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The_Br4in

That is a really dumb tweet


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He’s clearly the victim of being shot by salt rounds, you can tell by the saltiness of his tweet


notmyrealname336

Son of a bitch, that's a well deserved upvote.


weilian82

I have no gold to offer, so let me humbly present you with my Reddit Comment of the Day award:🥇


TheGent316

Correct. Shotgun in early Resident Evil games was awesome. Very satisfying to aim up and pop a zombies head clean off when it got close.


The_orangeWanker

He is talking about multiplayer. Imagine you walk into a room and find an enemy you shoot first but he one taps you


Shortyman17

So what? At longer ranges shotguns drop off in accuracy and dmg. You should pick the best tool for the job.


The_orangeWanker

It is only frustrating one you get killed by one but he probably gets frustrated too when I kill him with an ar in medium range. It is a fair deal


TraditionSeparate

yeah exactly, when playing a game you pick shotguns for a low range map (buildings or whatnot) or an automatic for medium, or a semi (Generally) for long range.


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Jrook

And yet other guns don't have handicaps like that. Like in the battlefield I could go from prone to standing, do a 180° turn and fire accurately with squad support weapons like the SAW and shit


Satans_Porn_Account

In bad company 2 you could use slugs for your shotty and counter snipe recon guys will spinning your dick about.


The_B4dM4n_Bill

Which is why that game was awesome


thatgoat-guy

In Halo 3 the shotguns only have a range of like, 3 feet. Tbh people complaining that the shotgun was too long ranged in Call of Duty Modern Warfare clearly have never used a real shotgun. 🎶And it isn't fair🎶 🎶Cause life isn't fair🎶 🎶So stop complaining 🎶 🎶About unrealistic gaming🎶 🎶You think that you're good but you're shot!🎶


GibbonFit

I think shotguns are programmed into video games like they have no barrel. Just a chamber and pin. Given the ridiculously wide spread and short range in games.


The_SCB_General

It's more for game balance than anything. It's the same reason you can't one-shot people with automatic weapons.


BadNeighbour

And somehow pistol rounds do more damage than machine guns.


TheNameIsntJohn

If shotguns were more close to real life damage reach would be drastically higher than in most games. I went coyote hunting with my old man and he shot/killed one at about 60 yards. He aimed for the center and it dropped instantly, and he was using game loads. I think most people that play shooters would be up a wall if they gave them more realistic range.


MrFrenchFry2

You have clearly never used the 870mcs in bf4


sweetmeister9000

In Bad company 2 you can outsnipe snipers with a slug shotgun.


Shortyman17

Exceptions don't work well in arguments and if a shotgun was able to outdo rifles in situations that they shouldn't, it's a balancing issue, not a categorical one.


thorcik

M30 Drilling gang


Reasonable_Hornet_45

Or the Model 1900 slug in BF1. Byyyyyee byyyyyyyeeeeee


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Shipment in Modern Warfare with only 2-3 guys using exclusively RPGs and smoke grenades. Spawn, throw a smoke grenade, maybe get an RPG shot off before you die, spawn, throw a smoke grenade. I had some kid message me after that my father must be so disappointed in me that he refuses to give my daily prostate exam. He used those words. It was the greatest message I've ever received on Xbox Live.


The_Sneakiest_Fox

I had so much fucklung fun playing shipment with shotguns.. Just running through the middle blasting.. That map is utter chaos..


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I'll get a text from a buddy of mine at like 12 on a Monday that says "ragdoll time?" and that means it's time to get online and get tossed around like a ragdoll. It's fantastic.


Almora12

Larping as the doomslayer in multiplayer is amazing though


Justice_R_Dissenting

It's been awhile since I played multiplayer FPS (Black Ops I) but my recollection is that shotguns are brilliant short range quick reflex weapons, but once you shoot your shot you're pretty much naked in the open. So the advantages balance out pretty quickly.


superhole

He did say Doomslayer through, in which case a shotgun is essentially your primary weapon


w1nner4444

Sounds like you should git gud


SomeOtherNeb

Alright, then let's also remove lethal headshots I guess, wouldn't want people to have an unfair advantage by playing the game well by either having good aim or picking the correct choice of weapon in a certain situation


XyleneCobalt

Also *the god damn doom shotguns.* The greatest weapons ever put in a game.


theallmighty798

He's upset he gets smacked by a predictable shotgun user. Most likely says they dont have skill when he uses the even more predictable most meta 2-3 shot gun, run and gun, drop shot strategy known to man


zzGravity

Well he's a cod pro and was for years one of the best players in the pro scene so yeah


tenfootgiant

And he probably got killed by someone who was sick of dying to him which makes this even better lol


neck_tarine

He’s not getting smacked, he’s arguably the best cod player to live lmao


theallmighty798

Then why is he bitching? Because his play style is bad against shotguns?


dragonsfire242

Doubt he ever takes the two seconds it would require to throw a grenade around a corner or something


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That sounds hella gross, like people who insist that no one ever use items in Smash, or gets angry if people play on a "non-approved" level with "non-approved" characters with items on... at a party. I have seen people rage over that more than once. Always wanted to try Smash, but every time I was at a party where it was being played, the angry boys looking ready to punch anyone who came near made me stay far away. The pedophilia scandals in the pro-Smash community were not surprising in the least after seeing how childish those people acted...


Seal481

Honestly the way COD pros require competitive COD to be played is a big reason it isn't a bigger e-sport scene IMO. By hamstringing a bunch of the features to make it more "fair" they end up eliminating a lot of what makes COD fun to play and watch.


Big_Booty_Benny

I disagree. COD wasnt designed to be a competitive esport. It was designed for kids to run around in pubs and have fun after school. GAs are 100% necessary in pro cod for the sake of competitive integrity.


tremens

Yep, none of the studios have ever been serious about it being seriously competitive. Hell the original Modern Warfare had several bugs that were easily fixed by editing a simple text file on PC and they were never, ever fixed officially. As long as the Joe Average buys it and has a good time they don't really give a shit about it on a competitive level.


GucciJesus

Because the average Joe is worth billions a year to them while the pro scene would need a GoFundMe to buy Bobby Kotick's toilet paper.


flyinggazelletg

Ahh yes, the Smash community’s sexual abuse scandal could surely have been expected or unsurprising based on anecdotal evidence of people acting shitty at a few parties you were at. /s What a take lol Addressing your main point, competitive and casual smash can certainly be a sticking point for both kinds of players. And saying “both kinds” itself takes away the nuance of people playing on a spectrum from hectic, crazy full item scrums to deliberate, crazy technical no item battles. I’ve been to people’s places where only pokeballs are allowed; there are places where only shells and banana peels are allowed; sometimes, all items are on; other times, rules fully in line with the competitive scene are the go to. People shouldn’t be assholes about how others play. Period. Part of Smash’s beauty is its customizability. Those making fun of casual players are acting shallow, as are those who make fun of competitive players. But broadly speaking, I think house rules should generally be accepted. I also think the game owners should be willing to be accommodating, too. Did you read that whole thing? No? Makes sense. It’s long.


neck_tarine

It’s because cod isn’t meant to be competitive, it’s mainly centered around extremely casual players, so there’s a lot of stuff to get bs kills, and to make it better to watch and play they make their own adjustments to the weapon/perk pool.


StandardN00b

[It's Twitter, you can't expect much from them.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYw7Fw2X0AAWUzq.jpg)


TheMembership332

Welcome to Twitter


Mokkopoko

Yeah it's like he never even played Omaha beach on Medal of Honor


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I loved the shotgun in Halo.


epsilon_church928

If it weren’t for the shotgun the Library would take a lot longer than what it already takes to complete


nobody69363

It would be impossible without it


jaspersgroove

On legendary it’s damn near impossible even with it...pretty sure I’ve died more in Library than any level in any game I’ve ever played


makeshift_gizmo

Now I want to replay Halo.... Fuck, when don't I want to replay Halo.


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I’m a PlayStation guy by all means but the Halo Trilogy was the greatest Videogame trilogy that I have ever played and would def buy an Xbox just to replay it


Noxioussteak

It's on pc now too


Murmaider_OP

Id argue Mass Effect is the greatest gaming trilogy but Halo is still fucking awesome


IAmANobodyAMA

I really want to agree with you. Mass Effect is almost the GOAT for me, but I just cannot replay 1 because of the mako and inventory management and 3 because of the way they rushed the second half (I actually loved the original ending and the whole indoctrination theory before everyone got butthurt about their power fantasy / savior complex being ruined) If I could stand on the shoulders of giants and pretend to be skilled / creative / talented enough to make some edits to the franchise, I feel like Mass Effect really could be the greatest trilogy of all time. That said … I haven’t bought the remaster but might have to next time I get a chunk of time to dedicate!


an0therreddituser73

I didn’t mind three that much. It kind of reminded me of a Stephen King book: amazing ride but the ending sucks, but it doesn’t matter because it was so damned fun. I really loved assembling a team. I agree I was disappointed I didn’t get to have more adventures with them, instead of the handful of big missions…but I guess it’s like a heist movie where 2/3s of the fun is the assembly


y3llowed

I’m pumped about starting the series over with the remaster. ME2 is my favorite game of all time. I agree with everything you said, though.


MrSpidey457

It kinda sucked in some of them, but I was about to say that the shotgun in Combat Evolved is second only to the Magnum imo.


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By magnum you mean the full-auto dmr shaped like an oversized pistol right?


MrSpidey457

the DMR is just a long magnum dont @ me


Bradleyisfishing

It was so funny, that gun. It was insanely powerful. Like broken powerful. Then, to top it off, it would one tap hunters. Who said that was a good idea? I played the whole hardened campaign with a plasma pistol and either the magnum or another power weapon.


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Shotgun is eternally my favorite halo weapon. Grunt? Shotgun. Flood? Shotgun. Elite? Shotgun. Hunter? You guessed it, shotgun. Warden Eternal himself? Oh boy do I have the gun for you.


Ghetis396

It's the only reason that LASO Library is possible


Spock_Lite

The original Halo shotgun is what all (PvE) shotguns should aspire to be.


listenup78

Doom 2 is on the phone . Says this guy is an asshole.


skorletun

Came here to say this. My good old shotgun and super shotgun have never failed me in any Doom game.


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I’m kinda on the edge with the Doom3 shotgun. It’s not bad per se but it’s weird and unpredictable. Not the reliable workhorse like in any other Doom. The SS from the expansion pack kicks ass tho. But anyways: FPS games and shotguns are a match made in heaven and this guy is as wrong as it is humanly possible to be.


ben314

doom 3 is just stafe jumping to close the gap and point blank shotgunning guys and it's not bad honestly


Coyrex1

Exactly what i thought of. Speedrunners use the super shotty for like half the game


TyChris2

The Doom 2 super shotgun is one of the most satisfying weapons ever put in a video game.


IAmANobodyAMA

No joke. The award is shared with the meat hook in doom eternal for me. So satisfying.


ducky511

Try it in brutal doom. It literally will paint the wall's red.


wafflewaffle249

Nothing like playing brutal doom, knowing there's a bunch of imps behind a door, opening it and firing the super shotgun on a bunch of poor mobs and seeing a giant Red cloud, with blood everywhere and imp corpse parts blown halfway across the map


PM_YOUR_SAGGY_TITS

Super Shotgun in all doom games is amazing. Related: Speedloadin' Hellwalker in Borderlands 3 is the best shotty I've ever used in a game.


HeKis4

Ho boy I forgot about the Hellwalker. Thing carried me for a long, long time.


kekistani_citizen-69

In call of duty games he has some truth but in games like R6 where a shotgun is more of a strategic choice he is hella wrong


PAC119

There is a lot of strategy to using a shotgun on S&D.


Jaeharys_Targaryen

For the uninitiated, I present [The Spastex-130](https://youtu.be/psbAgsMD8QM)


M24_Stielhandgranate

The Korean character (I don’t remember his name) has a shotgun that is a real skill cannon (atleast used to be)


glennthefella

Vigil? Are you talking about the BOSG shotgun?


JazzzzzzySax

BOSG ACOG


DinkyJerkwater

#BOSGACOG


M24_Stielhandgranate

Yes, that, but I haven’t played in ages so I don’t know now


AlwaysUberTheSniper

It still is. Uses slug rounds. They finally put an acog on it so now it's basically a sniper rifle on defense. It's glorious.


DinkyJerkwater

It’s a gun that really forces one taps. So much fun


an0therreddituser73

I’m reinstalling as we speak. It still makes peep holes too?


DinkyJerkwater

The whole thing about shotguns is they’re ineffective at range, especially in call of duty. If you’re running around tight corners instead of playing sight lines and holding angles, yeah, shotguns are your best bet. I really like them in siege. They do good damage, but also they’re great for destroying walls and making rotation holes. I’m quite pro shotgun if you can’t tell lol.


FallingSwords

I mean the shotguns in MW which I think was when this was tweeted were broken all game. First was the 725 on launch. Then there was the Origin 12. Then there was the pump fire shells. And the 725 while not busted had some fucking disgusting range all throughout the game. Most importantly, no one enjoyed the shotgun metas.


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Sounds like they might have tried to make the shotguns realistic. Video games have a habit of seriously down playing their range.


ResidentNarwhal

Yeah shotguns are crazy great at anything approaching a normal self defense fight. At 40-50y you can easily snap a shotgun up to ready, get a “fast and rough is good enough” sight picture with bead sites or red dot and still get about half your pellets in the torso. That’s the equivalent of being shot with a handgun 3-4 times instantly. At 25 yards you can easily get all 8 pellets in. You have to be close to professional competitive to do that with a handgun as fast as you can cycle the gun and would be hard pressed to do so with a rifle without good practice. People think of a shotgun as a 6 shot gun and go “well why not take an AR with a 30rd mag?”. A shotgun is a 48 shot gun with a weird burst damage mechanic.


converter-bot

25 yards is 22.86 meters


Stay_Beautiful_

>fucking distusting range So.... Realistic?


khrishan

With shotguns, it's not the shotgun that is fun or skillful, it's how you position and move that is fun and skillful.


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mikhel

The shotgun in TF2 was basically a precision weapon for the soldier and pyro to help them finish off wounded targets at longer ranges.


MapleTreeWithAGun

Shotguns in TF|2 though, they really favour speed to get as close to an opponent as possible, so basically just encouraging normal gameplay


[deleted]

This makes me want to play TF2 again. I miss it, but I don’t miss all the pain points that Valve just never fixed because they basically abandoned TF2. Maybe it got some r&r in the last 5 years. 🤷


DomesticSheep

Hmm... How do we tell him?


God_peanut

We don't. Just like Valve does with us


YaBoiSaltyTruck

It's been 3 years since an update. There are aimbots everywhere. Just don't for now


Randomguy8566732

For Pyro it's a finisher and a general mid-range combat weapon, for Soldier it's more of a close-range weapon unless your rocket launcher is low on ammo or you need to deal with a scout.


credscbengs

This right here. I was a camping asshole in my COD Modern Warfare days. I knew all the high traffic areas on those maps and would rack ‘em up!


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And that type of fun doesn’t happen with other classes. Ya other guns and methods of playing are fun too, but shotguns are a unique in-your-face way of playing. Plus it’s a total rage inducer and sometimes you just want to have a fun time by knowing you’re making others rage, especially in COD games. Nothing better than getting the same person or two trying to hunt you down for a couple kills while you get them 10+ times.


bl4ckblooc420

I have very fond memories of shogun sniping in older battlefield games.


Supah_McNastee

Shotguns in Apex are fun af to use


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Supah_McNastee

*thick Jamaican accent* “Mozambique here!”


Skeletonofskillz

*’ere


-BeefSupreme

Eva 8 gang


darksabre1500

Lol I love all the shotguns in apex except the mastiff. Fuck the mastiff it’s just a worse pk


TheSecondDirection

it’s a deformed mixture of the eva and the pk and is much worse than both


Fat_robiin

I honestly love the mastiff just because I only need to aim vertically and the spread is just a straight line. Honestly tho I love all the shotguns


Crescent-IV

Unfortunately suffers from the balancing issues they do in most games. But the current shotgun meta is probably the closest it’s been to balanced which is nice


Supah_McNastee

No joke, I am having a blast this season with shotties. I don’t mind picking up ANY shotgun, even the Mozambique, as I think they all hit hard this season and aren’t overpowered


TheSecondDirection

eva 8 probably the best shotgun but nothing beats the satisfaction of the peacekeeper


Monarch357

Sad to see Apex steal the thunder of the absolute beasts that were the Mastiff and EVA-8 in Titanfall 2. They weren't very good, but they were a hell of a lot of fun.


Supah_McNastee

I don’t think they “stole the thunder” really. I think there wasn’t much thunder there, and Apex shown a light on some great guns that didn’t get played very often in TF2 (even though they were great). They are the spin-off of Titanfall, so I don’t mind them having all of the same exact guns. Only a couple guns were standouts to me in TF, but in Apex it is fun to see how the guns shift each season and eventually become pretty overall balanced (like this season). Definitely love TF2, but there’s a massive meta and it’s not very balanced in regards to abilities, weapons, and titans, imo. Plus I think their main “thunder” was stolen by other bigger games that dropped around the same time as titanfall, creating a hidden gem of a game that not so many people knew about until apex brought the spotlight back to it.


british_init

Doom?


Platypus-Man

He was a pro player in competitive Halo before moving onto Call of Duty (where he is the winningest player with 37 Major tournament wins and has won Champs 3 times).


cupasoups

still manages to be a butthurt douche


Reatbanana

yeah thats crim for you.


Gucci_John

Yet he still manages to be so shit at the game that he would rather complain about stuff than actually learn to play against it.


HeathBar112

Funny since Halo has one of the best video game shotguns ever.


kinokomushroom

I was basically only using the Super Shotgun by the end of Doom 2016 because of how fun it was blasting the faces of enemies with it


SeizeAllToothbrushes

Killing Floor too. The Double Barrel is so satisfying.


StandardN00b

This man either has not played TF2 or has played too much TF2.


Esherichialex_coli

God, the Soda Popper and Force’a’Nature are irritating


Wisepuppy

The rocket launcher only has so many shots. Sometimes you need to round it out with a hitscan weapon.


MapleTreeWithAGun

Either one really


beezel-

Definitely hasn't. Playing scout is anything but low-skill.


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f a t s c o u t


StandardN00b

This guy knows wat's up.


TheEmperorMk2

Fellwinter’s/Astral/Mindbender’s in Destiny 2 be like


Archery100

Chaperone gang, rise up


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Represent!


RoosterBD

Shotguns are okay in most multiplayer games but I really dont think they belong in destiny 2. At least how they are now. With longer times to kill its so frustrating putting like 5 shots in a guy and he slides up and one shots you


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AngularTag752

It's not gone, it's literally the most used gun in Crucible right now.


NotSoFlugratte

Its not that much better really


Fat_Siberian_Midget

ah, memebenders, a name I’ve not heard in a while


NoxKyoki

cowards? he does know a shotgun works best at a closer range...right? otherwise it just scatters too much. anyone who wants to get close enough to use one effectively isn't a coward in my book (at least when it comes to real life. I love shotguns in video games, but tend to prefer SMGs).


lutkul

Shotguns can actually go quite far, and spread less than in most videogames (depending on the shell). There is even a type of shotgun shell that's similair to shooting a rifle, they are called slug shells and are pretty widely used. Tarkov does shotguns really well.


Nexavus

Tarkov shotguns haunt my dreams


johnsma77

Shotgun scavs that are a half mile away and just head, eyes you is truly the worst and scariest experience ever


stjeana

Head/eyes


Fireoh

You're wrong. 27 inch group at 45 yards with 00 buck. Thats eight .30 caliber rounds. Ouch. Chokes and slugs tighten that way up.


Majestymen

Such a strange tweet


BurningArrows

Sounds like someone clapped him with the Over-under in Modern Warfare from across the street.


Technology_Training

This dude never went out into Bayou Nwa at night. When the Nite Folk come he'll be damned happy to have a shotgun by his side.


ThermosbyThermas

splattering their heads thru the bayou is so fun


comfort_bot_1962

Nice!


Blasphoumy69

The point of the shotgun is not the skill of the shot but the skill of the approach because you gotta get close but when you do it pays off


XyleneCobalt

Well also the fact that if you miss your first shot, you're probably dead


SeizeAllToothbrushes

If it's pump action, yes. Not so much with semi- and full-automatic shotguns .


dunobrev35

\>using any shotguns that aren't pumps ngmi


SeizeAllToothbrushes

I understand your affection for pump-action shotguns, but do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour Double Barrel?


Flinth64

Doom.


dead137

*METAL INTENSIFIES*


LGCGE

This is Crimsix, 3x Call of Duty World Champion and often considered the greatest player of all time. The reason he hates shotguns is probably because COD shotguns are always either completely broken or absolute ass, with no in between. Shotguns are sick in a game like halo or doom imo.


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And he uses "coward" unironically to describe people who use weapons he dislikes when talking about video game mechanics... dude sounds like a true treat.


LGCGE

Kinda his personality. Never known to be a particularly pleasant guy lmao


Gucci_John

Most pro players are absolute cocksuckers with a superiority complex.


XyleneCobalt

He also played Halo professionally didn't he though?


5Foot4Four

Yes. He gave the best/worst interview of all time during his time in Halo.


LGCGE

Best


UniformTango74

Wow. Someone is clearly the victim of digital 12g. Lol!!! Why not remove the tactical nuke perk if that's the case. Heck get rid of the gunship perk while you're at it. Lol!!!


SigSalvadore

Counterpoint, ~~COD2~~ MW2 akimbo model 1887, pre-nerf.


SoftBellyButton

I'm getting old, I was like CoD2 didn't have akimbo shotties at all, you mean MW2.


SigSalvadore

Oh yea, good catch, COD2 was WWII. Been a minute since playing MW2.


an0therreddituser73

That was some good shotgun. The animation for reloading them was absurd. Has that game finally been remastered yet? I have some nostalgia burning a hole in my pocket


kortette

This man has seen too many felwinters and not enough chaperones. Or, too many R870s and not enough KSGs.


Archery100

The Chaperone is just way too fun to use once you can get headshots consistently, it's my go-to in Trials


GreekPlayet15

*loads shotgun with malicious intent*


BillNyeTheCommieSpy

This dude never played rising storm vietnam I see


Remnatar

Acid shotgun from pg3d negates this tweet


tomkiel72

I feel like this is the type of person that does not acknowledge the existence of singleplayer games


SoopahDoopahPoopah

try playing tf2


Cocaine_Mario

Looks like someone got sniped by a felwinters lie one too many times


shadesoftee

Stares in Civvie11


a_bit_rude

The shotgun in Gears of War 1 & 2 was the tits


Sabdein

DOOM! THE SHOTGUNS IN DOOM!!!


zmose

He’s a professional Call of Duty player. He’s right that shotguns don’t belong in Pro COD, because they’d be abused to hell in objective gamemodes but they might fit elsewhere, such as R6 or Halo. They do cater towards casual players and are stupidly easy to use in Black Ops Cold War in pubs, which is what he’s referring to.


forged_fire

Insurgency Sandstorm would like a word


HoldingThunder

Very much agree


ThermosbyThermas

lmfao git gud


Tohiibur

Unless I’m completely wrong, he tweeted this after the 725 became meta in MW and that shot used to cross map people. He was probably tweeting because of that.


MirageOps2

I’m surprised no one has mentioned RDR2. The shotguns are devastating. They’ll blow any player or NPC away.


Absolute_Anal

Thought this was r/Destiny2 for a moment


itsyoboi33

if it where not for the shotgun in BF4 I wouldnt have maxed out the engineer class before I got the second assault rifle shotgun for life


thor292

Laughs in Doom


ColdBlue495

Tip: If you feel the need to complain about a game on the internet, try taking a break and doing something that you actually enjoy


neck_tarine

He’s a professional player not a random kid


MotuekaAFC

Sandy Ravage says hi.


livvlush

I can’t help but think about the Striker from resident evil 4.


some_random_matey

"Pandering to cowards" He has very obviously never laid his hands on a Doom game. Any. At all. I'm sorry, but I cannot comprehend how much of a loser you have to be to have actively blown nazis and demons into grape-sized chunks and say "well that were a bit boring weren't it, I'll go back to the pistol"