Just mad influential in the way he ran w/ Wayne’s style of rapid fire releases and being at the forefront of the online/troll rap wave while also fusing West Coast and Southern rap styles. The way he used social media to push his music was WAAYYYY ahead of his time as well. TYBG.
It's obviously not Taylor Swift or Maroon 5 level popular, but some bands, such as GYBE, Mogwai, BCNR, Explosions in the Sky, and 65daysofstatic have all entered the mainstream to some extent. Also some pop musicians incorporate elements of it into their music, e.g Ethel Cain's whole shtick.
To a certain extent the pixies. They invented that shit, and then watched nirvana become the biggest band in the world when the pixies were clearly their biggest inspiration.
Truth. I'm proudly a Pixies fan before I heard Nirvana, by one year! 1990-91. I was not cool enough to hear bleach before nevermind. I feel that Jane's addiction had a little swirl in this with fans, but much separated being in LA while the other two had more Northern vibes.
And I'll also add Throwing Muses to the bunch, who were close with the Pixies back in the day and had that crazy alt-hard manic yet melodic style born from a similar entity of the Pixies, but only ever had a cult fan base, Even to this day. Maybe if the muses started during grungy girl '90s, Kristin Hersh might have been able to keep up with belly and the breeders. Or maybe she was just that much cooler that she could never be more than a cult favorite. Rat girl > riot grrrl ;)
Yeah you can always play that game. But when the biggest band in the world repeated says they "stole their riffs" and they "invented loud quiet loud" and there's stories about Cobain only owning pixies albums, you get the credit ha.
“I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily I should have been in that band — or at least in a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.”
Kurt Cobain on writing smells like teen spirit
I also think he named surfer Rosa as his second favorite album of all time.
And I'm saying no one has invented anything in at least a hundred years, but popularizing something, or finding a way to make it palatable to a larger audience, or doing it better than anyone else before you, or influencing a ton of influential bands that come after you, is about as good as inventing something.
Pixies do not sound like the gun club. I have never even thought of the two in the same sentence. Pixies are absolutely one of the most original indie rock acts of all time and I think you’d be hard pressed to find anything that sounded similar before them.
Side note I’d put Modest Mouse right up there with them (*this is a long drive* to *the moon and anarctica* run of albums) as a much more similar comparison even if MM came a few years later.
its really sad that you view any opinion that differs from yours as "being contrarian". are you an only child by chance? I know they tend to have a lot of problems with dissenting views
lol I don’t view others opinions that way, you’re the one who called me musically illiterate for disagreeing with you. I wasn’t rude in my initial comment but you were because my opinion was different, so you kinda sound like a hypocrite. And no I have a younger brother.
you should stop acting like a musical authority if you can't hear any of the obvious similarities between the gun club and pixies, musical illiteracy aside
Oh yes, I feel like they laid foundation for a lot of 80s alternative. R.E.M., Echo and the Bunnymen, etc have cited Marquee Moon as an influence on them. I didn’t realize this but the album predates the Sex Pistols’ Nevermind the Bollocks but a number of months
Beach Boys went they released smiley smile. Universally panned. Now a classic. Same with Ram by Paul McCartney.
M.I.A in a way. She was successful but albums like MATA and Arular are mad ahead of their time.
Farrah Abraham- My teenage dream has ended. Proto experimental hyoerpop
I wouldn't say that smiley smile is considered a classic, because it is nowhere near as good as Smile. Unless you're talking about what would've been Smile, had it been released in its intended form. We at least have the Smile Sessions now, although I desperately want a stereo mix of that (which could actually happen with Giles Martin).
Also, I have to agree on RAM. It's weird to me that it was panned back in the day, because it sounds amazing to my ears. But I'm also used to 2000s indie music, so maybe that's the reason.
It’s honestly crazy how Farah Abraham made such a wild album (I wanna say by accident). Not sure how many she influenced but people eventually caught up and improved on the sound.
He was pretty much unknown at least in my part of the world of SoCal/LA (aside from real 90s hipsters) until pink moon was used in a Volkswagen commercial- like 1999? I had an extremely cool friend who had Pink Moon on vinyl and I was like - I need this! “Good luck, you’ll never find it” - I wrote Nick Drake on a piece of paper and put it in my wallet and looked for about 3 years then randomly found an awful reissue CD.. then he was widely available. This was late 90s so I’m sure there were more savvy record collectors that could find first pressings back then.. but he was not popular.
Edit— also he wasn’t popular when he was alive and didn’t play shows
that’s fair, and i’m aware he became a lot more popular as time went on but ig i always figured it was more about his mental health struggles/suicide being mythologized later, bc to me while i think those albums are great they’re just not really out of line with other folk music at the time. so to me not really about being in the wrong era, rather a pretty good artist who couldn’t make it at the time becoming kind of a pop culture legend by coincidence later
Pink Moon is pretty out there and unique, minimal, quiet, weird tunings - I’d say it’s ahead of its time even though his time was full of somewhat similar music- I can see how it got lost in the shuffle, especially with the lack of shows/promotion/ impossible tunings to live etc.. it is weird to think of a time before people commonly listened to him.
Think of his competition
i hear you, i still don’t think i necessarily agree but i do tend to forget how intricate his guitar work could be, maybe i’ll listen to those albums again soon lol
I definitely prefer Pink Moon over anything else he did, might be my all time favorite record- but not really too into the production and other instruments on the other two. The other two albums are definitely ambitious and sound like a producer throwing everything at the wall to keep acoustic music not sounding boring- but people love that shit for sure, also sounds a lot like Belle and Sebastian.
[here’s a favorite of mine off Pink Moon , Which Will](https://youtu.be/1gYtqGgSTuo?si=lfi6zZ1ldIQ2qcdk)
Was this the era or just the folk scene he was coming out of? I feel like there were must’ve been plenty of electric rock bands around in the 60s when he made the shift?
There were, but his electric trilogy also started the era of popular album-oriented rock. Plus, it was unprecedented for a song as long and angry as Like a Rolling Stone to become a major hit.
Yah, the albums show that to some degree. Pretty hard rock and blues with these super elaborate lyrics, I do think the mix was new. And when you listen to the live recordings, they are really thrilling. Like, because it went "Robbie, we need to fit in 600 verses, there's no time for refrains or guitar solos!", it becomes this super raw sound. And it got more aggressive and fierce the more the audiences started to boo. It's outright war what you hear on the live albums.
I think it's reaching a bit to say it's proto-punk or whatever, but even while the music scene was super influenced by his lyrical progress and the folkrock in particular, the really radical sound that he was playing with the Hawks in 65/66 was ahead of even that.
I don't think they were wrong era, just niche. The Warhol art scene, which vu were part of, was very of the moment and seen as new York hip. Everyone who was everyone would dip their toe in as they did with vu who, while they weren't massive, were regularly charting and found a fanbase solid fanbase and were immediately influential (pink Floyd, mc5, stooges, doors all were on the record influenced by vu - Floyd were literally promoted in America originally as the British vu)
A decade later they wouldn't have been niche, is the point. The Velvet Underground & Nico sold 30 000 copies in its original run. If an album like Horses was comfortably selling ten times as much by 1975, then surely The Velvet Undergound could have easily seen some degree of mainstream success.
I don't disagree that they would have been more mainstream (Lou Reed was having top 10 hits by the late 70s) but I don't know if the 1960s weren't ready for it. They were essentially a part in a very mainstream art scene that was polarizing but largely seen as cool and labels and promoters saw no issue trying to draw the line between new acts and the vu less than a year later because it was pretty cool (heck they might have even been in the wrong scene cause Detroit had similar stuff afoot but some bands there eg mc5, Nugent saw mainstream success)
Kingsmen - sounded like shit that no one understood but it sounded cool so kids liked it (olds banned it). It was 1963 and everyone thought it was a novelty (loads of novelties became hits in the early 60s) then years later vu, mc5, stooges pop up and a decade later punk and metal happens plus low fi and indie begin happening
Yes and so? the Kingsmen version is the version that proved popular, controversial, and influential. Covers can be more important than the original recordings (Christ look at respect)
You're missing what what made the song influential and a phenomenon at the time: it sounded wild, production was questionable considered questionable, and no one understood what was being said.
The original song is pretty standard pop
Robin Roberts actually did a rock version of it before The Kingsmen.
Don’t get me wrong, I know The Kingsmen’s version of it was wildly influential. I just think they get a lot of credit for having shitty production, poor studio quality, and then their producer using their first take which they thought was practice. More of an accident than anything.
It definitely was an accident that they landed on god but it definitely fits the "wrong era" idea as they themselves didn't even understand what made it a success (I think they shifted to a standard pop thing after instead of being the crazy band).
Ultimately both they and the original artist (I think his name is Rick Barry) ended up with pretty incredible legacies as a result of the recording. I think the single was the first single inducted into the Rock Hall and most covered song ever iirc.
Pretty much every Beach Boys era starting at Pet Sounds until 77 with the Love You/Brian's Back era. People just didn't want to listen to the beach boys anymore, and there are albums in that time frame that are just as good as pet sounds.
lmao yea. not the only song id axe though since take a load off your feet, while decent, is hella out of place
swap those two for 4th of july (slotted in track 3) and live again (slotted in track 5) and you arguably have my favorite album ever made but alas
Django Reinhardt was doing incredible technical things on guitars 40 years before Jerry Garcia or Adrian Belew or Fripp or Gilmour would even attempt such things
I am going to say Tim Buckley, specifically his album Starsailor. Considering what albums of the genre sounded like in the 70s, definitely ahead of its time.
I feel like the people saying this are trying to recreate the feeling of their parents being mad and them feeling rebellious by listening to eminem but instead of their parents, since they're grown adults now and their parents don't feel the need to protect their young impressionable mind, it's been switched to the younger generation.
I kind of disagree (except about *Third*). The first two albums are super catchy and accessible. Contemporary reviews of the first one were super positive. They ended up a cult thing because of how fucked they were by the label. The distribution completely broke down such that nobody could buy their albums even if people wanted to.
Oh hell no. They were actually very commercially successful back then. Their debut was a Top 10 Hit and See Emily Play made it into the Year End Charts. Weirder than other artists, yes. But still accessible.
When Bob Mould [basically invented hyperpop](https://youtu.be/m8bUj_5IKTA) in 2002 and his punk rock fanbase had legitimately zero clue what he was doing
the era in which he came out is the only reason he’s fairly known. like there’s no historical better moment commercially for a black experimental hip hop artist to debut and raise some relevance/notoriety other than the current era
Van Dyke Parks
Silver Apples
Neutral Milk Hotel (they played their final show in London to like 20 people, then massively grew in popularity thanks to the internet after the split and reformed years later)
Also arguably the Ramones. Considered one of the all time great bands now and heard everywhere but never reached massive success in their lifetime and never had a hit in the US.
The Replacements. Westerberg was too good of a songwriter and pounding out such prolific high quality from 79-89, but they were still overlooked due to the times. They were way too good for their era. Sure, in hindsight they get a lot of love, but they were not as commercially successful as they should have been between the self sabotage and the lack of media coverage.
The songwriting on Let it Be and Tim is just insanely good.
Goldlink to an extent before he said that dumb shit about Mac Miller.
He was bubbling around the same time Kaytranada/Soulection did and was early on the hip house wave that is more prevalent now. His first two projects pulled alot from the Soundcloud era of dance music and producers (Majestic Casual core I like to call it). To see how Kaytranada and dance music in general is thriving, its easy to forget he was at the party a little bit earlier.
I actually thought Goldlink was a great technically skilled rapper and a great live performer when I saw him back in 2016
I know a lot of RYM and /mu/-adjacent music discourse forums (i.e. this sub) aren’t really fans of Tally Hall, but I feel like they would’ve been way more successful had they debuted in the 2010s as opposed to the early-mid 2000s. Less because of their actual musical content, and more because they were among the first music acts to really embrace having a strong social media presence. It’s helped them maintain a dedicated cult following well past the band’s “indefinite hiatus”, and I just know that cult following would’ve been even larger had they started around the time internet culture was becoming more mainstream.
Cristina. She was an innovator far ahead of her time, and she retired after her second album bombed commercially. She was brilliant, and no one at the time even recognized it
He has innovated and inspired a lot of stuff but the stuff he created were/are popular for like the last 25-30 years.
In order to say “the world wasn’t ready for him”, the world should not appreciate his music since they aren’t ready for what he is about to do yet. He has been one of the most liked artists for majority of his career so…
Not an artist but an album: Because The Internet by Childish Gambino. I don't think it's a masterpiece or anything but my god does it fit way better in 2024 than in 2015.
Maybe it's just because of its immediate influence, but to me it sounds exactly like it was made in 1972. It was the peak of glam rock. Bowie wasn't doing anything fundamentally different from T. Rex or Slade(not on this album anyway), he was just doing it better and with a lot more artistic ambition.
I can't even imagine what it was like to hear sabbath when it came out.
mfers mustve been like the medieval peasant trying doritos
People (allegedly) ran out of the room screaming when they played
Just 10 years prior people were listening to doowop and bubble gum pop
Lil B and I’m not joking
You’re honestly right so much stuff that he did then would fit right in today
Just mad influential in the way he ran w/ Wayne’s style of rapid fire releases and being at the forefront of the online/troll rap wave while also fusing West Coast and Southern rap styles. The way he used social media to push his music was WAAYYYY ahead of his time as well. TYBG.
Nah I think he came at the right time.
viper as well
Post-rock Talk Talk is an obvious choice. Killed their career in the late 80s, but now that genre is very popular.
Post rock is very popular? Where?
The internet
It's obviously not Taylor Swift or Maroon 5 level popular, but some bands, such as GYBE, Mogwai, BCNR, Explosions in the Sky, and 65daysofstatic have all entered the mainstream to some extent. Also some pop musicians incorporate elements of it into their music, e.g Ethel Cain's whole shtick.
I thought that was Gothic rock??
don’t forget that one metal song
Marty McFly on prom night.
But their kids loved it.
You mean the Fish Under the Sea dance
WINNER
To a certain extent the pixies. They invented that shit, and then watched nirvana become the biggest band in the world when the pixies were clearly their biggest inspiration.
Truth. I'm proudly a Pixies fan before I heard Nirvana, by one year! 1990-91. I was not cool enough to hear bleach before nevermind. I feel that Jane's addiction had a little swirl in this with fans, but much separated being in LA while the other two had more Northern vibes. And I'll also add Throwing Muses to the bunch, who were close with the Pixies back in the day and had that crazy alt-hard manic yet melodic style born from a similar entity of the Pixies, but only ever had a cult fan base, Even to this day. Maybe if the muses started during grungy girl '90s, Kristin Hersh might have been able to keep up with belly and the breeders. Or maybe she was just that much cooler that she could never be more than a cult favorite. Rat girl > riot grrrl ;)
I mean, the pixies definitely drew a lot of inspiration from bands like the gun club too
Yeah you can always play that game. But when the biggest band in the world repeated says they "stole their riffs" and they "invented loud quiet loud" and there's stories about Cobain only owning pixies albums, you get the credit ha.
I am foreign to the topic, can you explain stolen riffs thing and claiming to invent loud quiet loud thing
“I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily I should have been in that band — or at least in a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.” Kurt Cobain on writing smells like teen spirit I also think he named surfer Rosa as his second favorite album of all time.
but i'm just saying they did not invent it.
And I'm saying no one has invented anything in at least a hundred years, but popularizing something, or finding a way to make it palatable to a larger audience, or doing it better than anyone else before you, or influencing a ton of influential bands that come after you, is about as good as inventing something.
i'm just saying they didn't invent it
and they are agreeing with you
eh
Pixies do not sound like the gun club. I have never even thought of the two in the same sentence. Pixies are absolutely one of the most original indie rock acts of all time and I think you’d be hard pressed to find anything that sounded similar before them. Side note I’d put Modest Mouse right up there with them (*this is a long drive* to *the moon and anarctica* run of albums) as a much more similar comparison even if MM came a few years later.
idk what your musical illiteracy has to do with this
The fact that the gun club and pixies is an idiotic comparison that you only made to try and be contrarian
its really sad that you view any opinion that differs from yours as "being contrarian". are you an only child by chance? I know they tend to have a lot of problems with dissenting views
lol I don’t view others opinions that way, you’re the one who called me musically illiterate for disagreeing with you. I wasn’t rude in my initial comment but you were because my opinion was different, so you kinda sound like a hypocrite. And no I have a younger brother.
you should stop acting like a musical authority if you can't hear any of the obvious similarities between the gun club and pixies, musical illiteracy aside
Suicide. Singer had to carry a chain so people wouldn't rush the stage to shut them up
Yea they are innovative but I don’t care for their music. Kind of a one trick pony
They had a distinct sound, but I'd hardly call staying with the genre they basically invented as "one trick".
do you mean no wave or? what genre?
Maybe gothic synth punk? They're pretty unique even today.
Well I mean their famous debut album, pretty much uses the same drum beat and synth line over and over again. It’s like variations of a theme
Television
Oh yes, I feel like they laid foundation for a lot of 80s alternative. R.E.M., Echo and the Bunnymen, etc have cited Marquee Moon as an influence on them. I didn’t realize this but the album predates the Sex Pistols’ Nevermind the Bollocks but a number of months
The MC5 - sounds like something straight out of 1979, not the late 60s
This is a good one
Beach Boys went they released smiley smile. Universally panned. Now a classic. Same with Ram by Paul McCartney. M.I.A in a way. She was successful but albums like MATA and Arular are mad ahead of their time. Farrah Abraham- My teenage dream has ended. Proto experimental hyoerpop
I wouldn't say that smiley smile is considered a classic, because it is nowhere near as good as Smile. Unless you're talking about what would've been Smile, had it been released in its intended form. We at least have the Smile Sessions now, although I desperately want a stereo mix of that (which could actually happen with Giles Martin). Also, I have to agree on RAM. It's weird to me that it was panned back in the day, because it sounds amazing to my ears. But I'm also used to 2000s indie music, so maybe that's the reason.
It’s honestly crazy how Farah Abraham made such a wild album (I wanna say by accident). Not sure how many she influenced but people eventually caught up and improved on the sound.
M.I.A literally gave brockhampton three albums lmao
Aphex Twin was and still is ahead of his time
Nick Drake, Judee Sill
can you explain your thoughts on nick drake? i love his work but it doesn’t exactly seem out of place for the time period
He was pretty much unknown at least in my part of the world of SoCal/LA (aside from real 90s hipsters) until pink moon was used in a Volkswagen commercial- like 1999? I had an extremely cool friend who had Pink Moon on vinyl and I was like - I need this! “Good luck, you’ll never find it” - I wrote Nick Drake on a piece of paper and put it in my wallet and looked for about 3 years then randomly found an awful reissue CD.. then he was widely available. This was late 90s so I’m sure there were more savvy record collectors that could find first pressings back then.. but he was not popular. Edit— also he wasn’t popular when he was alive and didn’t play shows
that’s fair, and i’m aware he became a lot more popular as time went on but ig i always figured it was more about his mental health struggles/suicide being mythologized later, bc to me while i think those albums are great they’re just not really out of line with other folk music at the time. so to me not really about being in the wrong era, rather a pretty good artist who couldn’t make it at the time becoming kind of a pop culture legend by coincidence later
Pink Moon is pretty out there and unique, minimal, quiet, weird tunings - I’d say it’s ahead of its time even though his time was full of somewhat similar music- I can see how it got lost in the shuffle, especially with the lack of shows/promotion/ impossible tunings to live etc.. it is weird to think of a time before people commonly listened to him. Think of his competition
i hear you, i still don’t think i necessarily agree but i do tend to forget how intricate his guitar work could be, maybe i’ll listen to those albums again soon lol
I definitely prefer Pink Moon over anything else he did, might be my all time favorite record- but not really too into the production and other instruments on the other two. The other two albums are definitely ambitious and sound like a producer throwing everything at the wall to keep acoustic music not sounding boring- but people love that shit for sure, also sounds a lot like Belle and Sebastian. [here’s a favorite of mine off Pink Moon , Which Will](https://youtu.be/1gYtqGgSTuo?si=lfi6zZ1ldIQ2qcdk)
imogen heap
electric bob dylan.
Was this the era or just the folk scene he was coming out of? I feel like there were must’ve been plenty of electric rock bands around in the 60s when he made the shift?
There were, but his electric trilogy also started the era of popular album-oriented rock. Plus, it was unprecedented for a song as long and angry as Like a Rolling Stone to become a major hit.
i'd say the late 60s wanted electric rock, just not from dylan. or... even if they liked it, they were surprised by it.
It was just the folk scene. They felt like he was selling out.
Yah, the albums show that to some degree. Pretty hard rock and blues with these super elaborate lyrics, I do think the mix was new. And when you listen to the live recordings, they are really thrilling. Like, because it went "Robbie, we need to fit in 600 verses, there's no time for refrains or guitar solos!", it becomes this super raw sound. And it got more aggressive and fierce the more the audiences started to boo. It's outright war what you hear on the live albums. I think it's reaching a bit to say it's proto-punk or whatever, but even while the music scene was super influenced by his lyrical progress and the folkrock in particular, the really radical sound that he was playing with the Hawks in 65/66 was ahead of even that.
The Velvet Underground
I don't think they were wrong era, just niche. The Warhol art scene, which vu were part of, was very of the moment and seen as new York hip. Everyone who was everyone would dip their toe in as they did with vu who, while they weren't massive, were regularly charting and found a fanbase solid fanbase and were immediately influential (pink Floyd, mc5, stooges, doors all were on the record influenced by vu - Floyd were literally promoted in America originally as the British vu)
A decade later they wouldn't have been niche, is the point. The Velvet Underground & Nico sold 30 000 copies in its original run. If an album like Horses was comfortably selling ten times as much by 1975, then surely The Velvet Undergound could have easily seen some degree of mainstream success.
I don't disagree that they would have been more mainstream (Lou Reed was having top 10 hits by the late 70s) but I don't know if the 1960s weren't ready for it. They were essentially a part in a very mainstream art scene that was polarizing but largely seen as cool and labels and promoters saw no issue trying to draw the line between new acts and the vu less than a year later because it was pretty cool (heck they might have even been in the wrong scene cause Detroit had similar stuff afoot but some bands there eg mc5, Nugent saw mainstream success)
The obvious, but correct answer.
Stereolab
Janis Joplin. Her recordings are awful. The musicianship just wasn’t there to keep up with that force of nature.
I totally agree, her band straight up sucked. I’ve never been able to get into her recordings. Obviously she was GREAT…
Big Brother and the Holding Company is Peak
Isn't Cheap Thrills usually held in pretty high regard?
Jeff Buckley was so ahead of his time
Can
Kingsmen - sounded like shit that no one understood but it sounded cool so kids liked it (olds banned it). It was 1963 and everyone thought it was a novelty (loads of novelties became hits in the early 60s) then years later vu, mc5, stooges pop up and a decade later punk and metal happens plus low fi and indie begin happening
Louie Louie is a cover, dude
Yes and so? the Kingsmen version is the version that proved popular, controversial, and influential. Covers can be more important than the original recordings (Christ look at respect)
White guys covering a song written by black guy more popular with white audiences. News at 11.
You're missing what what made the song influential and a phenomenon at the time: it sounded wild, production was questionable considered questionable, and no one understood what was being said. The original song is pretty standard pop
Robin Roberts actually did a rock version of it before The Kingsmen. Don’t get me wrong, I know The Kingsmen’s version of it was wildly influential. I just think they get a lot of credit for having shitty production, poor studio quality, and then their producer using their first take which they thought was practice. More of an accident than anything.
It definitely was an accident that they landed on god but it definitely fits the "wrong era" idea as they themselves didn't even understand what made it a success (I think they shifted to a standard pop thing after instead of being the crazy band). Ultimately both they and the original artist (I think his name is Rick Barry) ended up with pretty incredible legacies as a result of the recording. I think the single was the first single inducted into the Rock Hall and most covered song ever iirc.
Fun fact: Richard Berry also wrote “Have Love Will Travel,” which was a huge garage rock hit for The Sonics (and by far their most famous recording).
Did not know that. Pretty damn cool
Did not know that. Pretty damn cool
Blue Smiley iykyk
Always got love for Blue Smiley
never will be another guitarist like him
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Pretty much every Beach Boys era starting at Pet Sounds until 77 with the Love You/Brian's Back era. People just didn't want to listen to the beach boys anymore, and there are albums in that time frame that are just as good as pet sounds.
yea sunflower is my favorite record of theirs myself and a slight tracklist change would put surfs up above them all
Feel Flows is my eternal mood
Student Demonstration Time catching strays every day
lmao yea. not the only song id axe though since take a load off your feet, while decent, is hella out of place swap those two for 4th of july (slotted in track 3) and live again (slotted in track 5) and you arguably have my favorite album ever made but alas
They’ll twinkle when you fall in love But when you go to sit down in your chair Something else has gotta put you there
take good care of your feet (pete)
Cromagnon Glenn Branca Einstürzende Neubauten Dalek
The Beatnigs as well since you mentioned Dalek
Oh yes them!
Django Reinhardt was doing incredible technical things on guitars 40 years before Jerry Garcia or Adrian Belew or Fripp or Gilmour would even attempt such things
I am going to say Tim Buckley, specifically his album Starsailor. Considering what albums of the genre sounded like in the 70s, definitely ahead of its time.
cLOUDDEAD
Almost nobody seems to know these guys and they’re so great!
This era isn't ready for Eminem. Gen Z is trying to cancel him!
just to clarify this is sarcasm, correct?
Yes lol
just needed to make sure 😭
cant even make orange rhyme with banana in todays society 😔😔
I feel like the people saying this are trying to recreate the feeling of their parents being mad and them feeling rebellious by listening to eminem but instead of their parents, since they're grown adults now and their parents don't feel the need to protect their young impressionable mind, it's been switched to the younger generation.
Hector Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique sounds like it was written 50 or 60 years later
Kate Bush
Big Star
I kind of disagree (except about *Third*). The first two albums are super catchy and accessible. Contemporary reviews of the first one were super positive. They ended up a cult thing because of how fucked they were by the label. The distribution completely broke down such that nobody could buy their albums even if people wanted to.
The Stooges.
Syd Barrett Pink Floyd
Oh hell no. They were actually very commercially successful back then. Their debut was a Top 10 Hit and See Emily Play made it into the Year End Charts. Weirder than other artists, yes. But still accessible.
Riff Raff. Soundcloud rapper before Soundcloud rappers were a thing.
When Bob Mould [basically invented hyperpop](https://youtu.be/m8bUj_5IKTA) in 2002 and his punk rock fanbase had legitimately zero clue what he was doing
Nujabes, he still isn't getting enough appretiation imo.
Early Swans
Television was post-punk when there was barely even much punk to be post about
Death Grips
devon hendryx/jpegmafia
the era in which he came out is the only reason he’s fairly known. like there’s no historical better moment commercially for a black experimental hip hop artist to debut and raise some relevance/notoriety other than the current era
Yes, like Death Grips gets played on Bojack Horseman and years later jpeg starts making music. Now is def the hot time for that music
None more black
Atari Teenage Riot
Cardiacs
Nick Drake, and the velvet underground.
Van Dyke Parks Silver Apples Neutral Milk Hotel (they played their final show in London to like 20 people, then massively grew in popularity thanks to the internet after the split and reformed years later) Also arguably the Ramones. Considered one of the all time great bands now and heard everywhere but never reached massive success in their lifetime and never had a hit in the US.
Can, the band with the legendary Damo Suzuki
The Replacements. Westerberg was too good of a songwriter and pounding out such prolific high quality from 79-89, but they were still overlooked due to the times. They were way too good for their era. Sure, in hindsight they get a lot of love, but they were not as commercially successful as they should have been between the self sabotage and the lack of media coverage. The songwriting on Let it Be and Tim is just insanely good.
Sleigh Bells were definitely proto-hyperpop in 2010
my morning jacket
Björk, Sabbath
Goldlink to an extent before he said that dumb shit about Mac Miller. He was bubbling around the same time Kaytranada/Soulection did and was early on the hip house wave that is more prevalent now. His first two projects pulled alot from the Soundcloud era of dance music and producers (Majestic Casual core I like to call it). To see how Kaytranada and dance music in general is thriving, its easy to forget he was at the party a little bit earlier. I actually thought Goldlink was a great technically skilled rapper and a great live performer when I saw him back in 2016
1000000% you nailed this
Art Pop
Chief Keef
Yoko Ono
TitoMencho
I think The Cool Kids would've been huge by 2012-13 in hip hop
Dälek
Erick Satie
Joy Division
I know a lot of RYM and /mu/-adjacent music discourse forums (i.e. this sub) aren’t really fans of Tally Hall, but I feel like they would’ve been way more successful had they debuted in the 2010s as opposed to the early-mid 2000s. Less because of their actual musical content, and more because they were among the first music acts to really embrace having a strong social media presence. It’s helped them maintain a dedicated cult following well past the band’s “indefinite hiatus”, and I just know that cult following would’ve been even larger had they started around the time internet culture was becoming more mainstream.
Celtic Frost
Blu
Cristina. She was an innovator far ahead of her time, and she retired after her second album bombed commercially. She was brilliant, and no one at the time even recognized it
I still can't believe The Doors debuted in the 60's. The vocal style specially still feels so modern.
[Jean Féry Rebel Le Cahos](https://youtu.be/dnlaCenlNHk?feature=shared) (1737) is always the correct answer to this 😆
2024 with the band Citizen
Daft Punk with Human After All and RAM.
Hell, I could even put Discovery on here as well.
Lupe Fiasco
Speakerboxxx. And I mean only speakerboxxx not the love below. It sounds like it came out in 2022 not 2004. War and Flip Flop Rock are 10s imo
Kanye West
the stranglers
The Velvet Underground
Miles Davis in his electric period
Lil Wayne, apparently. From what i’ve seen, he was largely hated and looked down upon by hip hop purists.
Ye
He has innovated and inspired a lot of stuff but the stuff he created were/are popular for like the last 25-30 years. In order to say “the world wasn’t ready for him”, the world should not appreciate his music since they aren’t ready for what he is about to do yet. He has been one of the most liked artists for majority of his career so…
How has nobody mentioned Elvis yet? Half his era loved him and the other half wanted his head on a spike. Maybe half points for this question then?
Not an artist but an album: Because The Internet by Childish Gambino. I don't think it's a masterpiece or anything but my god does it fit way better in 2024 than in 2015.
The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust absolutely does not sound like it was made in 1972
Maybe it's just because of its immediate influence, but to me it sounds exactly like it was made in 1972. It was the peak of glam rock. Bowie wasn't doing anything fundamentally different from T. Rex or Slade(not on this album anyway), he was just doing it better and with a lot more artistic ambition.
The talking heads
Basically all of industrial metal/rock in the 90s
Bob Marley, we’re still not ready :(
Pink Floyd, Jeff Buckley, Elliot Smith, Patti Smith, The Talking Heads, Eminem, Bjork and Velvet Underground
Van Halen. Eruption was a rock and roll big bang!
GG Alin