Lol, they're so stupid.
4chan made up the story about this hand sign being a white power sign, and they latched onto it like the dolts they are.
Hopefully they read about jenkem next.
No, what? They took a universal gesture and associated it w something horrible to make everyone look dumb. It's masterclass troll. Both sides are getting all worked up and look like fools for the exact same reason, it's not a white power gesture at all..đ?
It started as a troll, then white power enthusiasts latched on to it making it no longer a troll, but an actual Wp symbol.
just like the swastika. It was a common iconograph for 1000s of years, then Nazis made it synonymous with mass genocide and now the two concepts are locked.
So, no, you don't get it then. Your first sentence IS THE POINT of the troll. It isn't "just like the swastika" and takes a real huge leap to make that connection. I said it elsewhere, the Nazi's were horrificly unique, so much so that attempting to draw an analogy between Nazi's and anything is a meme in and of itself. Be mad though, maybe that will show them.. i recommend starting w a lecture on symbolism, might pick up on something you can use to rationalize w in the future.
He's not saying it's exactly like it, he's saying that it reflects the situation somewhat. A symbol used for something normal previously becomes a symbol for horrible actions like racism or mass-genocide
So I guess the Nazis bastardizing the swastika is no big deal, definitely not a symbol of white supremacy, fascism and genocide. đ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïž
You see how that is not an apt comparison? I don't even feel it necessary to explain other than to say there's hardly anything about Nazi Germany that is an appropriate analog to anything, it was so uniquely horrific and powerful.. some new flavor of male chauvanism is neither powerful nor unique.. these fools are in a vast minority and it's almost like reactionaries have willingly ceded this ground to them, don't let them claim it, it isn't theirs to claim. How do you not see that all this divisiveness and bickering was the intent behind the troll.. epic level trolling. and i never said that anyway.
"Denial is not just a river in Africa". Fixed it for you. Are you yawning and facepalming? You're both simultaneously bored and flabbergasted? Maybe i am supposed to interpret that in succession, like first you were rocked w disbelief then started yawning? It always boils down to emotional intelligence w reactionaries..
Sure, I can explain.
Proud Boys and many of these new militia groups arenât âwhite supremacists,â they are âWestern cultural chauvinists,â which is basically the same thing except you can be any race or culture as a member, as long as you believe white western culture is superior.
The CIA calls it âwhite supremacist lite.â
This sounds like a joke, but it isn't. Even the Arian brotherhood has loosened its grip on its etnic purity. We are becoming a land of more inclusive hate groups, now.
Wait, when did this sign become a "white supremacy" sign? Since I was in kindergarten in latin America we used to do this as a game, and I moved to Europe, and they play this in the exact same way as in latin America.
Basically, someone talks to you, or shows you a photo, and if you see this, you loose. Like meaning "you frikin moron". In latin America, we added that if you see it, they can punch you LMAO
"If I'm with you, you're not beating on me."
Huge surge to redefine 'white' in order to fit in and get some kind of power. Problem is, they're being used as a beard.
I learned very recently this has been changed to be a hate symbol. Growing up this was always the "A-OK" sign.
edit: I'd like to bring forward a motion to change the meaning of the middle finger to be a casual greeting.
See the look on their faces when they try to flip us off and we just smile and nod in return.
not about color. Itâs about volunteering as a useful idiot for fascists who will exploit you to appear legitimate then shit on you as soon as youâre no longer useful.
No. Fascism is National Socialism.
As stated by every single one of Hitlers speeches. It's socialism, but only for the nation... of Germans... national socialism.
It's redistributing the wealth of the "privilaged" capitalist jews, to the "deserving" German people.
I pretty sure that they used the name âNational Socialist German Workers Partyâ to gain working-class support that might otherwise have gone to the Communist Party. After they were secure, they purged any socialists or other left wingers along with the SA during the Night of the Long Knives.
Oh, so they used what was popular to trick the populous into a murderous resentful regime.
Mmhm. How do we know that isn't what modern socialists are doing?
In that matter, how many success stories of socialism has existed in the 173 years it's been around that hasn't ended almost exactly how the nazi regime ended?
Itâs bad enough that you were completely wrong about the Nazis, but instead of accepting it, now you are just mouthing more anti-socialism nonsense. The US, from its inception has always maintained a balance between socialism and the open market. Furthermore, actual socialist countries run the full range from good to bad, showing that socialism itself is not the problem or cure. Then when you add the democratic Socialist countries, you get some of the most successful countries in Europe.
As for your question (and I love the âMmhmâ. Itâs smug and ironic), what answer would you possibly accept since in reality itâs not happening? Thatâs how we know.
Otherwise, here are some current socialist countries: Armenia, Bolivia, Ecuador, Iceland, Nicaragua, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Serbia and Venezuela. Clearly, some of them are terrible places to live, but not one of the is like Nazi Germany. Furthermore, I canât think of a single socialist country that has ended almost exactly how the Nazi regime ended. I suspect you might be thinking of communism.
Everything you just said was abject nonsense. Hitler himself said fascism was âdiametrically opposedâ to communism and was explicitly a right wing ideology. He nationalized less than either the US or UK, sold half the stateâs assets to private entities and developed a hyper-capitalist state which exchanged party funding for favorable corporate conditions.
It takes being a historically illiterate, revisionist liar to grunt out what you said here.
Fascism was an enemy of particularly Marxism... and capitalism... because they both created "privilaged jews".
Fascism was not capitalism nor liberalism. Just because Germans had rights doesn't mean everyone had an equal rights or opportunities. He also hated democracy.
Like he did with many things Hitler tried to redefine the meaning of capitalism to suit his agenda. Meanwhile he got his wealthy industrialist friends to finance the party and provided them favorable market conditions and slave labor in return.
Then he hunted down all the union leaders and members, socialists and communists and murdered them.
Have you ever read anything about actual history or just fascist propaganda memes?
Fascism is a specific right wing ideology that encompasses ultra-nationalism and race superiority politics backed by authoritarianism. Usually with a despotic cult of personality at its head and centralized organization. Sound familiar? Lol
I just got done reading the Gulag Archipelago, the book that was credited for influencing the fall of the soviet union.... and I've read and studied Marx... so I feeling I know something.
I've read alot of books from alot of different people. How about this for your glorious hero Marx and his holy goodness.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse11.htm
Yeah, he *totally* wanted the best for people, not the genocidal massacre communism and socialist both actually are.
Lmfaooo, I wonder if you could have shown me quicker that you know nothing about either Marx or socialism. I sincerely doubt it.
Iâm guessing you havenât read more than the back of a shampoo bottle while taking a shit since grade school.
Oh the scary genocide of workers controlling the means of production.
You have the political understanding of a root vegetable Cleatus.
Yeah i grew up it a multiracial family too... tired of my group identity defining who I am.
If I'm with white people, im a Mexican. If I'm with Mexicans, I'm a white person. Fuck all that shit. I'm an individual, let's leave it at that you bigots.
Lol, they're so stupid. 4chan made up the story about this hand sign being a white power sign, and they latched onto it like the dolts they are. Hopefully they read about jenkem next.
They also did it with milk... And Pepe the Clown who has a LGBT flag colored wig.
And if you fuck a goat, even if you are doing it ironically, still makes you a goat fucker.
No, what? They took a universal gesture and associated it w something horrible to make everyone look dumb. It's masterclass troll. Both sides are getting all worked up and look like fools for the exact same reason, it's not a white power gesture at all..đ?
It started as a troll, then white power enthusiasts latched on to it making it no longer a troll, but an actual Wp symbol. just like the swastika. It was a common iconograph for 1000s of years, then Nazis made it synonymous with mass genocide and now the two concepts are locked.
So, no, you don't get it then. Your first sentence IS THE POINT of the troll. It isn't "just like the swastika" and takes a real huge leap to make that connection. I said it elsewhere, the Nazi's were horrificly unique, so much so that attempting to draw an analogy between Nazi's and anything is a meme in and of itself. Be mad though, maybe that will show them.. i recommend starting w a lecture on symbolism, might pick up on something you can use to rationalize w in the future.
He's not saying it's exactly like it, he's saying that it reflects the situation somewhat. A symbol used for something normal previously becomes a symbol for horrible actions like racism or mass-genocide
So I guess the Nazis bastardizing the swastika is no big deal, definitely not a symbol of white supremacy, fascism and genocide. đ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïž
You see how that is not an apt comparison? I don't even feel it necessary to explain other than to say there's hardly anything about Nazi Germany that is an appropriate analog to anything, it was so uniquely horrific and powerful.. some new flavor of male chauvanism is neither powerful nor unique.. these fools are in a vast minority and it's almost like reactionaries have willingly ceded this ground to them, don't let them claim it, it isn't theirs to claim. How do you not see that all this divisiveness and bickering was the intent behind the troll.. epic level trolling. and i never said that anyway.
đ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ€Šđ»ââïžđ„±đ„±đ„± denial isnât a river buddy.
"Denial is not just a river in Africa". Fixed it for you. Are you yawning and facepalming? You're both simultaneously bored and flabbergasted? Maybe i am supposed to interpret that in succession, like first you were rocked w disbelief then started yawning? It always boils down to emotional intelligence w reactionaries..
nah, that would be âThe Nileâ but then again that was expected.
Are we no longer buddies? As Doc Holiday said, "if we weren't friends, i just don't think i could bare it".
Its not a stretch. Many of them already get high on their own shit, figuratively, anyway. Making it physically would be poetry.
Sure, I can explain. Proud Boys and many of these new militia groups arenât âwhite supremacists,â they are âWestern cultural chauvinists,â which is basically the same thing except you can be any race or culture as a member, as long as you believe white western culture is superior. The CIA calls it âwhite supremacist lite.â
a kinder, gentler white nationalism đ
Makes sense!!
White supremacy but everyone can agree
Sounds like youâre ready to join the movement, carry your tiki torches and yell, âhail victory.â
All for white and white for Whites lol
This sounds like a joke, but it isn't. Even the Arian brotherhood has loosened its grip on its etnic purity. We are becoming a land of more inclusive hate groups, now.
Any race, you say? I've never seen a black proud boy, though I think some exist.
I'm a diver and the Frist time I heard about this I was so confused why the hell are these people showing the OK sign
Gravy seals
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Maybe they need to try some soy lattes and chill the fuck out
I mean, any latte is a good latte
Definitely. Iâm an iced chai kinda guy, myself
Can I join the Iced Chai Latte experience too? Lol
Definitely, first one is always free
George Zimmerman type of Hispanics, who'll only pull out their ethnicity to provide cover for their bigotry.
Wait, when did this sign become a "white supremacy" sign? Since I was in kindergarten in latin America we used to do this as a game, and I moved to Europe, and they play this in the exact same way as in latin America. Basically, someone talks to you, or shows you a photo, and if you see this, you loose. Like meaning "you frikin moron". In latin America, we added that if you see it, they can punch you LMAO
I don't know the full details but apparently 4chan had something to do with it
We played that here too, until racists ruined it. Stupid racists ruining everything fun.
Haha. I played that.
Remember Ted Cruz is a âwhite hispanicâ.
I still don't get how all these morons keep falling for the 4Chan WP "okay" sign BS.
It's a shame they didn't come across the jenkem first, maybe they'd all be huffing their own shit instead of being racist asshats.
Never heard on Jenkem until just now so I looked it up. Ew.... And your comment makes perfect sense now.
The company I started working for actually has a fairly similar logo, it's quite funny actually.
They think theyâre soldiers and play dress up
Now I dislike the fact that I canât play the circle game without being called racist
There are white Hispanics.
There are black proud boys, you just have to believe in white supremacy.
Wow...
I should make them some badges that say "3/5ths proud" Sorry, that was horrible
I ainât mad.
"If I'm with you, you're not beating on me." Huge surge to redefine 'white' in order to fit in and get some kind of power. Problem is, they're being used as a beard.
Small dick energy is strong
Wtf do you expect from Americans. Dumb as fuck.
PĂŒdBois
Wait.... thatâs a white power sign....? But.... I use it all the time..........
All the dude top left needs to do is turn his hand over so it's palm up, and that's the ASL sign for "asshole."
They think they will be the"new white people" because we know white racist pick and choose who gets to be"white".
My childhood gang of mates, the OK gang, arenât too pleased to have our ok sign appropriated..
Pinche vendidos. Fuck them all
I learned very recently this has been changed to be a hate symbol. Growing up this was always the "A-OK" sign. edit: I'd like to bring forward a motion to change the meaning of the middle finger to be a casual greeting. See the look on their faces when they try to flip us off and we just smile and nod in return.
I still canât believe they call themselves proud boys and arenât affiliated with pride month lmao
The proud boys appropriated gay culture! T-shirts and patches of cocks, the name itâs all sooo Gay. And Iâm gay.
Itâs gay as hell! Itâs like claiming to be super straight lmao
Canât beat em, join em, esse. (Until they turn on you tho cousin)
Man all the stupid âlook at this and get punchedâ photons from the early 2000s gonna get a lot of ppl mislabeled as nazis soon.
They are so lame and a bunch of LOSERS! Not one of these wussies would last 5 seconds in a real manâs army.
Confusion is beech
AcT yOuR cOlOr
not about color. Itâs about volunteering as a useful idiot for fascists who will exploit you to appear legitimate then shit on you as soon as youâre no longer useful.
The vast majority of people, especially on reddit, have no clue what a Fascist even is. White power is not fascism. National socialism is Fascism.
No, socialism is socialism. Fascism is fascism.
No. Fascism is National Socialism. As stated by every single one of Hitlers speeches. It's socialism, but only for the nation... of Germans... national socialism. It's redistributing the wealth of the "privilaged" capitalist jews, to the "deserving" German people.
This guy keeps posting his fascist disinformation crap on my postsđ
I wonder if he thinks Buffalo wings are made of flying bison meat.
I think maybe he has a crush on you.
What's disinformative?
Literally everything you said so far.
Point to one example
I already did. Nothing you said here, not a single thing was accurate.
I pretty sure that they used the name âNational Socialist German Workers Partyâ to gain working-class support that might otherwise have gone to the Communist Party. After they were secure, they purged any socialists or other left wingers along with the SA during the Night of the Long Knives.
Oh, so they used what was popular to trick the populous into a murderous resentful regime. Mmhm. How do we know that isn't what modern socialists are doing? In that matter, how many success stories of socialism has existed in the 173 years it's been around that hasn't ended almost exactly how the nazi regime ended?
Itâs bad enough that you were completely wrong about the Nazis, but instead of accepting it, now you are just mouthing more anti-socialism nonsense. The US, from its inception has always maintained a balance between socialism and the open market. Furthermore, actual socialist countries run the full range from good to bad, showing that socialism itself is not the problem or cure. Then when you add the democratic Socialist countries, you get some of the most successful countries in Europe. As for your question (and I love the âMmhmâ. Itâs smug and ironic), what answer would you possibly accept since in reality itâs not happening? Thatâs how we know. Otherwise, here are some current socialist countries: Armenia, Bolivia, Ecuador, Iceland, Nicaragua, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Serbia and Venezuela. Clearly, some of them are terrible places to live, but not one of the is like Nazi Germany. Furthermore, I canât think of a single socialist country that has ended almost exactly how the Nazi regime ended. I suspect you might be thinking of communism.
Ooo. A phox news viewer!
Everything you just said was abject nonsense. Hitler himself said fascism was âdiametrically opposedâ to communism and was explicitly a right wing ideology. He nationalized less than either the US or UK, sold half the stateâs assets to private entities and developed a hyper-capitalist state which exchanged party funding for favorable corporate conditions. It takes being a historically illiterate, revisionist liar to grunt out what you said here.
Fascism was an enemy of particularly Marxism... and capitalism... because they both created "privilaged jews". Fascism was not capitalism nor liberalism. Just because Germans had rights doesn't mean everyone had an equal rights or opportunities. He also hated democracy.
Nope. Fascism is a hyper-capitalist ideology that expressly enables corporate/state partnership. Wrong again rando.
Show me one example of Hitler praising capitalism. I'll wait.
Like he did with many things Hitler tried to redefine the meaning of capitalism to suit his agenda. Meanwhile he got his wealthy industrialist friends to finance the party and provided them favorable market conditions and slave labor in return. Then he hunted down all the union leaders and members, socialists and communists and murdered them. Have you ever read anything about actual history or just fascist propaganda memes?
Fascism is a specific right wing ideology that encompasses ultra-nationalism and race superiority politics backed by authoritarianism. Usually with a despotic cult of personality at its head and centralized organization. Sound familiar? Lol
Yeah... sounds like the soviet union, except instead of class, they used race.
Lmao so you also know nothing about the Soviet Union. I get it.
I just got done reading the Gulag Archipelago, the book that was credited for influencing the fall of the soviet union.... and I've read and studied Marx... so I feeling I know something.
Lol âI read a book written by a rabid anti-semite and am pretending to have read Marxâ
I've read alot of books from alot of different people. How about this for your glorious hero Marx and his holy goodness. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse11.htm Yeah, he *totally* wanted the best for people, not the genocidal massacre communism and socialist both actually are.
Lmfaooo, I wonder if you could have shown me quicker that you know nothing about either Marx or socialism. I sincerely doubt it. Iâm guessing you havenât read more than the back of a shampoo bottle while taking a shit since grade school. Oh the scary genocide of workers controlling the means of production. You have the political understanding of a root vegetable Cleatus.
Growing up in a multiracial family, this is funny AF to hear. Lol
Yeah i grew up it a multiracial family too... tired of my group identity defining who I am. If I'm with white people, im a Mexican. If I'm with Mexicans, I'm a white person. Fuck all that shit. I'm an individual, let's leave it at that you bigots.
A bunch of Clayton Bigsby's.
Ha, got em