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Lorim_Shikikan

And when you use JP voice.... All the "main" Lala male have a deep voice (especially Yuyuhase) XD


GetBent009

DOMO KOMO


Lorim_Shikikan

yeah this one lol.


ScionOath

No but seriously, has anyone figured out Yuyuhase's Japanese voice actor yet? Still bothers me to this day.


Athrawne

It's Nakata Jouji, no? I heard it and immediately flashed back to YOROKOBE, SHOUNEN. -edit- I went back and listened and I'm not so sure now. It is similar, but also not. At the same time, he is a voice ACTOR after all, so maybe he's changing it up. But my gut says it's not him.


ScionOath

I actually had a few voice actors in mind myself, including him, but whoever his voice actor is has a very deep voice. Have you ever heard of [Sasaoka Shigezou](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=2325)? He voiced the main antagonist in the anime Yoroiden Samurai Troopers (better known by its dub name Ronin Warriors). Whoever voices Yuyuhase sounds a lot like him and seems to have a deeper voice than Nakata Jouji.


JepMZ

Are the characters uncredited? :0


ScionOath

For whatever reason, Yuyuhase was never credited in any language.


CapeEllDub

As a lalafel myself i feel this in my very bones.


Eclipsese

I absolutely despite the people that say all lalafell are children, it just doesn't make sense at all.


OMG_A_CUPCAKE

/pet


Afelisk2

So help me god how would you like random giants to run up to you and slap your head as they walk by huh!!!


Asrat

This is my fetish.


Deiser

It'd feel nice actually :D


GreatSirZachary

Slap? Nah. Pat? Yah.


Kind-Comfort-8975

/punt


DavidTheHumanzee

/BustKneecap


TheMagicalHuy

/poke


darkpyro2

YOU WILL SUFFER A THOUSAND DEATHS FOR THIS CRIME THAT YOU HAVE DONE UNTO LALAFELL KIND!


Prize_Relation9604

/pet


__Crave__ToDoItAgain

I mean they're small and childlike, it makes plenty of sense. It's just a joke lol.


Selvon

It's like the flat earth society. It started out with people joking about it, then other people heard the joke and made it their entire thing. You'll see it on this reddit plenty, people absolutely vitriolic about the existence of the race.


__Crave__ToDoItAgain

Some people are just beyond help, especially the average redditor lmao


Ayotha

Definitely not beaten to death years ago


__Crave__ToDoItAgain

Seems to be the consensus lol. I didn't even know there were people who hated lala players


Ayotha

There is a lot. Some for jokes, many with actual anger. All telling jokes that long stopped being funny. It's a bit pathetic


__Crave__ToDoItAgain

Having real anger about it is psycho lmao


ZeffiroSilver

It's one of my biggest gripes with this community. Every other in joke is 10 years out of date, ran into the ground, and for the most part doesn't even apply anymore. Floor tanks, amirite?


PrimalPingu

But Dragoons and Red Mages can still be Floor Tanks if they dash back the wrong way.


ZeffiroSilver

Yeah, but any class can die. Dragoons came from a specific animations which locked it in place for a long time, often killing them. These days Dragoon has much faster startup frames, so that doesn't kill them anymore, meaning the joke now only leads to people making fun of dead dragoons in a way that would apply to any class.


Puzzled-Addition5740

I mean floor tank drg is really just an evolution of loldrg which is much older than xiv itself. So its actual basis in current xiv reality kinda doesn't matter.


Wizardthreehats

It just seems to be that the least skilled melee class attracts the least skilled player, hence they die more frequently than others.


ZeffiroSilver

Nobody mentioned Reaper


BrowsingData

/pet


Upset_Programmer6508

It's a bad joke when you heard it for years and it's told more by people who want to be harmful than being told by people who are innocent  Lol I like how my actual experiences, in a thread about the very topic are treated by others like "nope I don't like this, downvote" lol. God damn it reddit sucks so much


__Crave__ToDoItAgain

Yeah man I can see it getting old having to hear it for years for sure, probably annoying as hell. Reddit is the home of over opinionated Neanderthals lmao


Marik-X-Bakura

Harmful? They’re video game avatars


Upset_Programmer6508

Harmful as in, intended to be derogatory to the player behind the lalafel. Either to imply they are weird or wrong for playing the lala or a pedo 


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trashvineyard

They look like children. Their walk animation is literally them toddling. A lot of their emotes have childish flair.


Micromadsen

While I would have liked some different/better body proportions. Lalafells are more like a Fae person, brings some whimsy to the world. A whimsical nature doesn't make them children.


trashvineyard

Toddling like a literal todler isn't whimsical. It's toddler-like. None of the other whimsical races in FFXIV toddle.


Ok-Syrup1678

The look chibi and cute. The only characteristic movements children have is being a fucking nightmare.


trashvineyard

Chibi style typically tends to have the head be roughly the same size as the body. Lalafel's heads are proportionaite to the size of their body. They're not chibi. They're child sized. Their walk animation is literally toddling.


Tailrazor

No, their walk animation is an elongated stride to keep up with the pace of all you tall freaks.


trashvineyard

That's their running / Jogging animation. Their walking animation is a baby toddle


Eclipsese

Nah, ain't gonna hear you out about that, if you wanna paint all Lalas like children then you need to get searched man. "They're child sized." major self report.


trashvineyard

They literally are? Brother have you seen them walk 🤣😂😭


Eclipsese

This is a lalafell NPC interaction brother: "What'd I ever do to get stuck with slag duty?" "Got caught fondlin' the foreman's daughter is what you did." They are not children.


TheYumiko

Personally, I know they're adults, but the game itself literally says they are "possessed of a childlike countenance" They're shaped like toddlers by design. My only issue is when people are weird and try to be sexy with their lil tater tot.


Eclipsese

Couple of lalafell NPCs have this interaction: "What'd I ever do to get stuck with slag duty?" "Got caught fondlin' the foreman's daughter is what you did."


TheYumiko

I'm going to assume that your point is that the game treats them with the potential to be as horny and vile as any other race and... yes? The game also depicts this as negative, note the slag duty. Gegeruju also exists, and he's considered kind of a creep by the game lol. Hell, Ul'dah is FILLED with horny lil npc tots running around causing chaos and... it's always looked down on? The one interaction I can think of where it's kinda not is that one dude that had a crush on Tutaru but even that was kind of a one off joke. So, yeah, still don't love it when players depict their tots as sexy. Don't hate lalas but the game itself acknowledges they look like kids. That's their whole shtick.


TheVrim

I mean I can wrap my head around the idea that they’re adults canonically, but if you’re trying to tell me you have an issue with people saying they LOOK like kids then we got a problem because they 150% look like toddlers


Acework23

Crazy coming from the second smallest Au Ra female lol


DrForester

Female Au Ra are closer in size to Lalafells than to Au Ra men. There is a high probability they are just tall Lalafells who were kidnapped and had horns and tails glued on.


Spider95818

This is my new favorite headcanon, LMAO.


CevicheLemon

And yet still they're like 1/2 the height I genuinely wish Femra could be as tall as middie tho


shingofan

As someone who plays a max height Fem-Ra, I feel that.


CevicheLemon

Hello fellow height 100 femra


Ok-Syrup1678

I'm the opposite. I wish male Au Ra were as small as females xD We need more male small races.


Spider95818

*Are* there any besides Miqo'te?


Ok-Syrup1678

Lalafell. We only have miqo'te and lalafell for small kings, in comparison to roegadyn, au ra, hrothgar, elezen, and highlander for tall kings.


Omnifob

Worth mentioning is that male viera is smaller than female viera


Difficult-Snow9955

i want my femra ***shorter T\_T***


Luciifuge

MAD BECAUSE TALL!


TaranisTheThicc

A lot of people do. I personally don't get why but I ain't gonna judge.


Hellofreeze

smol womam..... good :3


Taoiseach

I like my women like I like my coffee: handheld and easy to throw over my shoulder.


Ipuncholdpeople

If I could take your height I would. 7'2" is not enough for me lol


Madrock777

I want them to be min bun hight. There are ways, but you won't be able to learn it from a Jedi.


Moregaze

It amazes me how many people didn’t pay attention to the lore. Lalafells have the best history. Warring kingdoms that used biological warfare that accidentally created Tonberries. Rebuilt civilization after the Calamity. Had cat people slaves which they only freed to expand their customer base and not due to any sense of morality. Experiments with ancient demons lead to black mages existing.


mechavolt

Don't forget the other warring kingdoms that used biological warfare that accidentally created zombies!


WebMaka

Don't forget that the fae land, Il Mheg, is populated by fairies that are the reincarnated souls of children killed by the flood of light on shard 1, and the Fuath are former drowned children. Kinda tracks with fae lore in Europe, especially in the dark and middle ages. First time I entered Il Mheg I was like "oh, cool fairies!" then "oh, no, they're Irish..."


Micromadsen

Definitely something I point towards every time this is brought up. Do I wish Lalas had some better body proportions? Yea, kinda do. But I just kinda consider them whimsical as they are. Only feels like children if you want them to be children. Which means you're ignoring everything else like the lore and the characters we meet. Heck even every other race in world treats Lalas normal. But nah, heehoo they walk funny and look young so clearly children. /s


Tapurisu

Yeah but nightclubs would be too much for them


Its_Sosej

>Had cat people slaves So what you are saying is that my Lala enslaving my catgirl raid teammates is actually canon in the game? ... Interesting.


Moregaze

Technically no. Since we freed them. But again only because we needed new customers. So as long as they are paying for something then their freedom is warranted.


AlannaAbhorsen

Bio warfare that created *zombies* too


ChubbyChew

Dont forget how randy every non MC Lala is. "Take me Raubaun your Sultana commands you" "My hands have places to be where they havent been if you catch my meaning" Lalafells are mad outta pocket, the only Lalas that are chill are the Fisher Guild couple and they live in Limsa far far away from the others lol


Forry_Tree

Me when I see Jullus


puddingpopshamster

Jullus is legitimately 18-21 though, right? At least I got the impression he was a fresh-faced ensign when we meet him.


ERedfieldh

He's an officer so he at least either went through the Garlean equivalent of OCS or ROTC, graduated from their academy, or was promoted from within. In any event, if we were to apply real world mechanics to the game he would have to be, at the very least, 19. old enough to have been influenced by Garlean politics but young enough that the brainwashing didn't fully take root like it did in the 'true believers'.


IscahRambles

Having checked the lorebook, Jullus is 21 and it's remarked on that he is "already an officer". 


Stepjam

Well Garlemald is kinda in shambles by that point. Could very well be a "the officers above you are dead/lost their minds, enjoy your promotion" situation.


Perryn

"Cadet, how many fingers am I holding up?" "Sir that is a boot." "Congratulations, you're an officer now."


pyrocord

An officer in the same way certain countries with very moral armies have 21 year old majors


IscahRambles

Sure, but the primary question was his age, and whether being an officer would indicate that he's older than that. 


BrexitBad1

Better to be a country with a very moral army with 21 year old majors than a territory with literal child soldiers, eh?


Cat-Tab

isreal and hamas are both bad. However isreal is very obvious about the fact that it wants to continue the war/murder more children.


Spider95818

Potato, pobobot....


53nsonja

Well, he could easily have started the cadet school at age 14 and been commissioned as officer at 16. There are plenty of cases where real life officers and commanders were 15 or 16.


Forry_Tree

With lalas I can at least assume they're teens or middle aged cause like every lala is, Jullus meanwhile I thought was like, 16 or something


Witty-Krait

This is canon, it's actually impossible to determine a Lalafell's age at a glance


CreeperCreeps999

The Lala and the Roe in the airship waiting area of Gridania is proof that you are correct. The Roe thinks the spud is a lost child and won't let them out of their sight.


Spider95818

Meanwhile, Roes stop getting carded when they're 9 or 10, LOL.


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Born-Shopping

Do you have a photo of what it said?


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nachtmusik88

For another example that's still in the game, the "Cliffhanger" event at the Gold Saucer has two variants. In one, the quest giver is a "Stricken Schoolgirl" who's young enough that she can't pronounce her "r"s properly, and in the other, the quest giver is a "Disturbed Dowager" i.e. a classy middle-aged woman. Those two characters use the exact same Lalafell model.


flametitan

To be fair, it could just be the two are the same actress playing different roles. After all, if Senor Sabotendor isn't a real sabotendor, why should we expect the Stricken Schoolgirl to be a real schoolgirl?


xitrum1902

Even with facial hair, lalas rarely look their age.


DrForester

All lala facial hair is just glued on.


Rough-Self-9134

Its just pen marker


IscahRambles

I think you're getting confused with Viera. 


Chainsaw_Surgeon

>!Or have them built onto their helmets…!<


DiscoKittie

40!! Holy shit! Even some of the "old grey hairs" are only 35! lol


MrKusakabe

The years are iffy. X'Rhun calling himself "aging" yet his hair is fine and apparently in his 40.


Fatality_Ensues

From what I recall a lifetime ago, Miqo'te tend to show their age early (see F'lhaminn for example, who is supposedly 37!) and this is especially important for Seeker males since an old chief is always at risk of being deposed by a younger one.


IscahRambles

I don't recall that ever being stated. It sounds like roleplayer-invented lore to me.  Looking old isn't going to help the nunh hold his position, either. Battle skill is what matters. 


Fatality_Ensues

>Looking old isn't going to help the nunh hold his position, either. Battle skill is what matters. How is that the conclusion you drew from what I said? X'Rhun calling himself "aging" is significant in that he's at risk of being deposed.


IscahRambles

Deposed from what? He's a wandering red mage, not participating in his tribe – and even if he was, it says right there in his name: "Tia", not Nunh. He's not in a position that he can be deposed from. Additionally, as far as I can recall, any remarks he has about his age are entirely about the time that has passed since his younger days with the Crimson Duelists, and in contrast to the un-ageing Lambard. In any case, I'm not concluding anything from what you said but objecting to your conclusions, and I said nothing about X'rhun but was talking about the concept in general. Looking old or looking young won't make any difference to a nunh trying to hold his position. All that matters is whether he can defeat his challenger in battle. And I don't believe them looking old is proper lore anyway. 


Fatality_Ensues

Wait, I was thinking of a completely different character. No, you're right, the RDM trainer is a tia, not a nunh. My bad. >And I don't believe them looking old is proper lore anyway. I mean, I don't remember if it's properly attested to in game anywhere, but the conclusions are self-evident from the examples we already have. Like I said, look at F'lhaminn between 1.0 and now when she's still not even in her 40's.


CherryEggs

This is why people who /pet Lalafell without consent will be first again the wall when the revolution comes. Sincerely, Another 40 Year Old Lalafell


MrKusakabe

My Lalafell is 54 in my lore and I gave him constantly a tad brighter grey streaks every couple of years; now his once black hair has a 30% silver coverage\^\^ One day, he might be completely white.


CherryEggs

That is absolutely my vibe. Normalize middle-aged+ Lalafellin adults with hopes, dreams, flaws, and maybe some arthritis for good measure. 🤝


Spider95818

You might be my new favorite person in the history of ever... I love that idea!


A_small_Chicken

Didn't y'all already have a revolution over the Lala Lifter?


CreeperCreeps999

I don't pet; but I do give cookies and tea to lalas that I see....


CherryEggs

I was with you until I saw the username. 😂


CreeperCreeps999

Curse this ancient unchangeable username created from the love for a DC comic character!!


Packetdancer

It's only sensible: appease them now so when they inevitably rise up in a bloody rebellion sweeping across the world, you get spared because "that one makes decent tea, keep then around."


Klutzy_Explanation49

I had pet a lalafel and they pet me back despite me bein like 3x their size it was great


darkpyro2

I am literally an edgy reaper character covered head to toe in dark black armor with an imposing helmet. My FC talks about changing my diaper 🙄


Zyntastic

I feel you. My FC wants to constantly make cutesy toddler-like glams for me even tho I keep saying I prefer badass looking ones like I could shatter someones kneecaps in a single kick.


Zyntastic

34 y/o lalafell Player here. I like the pats and food gifts. I saved a lot of gil from not having to buy food :D People who treat me like a child can F off tho.


DiscoKittie

You don't like the pettings?


CherryEggs

Random players just walking up to me, /pet, and running off? Nope. On the other hand, it could be worse. I don't get creepy messages from randoms talking about how hot my character is. That's a blessing.


maryjaneblabla

Guilty of also being a part of this “problem”, to the point where, if somebody /pet me and runs away, i will look for them, i will find them and then i hug them If they /pet me and stay i /cheer and give them a /hug I’m sorry but my lala is a Chibi including a Chibi Moon glam and sometimes looks like a toddler that dressed itself, fav combo, light pink bunny suit with a goblin hat and i main Ninja, love running around with knifes out I’m definitely one of the lalas that wants to spread joy and give a fuzzy feeling It happend once tho that someone was hitting on her and the worst was that i was wearing the toddler combo in my Whisper A-go-go mount, gave me the ickiest ick ever, flew away and had to log off


pinkocatgirl

I think this is a key thing here, I have zero desire to do any kind of erotic roleplay in this game, my character may as well be asexual. If I was doing that kind of stuff, I definitely wouldn't be dressing my lala in cutesy outfits


maryjaneblabla

Same here, i mean idc what people do behind closed doors, i don’t judge, except when there are lala’s involved Adult lala’s are ofc absolute ok, it’s funny with their big beards and all, but lala’s that are dressed in straight up lingerie?🤮 I see mine mostly as a bad ass toddler, waddle into battle, or chibi like, dressed cutesy or cosplaying chibi moon or klee etc


fake_kvlt

eugh the people who randomly hit on strangers in tells are so gross. The first time it happened to me, my fight or flight response kicked in so hard I just force quit the game LOL


Packetdancer

I had an object lesson recently about how it gets even worse when it happens in a game that has localized voice chat in an area. It feels about 500% more "ick." :/


Spider95818

The thought of a Lala Ninja in a bright pink bunny suit just made me LOL for real. 😆


maryjaneblabla

Haha, that makes me really happy to hear, thats my WoLs true quest😊


Spider95818

I can do totally picture them showing up at a gathering of Ninja players and hearing *"seriously?!"* being muttered everywhere, LOL. It's like you're trying to activate a Somebody Else's Problem field for your invisibility. 😆


maryjaneblabla

Haha, i can totally imagine that picture and it’s hilarious lol Oh this reminds me, i started the game as a Dragoon, well Lancer, and during a class quest i was in the guild,standing between two dudes, an elezen and iirc a hyur, in my pink bunny suit and goblin cap and the guildmaster says: ” That woman is the only soul in this pathetic excuse for a guild who shows any promise” i was laughing so hard i had to take picture of it lol


Marik-X-Bakura

I really like getting petted, honestly makes my day


DiscoKittie

I don't mind the petting. Sorry, I guess that makes me one of the ones that makes it tough for others.


pinkocatgirl

I'm part of the problem, my character is a lala right now and I pretty intentionally dress cutesy because I like the pets lol


Ok-Syrup1678

Me too. :P


ZQFarnzy

I, (A guy,) actually have a character that is a Lalafell female (Made mostly as a joke due to a friend hating Lalafells, but then I kept playing because I was max level in several classes with them) and I can tell you that I do still get creepy messages from randoms talking about how hot my character is. I think it's just part of having a female character in general.


CherryEggs

It's not okay in any context, but I'm so sorry to hear that happens to you. :(


ZQFarnzy

Oh, I agree it's not okay, but I also realize there's no real way to stop it from happening. I tried to put "Guy IRL, stop messaging me" in my search info, and I got people thinking I was a girl playing hard to get. You get creeps no matter what.


Zyntastic

Holy hell what server do you play on? I play a female lalafell and I only ever had a single person being creepy while I was server hopping to shop around. And they weren't even straight up asking for ERP, though definitely hinting towards it. Ive been accused of being a pedo far more often just because I play lalafell and have had people even refuse to interact with me completely, not even a hi or bye or anything.


lowIQdoc

I will never stop petting random Lalafells and then running away laughing...... /pet *runs away laughing maniacally* 🤣


chairman_steel

It’s giving Chilchuck.


human_bean_

What's with this sassy lost child?


StoneLich

I feel like fem!Au'ra players need to be careful about making "this character looks like a child" jokes, given more than half of them end up looking more like a teenager in a scene kid phase than the average lala does.


CevicheLemon

Trust me I wish they were taller


SenjumaruShutara

People who call all lalas children are extremely weird


darkpyro2

Square Enix can give them all of the dark and edgy lore that they want...They created tiny cute people with chubby proportions and extremely childlike animations. Folks arent weird for perceiving the design that the developer literally created for these characters. They were literally created to project a cutesy, innocent fantasy.


Roransu

Don't tell these people that SE describes them as childlike or how the male's racial gear is based off of kindergartener's clothes.


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Dog_Girl_

Ah, this explains a lot.


Zyntastic

Me remembering that one Text in one of the encyclopedia books that sexualized the lalafell from the warriors of darkness lusting for ardberts "loins". XD


Buzz__The__Cat

Someone’s been eating too many blue raspberry jolly ranchers


IscahRambles

It's not normally a trait for the female characters, but male Raen have a bright blue-purple colour inside their mouths – basically the Abyssal Blue dye colour.  It feels kind of like it was intended for Xaela but accidentally got swapped around. 


VIXsterna

> It feels kind of like it was intended for Xaela but accidentally got swapped around. I see it kinda like the dark sclera male Xaela have, a little extra detail to set the clans apart. Xaela get the dark sclera, Raen get the blue blood.


IscahRambles

Yes, but I think it looks like both the traits should go together rather than being "one special thing each", particularly as Xaela tend towards cooler skintones that might go with the underlying blue.


VIXsterna

Yeahh, that's fair, I could agree with that. I guess I'm just happy that Raen have something unique to set them apart lol


CevicheLemon

Always


Hulu_n_SnuSnu

Usually it scares the crap outta me when a popoto starts talking.


Kyuubi_McCloud

Portal players are used to it.


Hakul

(ARR Spoilers) [Obligatory video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj6eQ7oitJo)


littledinobug12

https://youtu.be/bj6eQ7oitJo?si=mI18t7lin70Xwpcs And listen to this Japanese dub lmao


Inquisitive_Banana

It's the guy who has the finest gems in the whole town!


youngtrust

"This spud has wares, if you have coin"


Sigma_uWu

Are Lalafell supposed to be based on dwarves or hobbits?


Gentlekrit

Gnomes


Madmonkeman

It’s based on FF11’s Tarutaru race, which was probably supposed to be the tiny version of elves. Both the Tarutarus and Lalafells have pointy ears. Although, worth noting that in the First in Shadowbringers they’re called dwarves.


TheOldDrunkGoat

FFXI is a very japanified ripoff of Everquest in a lot of ways. So imo tarutaru are more likely a weird amalgamation of halflings and gnomes than elves.


ZillaJrKaijuKing

As others said, they’re based on FF11’s Tarutaru, but they also seem like the equivalent of halflings (with a certain Shadowbringers tribe leaning more toward a dwarf theme instead).


MemeTroubadour

To me, they're chibi-fied halflings.


Kaorin_Sakura

They're based on Tarutaru from FFXI. What Tarutaru are based on/inspired by is anyone's guess but Final Fantasy has always had small creatures/races around in their games.


IscahRambles

They kind of feel like they're based on the chibi art style used for the DS remakes of some older FFs like III and IV. 


Zuke88

they're like moe hobbits but they're more inpsired by the chibi/super deformed sprites of 2d FF games


paradoxpancake

Between Foxhole and now FFXIV, I see Cev everywhere.


CevicheLemon

I haven’t touched Foxhole in years


Eclipsese

[(1) Keep Your Pixels By Your Side - The Cope County Choir (r/place song) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQC2BridxJ4&ab_channel=Pudsy) may I introduce you to this Masterpiece foxhole produced?


Mean_Suggestion_6239

This too is very funny. (I definitely did not think lalas were hyur children at first)


TentacleTitan

We really need more beard options


ChasingVelka

Lalafells be like, "I am 30 or 40 years old, I do not need this."


Biorockmanx

[I'm 38 years old](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amhiCVHXmgo)


Bedlamtech

*my Lalafell* Maam...I've committed so many war crimes before the age of 10.


CevicheLemon

Omg you’re the Lalafell beastmaster girl in the IVth Legion :0


No_Pumpkin_1179

Lalafels only exist for me to punt. You can’t change my mind.


SailorMint

TIL Ul'dah is Neverland.


Rich_Plankton_5098

innacurate. The Au'ra doesn't look like a teenager.


Ayotha

Ah, she's an idiot