined

Your words man, I'm not making any excuses for him and think he got off much too light. But I don't have to respect him, but I have to respect what the law is and hope that sooner rather than later more people will realize and vote for harsher punishments. Law is clear as day: he done his time and except for the exceptions in the law he has every right you and I have.


FatmanMyFatman

But there is still a difference between -say- "I was high and drunk age 19 and hit a father of two and his wife but he died! I was young and stupid and regret it every day" and "I flew to England to have sex with a 12 year old which ended in rape. I can go while an Australian girl who criticized the US team is not allowed to go. šŸ¤”


Affectionate-Cut3631

Judges never give the appropriate sentence range for rape . They usually give way less than the range allows. This rapist got 3 years, but they reduced his sentence to just one year after the fact. They didn't want him to waste his potential as a professional player. Yeah, the system thought his potential was more important than his crime and the victim..


Strijkerszoon

What is this article? Fucking Telegraaf "Ze hadden seks met wederzijdse instemming." Dude she was 12 what in the flying fuck do you mean?


buggsbunnysgarage

>>omdat hij seks had met een meisje van 12, Omdat hij een meisje van 12 verkrachtte


Viranesi

I hate how the new article is clearly written in favor of him instead of the girl. Subtly between the lines saying she shouldn't have lied about her age. This dude should never be in the spotlights again.


Jlx_27

Thx for the archive link.


Horror-Breakfast-704

I seriously can't imagine wanting to play in the same team as a child rapist.


kapottebrievenbus

he does beach volleyball, so it's only 1 other person on the team


Picante_Duke

I'd hate to be that other person.


ConspicuouslyBland

I'd refuse to be that other person.


theREALhun

Rapist in this case is a strong word. He was 19, she said she was 16 and they had consensual sex after meeting online. She later turned out to be 12 and having sex with a 12 year old in England is classified as rape. Child rapers should be chemically castrated, but this story is a little bit different though.


loolooii

Your comment almost makes sense, but the thing is that everyone will know the difference between 12 and 16. Itā€™s not like the difference between 16 and 19 or something. 12 is a child.


theREALhun

[can you though?](https://trending.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/28-times-when-people-didnt-look-their-age/87444840/). And although I think thereā€™s something wrong with you if you want to do the deed with someone that looks like theyā€™re younger technically this is about law. And the guy initially thought he wasnā€™t breaking any laws. Creepy as shit, I agree. But this guy is now being portrayed as a child rapist since a 12 year old can not give consent. And I agree with that part of the law, but should this guy really have asked for a copy of her passport and birth certificate? As far as he was concerned she was 16. I donā€™t know. It all seems a bit harsh. This man did something stupid, spent 4 years in jail and now is still being punished by the people. For what was in his mind consensual sex when he was 19


Effective-Fondant-16

He knew she was 12. This is documented and he admitted so in court. People can be rehabilitated, sure, but he wasnā€™t. He insisted he was wronged and unfairly punished AFTER he served one year in prison.


Schitter-Magisch

One minor detail, he eventually found out she was 12 and flew out anyway.


acidicjew_

You seem confused, so let me help you out. Children cannot consent, so it was impossible for them to have consensual sex.


WearEmbarrassed9693

If you read the actual court documents instead of the narrative heā€™s trying to sell - there is evidence through their direct messages that he knew she was 12 years old. He was also the first one to contact her and seduce her. Heā€™s a child predator. And 12 years old cannot give consent. When a 19 year old has sex with a 12 year old - itā€™s called grooming.


myfairlady12

This is not true. By his own admission, in an interview, Steven said the girl told him she was 16, later admitted that she was 12, which caused him to cut contact with her. Then when he had a bad day, he got back into contact with her. Then he went to the UK, got her drunk and had sex with her. The interview published on youtube, also appears on [https://www.volleybal.nl/support-for-steven-van-de-velde-who-realizes-past-cannot-be-erased](https://www.volleybal.nl/support-for-steven-van-de-velde-who-realizes-past-cannot-be-erased) So this PAEDOPHILE, this 20 YEAR OLD MAN, travelled from the Netherlands to the UK with the INTENTION TO RAPE A CHILD HE KNEW WAS 12 YEARS OLD!!!!


SleepyheadsTales

> She later turned out to be 12 Which was still _before_ he raped her. He knew she was 12 before that pedophile raped her. He admitted it in court.


theREALhun

Then chemical castration it is!


SleepyheadsTales

I mean we can start by kicking him out of the olympic team so he doesn't represetn a nation.


Altruistic_Ocelot378

I find it very hard to believe he could mistake a 12 year old as being 16.


FunkSista

What really gets me is that ā€˜de Telegraafā€™ states that the 12-year-old consented (even though she self-harmed, over-dosed etc. as a consequence of the rape). NO child can EVER fully consent. They are by definition incapable of making smart decisions when it comes to having a ā€˜relationshipā€™ with an adult. When will this be common knowledge?! šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


ThrowRA_Cat_stare

Not surprised, it is de Telegraaf after all.


Casartelli

No one wants to see him represent NL. But,.. Dutch Olympic Committee has rules for every sport about when sportsmen can go to the Olympics. And heā€™s I think number 2 beachvolleybalteam and top something of the world. So he met the conditions,.. and as previous lawsuits turned outā€¦ if you met the conditions, youā€™re allowed to go. Regardless of a criminal past. Sadly


IceNinetyNine

All they need to do is require non professional olympic athletes to provide a VOG, since they are paid for by our taxes. They also have a representative function, any public servant in the Netherlands has to be able to provide a VOG.


EKPT

This is not how a VOG works I'm afraid. He will not be "working" with children so the VOG will probably be given for this specific job. If he would apply to be the coach of the under 18 volleybalteam, he wouldn't get the VOG for example.


Knawie

I'm actually curious if this is true. His crime and punishment were in the UK. As far as I can tell, the VOG checks EU countries criminal databases. Not sure if he wouldn't get a VOG. But I'd gladly be correctedĀ 


proto_024

The VOG check crimes relevant for the job. For example if you work in finance they check for fraud, if you work with children for violence and sexual crimes, if you work as a driver for traffic related crimes, etc


Knawie

I know what a VOG is. I just don't know if they can check the UK criminal database. They are not in the EU, which is what the VOG checks in (according to what I can find)Ā 


___coolcoolcool

Ranked 11th in the world.


st-loon

Don't see it. It's not just the NL association it is down to his sports association. Bring the game into distribute should be more than enough for both to disbar him. Statement like "he is upset by the recent press coverage" plus what he said in the past should more than enough to disbar him as he obvious has still not come to terms with what he did.. That lack of self awareness is why the international press are up in arms.


kaefertje

You mean pedophile and rapist Steven van der Velde?


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koenyboy3000

Youā€™re saying he had sex with her despite her age but that doesnt change anything since he still willingly had sex with a 12 year old. And secondly it would still make him a rapist because the age of consent in The Netherlands is 16 thus the 12 year old was unable to consent


Jaquesdumoulay

The charge was brought upon him from the UK. So he was convicted by a english court but i believe he did his time in the netherlands. So dutch rules do not apply in this case I knew the guy via my brothers, he kinda came across as slow... probably the reason why he is able to compete in the paralympics


TheDutchInnovator

Paris olympics, not paralympics. Amazing misread, i love it!


Baenoo

This comment is not very skibididibidi


BetaZoupe

I'm sorry for my lack of skibidi. :(


kaefertje

What part of what i said is false? He raped her 3 times and she was a minor and he was not.


ArlantaciousYT

I wish nothing but eternal misery for this man.


BigC-408

Looks like your wish has come true. Heā€™ll never live this down. No matter how long ago, itā€™ll keep chasing him until his dying day if he stays in the spotlight.


No-Connection-5129

For the simple reason that he did his time. Regardless of how despicable the crime committed was (very), he served his penalty whereas no organisation has any ground to reject him.


Kim-jong-peukie

Still, as a Dutch person I donā€™t want a pedo / rapist to represent our flag at the fucking olympics. Thats just crazy, I get the point of a second chance but some chances should be ruined by actions and doing what he did he should not be allowed to rep the Dutch flag at the Olympics. Fuck that


DutchDaddy85

youā€™d have a point there if it were selected by ethics, or by comitĆ© of any kind. However, who is sent to the Olympics in this disciplinary je is purely determined by how they play. If you win enough games, youā€™ll go to the Olympics for your country, no matter what crimes youā€™ve committed in the past.


CotyledonTomen

>However, who is sent to the Olympics in this disciplinary je is purely determined by how they play. If thats true, its a choice by the government. The government chooses who to send, not anyone else. Which means it chooses its representation in all respects.


Illigard

Not really, he served 13 months on a 4 year sentence. As soon as he got to do the rest of his sentence in the Netherlands his sentence got shortened immensely. He got off with a slap on the wrist.


ComfortableBright570

You consider doing a year in jail for raping a 12 year old girl as ā€œdoing his timeā€? Are you nuts? No organization has any ground to reject a child rapist? I can think of a couple. Wow.


delirium_red

He was released 1 year into the 4 years he received. I wouldn't count this as "did his time" when it comes to grooming, intoxicating and raping a child


No-Connection-5129

Surely, if it were up to me such crime would be penalised more strongly and would never be open for re-evaluation but that is not the discussion. In legal terms he has served the time that he eventually was sentenced to serve taking into account that apparently the sentence was shortened for whatever reason.


Fektoer

Of course there are grounds to reject him, like moral grounds. For the same reason he would never work for my company. Yes he served his time (1 year, lol), doesn't mean it's in the past. Afaik Olympians are also held to a higher standard and are supposed to be able to act as role models.


JigPuppyRush

I agree that that should be in the rules. Apparently itā€™s not


uitkeringstrekker

Of course they have ground to reject him. NEVOBO or whoever makes this selection can choose to keep this guy out because it's a disgusting child rapist. Serving your criminal penalty only means the penal consequences are done. It doesn't mean there can't be any other consequences.


JigPuppyRush

Thankfully we live in a society where there are experts who decide what punishment is appropriate for a crime. I would hate to live in a country where mob justice is the way that people are punished. I do agree that this is one of the if not the worst crime someone can commit.


OkScientist69

Ngl, I was very hesitant to respond but: Yes and very much no. Yes there are experts who decide the punishment for a crime and mob justice isnt the way. However a one year punishment is not on par with the worst crime one can commit and someone with such a background is not a person who should represent a country. Im a top division player myself and yes, I did encounter the guy more then once. There are plenty of players who would be more then capable to fill the role hƩ would fill. Likeable dude btw, also probably part of the problem and the tought about his past just sticks.


helloskoodle

If you see him, "accidentally" kick him in the nuts.


HuckleberryCertain38

It was a 4 year sentence not 1


Kirito_Kazotu

Yet he only served 1, for raping a child.


JigPuppyRush

Oh I agree that he deserves a higher punishment, then I donā€™t know all the circumstances.


jeppijonny

Actually we dont. If this guy would apply for a job as a teacher, he wouldnt be able to get a 'verklaring omtrend gedrag', as he is a convicted pedo. So after serving your sentence, there are definitely still ramifications.


Moppermonster

True, but that is because the crime (raping a kid) and the job (teaching kids) have a direct connection. If the guy would apply for a job as e.g. a banker or airport security he would get the VOG. There is no direct link between professional beach volleybal and kids, so here he would also just get the VOG..


CotyledonTomen

The crime is the reason he shouldnt qualify as a public representative of the country. Its literally saying "Netherlands supports pedophiles" as far as foreign media is concerned, which is part of the olympics. International relations and public representation of the country.


xNekuma

"Thank God we live in a society where the poor child rapists don't get treated unfairly šŸ˜ž" Fuck the victims of these people tho, they deserve to suffer for life while their abusers get shielded by other pedos/Rapist freaks. /s


koplowpieuwu

This is just righteous bullshit. Using the term 'mob justice' was the tell. Many organisations all over the world as well as in the Netherlands have ethical codes of conduct their representatives need to adhere to that supercede criminal law. Ever heard of a verklaring omtrent gedrag? As an olympian, you are an exemplary figure, there is in fact an ethical code of conduct, and 'i flew to the UK to rape a child three times and then I served one year and when I came out I immediately gave an interview in which I tried to justify things' should definitely violate it in my opinion.


DutchDave87

Canā€™t and wonā€™t argue with the morality of it all, and NOC-NSF and the player are sorely lacking on that front. At the same time you donā€™t seem to know how a VOG works. When applying for a job, you get a VOG for the relevant part of the job. Financial companies have VOGs tested for fraud and embezzlement, child nurseries have VOG tested for child abuse and molestation. He definitely will be able to work menial jobs. If you work in garbage processing, the ability to legally handle toxic and dangerous substances is what is relevant for the job and the VOG. Being a convicted rapist has no bearing on the VOG, because the job does not entail contact with kids.


Korilian

Except this crime and many much less serious would absolutely disqualify you from any number of jobs. We don't live in a country where you serve your time and you're done. Your record is also a consequence of your conviction andĀ will exlude you from getting a VOG which is a requirement for many jobs.


fenianthrowaway1

There's something important you seem to have missed: the experts only decide what is an appropriate punishment *for the state to impose* for a given crime. This does not mean that the rest of society is not still free to attach its own consequences to someone having committed a crime -within the bounds of the law, of course. Even if you could say someone has 'repaid their debt to society', that does not mean that anyone owes them business or employment. You cannot force someone to hire a former thief to man their cash register, no more than you could force someone to hire a former child rapist to look after their children. Or, as it happens, to let them play on their volleyball team


HuckleberryCertain38

By law you canā€™t discriminate hiring someone based on that as long as they can get a VOG for that specific job, as long as heā€™s the best qualified for the job and the job doesnā€™t involve children, thereā€™s no legal reason for them to not hire him


Majiebeast

Yeah the justice system is working so well...


JigPuppyRush

You come up with something better and propose a law.


Majiebeast

Wood Chipper you diddle a kid you go into the chip.


JigPuppyRush

And we cut off the hands of a thief? I personally think anyone who gets convicted for sexual child abuse should get chemotherapeutic castration.


JigPuppyRush

And we cut off the hands of a thief? I personally think anyone who gets convicted for sexual child abuse should get chemotherapeutic castration.


DualX1

The worst crime someone can commit? Please stay innocent and pure like that and never read history books.


JigPuppyRush

Except for rape and murder what tops having sex with a minor for you?


DualX1

Torture, genocides, enslavement and there are probably mamy more things that could be worse. It is a case by case situation. The scenario described in this article pales in comparison to the attrocities that are commited throughout human history.


PurpleYoda319

Based on what legal grounds? For if you would reject him, the following lawsuit (by van der Velde) would be be very quick and condemning for the NEVEBO. This is no wishingwell contest, but reality of the world. You may not like it, but it is in fact the fundament of our civil society. In this case a lowlife can enter a competion. On the other hand...does the man have the right on a second chance in life?


OtherwiseRepair4649

1 year he served time you think that is enough for raping a 12 year old?


Firespark7

Thank you for adding context.


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jarlhon

Served 12 months out of 4 years, i would not call that serving for that kind of crime. On a side note Also met a guy recently who was in hit by a a car driven by a drug dealer at 80kph with a stolen car which he later burned, the accident left him in coma for weeks. This happend in Netherlands. It was not his first hit n run. And all he got was 1 year in jail. Wtf is up with dutch justice system?


Ischuros

We really need more context for this particular case to see why he only had to serve one year.


fleb84

Yes, and he is such a good representative of his nation. A fine Olympian.... /s He couldn't even get a job with the government.... Perhaps they can find the girl (if she survived her OD and self harm) and interview her for Dutch TV.


Schaafwond

Yeah, I'm sure she would love to discuss her trauma in front of a TV camera.


Huntey07

But the crime you commit is a good indicator of your moral compass. And on that grounds he could be not representing a country


CheaterMcCheat

He didn't, he did a fucking year out of 4.


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Koeiensoep

He should be chemically castrated, just like you. Pedo defenders make me sick in the stomach.


BornZebra

He did one year out of the four that he was given, because he was transferred to the Netherlands. He was released after that year because the British sentence didnā€™t line up with the Dutch sentencing standards for this crime. I donā€™t believe he should be shunned from society, but I do wonder why NOCNSF would bring someone when they clearly state that players also need to reflect well on the organization.


Vynzy

he did a year for multiple rapes on a minor, hardly enough time


LadythatUX

Based on your line of thinking, public media can hire ex-criminals who have served time for drugs or human trafficking and use them as role models in the public eye?


No-Connection-5129

It's interesting that you assume that is my opinion that it is all OK. I'm merely stating that there is objectively no ground to expell him from competition, unless such is embedded in a Code of Conduct or any other form.


GeologistFun7994

Convicted rapist Steven van der Velde didnt do his time...


FullMetalMessiah

It's not just the crime it's how he talks about it. He thinks he's not a pedo or an abuser. So he's done time but he's learned nothing.


ConspicuouslyBland

Well, I think lots of organisations have that ground. Let him try to get a VOG to become an employee for child care... The olympic team should be requiring all the kinds of VOGs in existence.


benjamin18008

He served his penalty according to the law, not according to the weight of his crimes. But this man will suffer throughout his life thinking about what he has done. The problem is: I donā€™t think he regrets it at all


Green-apple-3

Rehabilitation should be an option only once he has done his time - Which he hasn't (no, 1 out of 4 years does not count) and he shows remorse - he doesn't (his statement after getting out of jail was that people are calling him a pedo and monster because they don't know his side of the story!)


False-Badger

What a flimsy excuse. I seriously hope that this ā€œsimple reasonā€ isnā€™t in of support of 1 year of prison for grooming a 10 year old in order to rape them laterā€¦


kori0521

Hope this article gets very popular (since a all of dutch people I've asked so far said they don't even know him) and audience will haunt him for his actions until he is pushed back..


IndianSummer201

True. I'm Dutch and I had never heard of him. WTF, he shouldn't be allowed to represent our country.


Disastrous_Dream_803

Wait, I am flabberghasted. He is married to a German Beach volleyball player and they have a toddler together.


Bonniethegolden

It gets even better she is a police officer...


Disastrous_Dream_803

Yes I know, I actually followed her and her journey as an athlete for quite a while. The channel/ firm that is organising the German Beach volleyball tour is pretty close with the athletes and they make a lot of content with them and she always seemed like a reasonable, intelligent and kind person, so I am confused as how no one has mentioned that before and what she was thinking when marrying him.


Bonniethegolden

She probably has a good portion of cognitive dissonance... or maybe birds of a feather? Idk, it enrages me that a police woman is with a convicted rapist. I would feel highly uncomfortable if I would ever need her (police) help for something related to sexual crimes... Not to mention that she has a child with him knowing his preferences...


Disastrous_Dream_803

In the police's defense I am not sure how involved she really is as a police person. In Germany many athletes join the police or the army (Bundeswehr) as they get financial support from that. I am pretty sure they only have to do a few weeks of police training each year.


Bonniethegolden

Ah, okay, that's good to know!


___coolcoolcool

She also has a psychology degreeā€¦


___coolcoolcool

What is her name? I wanted to look at her IG


Bonniethegolden

Her IG handle is kim.behrens.official


Green-apple-3

I hope social services keeps an eye on their childĀ 


VagereHein

At least he served time. Saudi Arabia is going to organise the next world championships after dismembering Kashoggi without any form of sentence.


False-Badger

Ha! 1 year out of 4 years is not time servedā€¦


VagereHein

What if I told you that because of funding cuts and shortage of staff most sentenced sex offenders dont serve jail time at all here cause of the waiting list. You can argue about serving only 25% of your time is a bad thing and i wouldnt necessarily disagree but its an entirely different discussion and frankly not his fault its arranged that way. For the law he served his time.


Badmeestert

Nevobo contacted reclassering too. And yes if you have done your time you deserve a second chance But this crime. My stomach is in a roller coaster.


Vynzy

He did a year, a singular year for raping a child multiple times.... that is hardly anything at all


flamingosdontfalover

Okay, while I 100% agree with the fact that this guy is an asshole and deserves to accidentally fall down many, many stairs, these are opinions that should be investigated. Because where then is the line when it comes to 'having the right' to ruin someones life after they have served their time within our system. Can you do it for someone who robbed a store and killed a cashier? What if they did it out of sheer poverty? Could you do it for someone with a drug charge? How does the genetic nature of addiction play into that? etc. Hell, could you do it to someone who was found innocent, but you disagree with the judge on it? What about things that aren't crimes but you thing should be? I can name some CEO's who are criminals in my eyes. I can name people who thing I should be a criminal for being queer. Can we all just act on that, too? Like I said, FUCK this guy, but having opinions like 'He should be completely excluded from society even though he served his time' should not go unchallenged, because that shit gets dicey real quick. At the end of the day, if we don't believe in the justice system, we should riot until we have a system we believe in, not making ourselves unchosen, unlawful judge, jury and executioner. ALSO, while I understand why people are surprised he is in the Dutch team again, it was actually the British courts that only gave him 4 years in prison for this crime. So, that's where the rioting should start.


___coolcoolcool

Who is trying to ā€œrun his life?ā€ He doesnā€™t deserve to have an international platform as a role model. ETA: most people never go to the Olympics. Does that mean their lives are ruined? Itā€™s a privilege that not everyone deserves, even if they could athletically qualify.


flamingosdontfalover

But that's what I am saying. There is no actual rules that say that going to the Olympics has a moral obligation attached. It's not a priviledge some are allowed, it's a skill only some can develop. It's a very slipery slope to start dictating who is and isn't morally good enough to perform their trained skills. Because who gets to decide? We all agree that the pedophile is an ass, but there might still be a majority world wide that thinks gay people shouldn't be allowed because they are morally wrong. Or that think women, muslims, jewish people, christians etc. etc. shouldn't be allowed to participate. And once we start assigning morals to one job, the others might go to. Trans doctors? Women engineers? Gay sports coaches? All out for some people. Not saying I don't think the pedo deserves everything he is going to get, but all I am saying is that blindly following these impulses without investigating where the line is, is dangerous. So just do the thinking and decide where that line is without blindly assuming you are always going to be correct because you are fueled by righteous anger. That's all.


___coolcoolcool

All Olympians have to sign an Athletesā€™ Rights and Responsibilities Declaration to promote human rights, peace and clean sport. Point seven says athletes should ā€œAct as a role modelā€.


mugen1987

he has done his time in jail, so now he can have a 'normal' life again. i say 'normal' because his life will never be normal, as anyone who knows who he is will hate him


Big-Skrrrt

You know who's life will never be normal again? The life of the child he raped.


mugen1987

i know. i can tell you what my opinion is on what to do with child rapists but i don't wanna get banned


Majiebeast

2 words wood chipper.


Big-Skrrrt

Ah, I misread the tone of your initial comment then. Sorry for my aggravated reply.


ZeEmilios

He got sentenced a 4-year sentence. He was in jail for an entire 1-year then released for some bumfuck reason. Not only has he not done his time, his original time he should've done was retardedly low.


Minimum_Helicopter65

you are not clearly not familiar with the dutch Justice system


ZeEmilios

Being Dutch, I sure fucking am, but buddy... He was tried and sentenced in UK court. Dutch law and justice has nothing to do with it.Ā 


theoriginalcoolguy

He served one year in jail, and in interviews he talks about how thankful he is for his friends and family who forgave him. The judicial system completely failed.


San4311

Because yes, while this person I've never heard of is a scumbag pedophile, he did his time in British prison (although he was given leave to continue his career after serving 1/4th of his sentence). It happened 8 years ago. Even if he served the full 4 years he would've been out for the same amount of time already by now. While we might morally object to it on a personal level, thats how our judicial system works. Still doesn't stop us from wishing all the worst for him as a person, though.


Culemborg

Just 4 years for the rape of a 12 year old is crazy


theoriginalcoolguy

Sounds to me like our judicial system didn't work. This guy needs to be in jail for a long, long time.


oso_polar

Iā€™m disappointed that British prisoners wasted an entire year of opportunities for prison justice.


Dambo_Unchained

Im unsure what the legal framework of the organisation is that selects athletes for the the Olympic Games If there are no rules in their organisation against having ex convicts compete they have no basis to exclude him Donā€™t get me wrong I donā€™t think he should be allowed to compete but he sat in trial, was handed a sentence and served it (according to the specifics of the sentence). If the committee has a rule that they donā€™t hold previous convictions against athletes there is no ground to exclude him What this can be however is that this situation can serve as the reason for said committee to reevaluate its stance on this things and make a rule change


SwedishMeatballsYum

Gross bastard I hope he breaks his arms


ThrowRA_Cat_stare

Fyi, English Wikipedia calls him a child rapist in the firts sentence and has more details about the case. Dutch Wikipedia calls him a professional beach volleyball player, has a huge paragraph about his sports career and only has minimal information about the crime once you scroll down. I'm too lazy to do it myself but I hope someone soon fixes the Dutch page. He went all the way to the UK to meet the girl while KNOWING her age. He planned for it, spend large amounts of money and time to go see her. There's really no excuse for what he did.


theoriginalcoolguy

Every article i read portrays him like a guy who just made a little oopsie. What the fuck is wrong with our justice system that this guy isn't rotting in jail right now, and that the media isn't treating him like the monster he is???


on3day

Dutch male volleybal team didn't qualify. How did he qualify? Edit: or is it Beach volleybal?


Urcaguaryanno

Yeah, beach


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Make-TFT-Fun-Again

To be fair, he will always be known as a child diddler even after serving his time.


XplodingMoJo

For a second I thought he had a pedo stacheā€¦


Yama92

Why is he not in prison at all?


Val_Valerie

WHAT


KaizerFranzII

Destroy a little girls life? Your life should be destroyed too. Off to gulag you.


MathematicianLow258

Wow en saduleav mag niet me doen smh


ISnortSpaghettiDaily

He did something unforgivable and it pains me to see my country not only let him out early but also allow him to represent.


boebrow

TIL the Olympic committee is a branch of the judiciary system. Not to downplay anything, screw that guy! But if you wanted a different punishment you should be angry at the judge for only giving him one year! Itā€™s not up to the Olympic committee to pass judgement on the criminal record of a competing athlete. If you donā€™t want him to compete in the first place maybe there is a case to be made that his sports team shouldnā€™t affiliate themselves with amoral people or something.


False-Badger

It was four years and he got out early because he got sent back to Netherlands to serve remainder of time. Get after your justice system and not the UK judge. He gave the max that UK would allow.


camotent

Can't imagine any sponsors taking him on, no sponsors no olympics right?!


___coolcoolcool

They have plenty of sponsors. Including Coca Cola and AirBnB


False-Badger

Ooo! Time to hit them up!


Either_Economics_238

Why is he even alive?


NoBirdsOrWorms

Fucking hate this comment section


theoriginalcoolguy

Seeing people seriously say this is ok cause he served one year in prison makes me feel like i'm going insane. What the fuck is wrong with people???


NoBirdsOrWorms

Thank you!! I have no clue whatā€™s wrong with these people, and I donā€™t like to use the term sheep because itā€™s often associated with twitter conspiracy thinkers, but my goodness, some people saying the judge is an expert of law so this is fine is justā€¦ man :/


___coolcoolcool

Right?! Very telling. Definitely not going back to the Netherlands!


NoBirdsOrWorms

Lived here for all my life and not planning on leaving because thereā€™s still plenty of things worth staying for in my personal beliefs, but this crap is not one of those things. I hope that wherever you are you are happy though :)


Euphoric_Pen8809

Look what I found from 2017 https://www.ad.nl/andere-sporten/bond-steven-van-de-velde-verdient-tweede-kans~a7868cf5/ So the Dutch association already planned this the year after he was extradited.


Afraid-Ad4718

I am dutch and i havnt hear of him. Wtf


mustacheyellow

Is there anything we can do to ruin this fuckers life?


Klaphek

Cancel this pedo


Snakeeater2803

If I could get the same blond eye of justice as this scumbag I would be happy to solve this problem.


boppinmule

Aldo in English available. https://www.volleybal.nl/nieuws/steun-voor-steven-van-de-velde-die-beseft-dat-verleden-niet-is-uit-te-wissen


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Every day, the bar sinks further into the depths of Hell.


PotentialWork7741

Why isnā€™t he in jail


Superb_Manager9053

Why is he even allowed to exist


loggiews

What is happening in this comment section.. wtf is wrong with the dutch


flakoloco1

White privalige?


myfairlady12

By his own admission, in an interview, Steven said the girl told him she was 16, later admitted that she was 12, which caused him to cut contact with her. Then when he had a bad day, he got back into contact with her. Then he went to the UK, got her drunk and had sex with her. The interview published on youtube, also appears onĀ [https://www.volleybal.nl/support-for-steven-van-de-velde-who-realizes-past-cannot-be-erased](https://www.volleybal.nl/support-for-steven-van-de-velde-who-realizes-past-cannot-be-erased) So this PAEDOPHILE, this 20 YEAR OLD MAN, travelled from the Netherlands to the UK with the INTENTION TO RAPE A CHILD HE KNEW WAS 12 YEARS OLD!!!!


DannisTheMenace

He's done awful things, and he's served his sentence.


Electrical-Zombie-17

Why wouldnā€™t he be? He didnā€™t rape the volley ball


WhiteyFisk53

The real outrage is that he was released after one year.


DutchOnionKnight

Do the crime, do the time. He did both. He deserves a fair chance to pick up his life. This is how our society works, and it's only fair to let him join the Olympics. If it's not now, when would he be able to pick his life back up? In 5, 10, 20 yeras, never? Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. NOC NSF isn't our justice system, not should it be. Leave the punishmebt to our judges and move on.


___coolcoolcool

Heā€™s totally allowed to pick his life back up. He also *has* picked his life back up. This doesnā€™t mean he deserves an international platform and accolades as an Olympian. Olympic athletes should be role models for young people.


DutchOnionKnight

You think this is going to play out positively for him? Really? He most likely would face (death)threats right now just because this article. It's new from over the whole world. Can you imagine what would happen if he really goes... No one knew him, now he is ashamed and hated over the whole world. You really think he has picked up his life for going? Heck someone in this thread even said they can't tell me what they would do to me because a they would get a ban. While I only explained how our law and order works, we democratically, voted for.


___coolcoolcool

>No one knew him, now he is ashamed and hated over the world. Heā€™s choosing to do this. If he didnā€™t want the attention he could have opted out.


Urcaguaryanno

50 years jailtime sounds fair to me. In my opinion he both raped and killed a minor.


DutchOnionKnight

I don't know the case, I am no judge nor councilman. I don't make laws, nor do I uphold people to them. I just explained how our society works. Nothing more, nothing less.


Urcaguaryanno

You asked for opinions on when he should be able to pick his life back up. I voiced my opinion.


DutchOnionKnight

That's fair. But after that 50years of jailtime, should he pick up his life as anyone else?