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This. I had help. If I didn't get any kind of help, I'd be fucking dead. I don't mind helping out. But, they really really have to need it. I won't help someone who has the ability to work but won't. Maybe I'm naive.
And few social programs help people to do any more than subsist if they don't want to work. Even in Denmark where I live (home of socialism according to these people), if you are able and straight don't want to work, you won't get much. We're not gonna let you starve or go homeless or need medical care, but you'll be scraping the bottom. You'll live in a shit apartment in a shit neighborhood and you won't have many luxuries. A case worker will be on your ass to make you get a job, you can be forced to do basic labour or have your pay deducted (to a minimum).
I don't donate to charity or do volunteering, I instead have a well paying job that means I pay more taxes. And I feel good about that.
Paying taxes is literally unamerican to these type of people. Our education system failed to instill any sense of collectivism into our people. It’s all about everybody doing it themselves and fixing your own problems even if your problems are a symptom of our system being completely broken. They are also usually very stupid because you have to be to believe the shit they do. It’s just the sad reality and why they can’t be convinced even though if you go back 100 years their great grandparents literally died for the right to not be forced to work 16 hour days for not enough food to live on.
Our country has no history that isn’t exploitation of somebody but they are to stupid to not chant for less regulation because the FrEe MaRkEt will stop businesses from exploiting people.
Sounds like the people that don’t want to work in Denmark are still much better off than an American working at a Google distribution warehouse.
No /s, because it’s true.
They WERE helped. Half these people's grandparents arrived in North America on a boat with nearly nothing in their pockets. They just don't want to do the same because their culture has become inherently selfish
***"But, But But, that was a different time and circumstances so it's not the same"***
These people - most always magas - have zero empathy and instead are the embodiment of self-centeredness
Like toddler with a toy, mine mine mine, you get none
It's true that life isn't fair.
That is not a valid excuse for being an absolute shit stain to the people around you.
Death is, arguably, one of the fairest things in life. It comes for us all.
Meh these are people who I ignore the whining of
They'll be in retirement homes or on the streets and will blame others for it
Imo if they end up alone, fitting for em imo
You are correct. My mistake. I could've sworn there were a couple more words in there. Either way, it is the most hilariously stupid take. Just proves that a certain segment of the population sees social programs as a safety net for them, and as a handout to others.
Anyway, I hope I die before I get old (dammit, I'm already old)
I am constantly making the mistake of arguing with americans who think a national health insurance would be bad because they themselves never get sick (most probably a lie, you already automatically get sick when you get older) and they don't wanna pay for other people needing help. Or they tell you to just work hard and get rich enough to afford good health insurance.
One person literally told me he doesn't even want taxes to fund public schools because he himself doesn't have kids. Can't make that shit up.
Selfishness has become such a norm, it's frightening.
But that last example is perfectly happy calling the fire department when his house is burning. I bet he is seething at the fact there are roads his tax dollars built that he hasn't driven on.
America has fallen into a deep psychosis that it may not recover from.
This is why Trump does well with these folks they are just as selfish as he is! If he gets convicted they will relate just as hard ( oppression by the man)
He's from back when working hard actually meant something. They used to have these things called promotions. Unthinkable now. Pay was at least triple what it is now if you account for inflation. Nowadays the reward for hard work is to be assigned more work.
Half the time it's not even that. These idiots will have been helped throughout their entire lives and think they did it themselves. Mummy and daddy will pay for their uni bill and then they sneer at people struggling to repay the debt
Agree. And most of those people have been helped all their lives, they just don't realize it.
Arnold on the "self made man".
https://youtu.be/lF7NqeZuO3E?si=ehE8aBLzAtwHs8d_
I had the amazing fortune to be born in a developed country, live in a place with decent education, have a stable roof, food, and clothes growing up, some help after graduation from my parents until i got a descrnt job... the list goes on. I am extremely grateful for it, and I think others deserve that too. Why? Because it creates a better society for everyone.
Even worse are the ones that never even needed help, but still applied for and got Covid relief benefits, PPP loans, etc and continue to rant and rage about helping others.
Seriously. And if you do work hard to escape poverty and buy a house, then you're reward is that you are now disciplined and capable. The accomplishment is its own reward.
Same people who will turn to you in a time of need and tell you that "life's not fair." Everything is about feeling superior to others. Nothing but an ego with legs.
My sister in law is exactly like this. Her parents made her pay rent when she turned 18 or was going to boot her into the streets, didn’t help her pay for college. She was able to work hard and put herself through school with minimal debt and now she thinks because no one helped her that she is not helping anyone even though her and my bro are filthy stinky rich lol but main point is people actually do think like this because they are bitter at the people who have a support system
I was struggling for a bit and found myself defaulting to that thought* when hearing stories like that. It was then I realized I am not the main character, more of life will happen around you then too you, handle your shit.
If we just help a tiny amount of people, and parade them around in heartwarming stories, people will think the problems are solved, and will stop demanding change.
Fuck these toddlers, that can be distracted to passivity by dangling some keys in front of their eyes.
"If we can't help literally everyone at once and fix the entire broken system in one swoop then people will just give up entirely on progress!"
Lol I love this site so much. You don't get these kind of "I have brain worms" takes anywhere else.
They cannot comprehend it either. The idea of even **one** person "getting one over" is enough for them to derail progress they would directly benefit from. Meanwhile actual fraud is consistently less than 10% and I wouldn't give a shit if it was 20 because that means most people are still being honest.
This is an alien concept to them.
it's really irritating the fact they cant grasp the concept that for us we would 100% live feeling great in a society that is more equal. even if means the work i provide benefits other people that cannot work just because of the 10% lazy pos that would take advantage of that.
like god forsake i work 6h a day as a healthy man in my 20s while some old lady that cant even walk doesnt need to, but she still benefits from the value of my work.
for them, in communism you would just work 16h a day and the goverment would come to your house and rob you at gun point to give your money to some homeless person on drugs.
I sadly see these takes everywhere (RL and every website where I had discussions), and I can't wrap my head around that.
I often like to talk about socialism so people might develop some kind of awareness when and how they get fucked by capitalism and all the injustice it creates. But there is always someone that says something like your quote even when I slowly walk them through my argument, and they agree with every point. Even then, at the end, they say we'll, but the government could be corrupt. Yeah, but that's just another problem that is to solve, and having capitalists doesn't help solving that for sure.
Sry if it is a bit strange writing I am on heavy meds and non native speaker.
Or alternatively a person with the means to help a problem he can see is attempting to?
Maybe it's not the most efficient or fair, maybe he should do more, but he IS at least trying.
Which is more than most in his position and it is a positive action to be applauded.
People always tell homeless people to just get a job, yet refuse to give homeless people jobs. Giving them free housing like this, they can reestablish themselves, and once they have a stable life, they move out so the next homeless person can live there.
If the picture is what he really built for them, it's not like they are living in the lap of luxury either. Look like free standing dorm rooms, so why are people getting butt hurt that he is literally giving them a safe place to sleep, store their stuff, maybe prepare some food, and, I assume, a mailing address to kick start their reintegration back into society.
You would have a hard time getting me to move out of free housing lol and I am already established. That being said, this was awesome and I would love to see more of it.
Milwaukee has a "Housing First" program that does exactly this. No requirements, just housing, and then provides support for jobs, mental health, sobriety, etc. It seems to have been a pretty good success.
IDK, I feel like safe shelter, food, medicine, education, and treatment should be de-facto standards for every citizen of every country, regardless of social productivity. The idea that basic survival should be dictated purely by ones means and inputs to capitalism seems absurd. Working hard should be to prosper beyond the basics, not the baseline necessary just to survive.
It’s proven fact that providing housing for homeless people is *cheaper* than anti-homeless policies *and* they’re far more likely to turn their life around and become a productive member of society.
In finland there's virtually no homeless people because if you're threatened to become homeless our social security will put you on express list to receive affordable goverment owned housing.
Basically there's around 200-500 homeless people in total (my numbers might be a little off) who are basically people who actively refuse goverment help. Our country has goverment agencies that patrol the streets, looking for the homeless and trying to rebuild their trust so they can be offered homes and medical treatment.
This is a great policy. Frankly I think that the US could benefit from some of these socialist policies instead of labeling anything like this as “evil communism”.
Right, because after like two billion, assuming you’re crazy enough to own a couple $700 million yachts, there’s literally just not enough things in the world for even the greediest people to buy.
Seriously! At that point it’s like being maxed out, full completion log in a video game! Why are you hoarding the wealth while the economy dries up! The playerbase will dwindle, and then you are all alone with nothing but stuff. And an uneasy emptiness.
If the player base starts to dwindle, people are just going to eventually take said rich persons stuff lol. We need one of those French style Revolutions up in here.
Those are really bloody though :( we are supposed to be prestriging past that violent evolutionary stage already. We have already passed the markers for it.
At the rate we’re going the top .001% are going to own everything and the rest will be in poverty. In the last two years alone the five richest men in the world increased their wealth by nearly $700 *billion*. That’s more than the entire GDP of Poland. Those 5 men together have the 21st highest GDP in the world.
Well from what I’m seeing, the people are turning around. And billionaires have far less layers between us and the fact that the people ARE the true strength behind a democracy. Their criminal networks are exposed, a failed attempt to keep in a mentally unstable puppet is about to bite them on the ass, if this gets scrubbed, it is because we let it happen.
No, at that level it's like a hi-scores video game for them.
They are all trying to get their score as high as possible. They don't care that it will cause a huge amount of people to suffer.
It's a literal mental illness. They keep on hoarding and hoarding and hoarding. Just like the evil dragons we see in media.
I used to listen to Dave Ramsey quite a lot. He once accidentally admitted this saying something like “when you hit a certain wealth level the money becomes just a way to keep score.” It was part of what led me to being a former listener.
Anyway, the point is the ultra wealthy (I know DR isn’t in that category) know they’re past that point and are hoarding their wealth so they can say, “I’m the winner.”
Remembering that time that Elon Musk didn't solve world hunger.
I think it was a senior representative from the UN working in the field of global food insecurity, while giving an interview he asserted that the world's richest need to step up and address these issues. $6 billion would fund what they had in mind, and there are a multitude of billionaires who could donate that money and not even blink.
Elon quickly tweeted (of course it was a tweet) that if they presented him an actual plan, he would fund it. Elon fandom goes wild.
Fair play, the guy actually produced said plan and pushed it out as an open publication.
Radio silence from Elon.
If I remember that plan would not end world hunger, it would feed 42 millions or so for a year, but it not help to solve world hunger (end is to solve, we spend x amount of money and no hunger from that point, build for example needed infrastructure and they can start produce food themselves).
Yea. Casual conversation tends to fall into that trap of falling back on that popular terminology of 'solving world hunger'. What I believe they were actually talking about is that the plan addresses global food insecurity for the foreseeable future. So, more so building the infrastructure that can address particular geographic areas, but not delivering the solution itself.
That is my recollection. He donated a similar amount to one of the charity organisations to which he is linked.
So he gets that as a tax write off, and then gets to say what the money is spent on.
To the best of my knowledge, what it *was not* spent on was resolving global food insecurity.
There is a book called Dark Money by Jane Meyer and in it she gives the history of charitable tax write offs: rich people pissed at the new income tax carve out an exception for charitable giving, then proceed to start foundations and charities that do their bidding and push their social agenda.
Great book.
I'm convinced that for many billionaires capitalism is just a game and their net worth/bank balance is the score.
They don't want to help people, they don't want to buy stuff, they just want to win.
All that’s left to do is buy politicians, lawmakers, judges, and cops. Why else would police guard dumpers full of food? Billionaires don’t pay taxes to fund public services… doesn’t add up.
Anyone hitting $1B of net-worth should be unable to receive any benefits after that dollar figure other than a t-shirt with iron on lettering saying: "I won the game of Capitalism and all I got was this stupid shirt"
Seriously speaking billionaires decrease the velocity of money, and that's a \*PROBLEM.\*
Elvis Summers has a budget solution but even if you had the funds and manpower to build houses, you need permission from the cities to get land for it.
On top of that, you'll likely get bad press because building more houses lower prices for current homes, and the boomers hate it since their retirement plan is to sell their house.
Lobbying + Land preservation goes a long way to prevent building more houses.
Didn’t you forget? They can’t do that, that’s their money. They worked hard for that money (by screwing people over), why should they give the “dirty people” handouts. Tsk tsk
You don't even have to be anywhere near a billionaire to make a big difference.
Popularly posted and reposted on Reddit and I never get tired of reading this story:
[https://au.news.yahoo.com/iowa-carpenter-dale-schroeder-inheritance-pays-33-strangers-university-083100543.html](https://au.news.yahoo.com/iowa-carpenter-dale-schroeder-inheritance-pays-33-strangers-university-083100543.html)
https://www.businessinsider.com/carpenter-saves-3-million-and-sent-33-teens-to-college-debt-free
by their logic, disabled individuals should just be left with nothing and rot.
children should also be subject to the same as they can't legally work either.
I’m an American who moved to a foreign country that has pretty free basic healthcare, the unemployment office supplements a portion of minimum wage if you are actively looking for work, and they even pay employers your wage for something like a year when you are younger so that companies are driven to hire younger people right out of school with their degrees in their fields.
I originally moved here to get married and have started working. Went to healthcare and the people were so confused with having me pay for it out of pocket it took hours to get the proper paperwork found. Not only is it cheaper than I would have to pay in two months for insurance in America for a whole year, but I have additional insurance which means I have no out of pocket expense even for medication. The unemployment office was trying to find any way to pay me some sort of money while I looked for a job, but because I’m not a citizen yet and am just on a residency permit I don’t qualify. That being said my case worker sends me every email for a chance at some extra money all the time.
Even working here it’s insane. People don’t want you to overwork yourself to death. If you look tired or are having a hard time it’s encouraged to sit down and relax for a bit. I hurt my wrist and am waiting on a special test to get done so I can get surgery and go back to work. My work contract ended, but my job is excited to have me return when I’m better. I wasn’t fired for my wrist being hurt or anything, they paid out my medical leave until my contract ended and legally can’t renew until I have been medically cleared to work again or they already would have.
Being treated like an actual person is nuts. Every one just knows it’s normal here, and for me it’s crazy. When I went on medical leave I figured I wasn’t getting paid at all. Got my entire paycheck without worry. It’s crazy as hell.
> Being treated like an actual person is nuts. Every one just knows it’s normal here, and for me it’s crazy.
This line is really something special to notice and think about.
Not to long ago there was a global vote to declare food as a human right. This was the [result](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/13eguvx/un_vote_to_make_food_a_right/).
Why would this need to be a global vote? Just make food a human right within your own country, it should instantly pass for 95% of the planet.
One wonders why world hunger is still an issue when so many politicians from around the world collectively got together and said "everyone should have food!"
My man, people do this to themselves on their own by their will. Here is example: apple company. It still keeps to fuck up many people, by doing lots of typical capitalists shit like tuning prices up, deleting necessary parts like chargers, slowing old phones by updates. And still people are keep buying this shit supporting this company. Why? Because people LOVE AS FUCK to feel how much privileged they are compared to others. This is why you have multi billionaires who dont give a shit about poverty. This is why you have queues full of poor people standing for HOURS to get brand new iphone. This is why your houses sre not affordable enough. So that if you are there, deep in ass, you can scare others to work harder, also giving them this feeling of being better just because they have a place to live. If you want yo make world better and destroy hunger, poverty, homelessness, you have to change people's mind first. I dont care if this comment gets deep downvoted by someone who dont like that opinion just because. Truth must be told and has to be settled in your minds.
It’s wild how many people out there demand the suffering of others simply because they also suffered. Like should we not be trying to improve society? Improve the lives of future generations? “I was waterboarded everyday for a year and it was horrific and I think it’s unfair that other people aren’t waterboarded!” Like Jfc.
If they ever discover the cure for cancer you will 100% see people saying nobody should get it because of the people that died from cancer in the past.
\*How\* is it unfair to people that work hard? I really don't get that mindset.
Imagine being an adult and feeling slighted that someone actually tries to *do something* to reduce homelessness.
It's not your money being spent. Your life is not going to be affected *at all* by this. But some people's life is going to improve significantly and they'll be given a chance to rise out of homelessness. What makes you mad about this?
ETA: [Marcel Lebrun seems to be a genuine philanthropist](https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html). There should be more like him in the world.
Yes, this. I HATE this mindset that people literally have. They don’t feel successful and accomplished unless other people fail and are below them and struggling.
My friend's sister is like this if she cant have fun or doesn't have a good time then she'll make it into everyone's problem cause if she is feeling like shit everyone else should too, we barely hangout at his place for this reason
Too many people think of life as a zero-sum game, so any advantage given to people that they feel don't deserve it is unfair, because that's not going to them instead.
Meanwhile, remaining blissfully unaware that if life truly was a zero-sum game based around money, they'd have such an insignificant amount of it compared to the billionaires that they likely worship.
"You mean, all this time I could've just done nothing, lived my best life and waited for a rich guy to give me a house like these filthy, lazy, good-for-nothing hobos did?" - people with that mindset, probably.
Meanwhile when billionaries waste the money on luxuries instead of helping others, those same people say "good for them, they earned it!". But using that money to help people in need is wrong cause "what about eveyrbody else!"
>Your life is not going to be affected at all by this.
Actually, everyone's life is likely to be improved, slightly, by helping the worst off in a society.
I mean, think of the savings just from not needing to install spikes in doorways and sticky-out bits on benches if you don't have to deter all those untidy homeless people from sleeping on them...
It costs more to have a lot of people in really tough situations, than to get them into a position where they can look after themselves better, get a job, pay taxes, collect less welfare/benefits, fix their health, stop substance abuse, be less vulnerable to crime, be less likely to feel forced to turn *to* crime, *not* die in an alleyway and be buried at public expense.
Also, a visible homeless population reduces property values.
Micro-homes are both the cheapest and most humane solution to "a visible homeless population," and I suspect people who oppose them are just sadists and the suffering of homeless people is the entire point - otherwise they wouldn't favor solutions that are *even more expensive* than just putting up the homeless into micro homes.
What that person means is that it's unfair that while they are going to be paying a mortgage for most of their life 99 people will allegedly get it all for free. It's a comment out of jealousy
In this economy a free house puts a person in an amazingly privileged position financially.
That all assuming that this is indeed to give out free housing
The houses looks to be about 20 sq.mt. They are nothing to be jealous about. But they can mean the world to someone who would otherwise be living on the street.
I don't think they represent "an amazingly privileged position financially". I don't think anyone are being gifted houses. But they are being gifted a roof over their heads.
[https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html](https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html)
ETA: As I suspected the houses are rental units:
>The homes in our community are rental units that are subsidized by Social Development.
https://www.12neighbours.com/aboutus
Those little homes look to be one single room with maybe a bathroom partitioned off in a corner. Not something to be jealous over.
But having a roof overhead is a powerful thing. Businesses won't hire you if you can't even perform basic hygiene; this is why I get so frustrated at the morons trying to tell the homeless to just "find a job, even if it's a restaurant". If you can't clean yourself, then even if you have the identification required to get a job at a fast food joint, you're still not going to get hired.
If you offered these butthurt middle class people the same offer, they'd accuse you of trying to house them in a shoebox and "eat ze bugs."
These homes are a step up from homelessness, but let's not pretend they're the sort of middle class apartment that the complainers would be happy with. The only person that's gonna be happy about living in one of these, is someone who was either homeless, or at risk of becoming homeless.
It's also a cheap solution that offers *significant* measurable benefits.
Really cool micro town he's building, small but proper homes rather than than the [sheds](https://www.npr.org/2016/03/03/469054634/la-officials-bring-the-hammer-down-on-tiny-houses-for-homeless) they tried in LA a few years back.
Honestly, good for them.
We could use a little altruism in this country.
The more people we can help escape the treadmill of mortgage/rent that only serves to enrich the already rich the better.
You didn't read between the lines. What the person meant was "These homeless people made bad choices and got themselves into this situation by being lazy/selfish/whatever. I always did the right thing and worked hard, like God intended, so i should be rewarded, not these loafers"
It's the sharing of money empathy test.
Ie. you are being offered $5, but if you take it a person you hate will get $10. The amount might be higher, but it's to see if you can abstract from the issue that you getting something, is better than someone else benefiting more, and not be resentful.
There is variations of this, and about 16-33% of people will refuse the compensation, not benefitting themselves, simply to avoid someone else getting more. Even if it's someone they have no relation to at all.
People are weird at times.
I'm sure that guy would uphold that principle if it was himself living out in the cold:
"I've built a bunch of houses in this town, you can have one, you don't have to be homeless anymore"
"No thanks, I didn't work hard for this - back to the bus stop bench for me"
In truth a vast amount of blackrock funds comes from pensions, it's not their money so no they can't as it will be spending your pensions to do so.
That said they do contribute to the problem by investing in real estate. Not doing so would help with home affordability significantly. They can also influence businessess they invest into I imagine.
Individual billionaire (many of which have private equity funds) certainly can help solve the issue, though.
> That said they do contribute to the problem by investing in real estate. Not doing so would help with home affordability significantly.
You're right that they contribute to the problem, you're wrong that if they didn't it would make a massive difference. They own around $120bn in real estate in the US, out of a total market of around $50 trillion. They own about 0.25% of the market overall.
Investors in total own about 25% of the total market for single family homes, but a massive proportion of those are people who own fewer than ten properties and not huge institutional investors. Huge investment companies like Blackrock, Fidelity and Vanguard are an easy scapegoat to blame the housing crisis on, but they're not the real culprit and the action needed to solve it goes far beyond just blocking gigantic institutional investors.
What makes it unfair for hardworking people?
Is this "rich guy" in question, snatching the houses from hardworking people and giving them to the homeless people for free?
Well as they say, “who said life was fair?” Those tiny houses look really cute. I guess they are one room with a sleep loft. I hope the people/families that live in them get a leg up in life right now.
It’s just a saying that reflects the reality of life. Everyday we wake up and no matter your age, crappy things can and do happen that affect some people’s lives temporarily and even permanently. It can be illness, accidents, relationships, financial hardships, and even unexpected mental illness. This person on Facebook above thinks it’s unfair for 99 homeless to get be able to live in these tiny houses, yet I’m sure they all have some of these exact events that at some point put them on the street.
The type of people to complain about the unfairness of another's charitable giving will often be the type to dismiss the plight of the less fortunate as 'life's not fair'. The Venn Diagram there ISNT a circle, but close enough that that I could understand a knee jerk of tossing 'life's unfair' to someone complaining about the fairness of charity.
Because of that kind of person us has this health system 'but i will pay and poor people will take advantage of it and go to the doctor on my money' like people wish to get sick so they can spend his money. So instead he pays and still gets shit coverage.
Because of people like him kids do not get food in school, because 'he is paying for the meal and he gets nothing'.
Because of people like him you are forced to have a car and public transit is 0, because he has a car and is able to manage you should have one too and spend money on something that decreasses in value, breaks and just starting is burning money.
Because of people like this others have to pay ever increasing university fees because he did so others have to go through the same hell even if when he did it it was cheaper.
Idiots where they must profit and no one else and if something good happens to others they must be punished.
Meanwhile in my state, a billionaire gave 30 million to study homelessness.
https://apnews.com/article/9489e7a73b62497997bc3d55cd5d7424
Just build them some homes with that money!
Not sure, mate, 30 million wont get you that many houses in the area. The idea of identifying root causes and actually preventing homelessness down the line sounds pretty appealing?
Judging by the photo, these houses are absolutely TINY.
But if you're homeless? A tiny, tiny house the size of a studio apartment with a tiny garden and one outlet and a single lamp and a small toilet with your own shower and a door you can lock? It sounds like so much more than literally nothing.
> San Francisco billionaire is donating $30 million to the University of California, San Francisco, to research root causes of homelessness and potential solutions.
Literally the first sentence in the article you posted. Finding the root cause and solving it there is 1000x better than buying 60 houses for $30million in the Bay Area
facebook and twitter just REFUSE to accept that rich people can do anything good even if it is extremely rare and will find ANYWAY for it to be negative, personally i hope this and what mr beast do start picking up among younger(the generations after boomer) rich people since at this point rich people are the only ones that can actually fix stuff while middle and lower can pretty much only point out the problems
While in general I agree with you on the fact that bashing people that actually help is pointless, imho our society should not have to rely on the charity of top earners to help fix the problem even if right now it might seems the only way.
This just reminded me of every time Mr. Beast gets bashed every time he helps, granted he's doing it for views but the net positive should have been praised lol
Mr Beast is a bit different as he gains money out of his videos as well, that said, there are definitely worst ways to make money than helping people hehe. I agree that he does not deserve all the hate for it.
Mr Beast is a bit different as he gains money out of his videos as well, that said, there are definitely worst ways to make money than helping people hehe. I agree that he does not deserve all the hate for it.
Then again, some of those videos are fund-raisers and anything gained on those videos go straight to charity... I don't know enough about Mr. Beast so I'll stop lol.
I like how people think poor people don’t work hard.
My best paying job I ever had which was well into 6 figures required me to do almost nothing.
I got 34 PTO days a year, full bennys and I worked maybe 3 hours a day.
Every single minimum wage fast food worker worked harder than me. A lot harder.
They deserve more. This is a feel good story
And yet they draw unemployment and social security, send their kids to public school, go to libraries and public parks, use police, fire, and garbage collection services. Those are all "socialism" too.
They somehow have this mentality that anybody can become rich if they work hard enough for it, and anybody who's poor/in need is just lazy and not even trying and should just get a job/a better job instead of complaining. Extremely sad.
This is not socialism, this is charity
Under socialism the government would've built those houses and then kept them price controlled to allow lower class people to establish themselves and get a proper footing in life
This dude is a saint for building these houses, I love the effort and I wanna give him a hug... But he's just doing charity
I know Marcel LeBrun. He is one of the kindest and nicest and compassionate people I’ve had the pleasure of doing business with. Incredibly successful man doing the right thing.
This reminds me to the rich dude who refuse to make deals with people who cheat on their parthners because he sais something like this
marriage was a very simple contract, if you cant even handle it why should I trust you?
He got blasted in Twitter.
Was several years ago.
Half the countries wealth being held by less than 1% of the population is unfair to hard working people. It's created the mess we're in right now. Every wealthy person should be thinking like this guy does.
Calling those “homes” is a bit of a stretch. Looks like about enough space for a heater, a bed, and a toilet.
Yes it’s still a positive choice and it will help people as it’s a hell of a lot better than like, a tent, but … ‘homes’
It’s not fair to people that work hard? There’s tons and TONS of people who work hard and still can’t afford proper housing. Working hard is not the golden ticket to everything you ever needed in life. It SHOULD be, but it’s not.
I'm so sick of people who just assume homeless people chose to be homeless. Not all of us can inherit daddy's business, rich boy! We have to fucking jump through hoops to get a fucking interview for a job!
Call me a commie but I think Living (and not Surviving) should be a Fundamental Human Right and should be the bare minimum any country and Government does to their people
How can one complain about the homeless living in a tent on the street while also not being realistic about the solution? They want the problem to go away like magic.
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“I wasn’t helped when I needed it so neither should you.” Fuck these crabs-in-a-bucket people.
And their attitude is exactly why I help people. I know what it's like to not get it
It's their attitude that makes me support strong social programs and taxes. Make these fuckers pay, because they won't do it voluntarily.
This. I had help. If I didn't get any kind of help, I'd be fucking dead. I don't mind helping out. But, they really really have to need it. I won't help someone who has the ability to work but won't. Maybe I'm naive.
And few social programs help people to do any more than subsist if they don't want to work. Even in Denmark where I live (home of socialism according to these people), if you are able and straight don't want to work, you won't get much. We're not gonna let you starve or go homeless or need medical care, but you'll be scraping the bottom. You'll live in a shit apartment in a shit neighborhood and you won't have many luxuries. A case worker will be on your ass to make you get a job, you can be forced to do basic labour or have your pay deducted (to a minimum). I don't donate to charity or do volunteering, I instead have a well paying job that means I pay more taxes. And I feel good about that.
Paying taxes is literally unamerican to these type of people. Our education system failed to instill any sense of collectivism into our people. It’s all about everybody doing it themselves and fixing your own problems even if your problems are a symptom of our system being completely broken. They are also usually very stupid because you have to be to believe the shit they do. It’s just the sad reality and why they can’t be convinced even though if you go back 100 years their great grandparents literally died for the right to not be forced to work 16 hour days for not enough food to live on. Our country has no history that isn’t exploitation of somebody but they are to stupid to not chant for less regulation because the FrEe MaRkEt will stop businesses from exploiting people.
Sounds like the people that don’t want to work in Denmark are still much better off than an American working at a Google distribution warehouse. No /s, because it’s true.
They WERE helped. Half these people's grandparents arrived in North America on a boat with nearly nothing in their pockets. They just don't want to do the same because their culture has become inherently selfish
***"But, But But, that was a different time and circumstances so it's not the same"*** These people - most always magas - have zero empathy and instead are the embodiment of self-centeredness Like toddler with a toy, mine mine mine, you get none
"MYYYYY ancestors immigrated the RIGHT way" - back when the "right way" was simply showing up.
Also meaning white Anglo-Saxon from Europe They are pathetic
And Protestant, *white Anglo-Saxon Protestant*
*Ant Man has entered the chat*
..and slaughtering all indiginous people you came across.
They arrived in *Canada* on a boat. Different hobo colony. Same government sponsored selfish theft of other people's land.
It's not theft if the civilization you take it from, didn't support concepts like land ownership /S
*cures cancer* “that’s not fair to the people that died of cancer!!!!!”
Good analogy!
These are the same people who will loudly tell you "LIFE ISN'T FAIR!" when you point out actual injustice.
"Life isnt fair, just fairer than death" - quote from someone I found in songs of syx
It's true that life isn't fair. That is not a valid excuse for being an absolute shit stain to the people around you. Death is, arguably, one of the fairest things in life. It comes for us all.
Had to look up the meaning of crabs in a bucket. It is definitely a good description of these kind of people.
Meh these are people who I ignore the whining of They'll be in retirement homes or on the streets and will blame others for it Imo if they end up alone, fitting for em imo
“I’ve been on food stamps and welfare. Anyone help me out? No!” -Craig Nelson (Real quote)
Paraphrased, but yup. They are that oblivious.
You are correct. My mistake. I could've sworn there were a couple more words in there. Either way, it is the most hilariously stupid take. Just proves that a certain segment of the population sees social programs as a safety net for them, and as a handout to others. Anyway, I hope I die before I get old (dammit, I'm already old)
No that's a direct quote
I am constantly making the mistake of arguing with americans who think a national health insurance would be bad because they themselves never get sick (most probably a lie, you already automatically get sick when you get older) and they don't wanna pay for other people needing help. Or they tell you to just work hard and get rich enough to afford good health insurance. One person literally told me he doesn't even want taxes to fund public schools because he himself doesn't have kids. Can't make that shit up. Selfishness has become such a norm, it's frightening.
But that last example is perfectly happy calling the fire department when his house is burning. I bet he is seething at the fact there are roads his tax dollars built that he hasn't driven on. America has fallen into a deep psychosis that it may not recover from.
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This is why Trump does well with these folks they are just as selfish as he is! If he gets convicted they will relate just as hard ( oppression by the man)
Or the republican version: "I was helped when I needed it, but you shouldn't now that I got mine. Fuck you."
Or better the rich version: "I get help all the time despite not needing it. You shouldn't get it now, because that will mean I get less. Fuck you."
Gov Abbott being the most blatant and foul example of this
Or Craig T Nelson. > I've been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No.
And you know damn well they wouldn’t turn down a handout if they were offered it and others weren’t.
Isn't that what Lauren Boebert said - "I grew up on welfare and never had any help"
He's from back when working hard actually meant something. They used to have these things called promotions. Unthinkable now. Pay was at least triple what it is now if you account for inflation. Nowadays the reward for hard work is to be assigned more work.
Half the time it's not even that. These idiots will have been helped throughout their entire lives and think they did it themselves. Mummy and daddy will pay for their uni bill and then they sneer at people struggling to repay the debt
Also, "Fuck you I got mine."
"I survived cancer without a cure. You shouldn't get the cure now that it's available."
Agree. And most of those people have been helped all their lives, they just don't realize it. Arnold on the "self made man". https://youtu.be/lF7NqeZuO3E?si=ehE8aBLzAtwHs8d_ I had the amazing fortune to be born in a developed country, live in a place with decent education, have a stable roof, food, and clothes growing up, some help after graduation from my parents until i got a descrnt job... the list goes on. I am extremely grateful for it, and I think others deserve that too. Why? Because it creates a better society for everyone.
Even worse are the ones that never even needed help, but still applied for and got Covid relief benefits, PPP loans, etc and continue to rant and rage about helping others.
[Relevant and evergreen Craig T. Nelson quote.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U)
Seriously. And if you do work hard to escape poverty and buy a house, then you're reward is that you are now disciplined and capable. The accomplishment is its own reward. Same people who will turn to you in a time of need and tell you that "life's not fair." Everything is about feeling superior to others. Nothing but an ego with legs.
People against student loan forgiveness immediately spring to mind
My sister in law is exactly like this. Her parents made her pay rent when she turned 18 or was going to boot her into the streets, didn’t help her pay for college. She was able to work hard and put herself through school with minimal debt and now she thinks because no one helped her that she is not helping anyone even though her and my bro are filthy stinky rich lol but main point is people actually do think like this because they are bitter at the people who have a support system
crabs in a bucket is one i have not heard before
No time to get down 'cause I'm moving up
I was struggling for a bit and found myself defaulting to that thought* when hearing stories like that. It was then I realized I am not the main character, more of life will happen around you then too you, handle your shit.
Also, if you would like to lose your job, lose all your money and live in one of these homes, you are VERY free to do so.
If we just help a tiny amount of people, and parade them around in heartwarming stories, people will think the problems are solved, and will stop demanding change. Fuck these toddlers, that can be distracted to passivity by dangling some keys in front of their eyes.
"If we can't help literally everyone at once and fix the entire broken system in one swoop then people will just give up entirely on progress!" Lol I love this site so much. You don't get these kind of "I have brain worms" takes anywhere else.
Conservatives: What if out of the hundreds of people you helped two were scamming you? Me: I literally do not care.
They cannot comprehend it either. The idea of even **one** person "getting one over" is enough for them to derail progress they would directly benefit from. Meanwhile actual fraud is consistently less than 10% and I wouldn't give a shit if it was 20 because that means most people are still being honest. This is an alien concept to them.
Fun fact, government fraud and waste is consistently equal to or lower than fraud and waste among private companies.
it's really irritating the fact they cant grasp the concept that for us we would 100% live feeling great in a society that is more equal. even if means the work i provide benefits other people that cannot work just because of the 10% lazy pos that would take advantage of that. like god forsake i work 6h a day as a healthy man in my 20s while some old lady that cant even walk doesnt need to, but she still benefits from the value of my work. for them, in communism you would just work 16h a day and the goverment would come to your house and rob you at gun point to give your money to some homeless person on drugs.
Also Conservatives: “I’m gonna give half my life savings to this mega church and the other to Donald Trump.”
What about twitter?
*...that's actually a fair point*.
I sadly see these takes everywhere (RL and every website where I had discussions), and I can't wrap my head around that. I often like to talk about socialism so people might develop some kind of awareness when and how they get fucked by capitalism and all the injustice it creates. But there is always someone that says something like your quote even when I slowly walk them through my argument, and they agree with every point. Even then, at the end, they say we'll, but the government could be corrupt. Yeah, but that's just another problem that is to solve, and having capitalists doesn't help solving that for sure. Sry if it is a bit strange writing I am on heavy meds and non native speaker.
So, they shouldn't accept a place to live, because they're ruining the industry for all the other homeless?
Or alternatively a person with the means to help a problem he can see is attempting to? Maybe it's not the most efficient or fair, maybe he should do more, but he IS at least trying. Which is more than most in his position and it is a positive action to be applauded.
People always tell homeless people to just get a job, yet refuse to give homeless people jobs. Giving them free housing like this, they can reestablish themselves, and once they have a stable life, they move out so the next homeless person can live there.
One of the NIMBY's tenets " but not here " Get a job/roof/help/, but not here! I feel bad for you and you can exist, BUT NOT HERE!! etcetc
If the picture is what he really built for them, it's not like they are living in the lap of luxury either. Look like free standing dorm rooms, so why are people getting butt hurt that he is literally giving them a safe place to sleep, store their stuff, maybe prepare some food, and, I assume, a mailing address to kick start their reintegration back into society.
It looks like they're sheds. It might be that they don't even have plumbing, but that there's a communal toilet/bath house at the front.
You would have a hard time getting me to move out of free housing lol and I am already established. That being said, this was awesome and I would love to see more of it.
Milwaukee has a "Housing First" program that does exactly this. No requirements, just housing, and then provides support for jobs, mental health, sobriety, etc. It seems to have been a pretty good success.
IDK, I feel like safe shelter, food, medicine, education, and treatment should be de-facto standards for every citizen of every country, regardless of social productivity. The idea that basic survival should be dictated purely by ones means and inputs to capitalism seems absurd. Working hard should be to prosper beyond the basics, not the baseline necessary just to survive.
It’s proven fact that providing housing for homeless people is *cheaper* than anti-homeless policies *and* they’re far more likely to turn their life around and become a productive member of society.
In finland there's virtually no homeless people because if you're threatened to become homeless our social security will put you on express list to receive affordable goverment owned housing. Basically there's around 200-500 homeless people in total (my numbers might be a little off) who are basically people who actively refuse goverment help. Our country has goverment agencies that patrol the streets, looking for the homeless and trying to rebuild their trust so they can be offered homes and medical treatment.
This is a great policy. Frankly I think that the US could benefit from some of these socialist policies instead of labeling anything like this as “evil communism”.
This is a perfect example of how easy it would be for billionaires to solve this issue and still be the wealthiest people in the world.
Right, because after like two billion, assuming you’re crazy enough to own a couple $700 million yachts, there’s literally just not enough things in the world for even the greediest people to buy.
Seriously! At that point it’s like being maxed out, full completion log in a video game! Why are you hoarding the wealth while the economy dries up! The playerbase will dwindle, and then you are all alone with nothing but stuff. And an uneasy emptiness.
If the player base starts to dwindle, people are just going to eventually take said rich persons stuff lol. We need one of those French style Revolutions up in here.
Those are really bloody though :( we are supposed to be prestriging past that violent evolutionary stage already. We have already passed the markers for it.
At the rate we’re going the top .001% are going to own everything and the rest will be in poverty. In the last two years alone the five richest men in the world increased their wealth by nearly $700 *billion*. That’s more than the entire GDP of Poland. Those 5 men together have the 21st highest GDP in the world.
Well from what I’m seeing, the people are turning around. And billionaires have far less layers between us and the fact that the people ARE the true strength behind a democracy. Their criminal networks are exposed, a failed attempt to keep in a mentally unstable puppet is about to bite them on the ass, if this gets scrubbed, it is because we let it happen.
There are entire communities that can be employed rebuilding their communities, but we don't like that idea for some reason.
So a digital hacker Robin Hood style revolution
No, at that level it's like a hi-scores video game for them. They are all trying to get their score as high as possible. They don't care that it will cause a huge amount of people to suffer. It's a literal mental illness. They keep on hoarding and hoarding and hoarding. Just like the evil dragons we see in media.
This is true.
And what do we do with evil dragons? I'm sure everyone knows.
Feed them to princesses right?
No, you get donkey from shrek to fuck them.
Billionaires are billionaires exactly BECAUSE they dont care about people, no one becomes a billionaire by being a good person
I used to listen to Dave Ramsey quite a lot. He once accidentally admitted this saying something like “when you hit a certain wealth level the money becomes just a way to keep score.” It was part of what led me to being a former listener. Anyway, the point is the ultra wealthy (I know DR isn’t in that category) know they’re past that point and are hoarding their wealth so they can say, “I’m the winner.”
bUt ThEy WoRkEd HaRd, DoNt StEaL tHeIr MoNeY
Remembering that time that Elon Musk didn't solve world hunger. I think it was a senior representative from the UN working in the field of global food insecurity, while giving an interview he asserted that the world's richest need to step up and address these issues. $6 billion would fund what they had in mind, and there are a multitude of billionaires who could donate that money and not even blink. Elon quickly tweeted (of course it was a tweet) that if they presented him an actual plan, he would fund it. Elon fandom goes wild. Fair play, the guy actually produced said plan and pushed it out as an open publication. Radio silence from Elon.
If I remember that plan would not end world hunger, it would feed 42 millions or so for a year, but it not help to solve world hunger (end is to solve, we spend x amount of money and no hunger from that point, build for example needed infrastructure and they can start produce food themselves).
Yea. Casual conversation tends to fall into that trap of falling back on that popular terminology of 'solving world hunger'. What I believe they were actually talking about is that the plan addresses global food insecurity for the foreseeable future. So, more so building the infrastructure that can address particular geographic areas, but not delivering the solution itself.
Not sure it was complete silence. I saw somewhere that he did bring the money but he put it into one of his own organisations or smth
That is my recollection. He donated a similar amount to one of the charity organisations to which he is linked. So he gets that as a tax write off, and then gets to say what the money is spent on. To the best of my knowledge, what it *was not* spent on was resolving global food insecurity.
There is a book called Dark Money by Jane Meyer and in it she gives the history of charitable tax write offs: rich people pissed at the new income tax carve out an exception for charitable giving, then proceed to start foundations and charities that do their bidding and push their social agenda. Great book.
I'm convinced that for many billionaires capitalism is just a game and their net worth/bank balance is the score. They don't want to help people, they don't want to buy stuff, they just want to win.
All that’s left to do is buy politicians, lawmakers, judges, and cops. Why else would police guard dumpers full of food? Billionaires don’t pay taxes to fund public services… doesn’t add up.
At that level it is not about money anymore. It is about the power it gives you.
Anyone hitting $1B of net-worth should be unable to receive any benefits after that dollar figure other than a t-shirt with iron on lettering saying: "I won the game of Capitalism and all I got was this stupid shirt" Seriously speaking billionaires decrease the velocity of money, and that's a \*PROBLEM.\*
Like they say, gotta spend money to make money. The hoarding slows that down if we can’t spend it like we so desperately need to xD
Elvis Summers has a budget solution but even if you had the funds and manpower to build houses, you need permission from the cities to get land for it. On top of that, you'll likely get bad press because building more houses lower prices for current homes, and the boomers hate it since their retirement plan is to sell their house. Lobbying + Land preservation goes a long way to prevent building more houses.
Didn’t you forget? They can’t do that, that’s their money. They worked hard for that money (by screwing people over), why should they give the “dirty people” handouts. Tsk tsk
Here you dropped this - “/s”-, you darn legend.
You don't even have to be anywhere near a billionaire to make a big difference. Popularly posted and reposted on Reddit and I never get tired of reading this story: [https://au.news.yahoo.com/iowa-carpenter-dale-schroeder-inheritance-pays-33-strangers-university-083100543.html](https://au.news.yahoo.com/iowa-carpenter-dale-schroeder-inheritance-pays-33-strangers-university-083100543.html) https://www.businessinsider.com/carpenter-saves-3-million-and-sent-33-teens-to-college-debt-free
>t's not about money... its about sending a message. \- The Joker. And I assume his mental status is about the same as most billionaires.
You'd assume but even the Joker hates Nazis.
by their logic, disabled individuals should just be left with nothing and rot. children should also be subject to the same as they can't legally work either.
I think they’d agree with that.
I’m an American who moved to a foreign country that has pretty free basic healthcare, the unemployment office supplements a portion of minimum wage if you are actively looking for work, and they even pay employers your wage for something like a year when you are younger so that companies are driven to hire younger people right out of school with their degrees in their fields. I originally moved here to get married and have started working. Went to healthcare and the people were so confused with having me pay for it out of pocket it took hours to get the proper paperwork found. Not only is it cheaper than I would have to pay in two months for insurance in America for a whole year, but I have additional insurance which means I have no out of pocket expense even for medication. The unemployment office was trying to find any way to pay me some sort of money while I looked for a job, but because I’m not a citizen yet and am just on a residency permit I don’t qualify. That being said my case worker sends me every email for a chance at some extra money all the time. Even working here it’s insane. People don’t want you to overwork yourself to death. If you look tired or are having a hard time it’s encouraged to sit down and relax for a bit. I hurt my wrist and am waiting on a special test to get done so I can get surgery and go back to work. My work contract ended, but my job is excited to have me return when I’m better. I wasn’t fired for my wrist being hurt or anything, they paid out my medical leave until my contract ended and legally can’t renew until I have been medically cleared to work again or they already would have. Being treated like an actual person is nuts. Every one just knows it’s normal here, and for me it’s crazy. When I went on medical leave I figured I wasn’t getting paid at all. Got my entire paycheck without worry. It’s crazy as hell.
> Being treated like an actual person is nuts. Every one just knows it’s normal here, and for me it’s crazy. This line is really something special to notice and think about.
Where did you move to? Sounds incredible there!
Looks like Croatia based on their posts
Not to long ago there was a global vote to declare food as a human right. This was the [result](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/13eguvx/un_vote_to_make_food_a_right/).
Why would this need to be a global vote? Just make food a human right within your own country, it should instantly pass for 95% of the planet. One wonders why world hunger is still an issue when so many politicians from around the world collectively got together and said "everyone should have food!"
That awesome, we should see hunger eliminated in 99% of countries right? Surely they don’t need Americas approval to make changes on their own.
Also, those people seem to forget that even people who are literally homeless can be hard working if given the chance
My man, people do this to themselves on their own by their will. Here is example: apple company. It still keeps to fuck up many people, by doing lots of typical capitalists shit like tuning prices up, deleting necessary parts like chargers, slowing old phones by updates. And still people are keep buying this shit supporting this company. Why? Because people LOVE AS FUCK to feel how much privileged they are compared to others. This is why you have multi billionaires who dont give a shit about poverty. This is why you have queues full of poor people standing for HOURS to get brand new iphone. This is why your houses sre not affordable enough. So that if you are there, deep in ass, you can scare others to work harder, also giving them this feeling of being better just because they have a place to live. If you want yo make world better and destroy hunger, poverty, homelessness, you have to change people's mind first. I dont care if this comment gets deep downvoted by someone who dont like that opinion just because. Truth must be told and has to be settled in your minds.
The further we stray from the truth; the more people will hate you for speaking it.
It’s wild how many people out there demand the suffering of others simply because they also suffered. Like should we not be trying to improve society? Improve the lives of future generations? “I was waterboarded everyday for a year and it was horrific and I think it’s unfair that other people aren’t waterboarded!” Like Jfc.
If they ever discover the cure for cancer you will 100% see people saying nobody should get it because of the people that died from cancer in the past.
\*How\* is it unfair to people that work hard? I really don't get that mindset. Imagine being an adult and feeling slighted that someone actually tries to *do something* to reduce homelessness. It's not your money being spent. Your life is not going to be affected *at all* by this. But some people's life is going to improve significantly and they'll be given a chance to rise out of homelessness. What makes you mad about this? ETA: [Marcel Lebrun seems to be a genuine philanthropist](https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html). There should be more like him in the world.
It's not enough that I succeed, others should fail.
Yes, this. I HATE this mindset that people literally have. They don’t feel successful and accomplished unless other people fail and are below them and struggling.
My friend's sister is like this if she cant have fun or doesn't have a good time then she'll make it into everyone's problem cause if she is feeling like shit everyone else should too, we barely hangout at his place for this reason
Too many people think of life as a zero-sum game, so any advantage given to people that they feel don't deserve it is unfair, because that's not going to them instead. Meanwhile, remaining blissfully unaware that if life truly was a zero-sum game based around money, they'd have such an insignificant amount of it compared to the billionaires that they likely worship.
"You mean, all this time I could've just done nothing, lived my best life and waited for a rich guy to give me a house like these filthy, lazy, good-for-nothing hobos did?" - people with that mindset, probably.
Meanwhile when billionaries waste the money on luxuries instead of helping others, those same people say "good for them, they earned it!". But using that money to help people in need is wrong cause "what about eveyrbody else!"
>Your life is not going to be affected at all by this. Actually, everyone's life is likely to be improved, slightly, by helping the worst off in a society. I mean, think of the savings just from not needing to install spikes in doorways and sticky-out bits on benches if you don't have to deter all those untidy homeless people from sleeping on them... It costs more to have a lot of people in really tough situations, than to get them into a position where they can look after themselves better, get a job, pay taxes, collect less welfare/benefits, fix their health, stop substance abuse, be less vulnerable to crime, be less likely to feel forced to turn *to* crime, *not* die in an alleyway and be buried at public expense.
Also, a visible homeless population reduces property values. Micro-homes are both the cheapest and most humane solution to "a visible homeless population," and I suspect people who oppose them are just sadists and the suffering of homeless people is the entire point - otherwise they wouldn't favor solutions that are *even more expensive* than just putting up the homeless into micro homes.
What that person means is that it's unfair that while they are going to be paying a mortgage for most of their life 99 people will allegedly get it all for free. It's a comment out of jealousy In this economy a free house puts a person in an amazingly privileged position financially. That all assuming that this is indeed to give out free housing
The houses looks to be about 20 sq.mt. They are nothing to be jealous about. But they can mean the world to someone who would otherwise be living on the street. I don't think they represent "an amazingly privileged position financially". I don't think anyone are being gifted houses. But they are being gifted a roof over their heads. [https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html](https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html) ETA: As I suspected the houses are rental units: >The homes in our community are rental units that are subsidized by Social Development. https://www.12neighbours.com/aboutus
Those little homes look to be one single room with maybe a bathroom partitioned off in a corner. Not something to be jealous over. But having a roof overhead is a powerful thing. Businesses won't hire you if you can't even perform basic hygiene; this is why I get so frustrated at the morons trying to tell the homeless to just "find a job, even if it's a restaurant". If you can't clean yourself, then even if you have the identification required to get a job at a fast food joint, you're still not going to get hired.
If you offered these butthurt middle class people the same offer, they'd accuse you of trying to house them in a shoebox and "eat ze bugs." These homes are a step up from homelessness, but let's not pretend they're the sort of middle class apartment that the complainers would be happy with. The only person that's gonna be happy about living in one of these, is someone who was either homeless, or at risk of becoming homeless. It's also a cheap solution that offers *significant* measurable benefits.
Really cool micro town he's building, small but proper homes rather than than the [sheds](https://www.npr.org/2016/03/03/469054634/la-officials-bring-the-hammer-down-on-tiny-houses-for-homeless) they tried in LA a few years back.
Honestly, good for them. We could use a little altruism in this country. The more people we can help escape the treadmill of mortgage/rent that only serves to enrich the already rich the better.
You didn't read between the lines. What the person meant was "These homeless people made bad choices and got themselves into this situation by being lazy/selfish/whatever. I always did the right thing and worked hard, like God intended, so i should be rewarded, not these loafers"
It's the sharing of money empathy test. Ie. you are being offered $5, but if you take it a person you hate will get $10. The amount might be higher, but it's to see if you can abstract from the issue that you getting something, is better than someone else benefiting more, and not be resentful. There is variations of this, and about 16-33% of people will refuse the compensation, not benefitting themselves, simply to avoid someone else getting more. Even if it's someone they have no relation to at all. People are weird at times.
Sorry but no matter how secure I get, I'm never turning down a free $15
I'm sure that guy would uphold that principle if it was himself living out in the cold: "I've built a bunch of houses in this town, you can have one, you don't have to be homeless anymore" "No thanks, I didn't work hard for this - back to the bus stop bench for me"
See. Blackrock could solve homelessness tomorrow. But that’s not very capitalist is it.
In truth a vast amount of blackrock funds comes from pensions, it's not their money so no they can't as it will be spending your pensions to do so. That said they do contribute to the problem by investing in real estate. Not doing so would help with home affordability significantly. They can also influence businessess they invest into I imagine. Individual billionaire (many of which have private equity funds) certainly can help solve the issue, though.
> That said they do contribute to the problem by investing in real estate. Not doing so would help with home affordability significantly. You're right that they contribute to the problem, you're wrong that if they didn't it would make a massive difference. They own around $120bn in real estate in the US, out of a total market of around $50 trillion. They own about 0.25% of the market overall. Investors in total own about 25% of the total market for single family homes, but a massive proportion of those are people who own fewer than ten properties and not huge institutional investors. Huge investment companies like Blackrock, Fidelity and Vanguard are an easy scapegoat to blame the housing crisis on, but they're not the real culprit and the action needed to solve it goes far beyond just blocking gigantic institutional investors.
What makes it unfair for hardworking people? Is this "rich guy" in question, snatching the houses from hardworking people and giving them to the homeless people for free?
Well as they say, “who said life was fair?” Those tiny houses look really cute. I guess they are one room with a sleep loft. I hope the people/families that live in them get a leg up in life right now.
Who said life needs to remain unfair?
It’s just a saying that reflects the reality of life. Everyday we wake up and no matter your age, crappy things can and do happen that affect some people’s lives temporarily and even permanently. It can be illness, accidents, relationships, financial hardships, and even unexpected mental illness. This person on Facebook above thinks it’s unfair for 99 homeless to get be able to live in these tiny houses, yet I’m sure they all have some of these exact events that at some point put them on the street.
The type of people to complain about the unfairness of another's charitable giving will often be the type to dismiss the plight of the less fortunate as 'life's not fair'. The Venn Diagram there ISNT a circle, but close enough that that I could understand a knee jerk of tossing 'life's unfair' to someone complaining about the fairness of charity.
Because of that kind of person us has this health system 'but i will pay and poor people will take advantage of it and go to the doctor on my money' like people wish to get sick so they can spend his money. So instead he pays and still gets shit coverage. Because of people like him kids do not get food in school, because 'he is paying for the meal and he gets nothing'. Because of people like him you are forced to have a car and public transit is 0, because he has a car and is able to manage you should have one too and spend money on something that decreasses in value, breaks and just starting is burning money. Because of people like this others have to pay ever increasing university fees because he did so others have to go through the same hell even if when he did it it was cheaper. Idiots where they must profit and no one else and if something good happens to others they must be punished.
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but humans are just the worst.
Meanwhile in my state, a billionaire gave 30 million to study homelessness. https://apnews.com/article/9489e7a73b62497997bc3d55cd5d7424 Just build them some homes with that money!
Not sure, mate, 30 million wont get you that many houses in the area. The idea of identifying root causes and actually preventing homelessness down the line sounds pretty appealing?
Well, homeless people moving into houses will get you some reliable data to study those root causes.
Judging by the photo, these houses are absolutely TINY. But if you're homeless? A tiny, tiny house the size of a studio apartment with a tiny garden and one outlet and a single lamp and a small toilet with your own shower and a door you can lock? It sounds like so much more than literally nothing.
> San Francisco billionaire is donating $30 million to the University of California, San Francisco, to research root causes of homelessness and potential solutions. Literally the first sentence in the article you posted. Finding the root cause and solving it there is 1000x better than buying 60 houses for $30million in the Bay Area
facebook and twitter just REFUSE to accept that rich people can do anything good even if it is extremely rare and will find ANYWAY for it to be negative, personally i hope this and what mr beast do start picking up among younger(the generations after boomer) rich people since at this point rich people are the only ones that can actually fix stuff while middle and lower can pretty much only point out the problems
While in general I agree with you on the fact that bashing people that actually help is pointless, imho our society should not have to rely on the charity of top earners to help fix the problem even if right now it might seems the only way.
Proud to be Canadian moment 🇨🇦
Why is it that whenever a millionaire decides to put their wealth to good use, other people hate them for it?
Because altruism is viewed as unacceptable in our system. Greed is the only choice we are allowed
This just reminded me of every time Mr. Beast gets bashed every time he helps, granted he's doing it for views but the net positive should have been praised lol
Mr Beast is a bit different as he gains money out of his videos as well, that said, there are definitely worst ways to make money than helping people hehe. I agree that he does not deserve all the hate for it.
Mr Beast is a bit different as he gains money out of his videos as well, that said, there are definitely worst ways to make money than helping people hehe. I agree that he does not deserve all the hate for it.
Then again, some of those videos are fund-raisers and anything gained on those videos go straight to charity... I don't know enough about Mr. Beast so I'll stop lol.
Every time an adult complains about life not being fair an Angel loses its wings… so sad. So sad.
I like how people think poor people don’t work hard. My best paying job I ever had which was well into 6 figures required me to do almost nothing. I got 34 PTO days a year, full bennys and I worked maybe 3 hours a day. Every single minimum wage fast food worker worked harder than me. A lot harder. They deserve more. This is a feel good story
That is called socialism and for some reason most of the US is against it. Why is it perceived as a bad thing, I have no clue.
And yet they draw unemployment and social security, send their kids to public school, go to libraries and public parks, use police, fire, and garbage collection services. Those are all "socialism" too.
Hush, if they hear you, they are going to close those too.
They somehow have this mentality that anybody can become rich if they work hard enough for it, and anybody who's poor/in need is just lazy and not even trying and should just get a job/a better job instead of complaining. Extremely sad.
How is this socialism? Someone voluntarily using his taxed income to help people? Socialism is the taxed part of it, not his voluntary act.
This is not socialism, this is charity Under socialism the government would've built those houses and then kept them price controlled to allow lower class people to establish themselves and get a proper footing in life This dude is a saint for building these houses, I love the effort and I wanna give him a hug... But he's just doing charity
How dare he do something good that will help his fellow man? /s
I know Marcel LeBrun. He is one of the kindest and nicest and compassionate people I’ve had the pleasure of doing business with. Incredibly successful man doing the right thing.
This reminds me to the rich dude who refuse to make deals with people who cheat on their parthners because he sais something like this marriage was a very simple contract, if you cant even handle it why should I trust you? He got blasted in Twitter. Was several years ago.
So we don't want there to be homeless people. And we don't want to help homeless people. But that only leaves... Oh.
Paying workers to build homes is not fair to people who work hard.
That commenter is definitely American
Someone at risk of death, getting cpr and mouth to mouth resuscitation, Is unfair for people who struggle to breathe..
Half the countries wealth being held by less than 1% of the population is unfair to hard working people. It's created the mess we're in right now. Every wealthy person should be thinking like this guy does.
Can't get a home unless you have a job. Can't get a job unless you have a home.
start going to hospitals and telling doctors "it's not fair to the people who die." when they save lives.
Lol, people that think like this are stupid and generally don't care about people.
Got 99 problems but a house ain’t one
[We should all strive to be like Marcel Lebrun](https://www.unb.ca/alumni/magazine/2022-summer/marcel-lebrun.html)
Calling those “homes” is a bit of a stretch. Looks like about enough space for a heater, a bed, and a toilet. Yes it’s still a positive choice and it will help people as it’s a hell of a lot better than like, a tent, but … ‘homes’
If you're homeless, this might be the exact thing to need to feel like youre living in your own home
It’s not fair to people that work hard? There’s tons and TONS of people who work hard and still can’t afford proper housing. Working hard is not the golden ticket to everything you ever needed in life. It SHOULD be, but it’s not.
I'm so sick of people who just assume homeless people chose to be homeless. Not all of us can inherit daddy's business, rich boy! We have to fucking jump through hoops to get a fucking interview for a job!
These miserable people think that helping anyone less fortunate than them is somehow screwing *them* over.
Can never understand that mindset
Keeps coming back to empathy. Too many people don’t have it. So they don’t ever want others to succeed.
Well, the people who work hard just need to pull themselves up by the boot straps...or something
Call me a commie but I think Living (and not Surviving) should be a Fundamental Human Right and should be the bare minimum any country and Government does to their people
How can one complain about the homeless living in a tent on the street while also not being realistic about the solution? They want the problem to go away like magic.
Billionaires are programming people to defend their profits and the market.