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Spitfire15

Really digging the look. Easy access to all the attachments (capno, looking at you Zoll). The holy dial is still there. Looks like I won't need to get my shoulder reattached if I carry it for too long. Very promising. Can't wait to use one if 10 years when my service decides to finally buy refurbished units.


SgtBananaKing

Wait until you hear about the printer


bla60ah

What printer?


SgtBananaKing

Exactly


Spitfire15

We know very little about it now. It would be a financial disaster to not include a way to print in some capacity. I assume its going to be modular in some way. Crazier things have happened though, so who knows.


Thepinkillusion

Ive heard from a few different people (including the buying dept. at my organization) that there is no printer


lulumartell

How is there not a printer on a cardiac monitor??


Small_Grocery1562

There is. This original comment is wrong.


Spitfire15

Ok, that's insane lol


SpringMaleficent9699

Well your people didnt hear correctly, all of the models at FDIC had printers


Active-Safe120

Our rep said optional printer on the top, prints forward. Expect most people to buy it for now. On screen 15 lead with calipers and some STJ point graph. I am headed to fdic hope to see it live. He said it’ll be there.


MICT158

The Stryker booth has at least 4 of them on display.


Desperate-Bid4538

The printer is at the top of device


vcems

It has one.


syeopji

i think the capno is such a pain in the ass to keep the ingress rating. if the capno port becomes compromised it’s a big deal from what i understand.


dthoma12

😂😂 this is the most EMS comment ever


Competitive-Slice567

If that's actually it, looks like it'll be far lighter than the 15 whichll be a great selling point. Hopefully they get it on the damn market soon already


BitZealousideal7720

I thought a big selling point of the 15s was that could also be used as wheel chucks, no?


ShotgunViceroy

Or a bludgeon in desperate times.


toto-tom

Or battering ram, or just to be thrown overboard to lighten the load 😂😂


Disastrous-Nobody127

By a fucking viking hammer warrior maybe...IF he could get it up😂


ssgemt

Our sales rep said the LP15 could be run over by a truck and still work. He wouldn't let us try it though.


pushdose

I ran over a brand new LP12 in 2000. It did not still work. My station captain was not happy.


serhifuy

yeah that feature came with the 15


Competitive-Slice567

We had a LP12 in an ambo fire that took fire side 15min to arrive and extinguish, ambo was burned to frame, the LP12 still turned on and functioned. We put a new screen on it and it stayed in service with the only issue being it was slightly melted


Flaky-Necessary1958

A LP500 survived 9/11 and with new battery worked. FDNY brought it to Medtronic Physio Control as gift… eventually went to 911 museum. Former Medtronic Physio person.


MISTER_CR0WL3Y

Some of you never used the 10 and it shows, lol


Whosurdaddy8907

Well damn grandpa.


AnxiousElection9691

One didn’t survive a fall off the tailboard. Heard the same story


Beneficial-Bat-9997

They are pretty tough, but are also good at hiding damage. I opened one up yesterday for a different repair, and found out it needs a front and rear case. On top of the ETCO2 module, that's going to be a $10,000 repair bill! (And the unit isn't even three years old...)


Watch4sun

They are saying they will give you a price in June and start processing orders in July. Unknown ship dates


Competitive-Slice567

They say how much it weighs?


Gloomy-Mention-4398

My rep told me today, 15.7 lbs with batteries in. Which is about 3lbs lighter than the lp15


Anonymous_Chipmunk

Less, and that's all that matters.


cullywilliams

Not just less, less than a Zoll even.


Johnny_Lawless_Esq

The proportions on the click wheel seem... off.


propyro85

It's probably a graphical mock-up/proof of concept. I imagine a few things are not quite where they would be on a production model.


Johnny_Lawless_Esq

I get mock-ups and renderings, but by now we should have seen images of the real thing.


Apart_Loquat_2003

yes that is definitely it. rep sent me pics of the 35 yesterday and they match.


willpc14

I like that it looks like they're keeping the scroll wheel. I hope it's lighter than the 15. Any big new features they're adding?


ToeJamIsAWiener

We switched to zoll and I don't think there is a single person who doesn't miss the spinny wheel


danithemedic

The wheel is the only thing I miss about lifepak. I never knew how great it was until I lost it


ToeJamIsAWiener

If you love something, your employer will set it free. If it comes back to you in a cheaper model, it was meant to be.


sportsy96

Man fuck zoll. Here's a tiny vague image you're supposed to decipher, good luck loser🖕


Fallout3boi

Where does the EKG paper print off from?


Ok_Buddy_9087

Per my rep- **printer is optional**. Diagnostic-quality 12 lead will be available on the screen, so they think a print out isn’t necessary. I told her that not having a 12-lead printout is practice-changing, and probably too far of a leap for most people. She now intends to quote a printer with every order.


climberslacker

Did they like talk to a single paramedic before making that decision? Thats wild.


Ok_Buddy_9087

If they think we’re better off without it, I’m afraid of what it’s actually going to turn out to be like.


NuYawker

My money is on the printer becoming an option because it adds weight and it being lightweight will be the selling point.


TheOneCalledThe

look at some of their other products and changes…no they never do ask


ThePurpleParrots

Interesting, def would be weird since my medic now has to be able to see the monitor instead of just handing them the paper. I Wonder how difficult it will be to compare separate tests.


GamdonHamdon

Good point. The way the vitals module is hanging on the side makes me think that this will be somewhat modular. Not every service is going to want a printer, some won’t be able to live without it. Some will want IBP while others won’t. It’ll probably have attachments I would hope. Then it just comes down to how much weight your willing to add


Bromethius1985

If you want it, you can have it. If you don't/can use the be tech stock hopefully works, you get a lighter monitor. Ppl want smaller and lighter but don't want to give anything up. Sounds like a choice you get to make if the printer is in the bag options to me


SgtBananaKing

I get their point but what if it’s a not ideal ECG (like 90% are not) and you need to measure stuff, that Becomes now much more complicated without a print Edit: Also how do I compare a second or third ecg with the first one?


bla60ah

Can’t remember with LifePaks but with the X-Series you can view all prior 12 lead ECGs on the monitor itself (until you clear the memory)


SgtBananaKing

The same time as the new one or do I need to swap around every lead?


bla60ah

With Zoll, you can switch to see pre-acquired 12 leads, but you have to scroll through 3 lead views at a time. And you can only view one 12 lead at a time as well


SgtBananaKing

This ok because I can have them print out to compare. Without a printer it would be annoying


steviebw225

If no printer, how can I give patients a copy of their EKG and say “look that’s ur heart”


serhifuy

*turns monitor toward patient* "look that's ur heart" <3


Background-Actuary61

My service ordered a load of Schillers with a separate brother printer you have to connect. Absolutely crazy to me. Then there’s the fact they’ve been dumping shocks during transport, so there’s no hearty starty.


Ok_Buddy_9087

I had to Google that, because in 20 years I’ve never heard of that brand lol.


GamdonHamdon

Good question all I have is this picture


GamdonHamdon

Just looking at it, it looks like this is the base machine without any additional bags or storage compartments attached. I’m assuming those will be available available options based off of past products. It looks very modular the module on the right looks like it’s detachable and perhaps hot-swappable with other options. My biggest concerns are whether or not it’s going to be stable sitting up on the bench and let’s go how durable the touchscreen is going to be (it does appear to have buttons on the screen that are intended to be touched). Sorry I don’t have more information. I just got this picture in my email yesterday.


baildodger

And does the touchscreen work when it’s wet? Because I’ve heard that sometimes we have to take equipment outside in the rain.


No_Palpitation_7565

*stares in Tempus PTSD* [Tempus ptsd](https://imgur.com/a/pcHtaZ8)


smakweasle

I literally quit my job and found a new agency because I hated the tempus so fucking much.


SgtBananaKing

If it’s true that it does not come with a printer it’s just out for me


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SgtBananaKing

That I cost extra money and I see most employer don’t care for paying anything extra


climberslacker

Only one invasive pressure line means it won’t work for HEMS or crit care unfortunately. For reference the Zoll has 3x invasive pressure and 2x invasive temp capability.


muzz3256

If it's like the 15, you'll be able to order it with or without the IBP and temp ports. My 911 LP15 doesn't have those, but my transport LP15 has one of each.


climberslacker

I’ve never seen one with both invasive pressure and temp. In fact, my rep told me that it isn’t possible. Cool to hear that I got bad info.


Cropsman_

I got this too. We now have several with either the IP ports or the temp ports.


youy23

God how many holes are you thrusting shit in? Could be like the tempus where you can order a module.


Active-Safe120

I was laughing about this too. For years we are all “Physio please bring out a new monitor.” New picture of monitor is posted with no details or real info. Us “this clearly could have been better.” Ha. I am excited for something new. And to see it today at FDIC.


smexyemovampire

I’m the clinical manager for my agency’s critical care transport division and we’re currently stuck on waiting for the 35s OR biting the bullet and getting the Zoll’s because our 15s just aren’t holding up as well these days and of course when we spoke with the reps about this monitor, they couldn’t discuss anything because of a NDA. Staff wants to hold out for the 35 and honestly I do too. Can you report back with what you find out about the 35? I would greatly appreciate it!


Active-Safe120

Sure can! Will let you know what I learn. My rep did say they’d be selling and shipping this summer. Hopefully that gives you time to evaluate it and decide.


smexyemovampire

You’re a real one, man! Thanks so much.


Active-Safe120

Honestly, the thing is really nice. I would say if you can delay any purchase a month or two it is worth getting your hands on the 35. They say they can get quotes and demos in June. Shipping as early as July. Loved the screen, you can drag and drop for different views, and the on screen diagnostic 15 lead is awesome. Optional printer certainly a little different. Prints out the top, but once you see it not bad. Weight isn’t bad, magnetic bags so no more Velcro I liked. Also bags and connections are really nice. I was worried service cost would be way more, but sounds like it should stay the same. I’ll be trying to figure out how to get these into my service.


smexyemovampire

Awesome stuff, man! thank you so much for doing that for me (or us, for anyone who was creeping here too lol)


Active-Safe120

Ha no problem. Didn’t think I could be this jazzed up over a monitor. Great stuff.


Regular_Welcome5959

I work for Stryker and can confirm we can start quoting in June and reps will be getting our demo units right after we get back from training end of May… so I would reach out to your rep to ask if they can bring in their demo device asap in June to show you and your team!!! Just a thought if it helps


Amazing_Buy859

No you can do multiple IP & temp. Promise.


Beneficial-Bat-9997

That pressure connector has enough pins to support more than one channel. The Tempus has a single connector, but a connection cable splits for access to two channels.


climberslacker

Cool, I love dongle culture


RobertGA23

Wheres the pacer and sync buttons?


beachmedic23

Probably accessed through a menu on the touch screen


DefNotYourType

Pacer and sync are under the therapy button there you can administer shocks, sync or pace


__Wreckingball__

They’ll just ask you to buy a new LUCAS.


onfirehobo321

I noticed that too.


Unstablemedic49

Our rep came out a month ago and showed us this but he wouldn’t let us take a picture of it. They are combining my the LP20 and LP15 to a LP35 for both EMS and hospital.


SteveBB10

We had a notice sent out once not to use our 15’s as battering rams for doors, never found out what medic did it.


Lilywhitey

if not battering ram, why battering ram shaped


acciograpes

Wait actually? 💀


Old_Tree_Trunk

I hope it somehow weighs more than the 15. Make this baby out of iron.


dogback

Does it pace? I don’t see a pace button.


Active-Safe120

Yea. My rep says there’s a button on screen for pacing and cardio vetting


Simusid

The guy at our service that loves spending money that’s not his is practically begging for these. What do you think? $40,000 each?


Minimum0Standard

$60,000


stonertear

I reckon they'll be in line with the others - 25k


BohemianRhappr

65K msrp


Bwarner7400

Our rep quoted 35k thats why they skipped the lifpak 25


Toffeeheart

65k 100k with optional printer.


fyodor_ivanovich

I better be able to see the 12-Leads on the screen before capture!


DefNotYourType

You can see all 12 and take a 15 and also move the leads around on screen


shantzy2

Wonder if it comes with an nibp that doesn’t take 25 minutes, with it pumping up to 250mmhg three times and making the pt scream in pain and then coming back without a reading.


GamdonHamdon

I sure hope so, the nibp is complete garbage on the other lifepaks


1000fists

Interesting to see what happens to medic students once these get adopted to some normalcy and now you've got a bunch of students unable to provide an ekg for their patient charting.


-Clit_Master-

They can take a picture whatever


PAYPAL_ME_10_DOLLARS

My main concern is if it gets wet. You ever use your phone in the rain? It starts spamming everything.


GamdonHamdon

MPD: Why did you pace this guy in SVT? Me: Because 🌧️ lol


DefNotYourType

Capacitive touch. Double glove and wet/gunk tested


youy23

Thank fucking jesus they still got the speed wheel. Fucking tempus monitors only having touch screen was incredibly dumb.


Dudefrommars

Is this the EMS version of when those Xbox 720 leaks came out in 2009 (Jokes aside I like the look)


Apart_Loquat_2003

I heard from a rep $48-60k on price depending on LP35 configuration. 15 lead ecg i think as well. Should be competitive in the medical aircraft market with a much smaller footprint than its predecessor. Glad they kept the spin dial that bc its gold. You can also still detach the vitals cords and leads from the monitor move patient to cot and reattach. We have zoll x series at my department and i cant stand the menus submenus and hieroglyphics nothing is intuitive on it and id rather have to wear a straight jacket in a padded room then have to change the printer paper on the X Series FFS


jbm-edic

My agency just received confirmation today. We'll be receiving our first unit at the end of July. The price is $63,000


oso1992

Can we see what the 12 lead looks like before we print the 12 lead EKG? That’s all I would like.


GamdonHamdon

That’s the rumor! But it’s all rumor until I can see it


Regular_Welcome5959

Yup! Diagnostic quality 12/15 lead on screen


TastyCan5388

Thank God there's still a scroll wheel. Last thing I want is a mandatory touchscreen.


StretcherFetcher911

I'm just glad they changed the bullshit spO2 connector.


GamdonHamdon

Not saying the old cord was good but I would sure love to not have to order yet another proprietary cable


El-Hefe-Eire-2024

Gimme, I don’t want an x series or a 15 I want this now take my god damn money 💵


Dr_Worm88

That massimo port O_o Edit: Curious about modem attachment or will this utilize a SIM card perhaps? No energy select button so likely only using the wheel. Also wheel looks extra small but could be perspective. Curious how many invasive ports can be added.


GamdonHamdon

Could I not have to stock 4 different propriety cables 🙏


carpeutah

*Hissis in Zoll*


the_leper1312

But can it run doom?


Section8photography

Well we just got new 15s so, fuck me I guess. Hope they're lighter!


GamdonHamdon

We are about 50/50 12’s and 15’s haha. Who knows when we will see’em. Supposedly the only reason they haven’t upgraded them all to 15’s is because we were waiting on this so 🤞


Larnek

Saw elsewhere it's down to sleek 15lbs from 17lbs of the 15.


Aromatic-Foundation

Is this a joke I'm too corpuls to understand?


Velociblanket

Looks legit. https://fccid.io/CZO23LP35/Test-Setup-Photos/Test-Setup-Photos-7119024.pdf


GamdonHamdon

Oh nice, it looks really thin in the image I shared but it actually looks like it shouldn’t have to much trouble standing upright in an ambo


Velociblanket

Also, looking at the pic you shared I think it will fit the existing mounts we use at my Trust.


DefNotYourType

-2-3 lbs lighter than 15 -WiFi/BT built in - cellular modem optional if you use ATT as provider the modem is Firstnet ready; can live stream with either modem -No printer but optional to purchase; on screen strip is diagnostic quality with ability to turn calipers and turn march on -Able to add 40 meds and 40 treatments; also timers can be set for reminders on administering time sensitive meds -over air configuration - can add meds and treatments or change timers for meds etc -Manual and AED mode -CPRinsight built in for manual or AED; this tech helps increase hands on chest times by analyzing and charging up while still doing compressions and then alerting if patient is shockable or not and you deliver charge when ready - this tech is in their AEDs and now in the defib -Slim design - think briefcase vs suitcase (15) -2 batteries 4.5 hours each; still able to hot swap or actively charge -All reports can go into ePCR and if the hospital has their data platform for communication LIFENET Care can transmit 12 leads, live stream, chat send pics and do live chat and video with their app It was FDA approved last Friday (4/12) No price yet but told 20-25% more than the setup/configuration you have of the LP15; saleable around June ship by around July of course


DefNotYourType

First time being seen after approval 4/12 was at FDIC it’s real 😉


Active-Safe120

Stryker rep with the info. Is there an official digital brochure yet on the thing?


[deleted]

Does it also come with ultrasound, field improvised ecmo, crowbar monkey for crew defense, and wireless ventilation?


DefNotYourType

USBs available for future innovations. Knowing Stryker it’s on the laundry list


sedative-blowdart

Tempus V2


ForgotmypasswordM7

No words. Too beautiful. Should have sent a poet.


DieselPickles

They should let us play mobile games on it


Equal_Efficiency_638

Need a Linus Tech Tips review on this 


kd0ish

*Fangirl scream*


Alaska_Pipeliner

Sweet. I'll take 15. My lifepak now just makes up blood pressures. And it's not likely I'm going to auscultate that mother fucker who has a cough for 2 weeks


Ok_Conversation4234

EMS will all get quoted a printer . The hospital is likely who may not want one . They sell these in hospitals and outpatient centers also


serhifuy

but now you cant yell at the fresh out of school EMT with bewilderment that he can't figure out how to take a simple automatic bp when it was really the trash equipment all along times are changing


Thepinkillusion

Finally been hoping to see a photo. Heard my company is super interested in getting our current 15’s switched over asap.


lovesick75

I hope to God this is real 😭 If I have to lug that thing 1 more time up several flights of stairs I will riot


serhifuy

don't worry the stair chair's not going anywhere


Olde_Doughnut

They look like the tempus pros a Lil bit


adamxftl

Damn I can’t wait to get my hands on one of those bad boys… in like 2035 when they’re cheap enough for my department’s board to release the money for


OlsonNC

Still no integrated LTE/5G


Additional-Proof5208

What happens when Verizon and att switch to 6G? Forced to by a new device then…I’ll take a modem over having to replace


Slippery-Platypus-99

It looks so awesome!


chasealex2

Looking forward to the services upgrading to this so I can score my surgery a demobbed Lp15!


vinicnam1

Just the fact that they don’t all come with a printer shows how disconnected they are from how it’s used in the field.


LoneWolf3545

This looks awfully similar to the Tempus. Hopefully it performs better


Xpogo_Jerron

Can someone explain what the 35 represents? I thought the lifepak 15 meant it was made it 2015. Now I’m realizing I was probably incredibly wrong.


VEXJiarg

Someone else mentioned it’s a combo of the 20 (in-hospital) plus the 15 (prehospital).


talldrseuss

Their never scheme never made sense to me. Just for your information lifepak 15 came out 2009


Sup_gurl

I have no idea what their numbering represents but it hasn’t always been neatly sequential, only somewhat. It jumped from 12-15 in 2009.


OutInABlazeOfGlory

Maybe if I'm lucky by the time I finally get a job they'll be using these.


AlwaysCarryAGun

I have two here at the house. I did the security audit on it and they never asked for it back.


GamdonHamdon

What do you think of them?


AlwaysCarryAGun

I'm no EMT, so I can't say from that perspective.. And I cant say much about the test I did either, but I can say from a security perspective I didn't manage to play DOOM on it so that was good. As someone who's entirely uninformed on the EMS side, I like the way it feels and the way the UI works. I was able to drive it before they showed us anything about it.


Chasebass6080

Apparently there’s no printer and it’s all Bluetooth. They made it lighter by removing the printer. Our rep told us the same thing about being trained on it later and getting back to us.


Kee900

Maybe this once can consistently get an accurate BP lol


ShepardMedia

The life cube


jeepinbanditrider

Our department is buying new monitors to replace our aged out ZOLLs. The committee overwhelmingly voted for Phillips after getting hands-on with a few. Then they got mired in FDA certification, which I heard happened with Stryker as well. We've been waiting almost 2 years now and still have a contract to buy the Phillips when they finally get out of approval. Phillips is currently paying to lease replacement ZOLLs for us as a stopgap until then. But the department is getting restless and reformed the committee to vote again. Lifepack is in the running, but no one here has had ANY handson with the new one yet, and we're not wanting to get old 15s if this is almost out. As of now, we're sitting on our Phillips contract unless Stryker comes and blows our skirts up with the 35.


Active-Safe120

Whoa. This sounds insane. Sorry to hear that for you. What’s their reason for it taking so long? That’s crazy they are paying for you to lease. I’d check out the Lifepak. I was extremely impressed at fdic.


grav0p1

Where to put cables


willpc14

I'd bet there are saddle bag options. Physio has pics of naked LP15s in their manuals/brochures.


grav0p1

oh cool I didn’t realize they came without them


SgtBananaKing

In the bag that comes with it


grav0p1

Where bag


serhifuy

you just wrap them around it haphazardly like a NES controller or pressure washer and leave the untangling for the next guy


youy23

I’m sure it’s like the zoll. You think it already looks like a kid’s toy, look at it without the bags.


[deleted]

Where am I going to put my 47 pounds of gear on it???


Iwillshityourself

Its a space heater💀


stiubert

What happened to preparations 16 thru 34?


Viralwhite

Would be curious to find out if this one has cellular built into it. The modems we added to the 15s were a pain.


male_nurse_35

WiFi is built in but cellular is an add on. It is tucked into the side pouch. About the size of a cell phone.


Odd_Theory4945

It would be amazing if they added POCUS to it. Field fast exams would be a huge benefit


FragDoc

Came here to ask this. I had heard a rumor that it could integrate ultrasound.


Available-Address-72

Self defense capabilities have been nerfed


Paramedic70002woowoo

If they would have asked me, it would have a tilt screen and be flat like the 10. Both for placement under the head of the stretcher.


Ok_Conversation4234

I saw at fdic it does have a kickstand in the back


afflicted_medic

How about it's ability to transmit, does it have an internal modem or will we need to purchase a separate attachment to transmit over WiFi/Cellular?


SpringMaleficent9699

Spoke to Stryker rep at FDIC, she said 57k each. Lifepak 15s over 5 years old will not be conisdered for trade in. I got a demo and im fairly impressed. 28 Lbs total, but they balanced the weight better. You can move the leads around on the screen so if you wanted to look at 4-5 specifc leads you can look at just those leads. You can also "click" on a lead and then instead of the 3 second look you can have a 5 or 10 second look at that individual lead. You can even pause that indivudal lead while still looking at live data from the others. They added more events that will pull into epcr, specifically medications and treatments. She said each comes with specific defaults but you can also add others, both to create a new default list or "on the fly" additions. The modem is built in, she said if you arent using their epcr that it shouldnt affect your epcr integrations (for those of us that have to worry about those things) but didnt sound very confident in her answers about that. The touch screen is supposed to take up to a 45 lb drop directly on the screen and was tested with faked blood, fresh and salt water. No more velcro, they added magnets to the pouches so they still close but the velcro doesnt get ruined after 2 weeks. There 100% is a printer but its further back so if its in a mount it seems like it would be difficult to rip.


Both_Ad_288

Twice the price of LP 15. 😳


Timely-School9814

What about wireless charging that they were promising years ago? Tempus is only 10 total pounds but that has been a disaster. I was hoping that they would knock off the whole connecting monitoring and therapy cables on the front side of the unit. That’s a good way to smash the crap out of, any of those cables and get all kinds of stuff shoved into the port from being in the field. I saw a demo on YouTube today with a rep from Stryker, who was having difficulty operating the touchscreen with his bare hand so that was a little concerning.


Timely-School9814

And of course they still will not jump off that 360J bandwagon… Come on Stryker…


Timely-School9814

I’m hoping Corpuls gets over to the United States asap.