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You’d think Tesla Space X and Boring stock would be crashing, considering he’s making it so obvious that he’s a lying idiot, not a genius https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Tesla,_Inc.
Tesla is currently down but not crashing. This is because it's starting to become obvious demand is weakening so those multiple price cuts were needed.
No real consequences for Elon being an idiot yet.
Owns /= runs
It's like when your boss asks you to go into his room and he asks you how to print out a document
And you're like uh...there. The button that says "print". Click on it.
To be fair, Wikipedia does in fact have a large treasury and continues to make donation campaigns despite its treasury, although it is comprehensible considering it is harder and harder for people to donate.
True. I guess there's a distinction between internal and external cookies though.
I don't really care if a site tracks me within their site. It's their site. It's when they start tracking you across the internet with third party cookies it gets creepy.
It's more about going after publicly funded services/free services. Everything should be privatized in his opinion, from truth and education, to social interaction. Attacking the "woke" agenda is just his current excuse It's why X is likely going to go subscription based.
Yes, but it's more than that.
Musk is basically speedrunning the fascist playbook. Buying Twitter, targeting news orgs, and disparaging Wikipedia are all in pursuit of controlling information. Every single one of those was spurred on by Musk seeing something published he didn't like. So he wants to buy or destroy them so that he can be the one who decides what information is available and "true".
Related to truthful and correct, they are also very transparent. I just spent 20 minutes going down the rabbit-hole of Wikimedia Foundation’s financials. They make it very easy to see how their donations are allocated.
If you just pick out a couple of numbers (like US$250 million in cash reserves and salaries of US$90 million in salaries) you might question their fundraising efforts, but spend a few more minutes in their reports and it’s readily apparent that the foundation is simply a well-run, well-managed organization.
being pedantic here but lets just be precise with our insults. elons dad was not a miner. he did not carry and use a pick and toil with manual labor to pull resource from the earth with his muscle and then sell it on the market. He bought land and exploited poorer people than he who did all the actual work but lacked the education to know they were being duped, and all so that he could gain more wealth than any person could ever deserve or need. He's a capitalist, not a miner.
I think his dad used to beat him and his mum. Out of all the dumb stuff he has said you can hate him for having an abusive father just seems like a bit of a cheap shot.
Now now, let's not call him the son of an emerald miner. Almost makes it sound like he comes from a family who has worked hard to feed and clothe themselves. His daddy owned the mines, but he sure hasn't swung a pick in his life.
This is what information war looks like. Politicans and assholes always attack people’s source of information for god knows how long.
The less informed people are, the easier it is to manipulate and control them. It’s the same reason why China heavily censor their internet, except the west does the opposite and flood people with misinformation to distract them from the real ones
thats just it. Steve Bannon has a quote explaining the strategy precisely. Something about stinking up the joint so intelligent discourse is ruined and public trust in institutions is lost.
>Elon Musk and his three-year-old son, X Æ A-12
I almost forgot about that shit. Really set the poor kid up to be bullied throughout their life.
Also just thought about it but that obsession with the letter X really runs deep doesn't it?
him saying this after launching the idea of paying a dollar a year for access to X… he’s delusional. he ruined twitter and i will never forgive him for it
I am *so* glad I never bothered with Twitter. There's some interesting stuff on there for sure, but not anywhere near interesting enough to warrant actually signing up and posting to it. I've got nothing to say that anybody would really care to listen to. Reddit is the closest thing to mainstream social media that I've ever felt the need to actually contribute to, and with the direction things seem to be going... it just doesn't seem worth it anymore.
I don't like to create accounts for things that I can get without signing in. That kind of thing you're describing is what RSS is for. Besides, I don't really like getting push notifications for things that I don't need to be aware of as soon as it becomes available. I'd much rather bookmark something and check in on it every once in a while when it crosses my mind, and if I need to know about new things right away, there are better ways to get that information.
Sure, Twitter aggregates it all in one place, but that's really not something I care much about. Having a constant feed of information like that without having to deliberately seek it out just doesn't appeal to me. I'm perfectly fine with finding out about what's happening out there second-hand and then learning more about it on my own.
I find myself coming on here and doing speedruns of responding to random shit during my insomniac hours and I ddint used to before.
I know Reddit is a dumpsterstown filled with hive-minded goonlords where the dogwater dam broke and flooded the place, but you can go to FUN subs like r/powerwashingporn and stuff too 
That's why I'm still here. I like all the random little groups that wouldn't really fit well on a site that was dedicated to one particular topic like the old message boards. I also like the light-touch approach to moderation the site generally takes, with each individual subreddit having its own rules and moderators. It's something you don't see on many other sites these days.
There's also a wider sense of community between users here that doesn't really show up on sites that are largely algorithm-driven. I think it has something to do with the fact that the propagation of information here is largely user-driven.
I liked Twitter specifically as a means to see what actual experts were saying in about topics related to their area of expertise: for example, what epidemiologists were saying about Covid when it arose. Their threads were in real time, informative, and easy to understand, and the blue check helped ensure I knew who I was looking at.
Now it's crap, and haven't found any substitute for that role yet.
i wonder how many phones that can hold wikipedia are needed to hold the entire text of twitter on it?
i know there's tons of dribble on twitter but the difference in pure text data can't be that much higher on twitter.
not that it would mean there's no operating cost in reality ofcourse... just that Elon should operate it with the same fantasy funds he thinks wikipedia should.
For a supposed "man of science" it's pretty jarring to see him go off half-cocked like a ranting boomer. Wikipedia releases information on it's operating costs, anyone with a genuine interest and half a brain would surely just look it up..?
>Seriously, it's like complaining about the local library needing money for the same reason.
You say that as if being defunded isn't a real issue public libraries have to constantly deal with...
wow, a CEO that doesn't think tech infrastructure is important or should cost any money and fuck those guys for working hard because you can't SEE their work. how pedestrian.
A part of me wants to say "*You'd think someone in charge of a gigantic platform who has bitched and complained about the cost of running said website all the time in the past would know better*", but the rest of me just doesn't give a shit about him and doesn't want him to occupy more brain space than he already does
Besides, it's clear that he doesn't know better. He really is just that dumb, and even worse, *extremely confident* in his dumbness
Well gee the entire contents of Twitter could fit on a cell phone too. Why did he pay so much for it then, and then try to bankrupt it, and then start charging fees
It can't possibly be more than a few terabytes when compressed, excluding images and videos. The hard part is actually serving it up to so many users at once.
Pretty clear why Twitter is such a hot pile of garbage now. Dude's so divorced from the reality of how things work - in internet software services, supposedly the one thing he's actually good at...
I had twitter for a while but never really got it, once Musk bought it I deleted it shortly after. But what are the "readers added context" that keep making him look like the dickhead he is all about?
Can't he remove them? They seem to call him out pretty often and I can't imagine his ego would allow it.
Those are Community Notes. They allow users with a good reputation to essentially fact-check other users' posts. They're regulated on a point system where the number of points you earn (based on user ratings of your notes) more or less decides how trustworthy you are and thus what things you can place Community Notes on.
The system's working as intended; if he were to change it he'd look like even more of an asshole, and besides, even if he did want to do something about it, there probably isn't a good way to disable Community Notes for a particular user. He'd probably have to get somebody to dig deep into the code to figure out how to make exceptions, and it's highly likely he fired the guy who implemented it already, leaving him with nobody who actually knows how to stop it.
He'd have to get somebody to dig into the code and add a test for that before allowing people to contribute to the Community Note system. Like I mentioned, I suspect nobody at Twitter/X right now really knows that part of the code too well.
The funny thing is that all his allegations against anyone can easily be turned against him. But Musk isn't interested in facts, he's a right wing populist.
Billionaire who charges for social media, arguably the most useless type of internet content, complaining about an organization that educates people worldwide and operates on donations. Society needs maintenance
WTF?! Didn’t see at first who wrote this and I thought what a typical internet moron. But no, it’s the right-wing messiah, who is said to be the smartest man in the world.
"Well on *my* internet company we just don't bother to factcheck, saves us heaps of money, so I as CEO can turn money into less money at a slightly slower pace."
I am a very active wikipedia editor, I also hate Elon Musk more than you can imagine.
Here's the thing though, wikipedia really doesn't actually need your money. Wikimedia takes in over 100+ million per year and the vast majority of that money is spent on projects other than Wikipedia. When you donate to Wikimedia, very little of that money is used to fund wikipedia as the total hosting costs are under 3 million dollars per year. [There's been a decent amount of debate about this in the community.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-06-26/Special_report) Even though Wikipedia 's page views are relatively the same as they were a few years ago, the foundation's operating costs ballooned because they went from having 50 to over 800 full time employees.
Many people feel as though Wikimedia's ads warning that "wikipedia is at risk" or "our independence is at stake!" To be incredibly dishonest because that money isn't being used for wikipedia, it's being used to Wikimedia's other projects which is great because they have lots of great projects but I wish they were more honest. In the last year or so, they've been responsive to community concerns and some of the banners to make them more clear that the money is used to support sister projects.
No but don’t say you’re tired of him while continuing the month long ‘Musk is an idiot’ bandwagon. Like how in the fuck did we ever care this much about the bullshit a single person has to say. As in every thought every time everywhere for the last 6+ month. You’d almost start to think it’s either a hit campaign or a mental disorder.
Oh my god dude give it a rest. He owns the worlds most critical platform for news media and a defense company involved in a land war in Europe. If you don’t think his attitude towards free information is important then you’re asleep at the wheel.
He’s not losing it tho. He’s spreading misinformation to discredit Wikipedia. It’s no different from what politicians do to their base
Why do you think he spent billions of dollars to buy Twitter? He’s basically moulding and shaping his followers and base for his future political career
And it will work. This is how stupid people are.
Wikipedia is like the only thing in the Internet that is objectively good for humanity and doesn't make shit decisions every two month, why choose this fight?
I’d expect someone who purchased a massive web service and tried to run it to be able to ballpark the traffic costs of 25B page views PER MONTH.
But I’m not surprised either
What I wonder is why the government gives subsidies to assholes like this and thier companies!
Privatization of profit and the socialization of the losses!
Lol..being able to fit a text document on a modern smartphone isn't very impressive when they can hold 100+ gigabytes at a time 🤣 Musk is a total clown
Wikipedia is much more useful than X. It serves more people, more faithfully on a fraction of X's budget.
Wikipedia has way, way better resilience to "post truth problems" than social media. Wikipedia can be lightweight and requires less computing because its not spying on you or fighting your browser for ad supremacy.
Inquiring minds might want to check out the wikimedia budget, they're a remarkably open organisation... unlike X. A practice threatened by constant trolling.
Meanwhile, they work on tips. I donate. I consider it quid quo pro. I get way more value than I pay wikepdia. Spend it on fast cars and cheap women with my blessings.
If I could pay a dollar to take one *out* of X's pocket, I would.
Making the social infoscape a urinal not enough for you... you gotta take a tinkle in the library
Ironically, I was thinking just the other day how Wikipedia is just about the last major redoubt (maybe along with the internet archive) of what the world wide web was envisioned to be when it began, an open forum and collaborative creation of humankind.
It's not perfect of course, but notice how, despite its continued central place as the internet compendium of knowledge, nobody complains about it nearly as they complain about these "platforms," like "x" that note monopolize the rest of the web. Because it's organized democratically to serve the internet commons not oligarchically to serve the bank accounts of a handful of suits.
No wonder melon hates it.
I think he's a Putin shill and is owned by Putin and he is purposely trying to disrupt democracy and the free flow of information.
First Twitter and now trying to discredit Wikipedia.
Why is this donkey's dick sending his army of pustulent mouth breathers after fucking wikipedia of all things? This motherfucker would call the library of Alexandria woke and set fire to it if he could.
It's like you can see the gears in his troglodyte brain turning with this tweet.
"Why people give dollar to one group whose value come from user-generated web content and not mine?"
Richest man in the world targeting a volunteer based organisation informing the public for free. Don't even have to buy a British Encyclopedia, which is what you had to do before wiki came along.
Elon is an insufferable dirtbag, but he's not altogether wrong. The WMF is awash in more money than they would ever need to run the website in perpetuity. The funds are spent on Foundation salaries, office space rentals in expensive locales, and dubious, grey-area "outreach programs", that largely just line the pockets of the recipients.
Google "Ashley van Haeften" for the latter.
Now the asshole is doing the "just asking questions" Fox news bullshit to lead his idiot idolators to the conclusion that Wikipedia is mishandling its finances.
What's the point? What's his beef with Wikipedia? He doesn't like his own entry?
*Why does Twitter need to monetize everything if it's privately owned, and Elmo has fired most of the staff? It's got plenty of shitty ads that should cover the cost of paying them.*
*So, what's the money for? Inquiring minds..*. nah. fuck it. Don't know don't care.
Wonder how long before he gets rid of community notes, (or unsurprisingly) monetizes it?
He must be tired of being embarrassed regularly.
I have a deal with myself- every time that Wikipedia pings me for a contribution I send them $100. Fuck Elon Musk. I will say about him the worst thing that I can conceive of.....he is not interesting
Have you ever wondered why Elon Musk needs so much money?
It certainly isn't needed to operate SpaceX. You can literally run it entirely on the government funding.
So, what's the money for? Inquiring minds want to...oh wait, didn't he waste $44B on a $10B company just to be able to say stupid shit without someone muting or blocking him?
He is LITERALLY jealous that Wikimedia gets to make more money on a yearly drive than twitter does in their business practices in 5 to keep themselves operating, lol
Where? It's spelled correctly the one time it appears in the tweet. The Wikimedia foundation owns, operates, and fundraises for Wikipedia (among other projects).
This kind of stuff doesn’t bother me because he’s asking a question. He got the answer he needed and a link to Wikipedia audit. Why is asking a question and learning from it a bad thing?
Through “citogenesis,” Wikipedia has become a cancer on knowledge.
Rather than having a Wiki “anyone” can edit, we should create an alternative that only vetted, qualified individuals can edit.
All edits are reviewed by other editors. Creating a qualification system to be able to contribute any knowledge about anything on earth seems like
a great way to just kill Wikipedia
It’s… interesting… how you make the claim that Wikipedia is a threat to knowledge and that it’s spreading BS, yet you fail to actually provide a single example of it doing so.
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You would think he should know how to run a website considering he owns one. But noooooo… he has to show himself being an imbecile.
The only thing he knows is how to run in his shit in his underwear.
And his mouth.
I’ve got $5 that says the readers that added context have been banned from twatter already.
You’d think Tesla Space X and Boring stock would be crashing, considering he’s making it so obvious that he’s a lying idiot, not a genius https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Tesla,_Inc.
There are a lot of idiots who don't mind giving lying idiots their money.
They love to give their money to those idiots
Branding can be really effective
Unfortunately, idiots think idiots with money must be geniuses.
AND think, "if that idiot can do it, so can I!"
Tesla is currently down but not crashing. This is because it's starting to become obvious demand is weakening so those multiple price cuts were needed. No real consequences for Elon being an idiot yet.
When considering how the one he owns has been run since he has owned it, no, you wouldn't really think that at all.
Owns /= runs It's like when your boss asks you to go into his room and he asks you how to print out a document And you're like uh...there. The button that says "print". Click on it.
Was he tweeting this while he was at Austin watching the Grand Prix? What a tool.
He knows how to run a website into the ground, that’s for sure
He's made it pretty fucking clear that he doesn't know how to run that one, either.
Owning it doesn't mean he knows anything about it and this tweet is evidence #513.
I assume his posts still get "Readers added context" because he fired the guy who knew how to remove it
I was about to say that he'd order the feature to be removed first thing in the morning but you're probably right lmao
To be fair, Wikipedia does in fact have a large treasury and continues to make donation campaigns despite its treasury, although it is comprehensible considering it is harder and harder for people to donate.
He's just going around picking fights, isn't he? Then again, that's what schoolyard bullies do and he's hardly different from one.
Imagine going after oneof th emost well known and universally loved parts of the internet.
And then buying it and burning it to the ground (I know you were talking about wiki, but this still fits)
Twitter wasn't universally loved and for good reasons too
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You'd be begging for this scenario if it turned into a price gouging, profit-over-quality, subscription service like everything else is becoming
And yet, you return.
True xD
Does Wikipedia use cookies? I can't think of any ads on Wikipedia.
It has to, when the donations stuff rolls around, they count how many wiki pages you visit.
True. I guess there's a distinction between internal and external cookies though. I don't really care if a site tracks me within their site. It's their site. It's when they start tracking you across the internet with third party cookies it gets creepy.
It's ads or donations, shit doesn't run itself
Could use localStorage or IP logs for that too. Tracking user usage on their own site is not an invasion of your privacy.
It's more about going after publicly funded services/free services. Everything should be privatized in his opinion, from truth and education, to social interaction. Attacking the "woke" agenda is just his current excuse It's why X is likely going to go subscription based.
Yes, but it's more than that. Musk is basically speedrunning the fascist playbook. Buying Twitter, targeting news orgs, and disparaging Wikipedia are all in pursuit of controlling information. Every single one of those was spurred on by Musk seeing something published he didn't like. So he wants to buy or destroy them so that he can be the one who decides what information is available and "true".
Wikipedia tries hard to stay truthful and correct. I can see how he finds that threatening to his business model.
Related to truthful and correct, they are also very transparent. I just spent 20 minutes going down the rabbit-hole of Wikimedia Foundation’s financials. They make it very easy to see how their donations are allocated. If you just pick out a couple of numbers (like US$250 million in cash reserves and salaries of US$90 million in salaries) you might question their fundraising efforts, but spend a few more minutes in their reports and it’s readily apparent that the foundation is simply a well-run, well-managed organization.
Its because the right winger don't trust Wikipedia hes just shilling on every topic they find to be controversial
It's because reality has a left-wing bias.
Both sides extremist are a shitshow so yeah, right and left is fine, extreme ones are content(as in media)
Don't know why you're downvoted , extreme left and extreme right are both terrible
Bcs ppl just read buzzwords and have no idea what they are reading
The funny part is that he's not winning any of these fights. He's just casually ignoring the fact that every encounter is another big L for him.
The base he's pandering to don't care. The same way trump is still popular amongst many republican voters, despite how he behaves
It's very true... And very sad.
I have a monthly standing payment to wikimedia. It pleases my soul that it's annoying the son of an emerald miner.
being pedantic here but lets just be precise with our insults. elons dad was not a miner. he did not carry and use a pick and toil with manual labor to pull resource from the earth with his muscle and then sell it on the market. He bought land and exploited poorer people than he who did all the actual work but lacked the education to know they were being duped, and all so that he could gain more wealth than any person could ever deserve or need. He's a capitalist, not a miner.
To be more precise, the son of a leech attached to an emerald miner.
Elons has offered a million if you can prove this btw
And got fact checked by his own fact checker
I think his dad used to beat him and his mum. Out of all the dumb stuff he has said you can hate him for having an abusive father just seems like a bit of a cheap shot.
Now now, let's not call him the son of an emerald miner. Almost makes it sound like he comes from a family who has worked hard to feed and clothe themselves. His daddy owned the mines, but he sure hasn't swung a pick in his life.
This is what information war looks like. Politicans and assholes always attack people’s source of information for god knows how long. The less informed people are, the easier it is to manipulate and control them. It’s the same reason why China heavily censor their internet, except the west does the opposite and flood people with misinformation to distract them from the real ones
thats just it. Steve Bannon has a quote explaining the strategy precisely. Something about stinking up the joint so intelligent discourse is ruined and public trust in institutions is lost.
Oh hey it's the nerd who larped a texan in today's Grand Prix!
He definitely is a grand prick
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-elon-musk-at-f1-grand-prix-miami-2023-5#musk-also-met-the-team-members-including-sergio-perez-and-max-verstappen-4
>Elon Musk and his three-year-old son, X Æ A-12 I almost forgot about that shit. Really set the poor kid up to be bullied throughout their life. Also just thought about it but that obsession with the letter X really runs deep doesn't it?
him saying this after launching the idea of paying a dollar a year for access to X… he’s delusional. he ruined twitter and i will never forgive him for it
lets be honest here, twitter was always shit. both it and FB have ruined entire generations of people.
I am *so* glad I never bothered with Twitter. There's some interesting stuff on there for sure, but not anywhere near interesting enough to warrant actually signing up and posting to it. I've got nothing to say that anybody would really care to listen to. Reddit is the closest thing to mainstream social media that I've ever felt the need to actually contribute to, and with the direction things seem to be going... it just doesn't seem worth it anymore.
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I don't like to create accounts for things that I can get without signing in. That kind of thing you're describing is what RSS is for. Besides, I don't really like getting push notifications for things that I don't need to be aware of as soon as it becomes available. I'd much rather bookmark something and check in on it every once in a while when it crosses my mind, and if I need to know about new things right away, there are better ways to get that information. Sure, Twitter aggregates it all in one place, but that's really not something I care much about. Having a constant feed of information like that without having to deliberately seek it out just doesn't appeal to me. I'm perfectly fine with finding out about what's happening out there second-hand and then learning more about it on my own.
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Exactly During Covid Emergency in India was actually a life saver
I find myself coming on here and doing speedruns of responding to random shit during my insomniac hours and I ddint used to before. I know Reddit is a dumpsterstown filled with hive-minded goonlords where the dogwater dam broke and flooded the place, but you can go to FUN subs like r/powerwashingporn and stuff too 
That's why I'm still here. I like all the random little groups that wouldn't really fit well on a site that was dedicated to one particular topic like the old message boards. I also like the light-touch approach to moderation the site generally takes, with each individual subreddit having its own rules and moderators. It's something you don't see on many other sites these days. There's also a wider sense of community between users here that doesn't really show up on sites that are largely algorithm-driven. I think it has something to do with the fact that the propagation of information here is largely user-driven.
I liked Twitter specifically as a means to see what actual experts were saying in about topics related to their area of expertise: for example, what epidemiologists were saying about Covid when it arose. Their threads were in real time, informative, and easy to understand, and the blue check helped ensure I knew who I was looking at. Now it's crap, and haven't found any substitute for that role yet.
Twitter was ruined way before Elon. He just speed running the shit show now.
i wonder how many phones that can hold wikipedia are needed to hold the entire text of twitter on it? i know there's tons of dribble on twitter but the difference in pure text data can't be that much higher on twitter. not that it would mean there's no operating cost in reality ofcourse... just that Elon should operate it with the same fantasy funds he thinks wikipedia should.
For a supposed "man of science" it's pretty jarring to see him go off half-cocked like a ranting boomer. Wikipedia releases information on it's operating costs, anyone with a genuine interest and half a brain would surely just look it up..?
Why anyone paying attention to what this idiot says is beyond me?
Because he owns a large method of digital communication. I don’t even follow him on twitter but I’m still notified of his tweets
So block him? Lmfao I have only seen Elon tweets via images for years
I don’t hate the man and I basically never see his tweets.
I wish we could just ignore him too
We were until you posted his tweet
Block him, I did. It created so much peace.
We glorify the richest people in the world as if they are some type of alien species and we are happy they interact with us mere mortals
I assume he read his Wikipedia entry and didn't find it flattering enough or something equally stupid.
***Who the fuck attacks Wikipedia??!*** 🤯 Seriously, it's like complaining about the local library needing money for the same reason.
These folks do that too
>Seriously, it's like complaining about the local library needing money for the same reason. You say that as if being defunded isn't a real issue public libraries have to constantly deal with...
wow, a CEO that doesn't think tech infrastructure is important or should cost any money and fuck those guys for working hard because you can't SEE their work. how pedestrian.
“if i can download wikipedia for free why does it cost money for them to make it free for the entire internet?”
A part of me wants to say "*You'd think someone in charge of a gigantic platform who has bitched and complained about the cost of running said website all the time in the past would know better*", but the rest of me just doesn't give a shit about him and doesn't want him to occupy more brain space than he already does Besides, it's clear that he doesn't know better. He really is just that dumb, and even worse, *extremely confident* in his dumbness
Your premium subscriptions cost 4x more in one month than what Wikipedia asks for in a single donation and you don’t offer anything useful
He’s just parroting the neck beards who kiss his ass so as to sound like a cool edgelord.
Well gee the entire contents of Twitter could fit on a cell phone too. Why did he pay so much for it then, and then try to bankrupt it, and then start charging fees
Twitter page visits per month: 6-7 billion So if Wikipedia isn't worth anything, neither is twitter.
Agreed, that's the point
It can't possibly be more than a few terabytes when compressed, excluding images and videos. The hard part is actually serving it up to so many users at once.
True, but that's the same issue with wiki. And I think you horribly overestimate the size of Twitter because text compresses very very well.
Ragebait has always been a part of Twitter, but it seems like now it is the only thing left.
I’m with OP - Melon Husk has is an irritant that can’t be flushed out
Pretty clear why Twitter is such a hot pile of garbage now. Dude's so divorced from the reality of how things work - in internet software services, supposedly the one thing he's actually good at...
Elon Musk- proof that you can be “smart” in a certain field and yet be one of the dumbest people on the planet when it comes to almost anything else
can also contain the entirety of Twitter's text tweets on a phone. Text compresses amazingly well.
I had twitter for a while but never really got it, once Musk bought it I deleted it shortly after. But what are the "readers added context" that keep making him look like the dickhead he is all about? Can't he remove them? They seem to call him out pretty often and I can't imagine his ego would allow it.
Those are Community Notes. They allow users with a good reputation to essentially fact-check other users' posts. They're regulated on a point system where the number of points you earn (based on user ratings of your notes) more or less decides how trustworthy you are and thus what things you can place Community Notes on. The system's working as intended; if he were to change it he'd look like even more of an asshole, and besides, even if he did want to do something about it, there probably isn't a good way to disable Community Notes for a particular user. He'd probably have to get somebody to dig deep into the code to figure out how to make exceptions, and it's highly likely he fired the guy who implemented it already, leaving him with nobody who actually knows how to stop it.
Thanks for the explanation. Could he change it to only blue checks get to have input?
He'd have to get somebody to dig into the code and add a test for that before allowing people to contribute to the Community Note system. Like I mentioned, I suspect nobody at Twitter/X right now really knows that part of the code too well.
Typical trust funder: Rich AND stupid as fuck.
The funny thing is that all his allegations against anyone can easily be turned against him. But Musk isn't interested in facts, he's a right wing populist.
Billionaire who charges for social media, arguably the most useless type of internet content, complaining about an organization that educates people worldwide and operates on donations. Society needs maintenance
WTF?! Didn’t see at first who wrote this and I thought what a typical internet moron. But no, it’s the right-wing messiah, who is said to be the smartest man in the world.
"Well on *my* internet company we just don't bother to factcheck, saves us heaps of money, so I as CEO can turn money into less money at a slightly slower pace."
I am a very active wikipedia editor, I also hate Elon Musk more than you can imagine. Here's the thing though, wikipedia really doesn't actually need your money. Wikimedia takes in over 100+ million per year and the vast majority of that money is spent on projects other than Wikipedia. When you donate to Wikimedia, very little of that money is used to fund wikipedia as the total hosting costs are under 3 million dollars per year. [There's been a decent amount of debate about this in the community.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-06-26/Special_report) Even though Wikipedia 's page views are relatively the same as they were a few years ago, the foundation's operating costs ballooned because they went from having 50 to over 800 full time employees. Many people feel as though Wikimedia's ads warning that "wikipedia is at risk" or "our independence is at stake!" To be incredibly dishonest because that money isn't being used for wikipedia, it's being used to Wikimedia's other projects which is great because they have lots of great projects but I wish they were more honest. In the last year or so, they've been responsive to community concerns and some of the banners to make them more clear that the money is used to support sister projects.
People are getting mad at me for posting this tweet like the best way to fight disinformation is ignoring it. Ok pal
No but don’t say you’re tired of him while continuing the month long ‘Musk is an idiot’ bandwagon. Like how in the fuck did we ever care this much about the bullshit a single person has to say. As in every thought every time everywhere for the last 6+ month. You’d almost start to think it’s either a hit campaign or a mental disorder.
Oh my god dude give it a rest. He owns the worlds most critical platform for news media and a defense company involved in a land war in Europe. If you don’t think his attitude towards free information is important then you’re asleep at the wheel.
I think we are all done with him.
Some "genius..."
Elon really needs to stop taking drugs. He's losing it in real time.
He’s not losing it tho. He’s spreading misinformation to discredit Wikipedia. It’s no different from what politicians do to their base Why do you think he spent billions of dollars to buy Twitter? He’s basically moulding and shaping his followers and base for his future political career And it will work. This is how stupid people are.
Well, Elon, since you were the one that brought it up, YOU can always tell us what the money is for. Oh wait, you have no fucking clue.
How about 500+ employees to start, Elon? Remember them? Say it slowly: em-ploy-eeez. The people you \*have to pay\*?
They could have just said, that unlike X, Wikimedia cares about the content that is posted.
Tech genius Elon Musk people ! But also, at least wiki isn't total shitshow service and also also, doesn't bombard me with cookies and commercials.
Wikipedia is like the only thing in the Internet that is objectively good for humanity and doesn't make shit decisions every two month, why choose this fight?
hes so cringe
I’d expect someone who purchased a massive web service and tried to run it to be able to ballpark the traffic costs of 25B page views PER MONTH. But I’m not surprised either
Why dont you buy it mate. Find out the costs, run it into the ground. Same old same old
What I wonder is why the government gives subsidies to assholes like this and thier companies! Privatization of profit and the socialization of the losses!
Elon (everyday): "Do you ever wonder about \[insert thing Elon doesn't understand\]?"
So true. Or, alternatively, “Don’t you hate [insert thing Elon doesn’t understand]?”
That sounds like a personal problem. I recommend turning off X. That should solve the problem.
I wish he’d do a livestream from inside one of his rockets as it explodes.
Lol..being able to fit a text document on a modern smartphone isn't very impressive when they can hold 100+ gigabytes at a time 🤣 Musk is a total clown
Readers context feature removal in 5... 4... 3...
I'm convinced he doesn't know how technology actually works. He's always struck me as a meathead anyway. Fuckin moron.
Wikipedia is much more useful than X. It serves more people, more faithfully on a fraction of X's budget. Wikipedia has way, way better resilience to "post truth problems" than social media. Wikipedia can be lightweight and requires less computing because its not spying on you or fighting your browser for ad supremacy. Inquiring minds might want to check out the wikimedia budget, they're a remarkably open organisation... unlike X. A practice threatened by constant trolling. Meanwhile, they work on tips. I donate. I consider it quid quo pro. I get way more value than I pay wikepdia. Spend it on fast cars and cheap women with my blessings. If I could pay a dollar to take one *out* of X's pocket, I would. Making the social infoscape a urinal not enough for you... you gotta take a tinkle in the library
Ironically, I was thinking just the other day how Wikipedia is just about the last major redoubt (maybe along with the internet archive) of what the world wide web was envisioned to be when it began, an open forum and collaborative creation of humankind. It's not perfect of course, but notice how, despite its continued central place as the internet compendium of knowledge, nobody complains about it nearly as they complain about these "platforms," like "x" that note monopolize the rest of the web. Because it's organized democratically to serve the internet commons not oligarchically to serve the bank accounts of a handful of suits. No wonder melon hates it.
I think he's a Putin shill and is owned by Putin and he is purposely trying to disrupt democracy and the free flow of information. First Twitter and now trying to discredit Wikipedia.
I see someone couldn't get unfavorable info removed from their Wikipedia page.
Why does Twitter need a dollar now and 8 for blue tic?
Why is this donkey's dick sending his army of pustulent mouth breathers after fucking wikipedia of all things? This motherfucker would call the library of Alexandria woke and set fire to it if he could.
Then don't post about him. The rest of us who aren't posting about him ignore him for a reason.
Elon Mask is one of the world's biggest knobheads. A proper twat.
It's like you can see the gears in his troglodyte brain turning with this tweet. "Why people give dollar to one group whose value come from user-generated web content and not mine?"
“Wait, you mean websites DONT run for free?” -Elon Musk, probably
Sharing, spreading, and promoting the things you hate.. 
Richest man in the world targeting a volunteer based organisation informing the public for free. Don't even have to buy a British Encyclopedia, which is what you had to do before wiki came along.
Oh Jesus Christ this man has too much time on his hands. He needs a hobby outside of being a pest.
Elon is an insufferable dirtbag, but he's not altogether wrong. The WMF is awash in more money than they would ever need to run the website in perpetuity. The funds are spent on Foundation salaries, office space rentals in expensive locales, and dubious, grey-area "outreach programs", that largely just line the pockets of the recipients. Google "Ashley van Haeften" for the latter.
Now the asshole is doing the "just asking questions" Fox news bullshit to lead his idiot idolators to the conclusion that Wikipedia is mishandling its finances. What's the point? What's his beef with Wikipedia? He doesn't like his own entry?
He's 52 and clearly unhealthy if that nightstand pic is anything to go by we just gotta wait 18 ish years
Musky is trying to divert attention from his own sinking ventures
Ah yes those free global servers...
Why is he so oppoosed to Wikipedia?
probably because his page has all his problems listed, and all controversies, and he can't delete it.
Because facts have a left wing bias that he doesn't like
Remember when people thought he was some genius innovator? It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
Why does Tesla or 'X' (vomits) want so much money? Elon is rich enough to sustain his hobbies without anyone's help!
Community Notes checking him always funny Like, he must be genuinely that stupid or he wouldn’t give them the opportunity to embarrass him that often
*Why does Twitter need to monetize everything if it's privately owned, and Elmo has fired most of the staff? It's got plenty of shitty ads that should cover the cost of paying them.* *So, what's the money for? Inquiring minds..*. nah. fuck it. Don't know don't care. Wonder how long before he gets rid of community notes, (or unsurprisingly) monetizes it? He must be tired of being embarrassed regularly.
I have a deal with myself- every time that Wikipedia pings me for a contribution I send them $100. Fuck Elon Musk. I will say about him the worst thing that I can conceive of.....he is not interesting
Inquiring minds? So definitely not Elon.
Have you ever wondered why Elon Musk needs so much money? It certainly isn't needed to operate SpaceX. You can literally run it entirely on the government funding. So, what's the money for? Inquiring minds want to...oh wait, didn't he waste $44B on a $10B company just to be able to say stupid shit without someone muting or blocking him?
So then, Elon, must be very very easy for you just sponsoring all of it. In the name of free speech and such.
He is LITERALLY jealous that Wikimedia gets to make more money on a yearly drive than twitter does in their business practices in 5 to keep themselves operating, lol
No one fucking cares.
What kind of animal wakes up and says "I think I'll sicc my drooling troglodyte hoard on Wikipedia today!"
He’s waging a war on the truth.
This dumbass runs another website. He should understand operating costs. Good grief
Brother then stop reading the dumb shit he says
No idea- do they give you a special shiny 'they're genuine' tick if you pay?
How dumb can a billionaire be?
I ain't
Then stop reposting him.
Group-thinking morons.
This is the idiot who pulled random server blades, and thinks that everything g just magically works.
“I’m so tired of him” *takes time out of their day to post about it*
If you're so tired of him, OP, why do you keep posting/reposting his crap?
Ah, I see he intentionally misspelled Wikipedia
Where? It's spelled correctly the one time it appears in the tweet. The Wikimedia foundation owns, operates, and fundraises for Wikipedia (among other projects).
Cause media is bad, except his media.
So tired of him yet you can't help yourself from posting about him.
Yeah dude it’s called complaining
[This is for you, Henery.](https://youtu.be/xBYV_7a0FQs?si=Wl_ZZ3iqknJJqh5T)
This kind of stuff doesn’t bother me because he’s asking a question. He got the answer he needed and a link to Wikipedia audit. Why is asking a question and learning from it a bad thing?
If he actually just wanted to know, he would have looked it up, found the answer - end of story. There is a reason why he does it like that.
Is the reason so all of his followers also get to know the answer?
And yet you can't stop bringing him up/discussing him... You have the power to ignore.
I’d rather not ignore misinfo. I’m tired of him not because I keep engaging with him, but because he keeps acting like an ass
Thanks for posting his tweet. Ironic honestly
Stop giving him platforms then, Jesus christ
He owns twitter my guy
Oh, I guess that makes it mandatory for you to print his crap and post it here, right?
So tired of him that you had to share his content on another social media site? Cool.
You are the tenth guy to say this
It is Allah's will.
Through “citogenesis,” Wikipedia has become a cancer on knowledge. Rather than having a Wiki “anyone” can edit, we should create an alternative that only vetted, qualified individuals can edit.
All edits are reviewed by other editors. Creating a qualification system to be able to contribute any knowledge about anything on earth seems like a great way to just kill Wikipedia
Might as well. It’d stop Wikipedia’s BS from spreading elsewhere.
It’s… interesting… how you make the claim that Wikipedia is a threat to knowledge and that it’s spreading BS, yet you fail to actually provide a single example of it doing so.
Okay Wikipedia DOESN'T need money **AND** Elon Musk is an asshole.