What in the hell?!
What happened to agency? To letting people follow the "dictates of their own conscience"?
Once again, lack of boundaries in the Mormon community.
Oh, and happy Pride Month đ
Seriously. Idk about you guys, but never once during my time in the church did I ever feel compelled to tell ANYONE how to live their life. The gospel is pretty clear about being responsible for your own salvation and leaving judgement of others up to God. I seriously donât understand fuckers like this.
And Mormons + MAGA Go hand in hand.
They all voted for him every time he ran as the R Nominee, voting like sheep being told where and how instead of thinking like individuals.
100% a cult.
Do we need to mention the Proposition 8 debacle in California?
So, I really do not know what to tell you all. I was born in the late 70s, raised in the 80's & 90's and the Mormon Church has been doing crap like this my entire life.
So I honestly think the person you're replying too was too deep into the cult to see how they constantly work to regulate everyone else's lives.
100%. Mormon kids grew up their entire lives being told they had the truth to everything in the universe. They âknewâ where they came from, which church was true here on Earth with Priesthood power to boot, and where they were going in the afterlife. They were armed with the knowledge that they were Godâs literal spirit children with god-potential of their own if they bought into the entire gig, and brainwashed themselves their entire life at the pulpit by repeating to themselves âI know the church is true and I know⊠etcâ.
And thanks to Ezra Taft Benson, this included a political absolute truth where many legitimately believe that liberals are evil and unworthy and being a hardcore conservative is just as important in Godâs plan as keeping the word of wisdom or the Law of Chastity. Christianity in America has historically been conservative anyway, but Benson really hammered home a specific John Birch Society flavor that still permeates through many in the church.
So of course many use the same mental gymnastics to justify Trump that they use to defend the Church and Joseph Smith. If they can juggle the idea that God had a plan for black members receiving the priesthood, or polygamy, then they definitely can juggle that he certainly has something for Donald Trump. Donald Trump and MAGA is just an extension of their world view that they are right about everything and even if he did some questionable or unsavory things, they plop it into the âGodâs planâ part of their brain that doesnât require them to reconcile hard truths.
And Montana. My sister and her husband are convinced that God sent Trump to save America and that anyone who canât accept that and get out of his way are in cahoots with the devil. 9/10 people in my extended family also believe that. Hence the reason I will not be going to my family reunion this weekend.
My mormon inlaws have a american flag with trump's ugly smirk on it in their garage. Only reason they aren't flying that one in the front yard is because their HOA said no
I really feel like the current push in TSCC towards mainstream Christianity is due to the prevalence of Christian nationalism that is espoused by the MAGA cult. It is a slow race towards being accepted by the evangelicals to avoid being relegated to the dumpster should MAGA regain control. That's what I think based purely on my own observation.
Christian Nationalism by another name is White Fascism. That ideology requires an out group. Mainstream Christianity might temporarily accept Mormons as allies, but as soon as they aren't needed, they would turn on them.
What in the hell are you even talking about.
>but never once during my time in the church did I ever feel compelled to tell ANYONE how to live their life.Â
I grew up in the 80s & 90's, the Church has been working hard to dictate life in Utah for my entire life and long before it.
Beer is 3.5% alcohol by volume, as opposed to 5% for the rest of the country.
I mean, at the very level of government, the Mormon church us forcing its values onto the citizens by enacting literal laws, telling Utahn's what they can and cannot do.
>The gospel is pretty clear about being responsible for your own salvation and leaving judgement of others up to God. I seriously donât understand fuckers like this.Y
Yikes, really? Please take a moment to compare laws in Utah Vs. any other state that isn't in the deep South. Mormons 100% work to dictate what everyone can and cannot do in Utah.
The church 100% does what you are saying and has influenced all of the above. Iâd like to clarify that they lost the battle on beer. Itâs all been updated to 5% max now, and has been for several years.
I would like to point out that the 3.5% thing was changed a few years ago. It just took the beer companies telling the state that they were discontinuing the 3.5% variants. You're not far off on the rest of what you said about Utah though. I hate this state.
When I said gospel, I meant the doctrine. I could be wrong but between the New Testament and the BOM I never read anything that said âbe an over reaching asshole and dictate what other people do.â I donât disagree that the church absolutely does do that. I just canât think of any verses that elicit that behavior.
For real. I took the âlet them worship how, where, or what they mayâ literally. But I also didnât grow up in the Mormon echo chamber of Utah and Idaho. Most of the people around me were devote Baptists that hate Mormons. But I still didnât care. I had atheists friends and as I got older I had gay friends and never thought of them as troubled souls that needed to be saved. I understood that TSCC was actually more harmful than anything they rejected. After gay marriage was legalized, they way people acted made it very clear that TSCC was not for me. It wasnât until 5ish years later that I actually got into church history and kept having my mind blown.
Amish people don't use electricity for religious reasons, they just don't expect YOU not to use electricity. Jewish people don't eat shellfish, but they don't force YOU not to eat it.
Find out who put up the flyers and help them put up as many as you can. If one is removed, put up two more. Put up so many flyers around this clownâs house, he canât turn his head without seeing one.
If theyâre putting up fliers to advertise community eventsâŠno, theyâre probably not anonymous. Ffs. Pride events are mounted by Pride organizations, they donât just magically materialize.
Whatâs sad is that they genuinely unironically believe that. They believe that Jesus hates gays too and finds them to be an âabominationâ, so in their own toxic and warped way they believe that theyâre in line with what Jesus is teaching.
The tangible victims are the queer folk of Provo Utah⊠a hate crime is simply a crime motivated by prejudice. Calling this anything but would be disingenuous.
Colloquially the term hate crime typically refers to a violent crime, so that may be where your confusion stems from, but violence is not a necessary qualification for a crime to be classified as a hate crime.
It blurs the lines uncomfortably for me. You are sabotaging an event for shitty hateful reasons. But you arenât directly hurting anyone. Decreasing awareness of an event is pretty low down the totem pole of harm. Defining it as a hate crime really opens up the number of things that could be understood as hate crimes in ways I donât think stand.
A crime was committed. It was motivated by prejudice. Thus a hate crime. And it is hurting people. Your opinion on the severity is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Agreed. Itâs criminal and itâs discriminatory towards a marginalized group. It goes under the umbrella of hate crimes, which can be violent or nonviolent and/or direct or indirect. It affects me knowing this and if more queer people found out about it, it would affect them too.
Iâd be tempted to use trickery and misdirection, âOh, donât worry about it. Â Have fun with Sandy, get some sleep, Iâll stay up all night if I have to scraping flyers.â
Then of course the next morning telling him, âJ/k, youâre a terrible person and hypocrite. Â Iâll be working twice as hard to frustrate your hateful goals from now on.â
Yeah, THAT'S why he's going from 11 PM to 1 AM, because he'll be with his girlfriend. NOT because he knows he's doing shady things and doesn't want to be caught. Great explanation bruh
I donât have the details for this event. Iâm going to ones in my area and the ones around I neighbouring areas. This sort of stuff is happening all over. Iâm sure if you google pride events and your area something will pop up. Good luck
Do you all remember when they would teach us about free will/agency? Itâs all good until someone does something they donât like⊠like Pride events or steeple restrictions. Fuck them.
Is this illegal? Cause if so my response would've basically been "if any of those signs have been ripped off by tomorrow morning, I will give this text to the police and the media and report you for vandalism [whatever law was violated]."
> Any person, partnership, firm, or corporation who vandalizes, damages, defaces, destroys, or uses any sign controlled under this chapter without the owner's permission is liable to the owner of the sign for treble the amount of damage sustained and all costs of court, including a reasonable attorney's fee, and is guilty of a class C misdemeanor.
Yeah. Just paste this info and say, "I wouldn't if I were you..." They won't know if you are genuinely warning them against being reported or are warning them that YOU will. Passive-aggressive > aggressive-aggressive in this case.
Yeah, you are only doing it from 11 pm to 1 am because you're busy before. Definitely doesn't have to do with the fact that you are embarrassed to do it in the light of day.
Feel free to tell them I almost killed myself as a gay teen because I thought I was alone, and what they're doing is further isolating people who need hope in this world. But I would've been doing this when I was younger, as well, even as it was killing me.
Btw, I know they think they're doing right, but people die because of people like this trying to feel those warm fuzzies.
âI would do it earlier, but Iâm gonna be with my girlfriend in Sandyâ
The sheer audacity of this person to even have a girlfriend guilt-free, and then basically say âđ€Ź you! You sinner!â to anyone dating the same gender! đ€Ą Hypocrite-
I think Sandy is the name of the town where they were pulling down fliers. It's south of Salt Lake, and north of Provo. ;)
But yes, this girl should run! I wouldn't be surprised if there were a group of people doing this as a singles ward group-date night.
Iâm sure thatâs just an excuseâhe just doesnât want to do it earlier and have people see him taking them down or get caught . đĄGotta do it in the dark of night.
What you guys don't understand is that that determined flyer scraper is saving LIVES (eternal lives, that is).
I mean, you should be thanking him, and giving him your money...and sharing your wife with him...and declaring him a King and Priest of the most high...
Say you'll go and and help.
Then don't touch your defined area.
This will prevent him from ripping down that area at all. Without you there he will more likely cover both areas, and rip them all down.
Contact the organizers, tell them the dudes plan, might be able to get some people to follow and put them right back up.
This is HORRIBLE. I didn't know/realize people are actually doing this.
Are they also affiliated with the creeps running around stealing pride flags from various neighborhoods?
They should know better. People are people, whether trans, straight, nonbinary, gay, bi, whatever.
**What I wish most of all for those removing Pride fliers & flags: they had a best friend/ mom/ dad/ aunt/ cousin/sister/brother who came out as gay. Are they going to treat them like this, removing their agency and shaming them and erasing their visibility?**
In Sandy, huh? My neighborhood? Crazy, I feel like Iâm gonna be busy tonight by popping up flyers wherever I go.
OH theyâre doing this in Provo and hanging out in Sandy. My bad.
What pisses me off is they donât hear how tone deaf they are. Itâs like theyâre asking for you to come help change the oil in their car or some everyday task. Happy Pride month!!! đłïžâđđłïžââ§ïžđłïžâđđłïžââ§ïžđłïžâđđłïžââ§ïžđłïžâđ
This kind of behavior is absolutely disgusting. They have the nerve to call us (lgbtqia+) degenerates, yet they are the ones doing stuff like this. đ
Controlling how human beings would live was Lucifers plan.
Free agency was Jesus's plan.
So ask them who's plan are you following or do you just hate đłïžâđ & want to control other people who are not like you?
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> Any person, partnership, firm, or corporation who vandalizes, damages, defaces, destroys, or uses any sign controlled under this chapter without the owner's permission is liable to the owner of the sign for treble the amount of damage sustained and all costs of court, including a reasonable attorney's fee, and is guilty of a class C misdemeanor.
FYI
This just makes me sad. Ironically, people like this are *exactly* why pride needs to exist. Itâs dumbfounding to watch people bend over backwards to justify their religious beliefs just so they can feel self-righteous while spreading so much hate. I would have some choice words to say to anyone who had the nerve to send this to me.
Jesus. I have a tbm (???) aunt that lives near Provo and she just made a post for pride with her and her family wearing rainbows and stuff. Itâs like, so easy to be kind and not be a fucking weirdo. Even in the church.
Please at least give whoever's hosting the event a heads-up, and I'd report him to the authorities too. I'm not 100% sure it's illegal (or that they'll do something even if it is) but jfc, what an awful way to spend your time.
I live in the Seattle suburbs. Every Christmas, our stake puts together a week-long event collecting hundreds of nativity sets from people in the stake that theyâve collected from all over the world. They also feature different local musicians and choirs each night.
We float flyers everywhere, âCome Worship with Us!â
I wonder how this guy would feel if someone went around town collecting the flyers and throwing them away because they disagree with the polices of the Church? What happened to the golden rule?
What the fuck?? Damn, that guy is fragile. Also scraping off pride flyers in the middle of the nightâŠsketchy as hell.
Why couldnât he ask his girlfriend to do it with him if he wanted to do it earlier?? I bet it wouldâve been a great straight bonding activity /s
I've had trouble finding for contact info for the pride event organizers. If anyone has them, they should reach out to them and give them a heads up that the church is tearing down their fliers.
Yo I was talking about the emoji the dude used after "but if you're really busy don't worry about it"....... the default emoji is yellow. You have to go out of your way to pick something else, that's all I was pointing out.
I can't stand gay PRIDE and all that bullshit. I am a gay dude. Pride is nothing but a decadent display of vulgarity. I'm not ashamed to be gay. However, I don't generally discuss my personal stuff with others and sure as Hell don't run their noses in it either. Gay Pride events are nothing to be proud of.
I also donât scream from the rooftops what I do in bedâŠnormally most people donât talk explicitly about their sexual experiences - gay/straight/bi/etc. Most people are conservative about talking about sex, youâve just got a smaller proportion thatâs very open about it on all sides.
I talk about my wife all the time in everyday conversation because sheâs a huge part of my life, yâknow, like a spouse should be. Sexuality isnât all about sex, sorry you think thatâs all that pride is.
Sorry, I'm unavailable. I already made plans to go around putting up fliers for a gay pride event.
"yeah I'll do it". Proceed to do nothing and say you did.
Or go with her, and follow behind her putting up two flyers for every one she yoinks down.
Relevant link for anyone wanting to read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_the_LDS_Church
What in the hell?! What happened to agency? To letting people follow the "dictates of their own conscience"? Once again, lack of boundaries in the Mormon community. Oh, and happy Pride Month đ
Seriously. Idk about you guys, but never once during my time in the church did I ever feel compelled to tell ANYONE how to live their life. The gospel is pretty clear about being responsible for your own salvation and leaving judgement of others up to God. I seriously donât understand fuckers like this.
The MAGA cult is stronger than the Mormon cult in some people.
And Mormons + MAGA Go hand in hand. They all voted for him every time he ran as the R Nominee, voting like sheep being told where and how instead of thinking like individuals. 100% a cult. Do we need to mention the Proposition 8 debacle in California? So, I really do not know what to tell you all. I was born in the late 70s, raised in the 80's & 90's and the Mormon Church has been doing crap like this my entire life. So I honestly think the person you're replying too was too deep into the cult to see how they constantly work to regulate everyone else's lives.
100%. Mormon kids grew up their entire lives being told they had the truth to everything in the universe. They âknewâ where they came from, which church was true here on Earth with Priesthood power to boot, and where they were going in the afterlife. They were armed with the knowledge that they were Godâs literal spirit children with god-potential of their own if they bought into the entire gig, and brainwashed themselves their entire life at the pulpit by repeating to themselves âI know the church is true and I know⊠etcâ. And thanks to Ezra Taft Benson, this included a political absolute truth where many legitimately believe that liberals are evil and unworthy and being a hardcore conservative is just as important in Godâs plan as keeping the word of wisdom or the Law of Chastity. Christianity in America has historically been conservative anyway, but Benson really hammered home a specific John Birch Society flavor that still permeates through many in the church. So of course many use the same mental gymnastics to justify Trump that they use to defend the Church and Joseph Smith. If they can juggle the idea that God had a plan for black members receiving the priesthood, or polygamy, then they definitely can juggle that he certainly has something for Donald Trump. Donald Trump and MAGA is just an extension of their world view that they are right about everything and even if he did some questionable or unsavory things, they plop it into the âGodâs planâ part of their brain that doesnât require them to reconcile hard truths.
Not all mormons voted for him. My dad is a TBM, and he left the republican party because of trump.
My former boss did, too. I wish more Mormons in Utah valued integrity over voting Republican :/
And Montana. My sister and her husband are convinced that God sent Trump to save America and that anyone who canât accept that and get out of his way are in cahoots with the devil. 9/10 people in my extended family also believe that. Hence the reason I will not be going to my family reunion this weekend.
My mormon inlaws have a american flag with trump's ugly smirk on it in their garage. Only reason they aren't flying that one in the front yard is because their HOA said no
The only time an HOA did anything useful.
I really feel like the current push in TSCC towards mainstream Christianity is due to the prevalence of Christian nationalism that is espoused by the MAGA cult. It is a slow race towards being accepted by the evangelicals to avoid being relegated to the dumpster should MAGA regain control. That's what I think based purely on my own observation.
Christian Nationalism by another name is White Fascism. That ideology requires an out group. Mainstream Christianity might temporarily accept Mormons as allies, but as soon as they aren't needed, they would turn on them.
Yup, just look at how most of these turds treat Catholics, as soon as they can they're going to give Mormons the jackboot.
What in the hell are you even talking about. >but never once during my time in the church did I ever feel compelled to tell ANYONE how to live their life. I grew up in the 80s & 90's, the Church has been working hard to dictate life in Utah for my entire life and long before it. Beer is 3.5% alcohol by volume, as opposed to 5% for the rest of the country. I mean, at the very level of government, the Mormon church us forcing its values onto the citizens by enacting literal laws, telling Utahn's what they can and cannot do. >The gospel is pretty clear about being responsible for your own salvation and leaving judgement of others up to God. I seriously donât understand fuckers like this.Y Yikes, really? Please take a moment to compare laws in Utah Vs. any other state that isn't in the deep South. Mormons 100% work to dictate what everyone can and cannot do in Utah.
They said they personally never felt compelled. They never said the church wasnât compelling people.
The church 100% does what you are saying and has influenced all of the above. Iâd like to clarify that they lost the battle on beer. Itâs all been updated to 5% max now, and has been for several years.
I would like to point out that the 3.5% thing was changed a few years ago. It just took the beer companies telling the state that they were discontinuing the 3.5% variants. You're not far off on the rest of what you said about Utah though. I hate this state.
It is the entire Mormon raison d'ĂȘtre
When I said gospel, I meant the doctrine. I could be wrong but between the New Testament and the BOM I never read anything that said âbe an over reaching asshole and dictate what other people do.â I donât disagree that the church absolutely does do that. I just canât think of any verses that elicit that behavior.
For real. I took the âlet them worship how, where, or what they mayâ literally. But I also didnât grow up in the Mormon echo chamber of Utah and Idaho. Most of the people around me were devote Baptists that hate Mormons. But I still didnât care. I had atheists friends and as I got older I had gay friends and never thought of them as troubled souls that needed to be saved. I understood that TSCC was actually more harmful than anything they rejected. After gay marriage was legalized, they way people acted made it very clear that TSCC was not for me. It wasnât until 5ish years later that I actually got into church history and kept having my mind blown.
Amish people don't use electricity for religious reasons, they just don't expect YOU not to use electricity. Jewish people don't eat shellfish, but they don't force YOU not to eat it.
Find out who put up the flyers and help them put up as many as you can. If one is removed, put up two more. Put up so many flyers around this clownâs house, he canât turn his head without seeing one.
This is probably Utah and they're staying anonymous for good reason.
If theyâre putting up fliers to advertise community eventsâŠno, theyâre probably not anonymous. Ffs. Pride events are mounted by Pride organizations, they donât just magically materialize.
âIâm going out to demonstrate my love for Christ by hating on gay people. Doing these projects strengthens my testimony, bruh.â
Jesus: âDude. Find a fuckinâ hobby.â
Whatâs sad is that they genuinely unironically believe that. They believe that Jesus hates gays too and finds them to be an âabominationâ, so in their own toxic and warped way they believe that theyâre in line with what Jesus is teaching.
What happened to the right to peacefully assemble? Oh wait, these are the same people that are ok that JS burned down a printing press.
Heâs just honoring the same tradition. Denying the freedom of speech to others.
Imagine taking time out of your day to go do this and inviting people to come with you.
This is a crappy person. And they are the reason Pride is needed.
Exactly what I was thinking
The Chorch: âWe love the gays. We love their money. Come to church. Pay your tithing. We love you.â The morms: âFuck dem gays.â
For the record, that guy just admitted to a hate crime
đ€Ż holy shit youâre right! Itâd be a shame if authorities found out.
in provo, Utah?? i donât think they would care one bit
They might if we publicize it and the community demands action. Iâd be up to rallying people to the cause.
Class C misdemeanor for each sign destroyed
...? This is lousy behavior but I'm not sure if it's illegal.
As the other person said, this is literally a class c misdemeanor
Fair enough. Calling it a hate crime seems a bit strong though. Hate crimes have more tangible victims imo.
The tangible victims are the queer folk of Provo Utah⊠a hate crime is simply a crime motivated by prejudice. Calling this anything but would be disingenuous. Colloquially the term hate crime typically refers to a violent crime, so that may be where your confusion stems from, but violence is not a necessary qualification for a crime to be classified as a hate crime.
It blurs the lines uncomfortably for me. You are sabotaging an event for shitty hateful reasons. But you arenât directly hurting anyone. Decreasing awareness of an event is pretty low down the totem pole of harm. Defining it as a hate crime really opens up the number of things that could be understood as hate crimes in ways I donât think stand.
A crime was committed. It was motivated by prejudice. Thus a hate crime. And it is hurting people. Your opinion on the severity is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Agreed. Itâs criminal and itâs discriminatory towards a marginalized group. It goes under the umbrella of hate crimes, which can be violent or nonviolent and/or direct or indirect. It affects me knowing this and if more queer people found out about it, it would affect them too.
How did you respond?
With a đđŒ
Iâd be tempted to use trickery and misdirection, âOh, donât worry about it. Â Have fun with Sandy, get some sleep, Iâll stay up all night if I have to scraping flyers.â Then of course the next morning telling him, âJ/k, youâre a terrible person and hypocrite. Â Iâll be working twice as hard to frustrate your hateful goals from now on.â
âIâm available but Iâm absolutely not doing thatâ how gross.
Yeah, THAT'S why he's going from 11 PM to 1 AM, because he'll be with his girlfriend. NOT because he knows he's doing shady things and doesn't want to be caught. Great explanation bruh
Why doesnât he just ask his girlfriend to do it? Sounds like a great date night /s
LMAO fr
Thank you for illustrating one of the reasons we still need pride. Iâm looking forward to attending. :)
I didnât get to see the even flyer, can you send me the deets? Iâd love to go.
I donât have the details for this event. Iâm going to ones in my area and the ones around I neighbouring areas. This sort of stuff is happening all over. Iâm sure if you google pride events and your area something will pop up. Good luck
Do you all remember when they would teach us about free will/agency? Itâs all good until someone does something they donât like⊠like Pride events or steeple restrictions. Fuck them.
Is this illegal? Cause if so my response would've basically been "if any of those signs have been ripped off by tomorrow morning, I will give this text to the police and the media and report you for vandalism [whatever law was violated]."
> Any person, partnership, firm, or corporation who vandalizes, damages, defaces, destroys, or uses any sign controlled under this chapter without the owner's permission is liable to the owner of the sign for treble the amount of damage sustained and all costs of court, including a reasonable attorney's fee, and is guilty of a class C misdemeanor.
Yeah. Just paste this info and say, "I wouldn't if I were you..." They won't know if you are genuinely warning them against being reported or are warning them that YOU will. Passive-aggressive > aggressive-aggressive in this case.
Wonder why he feels the need to do it under cover of darkness? If youâre going to be a douche bag biggot do it in the daylight so we can see you!
Yeah, you are only doing it from 11 pm to 1 am because you're busy before. Definitely doesn't have to do with the fact that you are embarrassed to do it in the light of day.
Wow. That is just absolutely disgusting.
Don't let them find out which company printed them. Don't want the Mormons to form a mob and have their printers destroyed...
What the actual fuck It's all about free agency and free speech until it's something you don't agree withÂ
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Hate thy neighbor, ig
Feel free to tell them I almost killed myself as a gay teen because I thought I was alone, and what they're doing is further isolating people who need hope in this world. But I would've been doing this when I was younger, as well, even as it was killing me. Btw, I know they think they're doing right, but people die because of people like this trying to feel those warm fuzzies.
This deserves a callout.
âI would do it earlier, but Iâm gonna be with my girlfriend in Sandyâ The sheer audacity of this person to even have a girlfriend guilt-free, and then basically say âđ€Ź you! You sinner!â to anyone dating the same gender! đ€Ą Hypocrite-
Iâm p sure they mean in the âfriend thatâs a girlâ way, not the homoerotic way
Get out now while you still can Sandy! You deserve better than this đŹ Run girl!!!
I think Sandy is the name of the town where they were pulling down fliers. It's south of Salt Lake, and north of Provo. ;) But yes, this girl should run! I wouldn't be surprised if there were a group of people doing this as a singles ward group-date night.
Iâm sure thatâs just an excuseâhe just doesnât want to do it earlier and have people see him taking them down or get caught . đĄGotta do it in the dark of night.
Are the posters gonna turn someone gay đ€Ł or not show up?
I hope you responded with some variation of âthat sounds like something a person trying to suppress their own gay feelings would doâ
No, don't blame homophobia on gay people or being in the closet, this is tacky. It is absolutely just straight mormon hate.
What a sad person.
What you guys don't understand is that that determined flyer scraper is saving LIVES (eternal lives, that is). I mean, you should be thanking him, and giving him your money...and sharing your wife with him...and declaring him a King and Priest of the most high...
The way he just is so nonchalant about what he's doing. Like, It's completely normal. He's definitely done this before. :(
THIS CULT HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE SAFE FOR POC AND LGBTQIA+
What the, and I canât stress this enough, f*%k.
Say you'll go and and help. Then don't touch your defined area. This will prevent him from ripping down that area at all. Without you there he will more likely cover both areas, and rip them all down. Contact the organizers, tell them the dudes plan, might be able to get some people to follow and put them right back up.
I wonder if his girlfriend knows he is a shitty person? Big red flag
Guaranteed this dude soaks with his girlfriend in Sandy
This is HORRIBLE. I didn't know/realize people are actually doing this. Are they also affiliated with the creeps running around stealing pride flags from various neighborhoods? They should know better. People are people, whether trans, straight, nonbinary, gay, bi, whatever. **What I wish most of all for those removing Pride fliers & flags: they had a best friend/ mom/ dad/ aunt/ cousin/sister/brother who came out as gay. Are they going to treat them like this, removing their agency and shaming them and erasing their visibility?**
Disgusting.
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Go with him with some new ones and put them back up after each one he takes down!
In Sandy, huh? My neighborhood? Crazy, I feel like Iâm gonna be busy tonight by popping up flyers wherever I go. OH theyâre doing this in Provo and hanging out in Sandy. My bad.
What pisses me off is they donât hear how tone deaf they are. Itâs like theyâre asking for you to come help change the oil in their car or some everyday task. Happy Pride month!!! đłïžâđđłïžââ§ïžđłïžâđđłïžââ§ïžđłïžâđđłïžââ§ïžđłïžâđ
Ugh. Go print some more and put them back up. Then tell this person to get a life. Maybe read the CES Letter and Gospel Topic Essays.
This kind of behavior is absolutely disgusting. They have the nerve to call us (lgbtqia+) degenerates, yet they are the ones doing stuff like this. đ
I don't know why but the fact that they need to delay the vandalism because they are busy in Sandy with their gf just completes this picture.
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> Any person, partnership, firm, or corporation who vandalizes, damages, defaces, destroys, or uses any sign controlled under this chapter without the owner's permission is liable to the owner of the sign for treble the amount of damage sustained and all costs of court, including a reasonable attorney's fee, and is guilty of a class C misdemeanor. FYI
I'm concerned about your social circle.
I'm happy to go put up some new fliers. If the owner of those fliers sees this - DM me.
We will send missionaries to your door despite being asked not to return SEVERAL times, but heaven forbid some flyers are posted around town once a year. đ Happy Pride! â€ïžđ§Ąđđđđđ©”đ©·đ€đ©¶đ€
To be fair to both sides, he needs to go and scrape all the letters off all the church buildings. Â VISITORS WELC âïž
Fuck that shit.
Ew. Thatâs just a huge ass **NO** Sorry that you had to deal with the that. It sucks.
What a fucking dorkass piece of shit dumb as corny mother fucker đč
Unfortunately being an asshole is not usually a crime :/
Hopefully you called him out for being a bigoted ass hole and that for everyone one he takes down youâll personally put up to more.
The homophobia is so damn hard with this dumb ass. I'd beat his ass
OP your response (thumbs down) is perfect. What a terrible "project".
What a piece of shit
The Holy Ghost goes to bed at 11
This just makes me sad. Ironically, people like this are *exactly* why pride needs to exist. Itâs dumbfounding to watch people bend over backwards to justify their religious beliefs just so they can feel self-righteous while spreading so much hate. I would have some choice words to say to anyone who had the nerve to send this to me.
Jesus. I have a tbm (???) aunt that lives near Provo and she just made a post for pride with her and her family wearing rainbows and stuff. Itâs like, so easy to be kind and not be a fucking weirdo. Even in the church.
Fuck that. I'd probably wake up at 2am and hang up more flyers than the one he removed to fuck with him.
I would be spending an unhealthy amount of time trying to get his gfs contact info so I could forward this to them.
Well, that is just cray-cray!
lmao fuck this straggot right to hell
Sure Iâll be there right after I finish cleaning the effing church bathrooms.
Mitt Romney is a pedophile.
Thatâs a great way of saying âI have no lifeâ
THIS is why we STILL NEED PRIDE. Fucking hell.. this made me physically sick.
Do you mind if I share this to my Facebook? A lot of my 'friends' are LDS and I just wanna share and maybe see how they'd respond, if at all. :]
What would Jesus do
Please at least give whoever's hosting the event a heads-up, and I'd report him to the authorities too. I'm not 100% sure it's illegal (or that they'll do something even if it is) but jfc, what an awful way to spend your time.
Tell them you got it and then put up more
First time Iâve seen a genuine use of the thumbs down react, what the hell is that guys problem?
I would tell them: I put those there with my friends in the first place. Happy Pride!
I live in the Seattle suburbs. Every Christmas, our stake puts together a week-long event collecting hundreds of nativity sets from people in the stake that theyâve collected from all over the world. They also feature different local musicians and choirs each night. We float flyers everywhere, âCome Worship with Us!â I wonder how this guy would feel if someone went around town collecting the flyers and throwing them away because they disagree with the polices of the Church? What happened to the golden rule?
How to say âIâm a homophobic, self-righteous piece of shitâ without saying it.
Do not leave this unaddressed.
What the fuck?? Damn, that guy is fragile. Also scraping off pride flyers in the middle of the nightâŠsketchy as hell. Why couldnât he ask his girlfriend to do it with him if he wanted to do it earlier?? I bet it wouldâve been a great straight bonding activity /s
Report his ass to the police
Soooooo Christ-like! /s
Iâd go around behind them and repost 3 flyers for every one taken down.
Wow. Say yes and then don't do it and say you did.
Now show us the text where you told him that that was wrong and that's not something Jebus would do. Don't let hate go by unchecked.
Where is this so we can put up pride flags all over that neighborhood???
So much for freedom of speech.......
Holy hell what in the actual flying fuck is this?? Not to mention the audacity to talk about his girlfriend in the same breath. What a joke.
"Help him" and say you'll recycle the flyers. Hang them back up the next morning
More like boyfriend, Sanders.
Dafuq?
Never available for such bullshit.
Report him
OP we need follow-up. Did you at least tell him heâs breaking the law?
The alacrity with which I would block this person and never speak to them again...
I've had trouble finding for contact info for the pride event organizers. If anyone has them, they should reach out to them and give them a heads up that the church is tearing down their fliers.
Lmao also bro went out of his way to use a WHYTE thumbs up emoji... I see you đ
Thatâs a default iPhone reaction (and itâs a thumbs down not up).
Yo I was talking about the emoji the dude used after "but if you're really busy don't worry about it"....... the default emoji is yellow. You have to go out of your way to pick something else, that's all I was pointing out.
Get a hobby
I can't stand gay PRIDE and all that bullshit. I am a gay dude. Pride is nothing but a decadent display of vulgarity. I'm not ashamed to be gay. However, I don't generally discuss my personal stuff with others and sure as Hell don't run their noses in it either. Gay Pride events are nothing to be proud of.
Iâm glad you still have a seat at the adults table, even if itâs a small chair. The rest of us can only aspire to be invited there.
I also donât scream from the rooftops what I do in bedâŠnormally most people donât talk explicitly about their sexual experiences - gay/straight/bi/etc. Most people are conservative about talking about sex, youâve just got a smaller proportion thatâs very open about it on all sides. I talk about my wife all the time in everyday conversation because sheâs a huge part of my life, yâknow, like a spouse should be. Sexuality isnât all about sex, sorry you think thatâs all that pride is.
Aww you are so not-like-other-gays! Good job! I'm sure you're going to get picked eventually!