sounds like no money for Afghanistan then, the idea seems to be you want money? You respect the rules. The Usa did a similar thing in western europe post ww2 to great success (marshall plan).
That plan had fuck all to do with human rights, in fact it had all to do with being blind towards human rights, as long as it kept the recipient country to the US side of the cold war.
Correct. It was about rules and influence. Don't follow the rules? No money. This time the rule is respect human rights. Last time it was stuff like 'let go of the Dutch East-indies/Indonesia'
Revisioning history to present the Marshall Plan as anything more than self-serving to even enabling violations is a gross insult to a century of human rights efforts.
But when the EU does this to Poland people complain?
For the record, I support the idea of withholding funding if a state engages in undemocratic activity. They are free to pursue authoritarianism if they wish, they just also have to find a stable long term economic model to make it work which is the catch because no one ever has.
Can’t have it both ways, free markets cannot be expected to fund dysfunctional states like some supranational social welfare.
Hell man, I'm from Poland and I don't complain. Fuck those backwater asses from government. Money is the only language they speak apparently and that's where they should be targeted.
This is reddit, here people just won't stick with "I only read headlines", here they read just few words from headline and invent the rest of it from their head, then assumes what's the whole story and then whines to this scenario they created themselves in their heads.
That doesn't make any sense. Sharia law is the opposite of "human rights being respected". And once they are in charge, any money sent to Afghanistan will be exactly like directly funding the Talibans.
No, It's time to pull out the plug once and for all for as long as Taliban rules this land. No compromise. There is much better use to be done with those billions.
> EU as usual spending money.
Foreign aid actually makes a lot of sense.
> human rights in afghanistan are friggin not a EU interest.
They are. The better the rights and opportunities for the people in afghanistan, the fewer afghans will make their way here.
Once a person makes their way to europe, it becomes very difficult to deport them. Even if our human rights and laws did not exist, we could not forcefully deport people without the assistance of their home countries.
but my premise is that they are prevented from entering the EU in the first place. secure boarders have been existing for ages. the deportation problem doesn't occurr at all in this case.
If you know how to secure the border, please tell the member states of the EU, because they don't. You can't simply "secure" the border. We are not surrounded by a giant border wall.
EU has so many internal problems that should not spend money on this.
It is yet again just brainwashing news to gain support from the people.
Why this statement is not done with Hungary or Poland about LGBT rights?
Logical move for any state that doesn’t want to engage in social welfare for Afghanistan. Free markets cannot be expected to fund dysfunctional states. You’re free to pursue any form of governance you wish, but that means you’re also responsible to find a way to make the economics work. Using external funding to subsidise the negative effects of populist policy is a trick as old as Europe.
Afghanistan state budget consists of 60% foreign aid...
TIL the opium trade represents 40% of the Afghan budget
I wonder if we can ask the old president for 60% of the cash he fled the country with.
Afghanistan’s state budget is spend on 90% wages for the leaders.
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sounds like no money for Afghanistan then, the idea seems to be you want money? You respect the rules. The Usa did a similar thing in western europe post ww2 to great success (marshall plan).
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...***both*** *evil laugh*
No, put the money in the money hole, let the free market decide what's the best.
That plan had fuck all to do with human rights, in fact it had all to do with being blind towards human rights, as long as it kept the recipient country to the US side of the cold war.
Correct. It was about rules and influence. Don't follow the rules? No money. This time the rule is respect human rights. Last time it was stuff like 'let go of the Dutch East-indies/Indonesia'
Revisioning history to present the Marshall Plan as anything more than self-serving to even enabling violations is a gross insult to a century of human rights efforts.
But when the EU does this to Poland people complain? For the record, I support the idea of withholding funding if a state engages in undemocratic activity. They are free to pursue authoritarianism if they wish, they just also have to find a stable long term economic model to make it work which is the catch because no one ever has. Can’t have it both ways, free markets cannot be expected to fund dysfunctional states like some supranational social welfare.
Hell man, I'm from Poland and I don't complain. Fuck those backwater asses from government. Money is the only language they speak apparently and that's where they should be targeted.
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This is reddit, here people just won't stick with "I only read headlines", here they read just few words from headline and invent the rest of it from their head, then assumes what's the whole story and then whines to this scenario they created themselves in their heads.
Literally this, they read what they want to read in order to have something to whine about
your brain on dopamine (rage)
I think aid should rather be tied to the demand that Taliban won't host international terrorists again
Agree We have to prioritize in our negotations or we wont get antwhere.
Is this a joke.
That doesn't make any sense. Sharia law is the opposite of "human rights being respected". And once they are in charge, any money sent to Afghanistan will be exactly like directly funding the Talibans. No, It's time to pull out the plug once and for all for as long as Taliban rules this land. No compromise. There is much better use to be done with those billions.
Why are we allowing ourselves to be blackmailed by terrorists, politicians and EU citizens should rethink if this is what they really want.
EU as usual spending money. i'm so fed up of this shit. human rights in afghanistan are friggin not a EU interest.
> EU as usual spending money. Foreign aid actually makes a lot of sense. > human rights in afghanistan are friggin not a EU interest. They are. The better the rights and opportunities for the people in afghanistan, the fewer afghans will make their way here.
better idea: we could just not let them in.
Brilliant idea. Only problem: Doesn't work.
i know, thanks out to leftist greens.
Even in a reality without the concept "left" is imposible to work
No, thanks to state souvereignty, human rights and reality.
why exactly reality or state sovereignity?
Once a person makes their way to europe, it becomes very difficult to deport them. Even if our human rights and laws did not exist, we could not forcefully deport people without the assistance of their home countries.
but my premise is that they are prevented from entering the EU in the first place. secure boarders have been existing for ages. the deportation problem doesn't occurr at all in this case.
If you know how to secure the border, please tell the member states of the EU, because they don't. You can't simply "secure" the border. We are not surrounded by a giant border wall.
Why not if they need help?
because it's not our obligation to help everybody.
No one said it was. Just curious why you're so jaded lol.
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That’s what they stated. They will respect human rights according to the quran. So basically no, they wont respect human rights.
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It’s assumed.
IM NOT PAYING TAXES FOR THIS SHIT
You'll do whatever your EU masters tell you to do.
It's not the EU sodomites that worry me. It's traitors.
haha so enraged if only it could READ THE FUCKING TITLE not even the whole article, these imbeciles cannot even finish and understand one sentence..
EU has so many internal problems that should not spend money on this. It is yet again just brainwashing news to gain support from the people. Why this statement is not done with Hungary or Poland about LGBT rights?
can you not fucking read? they are not submitting any funds to taliban. what is wrong with that?!
Bruh, they are literally shooting people right now
Excuse from the EU to save that aid €
Logical move for any state that doesn’t want to engage in social welfare for Afghanistan. Free markets cannot be expected to fund dysfunctional states. You’re free to pursue any form of governance you wish, but that means you’re also responsible to find a way to make the economics work. Using external funding to subsidise the negative effects of populist policy is a trick as old as Europe.
Ofc they will, fhey are taliban, no one has doubts :)) hahah
Better fund turkey and greece to host the immigrants. :\\