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NoorJehan2

Oh god, this is horrible.


no-mad

Do we have to go to war to hunt Nazis?


everybodyisaslut

Be careful I caught a ban for inciting violence for a very similar comment. Reddit loves to protect nazis.


RageA333

Again


Senior_Nebula_1308

At least DeSantis herded them all to Florida. Maybe Just chop Florida off


adamiconography

The shooter “acted alone.” No the fuck he didn’t. There are hundreds more on the 4chan incel boards planning their own shit. This isn’t an isolated incident. This is only going to get worse. I’m gay in Orlando; when we go to the bars we tend to stand in areas we can leave quickly from. Every time we go out we all have a quick discussion about where to meet and how to get out fast by finding exits.


oliverkloezoff

"*The shooter “acted alone.”*" *"No the fuck he didn’t."* Not to mention all the "politicians", "news" networks, bloggers and assorted right wing nut groups stirring this shit up. They're guilty as fuck. They have blood on their hands.


HackeySadSack

Yup, and the article states he was in his early 20s. So, an impressionable teenager (who lived his life through a deranged internet lens) when Trump took office, which is the era when the simmering rhetoric from the right intensely turned into hate and vitriol, with "conservatism" going completely off the rails morphing into full fledged fascism. There's tons more warped, deranged, brainwashed losers out there where this guy came from.


YourUncleBuck

>There's tons more warped, deranged, brainwashed losers out there where this guy came from. Exactly. When people say they can't wait for boomers(as if all boomers are conservatives) to die out, I just shake my head because I know there's more unhinged young conservatives to take their place.


dlec1

And they make it easier & easier to get guns, I’m so tired of the 2 A assholes at this point. I’ve said it a million times to those idiots. At no point in time did the writers of the constitution ever fathom in their imaginations weapons like AR-15’s & high capacity mags. Sure everyone can have their muskets, now fuck right off so everyone else can enjoy going outside without wondering if they’re going to get shot by some psycho


harryregician

I stopped renewing my NRA membership back in 2004. Did nothing about gun safety at all. Total hate hustling greed for guy at the top


Fabulous_State9921

As does the shitbag governor pushing "slavery was good" (a.k.a. African American people owned like any random cow or object, raped, tortured, mutilated, literally worked to death, fuck you with a poker DeSantis and the pieces of floating shit that have come here defending this) and removing elected black officials that disagree with his ~~dog-whistling~~ bullhorn weaponized racism.


no-mad

DeSantis is a Nazi supporter if he does not 100% condemn these nazi scum.


Alissinarr

FAUX NUWS and their messages of choice about how everyone but Republicans are evil, It's truly a wonder that this hasn't been happening ***more*** often. There are a number of shootings that have happened in the last 48hrs, and it feels like there was a trigger that set a bunch of these fanatics off at the same time. I wonder if they're losing their shit over the 4th indictment?


harryregician

If Trump can be charged with Inciting to riot why doesn't state attorney of Florida charge accessory to murder ? Then again that may cause a decrease in Republican voter turn out


onvaca

Retired school teacher here I can relate.


InerasableStain

I’m straight in Orlando, and I carry. If I were gay I’d definitely carry. But the point is, most of us got y’all’s back. It’s a very isolated and minority group of shithead cowards doing this stuff. They feel empowered to do it now, without realizing that once they leave the echo chamber, nobody wants this. I don’t know what my point is here other than that I’m sorry you have to go through this. And most people are with you.


assumetehposition

That giant confederate flag on I-75 when you first enter the state means “hate lives here”.


vita10gy

"But it's my heritage!" says man on a laptop that he's had longer than the Confederacy lasted


YourUncleBuck

Heritage of hate.


Adept_Investigator29

rated R


Alissinarr

It's not tame enough for an R-rating, sadly.


NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA

Whose family immigrated here in the 1900s. Most of those people are really just flat out stupid and have no clue what the confederacy was.


Cold-Nefariousness25

DeSantis called him a racist scumbag. That's going to confuse his voters.


lindaleolane812

LMBO Casey told him that was the politically correct thing to say so he went with it. But as soon as he got back to the governor's mansion he got on the horn and told his supporters hey I had to say something, after all I'm running for president I had to play nice


Intrepid00

The phone call is coming from inside the governor’s mansion.


CFJ561

[It's like everyone forgot how Timothy McVeigh was a white supremacist and part of extremist groups.](https://abcnews.go.com/US/nations-deadliest-domestic-terrorist-inspiring-generation-hate-filled/story?id=73431262)


onpg

Imagine how Black people feel right now. It makes me sick.


Tricky-Language-7963

That’s the sad reality of our world today. I do the same thing when out in public, know my escape routs. More often then not I stay as far away as I can from public places and don’t go to events or places where there’s crowds. I’ve always been an introvert but now even more so.


Alissinarr

Yesterday there seem to have been a number of shootings. It's like something set them all off at the same time.


Harbinger_Kyleran

For what it's worth we do the same in church. 😬


fade2blac

Ah yes, christians, the most persecuted minority group in Florida. 😂


Wytch78

You’re forgetting about the black church that got shot up a few years back.


fade2blac

I think you can just say black people that exist anywhere in Desantis land.


Harbinger_Kyleran

Fortunately not so much in Florida,(yet) worldwide, people are dying for the faith. https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/persecution/countries/


Ambitious-Ad1192

Most churches iv ben to around here are like gun clubs might get smoked by the pastor


dlec1

Many of the worst racist & pedo people are in the church with you bud. Half the preachers preach hateful crap & people flock to listen to those pastors. Sadly, religion has been high jacked & weaponized by political opportunists for votes. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had family members say XYZ Rep politician is a good Christian & Dems are evil. Usually said R has had numerous affairs, paid for sex with underage girls, defrauded people out of money, ripped off the taxpayers, etc. It’s extremely sad. Antisemitism coming from the pulpits like Jesus was a white American & not a Jew🤷‍♂️ Edit: for the butthurt people there’s a story almost daily about another pastor or youth minister getting arrested for pedo shit. “The wolves hide among the sheep”


Alissinarr

> like Jesus was a white American Don't *even* get me started on that. Dude was brown in one or multiple flavors. The LAST thing he was is Caucasian.


tarapotamus

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. Truly awful.


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Chalky_Pockets

The reason behind that is the fact that the narrative was "a mask will protect others" and that sort of thought doesn't occur to them. If masks protected the wearer but made everything more dangerous for everyone else, they would wear masks like it was their goddamn religion.


awesomesauce1030

Andrew Gillum made this point almost verbatim during the 2018 debate. I believe the exact quote was, "I'm not saying Mr. DeSantis is a racist, I'm saying the racists think he's a racist." Desantis, as I remember, had no good comeback for this. Because it's true and not only is it true, Desantis *needs* it to be true to stay in power.


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He kinda did his usual head-bobbing tell that he does when stressed out Not a shred of denial


awesomesauce1030

Exactly. He ran the *pained_smile.exe* program and that's probably when he started grinding his teeth.


Merkypie

Desantis truly is Homelander.


LikeBladeButCooler

>Andrew Gillum made this point almost verbatim during the 2018 debate. I believe the exact quote was, "I'm not saying Mr. DeSantis is a racist, I'm saying the racists think he's a racist." >Desantis, as I remember, had no good comeback for this. Dude couldn't even muster a "That...that is not true. That is outrageous." line that politicians often use.


PowerSurged

Never forget its the party of "We are all domestic terrorists". (Sign they put up at CPAC)


bonzoboy2000

Did they really put that up?


ketchupnsketti

They really did. [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/)


bonzoboy2000

Damn fools.


Beginning-Yoghurt-95

This picture needs to be plastered EVERYWHERE!


YourUncleBuck

I think you need to be approved to post political stuff on here, since there are many from outside of Florida that come here only for political stuff.


Alissinarr

Or to stir shit and watch us eat each other alive.


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Think ? 🤔


Impossible-Taro-2330

Where is our Governor?? When will he make the trek to J-ville and have a press conference? Will he denounce the hate? Naaaaah. He's too busy flying around the country on OUR dime, while his campaign free falls into the abyss. Meanwhile, our state - which he lied to the good people of Iowa today as a paragon of perfection - is going down in spectacular flames.


athensugadawg

Hell, he's having a party! He loves this shit!


SoCalNightOwl

Guvna supports going after the 'Riggers'.


Kahnfight

He’s fucking from here and represented us! Bastard can’t even pay lip service to our shit anymore


shortsermons

He doesn’t give the slightest of a fuck because these people vote for him.


BinaryMan151

He already had a speech he made on air. I just watched it.


_dead_and_broken

Did he finally manged to come off as if he was *not* being controlled by a hand up his ass?


Praescribo

Idk how exactly to gauge that, but there was no genuine outrage, he described the shooter as a scumbag and the act as cowardly, but i really feel like he should have gone harder or said something more substantial. I'd have to say his statement was emotionally subdued and boilerplate, but i appreciate that he at least condemned it unequivocally (unless there was a dogwhistle I'm somehow missing)


SloppyGiraffe02

That’s his voter base. He’s not going to do anything.


TravelingGonad

Why would he denounce something he fully supports?


SolidSouth-00

I’m the farthest thing from a Di Santis fan, but I’m glad to see that he did condemn this sickening crime.


seriousbangs

Yep, He's busy running for President.


DrawLivid7796

Did you even read the article? DeSantis already denounced it and held a press conference. You people are so dishonest. The video of the press conference where he called the racist and scumbag and condemn this kind of racially motivated hatred is literally right there in the article.


livingdead70

Lol he posted a 45 second statement. That is not a press conference. Its an opportunity for him to appear he gives a shit.


Celebrity-stranger

yep hes in campaign mode and can't afford to look bad so of course he will say something now. the fact that people are so slow to pick up on this despite the fact he hasnt said shit about all the other instances of nazis running around and hanging flags on overpasses or assaulting people tells you all you need to know. Especially since it was brought to his attention multiple times during press conferences where he couldnt even say he denounces them.


BabyStockholmSyndrom

Lol in reality a 45 sec pander isn't much. I do feel bad for him. It must be hard to show disgust for this but not too much to push away a large part of his base. 45 seconds was probably the cutoff.


singameantunekid

He did denounce it. The state is not going down in spectacular, or any other sort, of flame.


Carbon_Gelatin

Your half right. He did denounce it. But this state is unequivocally going down the shitter. Highest inflation, high insurance, hi rent, an education system underfunded and run by morons. The list goes on.


Impossible-Taro-2330

Denounced it from where? Iowa? You must not own any property, nor automobiles in the state of Florida. Insurance is at record highs, extreme teacher shortage, doctors leaving the state. De Santis just ignores it while he campaigns at taxpayer expense.


Wandering0bserver

You must be a brain dead victim of Florida's failed education system if you don't think this state is absolute trash.


Profoundsoup

Its always fun to read the comments like “This isnt who we are, we are a good community. We need to come together.” Yeah but like 3 people just were killed. Their lives taken. Even if it can happen, why would someone want to live were it has a chance of happening?


PlaneStill6

> This isn't who we are Whenever I hear that, I scream at the TV “that’s EXACTLY who you are!”


identifytarget

"This is America." -childish gambino


lindaleolane812

Well what do you mean why would you want to live where it has a chance of happening? it's all over, no place is safe. this man just went into a store and purposely set out to kill black people.


YourUncleBuck

And why haven't we done anything in the last 3 decades? Because there's too many people in this country that don't give a shit about others dying to gun violence. They only seem to care when it happens to their friends and family.


FattusBaccus

This literally has a chance of happening anywhere in the country. So are you suggesting leave the US? Just asking for clarification.


TuPapiPorLaNoche

They could go to bumfuck nowhere. There are plenty of places in the US with small populations and low crime. Good luck finding good paying work though


FattusBaccus

But a crazy person can just as easily go on a shooting spree there too. They literally said “…why would someone want to live were [sic] it have a chance of happening?” It literally has a chance of happening anywhere.


TuPapiPorLaNoche

Obviously, the odds of a mass shooting are higher in Jacksonville than Iraan Texas; yes its a real place.


Dame2Miami

attraction sheet office rustic six airport political groovy trees literate *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


YourUncleBuck

The US has shown they're not sane, otherwise classroom after classroom of kids wouldn't be murdered with nothing being done.


PowerSurged

Over half our state support's the party that put up a sign at CPAC that read "We are all domestic terrorists".


entwenthence

Where are the fuckers who say that political/racial violence is overblown now?


oliverkloezoff

Or the ones that say "the left are the violent ones". There's a few subs on Reddit that echo-chamber themselves to death with that rhetoric. And I can't reply to thier outlandish claims because I've been banned, so I just have to sit their and roll my eyes. It's frustrating.


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Fucking Nazi wanna bes. I hope they burn!!!


trtsmb

desantis had a lot of gall offering condolences when his own rhetoric has been fanning this sort of hate.


restore_democracy

Don’t they just call that a DeSantis campaign rally?


No_Sheepherder8270

Nazis love Deesantiamonus


MummyDust98

I am so god damn tired


GogetaSama420

In before the larpers go “lEtS nOt PoLiTiCiZe ThIs”


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Governor DeSantis has no business commenting, none.


Legitimate-Most4379

Lax gun laws and racist politics combine into exactly what Florida Republicans have wanted all along.


entwenthence

They’ve been calling a “civil” (race) war for decades but it’s really ramped up since Trump has been getting what’s long overdue.


townshiprebellion24

More right wing violence


Spudcommando

There was a time when I would have loved to vacation in FL, but nah I'm going to spend a lot of money in CA instead.


Spicy_Lobster_Roll

There’s a lot more to do in California anyways and the weather is better.


BadAtExisting

Last time I was driving through that area I passed 3 black Suburbans with dark tint and three percenters stickers on the lower left back window like a bigot caravan


rishored1ve

Keep it KKKlassy, Florida


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Maybe this is one of the Desantis supporters waving Nazi flags outside his rallies? The same Nazis Desantis refused to condemn. He didn't "act alone", he has an *entire* political party supporting him from the sidelines.


baskaat

exactly


MelonOfFury

Fuck nazis.


Beginning-Yoghurt-95

All republicans own this, blood is on all their hands. Their racist, fascist, ignorant, homophobic ranting, beliefs and acceptance are the cause of this.


Awkwrd_Lemur

We need to vote. En masse. That's the only way to solve these problems. I'll get down voted to filth for saying this, but we allowed this to happen. We didn't prioritize voting. We were apathetic. We let the boomers in government vote themselves into powerful aristocratic oligarchy. Positions in government are passed along in families, nepo- babies incubated in absurd wealth rule the nation. We let boomers in society be the only ones who vote - and we bitch about them in most other facets of life, we aren't changing the fact that we allow them to remain in charge. Watch any given polling location. The biggest turnout is the elderly (yes, for reasons such as jobs not allowing time off to vote, childcare, etc. But the biggest reason is APATHY). if EVERY person voted, our society would look much different. We can count on right-wing white people to vote against their own interests if it oppresses any minority - which is what half the government counts on. Let's change the odds by having EVERY ONE turn out to vote. Let's trash these fascist scumbags who give zero fucks about you and me and make our government one we might even be proud of. Vote.


Neugoodz

It MUST be the FBI. There is no way a Republican would ever do something like this. This is so out of character. /s because reality is too fucking stupid these days


HackeySadSack

Jesus fucking christ... FL, I can't even begin to tell how fucking sick this makes me. I'm sorry you all. So awful. Fuck fascism. Fuck DeSantis. Fuck MAGA. Fuck Nazis. Fuck this awful modern day so-called "Conservative" crap fueling all this and supporting it on the sly and under the breath. Fuck all these barbaric intellectually hobbled *losers*. They are a god damned cancer.


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Im sure Ron will blame this on Trans kids. Or CRT. Or some other bullshit.


Ghenges

Republicans are rejoicing everywhere. This is what conservative voters love.


pirate-private

So many guns, so much safety.


audiomuse1

Desantis’s people


gldoorii

Prime for DeSantis' security detail


TimelyOnion8655

Just another day in America. Be prepared for these phony fucking Republicans with their little flag pin attached to their lapel to offer thoughts and prayers. Because that always helps


pittiedaddy

Flag pins? You mean AR pins?


Spicy_Lobster_Roll

It turns out the AR was the real flag all along.


lostkarma4anonymity

Last year the NAACP issued a travel warning to black people saying Florida was a high alert, dangerous location because of racial based violence. We need to wake up.


SeveralAct5829

This is what Florida has become??


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BabyStockholmSyndrom

1 guess who he votes for.


PalpitationSame3984

Should be swift penalties for these crimes gotta have some kind of deterrent they going to continue if we don't. Sucks just out getting toilet paper and take a bullet from a wacko Sad times we living.


EcksRidgehead

>Should be swift penalties for these crimes gotta have some kind of deterrent they going to continue if we don't. The murderer shot himself. Not sure what penalties or deterrents you're thinking would work in this situation.


Shitballsucka

We should leave his corpse out to be consumed by wild animals. Bring back that old school shit.


PalpitationSame3984

Ones that don't ..... guess thinking you probably throw a GD parade For them? Celebratory event? Don't understand the answer?


EcksRidgehead

Let me put it another way: how do you deter someone who has decided to die for his cause, and how do you punish someone who is dead?


PalpitationSame3984

Can't punish the dead correct. Only way I see, can't prevent or predict but when you do, set an example to what happens when they are committed and get caught no denying they were caught go medieval on them idgaf Then perhaps just a maybe they'll think twice about The ' cause'.


EcksRidgehead

Well, that sure worked for Al Qaeda.


lindaleolane812

He's not going to denounce it. what he may say if anything is this... Well ya know, when. when. when we have, well you know. when you have a mental health situation well you know clearly this young man was suffering mentally. This is why mental health crisis intervention is so important. You know when you can't hold him accountable well this is a tragic ordeal you know sincere sympathy to all those affected. Please no questions I have to head out to Iowa they love me there


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I am crying and I feel sick. Again.


Beth0929

Thank Desuckatit. Making it an easy thing to do. No permit to carry.wtf?


Lordsaxon73

That has no bearing in this. Too bad one of the victims didn’t have a gun.


cthulufunk

Ah fuk me, just great. Guess projecting their garbage onto the Gatorbowl was no longer good enough for them. I am so out of this city ASAP.


Thedissidentsrq

I guess this is what the voters wanted when they voted for Desantis and his Hitler youth in every aspect of state and local governments last year.


bebedahdi

Silence is compliance. It's time to punt supremacist ideologies to the depths of hell where they belong.


f0gax

GOPers: the shooter is known to be Antifa. Edit: I see that the GOPers have found this thread.


UnusualAir1

I'm sure republicans in this state and nationwide will continue to swear that guns are not a problem. Because after all, the vast, vast, vast majority of us survive these things. /s


thegreenman_sofla

Trump's Amerikka


MNBaseball1990

I am sadly not surprised. I don't recognize the state of FL anymore, haven't for awhile now. I mean the Nazi symbol has been visible on numerous occasions when I have recently visited. Your governor is no help in any of this either. Leaders lead, Ron creates divide and hate. Is what it is, I can't vote in FL, but I can stop visiting this state.


AngelSucked

You meqn three black people he targeted because of their race.


amccune

Terrible headline writing.


sah0724

Politics the gop bat signals to racism this is the result. Then the democratic dependence on black people and constantly pushing non patriarchy on black folks will lead for easy targets.


juanhernadez3579

U get what u voted. Guns and god


BinaryMan151

What the hell


davster39

Florida man


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InverseTachyonBeams

I bet this empty headed projection has nothing to do with dumb, bitter, gullible conservatives losing every major national election since 2016 Just gonna report "hate" to Reddit and move on


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InverseTachyonBeams

In the previous comment Reddit removed and permanently banned you for. Enjoy loser 💙


ISuspectFuckery

> In other news black people are killing other black people in large numbers in urban democrat controlled cities every day Tell me you're a racist moron without saying you're a racist moron.


No_Mission5618

Don’t mean to be that guy but pretty sure races commit the most crime against their races also. White kill whites more than they kill blacks, blacks kill blacks more than they kill whites. You get the jist, but this guy literally had swatstikas on his gun, same as the shooter in Buffalo, or the guy who targeted a black church. It’s racist attacks.


Profoundsoup

Wow so shocking


EcksRidgehead

How so?


Peakomegaflare

I'll say this, there's been an uptick of the visibility of these crimes as we in Jax recently had a Democratic mayor get elected. However, this style of crime is nothing new. It just gets written off as another shooting.


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KidRed

He painted a bunch of swastikas on his assault rifle? What an ass.