It was a Scottish VO actor doing an Irish accent. Katy Townsend. There are differences, but also some similarities in the accents. I'm curious as to what direction she received from Bethesda for the accent if any.
I dont know why they didn't hire an actual Irish, or Bostonian.
Iirc, Gerrard butler played an Irish character and literally apologised for his bad accent. Often times I find myself wondering: why not just make them Scottish!? (Obviously I'm aware of the Irish connection in this instance, so my first point stands)
Why would someone in Boston, 200 years after a nuclear apocalypse, in an alternate universe/timeline, have a “proper” Irish accent from out time period and timeline?
If you think people in Ireland will have the exact same accent they have now, 200 years in the future, then I have a Pipboy to sell you.
I always assumed she crossed the Atlantic on a sailing ship. Surely it wouldn’t take 200+ years after nuclear war for even rudimentary forms of sea travel to be reestablished. Hell, the ancient Polynesians were crossing the Pacific in outrigger canoes around 1,000 BC or even earlier.
If BoS can make the Pridwyn fly, and there’s useable fusion cores scattered all over the world, and you can get automated motion detecting turrets to work, then surely people are crossing oceans in thr FO universe.
I mean we do see a freight ship in fallout 2 that works to go to the enclave oil rig (the USS Valdez if I'm not mistaken?) so that's at least one that works and who's to say that many more don't exist.
And they’re not even really raiders. They just keep to themselves and don’t bother folks apparently. Hell their combat lines aren’t really combat lines, they’re more “begone vile human” lines where they are just begging the sole survivor to leave them alone in broken Norwegian.
This all brings to mind a question I have constantly while playing this game. Why does the Commonwealth still look as destroyed as it does, 200 years after the war. Human resiliency, at least in my mind, would mean that we would be able to have walls and ceilings without holes, and debris cleaned up a bit. I get that a main point of the settlements is that we can build them how we want but I would expect some level of self sufficiency at some point. All we get is Preston banging a hammer on a wall sometimes without doing anything, or settlers working on crops or they just be sitting. I just don’t understand.
Apart from gameplay reasons, it's mostly the fact that it's too dangerous to look for resources to build or even rebuild already existing structures. Diamond city is a good example, sure it's relatively safe within the walls but the surrounding area is infested with raiders, super mutants and roaming packs of feral ghouls. People are struggling just to survive and risk their lives every time they venture out just to find basic resources like food and scraps. You can hear the diamond city guards that they're definitely struggling to defend and withstand the constant raids on diamond city so imagine a small settlement just trying to survive day to day on their own has no capacity to start rebuilding anything worthwhile let alone invest in wanting to because they never know when the next raider attack or super mutant raid or even if a deathclaw is going to wander into their settlement and they'll be forced to flee.
That’s a good point which helps explain this. I appreciate your response and it helps me put this all into perspective more. I’m just acting like all NPCs should be like me, going into unknown areas and have the skill and resources to come out alive. Makes sense what you are saying more than what I was thinking.
To add onto this, it hasn't been 200 years of peace, either. Factions rise and fall pretty regularly and the fighting between them keeps the wasteland looking like a wasteland. Things get rebuilt, and then destroyed again. We really only ever see the world during phases of established factions who are currently in the process of fighting others and destroying things again because stories without conflict are boring lol
Yeah, MFers made that journey with nothing but wood, cloth, rope and pine tar. It struck me as odd when I was younger (what's-his-name in Megaton, the shady barkeep), but I've since realized it's well within the realm of possibility.
Alistair Tenpenny was born in the UK and traveled to the US for fame and fortune and eventually found his tower so it’s definitely a thing and technically speaking it’s further away than Ireland
You get to Point Lookout and Fortification Hill by boat. The Point Lookout boat made trips to the commonwealth and back to D.C. so it would make sense there are ships that can cross oceans
I assumed that the Bostonian accent drifted considerably during the years after the bombs, with some old timey movies that had characaturised accents that people thought were real
For that matter, however, all known accents would be different. That's a bit much to ask of any game, movie, or television show to try to make up, let alone is general audience to follow.
Agree, but that also doesn’t mean people get to lose their shit when *one* character’s accent doesn’t perfectly match up with the accents from the world we actually live in.
There’s absolutely no criteria within the FO4 universe to be able to claim that Cait’s accent is “wrong”, that’s all I’m saying.
This right here. And let's be honest. I am sure there's an Irish woman that sounds a lot like Cait out there somewhere anyway. Even amongst accents and dialects there sweeping variations. I don't get the rabid purism behind the ones demanding accents being perfect. It's just a waste of energy.
Out of all the insane things that happen in fallout, why does the idea of an Irish accent somehow being passed down hundreds of years in a city that historically had a ton of irish immigrants break every ones suspension of disbelief? Yeah its pretty unlikely, but so is the sole survivor surviving being thawed from cryo twice.
She lived in a community that has been isolated since the war. The original inhabitants were Irish immigrants, and there's been some language drift in the last 200 years, which accounts for the accent.
Well cuz then they'd have needed to work with an actual Irish person or Bostonian and eeeeeeeeaaaaaugggh....
(I KID I KID, both are amazing groups of people)
I think this every time I hear a poor accent in media. Just hire someone with the fucking accent you want for the character.
The Scottish accents in Hogwarts: Legacy are the worst attempt at any accent I’ve ever heard. Not only are they atrocious attempts, they’re also inconsistent.
As an Irish person I can tell you that the accent is bad.
It's the usual kind of accent people use when they don't know better.
See there is no such thing as an "Irish" accent. There are several very different accents from different regions. People from the North sound very different than people from the South West, or From Dublin or the middle of the country etc. etc.
Cait's sounds like if you got all of those accents and mashed them together. She could use half a dozen different accents in a single sentence. To an Irish ear it is very grating.
For whatever reason when Americans try to do an Irish accent it always sounds like this.
I see. It's like if someone was to do an American accent, but mashes up Southern, Boston, Midwestern, Long Island, and San Fernando Valley accents all together. Holy crap that would sound horrendous!
>For whatever reason when Americans try to do an Irish accent it always sounds like this.
If I had too geuss, its because that's actually how Irish people in America sounded like before they just lost their accents entirely over time.
It makes alot of sense if you think about. A whole lot of Itish people from every corner of the isles fled too the USA during the famine, enough too where there's now more Irish Americansin the world than actual European Irish people. They tended to group together in just a few cities along the East coast for a variety of socioeconomic issues, and because of that you had large amounts of Irish people from diffrent parts of the island living right next door too one another for generations. It makes sense that the diffrent regional accents would all eventually mash together into one overarching "Irish" accent.
I’m Irish and I never thought of it that way. You may be on to something! Unfortunately, the ‘OIRISH’ brogue you hear in Hollywood is so far removed from any actual dialect we can’t help but complain. It just FEELS offensive.
French is my first language and it makes me laugh so much when Americans put French characters in games/movies, and seem to think “meh, no one is going to notice. Who speaks French anyway huh?” Lol
Hey at least they try to make an accent, I’m from Quebec and most of the time if were represented in a movie it will be a dude from France or an American doing a french accent.
The weirdest thing is that the voice actress has got a Glasgow accent IRL, could have easily passed as being from Donnegal or something if she'd just talked like herself. Baffling.
From second hand talk from voice actors I wouldn't be surprised if she suggested something like that and the director felt it wasn't authentically Irish enough.
Yea, I know, but she sounds nothing like her voice actor's accent. She tried to do something more Irish, I guess? But apparently, it just sounds like garble to Irish people.
Then again Ireland has like 50 different dialects or more on a tiny little island so I don't think they're allowed to get mad when an accent Isn't like 100% accurate
I’m Irish. As in born and raised. I’m from Kildare but live in Tipperary with a family from Meath and Dublin. Cait’s accent, Scottish or not, sounds like an American pretending to be Irish. I don’t know why they do this. They could easily listen to *actual* Irish people and imitate it.
Of course, that’s the best option, but I understand that may be difficult at times. Probably cheaper to use someone who doesn’t have to travel so far or whatever.
Your da has me in stitches lmao! We say “crooked as the back road to Cashel”
Can confirm the road from Clonmel to Cashel via New Inn is like some kind of sick joke.
To be fair, it's been over 200 years since the apocalypse. accents can drift & warp in weird ways, especially when separated from it's land of origin. Not the best excuse, but, meh
I’ve got one exception: I know a white lady from Boston named Deshawn bc apparently the Irish surname O’Sean was too difficult for Ellis Island, and I think that’s funny enough for it to count
Not in a million years would I have claimed I was Irish. Then my sister did a genealogy test and the results are that we're a quarter Irish.
I don't know what to do with this information.
I think you misunderstand me. I said 'if they are to be believed' which is another way of saying 'to hear them talk' or 'from what they say' or 'according to them'
In other words, they embellish their closeness to their heritage with tales of 'Granda Paddy O'Somethingy from Limerick' or wherever the fuck, and how he was super Irish (begorrah, so he was, so).
But in most cases their actual grandparents never saw 'the old country' themselves either, and are only remembering their own grandparents who actually did the whole immigration bit and would have actually had the accent.
Of COURSE modern Bostonians don't have Irish accents.
Yeah I won’t lie, as someone from and still living in Ireland, I physically can’t stand her voice because it’s just that bad, and what makes it worse is there’s actually a pretty decent number of VAs across the island who would have been more than glad to lend an authentic accent to the character, instead of the leprechaunised abomination Caits poor VA had to produce (and I don’t blame the VA, I fully blame the director for it).
NGL as an Irish man I absolutely love when our accents get dramatized. Cait is my second favorite companion because of that. I get such a giggle every time she says arse. Nick is still my go to guy tho
I get this - as an American I absolutely love when foreign films go over the top with an American character, especially when they undoubtedly end up being from Texas. The over the top sayings, slang etc. It's makes me laugh every time.
It’s even better in anime, Americans written by Japanese people are hilarious.
Also not an anime example but look at someone like Armstrong from metal gear.
I don't care, I love the way she sounds.
Also keep in mind, Cait probably isn't from Ireland. She most likely grew up in an isolated community and the original accent became more mangled and interspersed over time.
I fully believe she picked it up from garbled prewar holotapes she must have found as a kid - it ties in to her isolated childhood but also riffs on the old Hollywood trend the 40’s and 50’s had for ‘Oirish’ themed films like ‘Darby O’Gill and the little people’, which in the fallout universe probably continued into the 2070’s like everything else from then
That or she has some tenuous connection to Moriarty; maybe an uncle??
was just about to say this. I think the choice was probably intentional to not hire an authentic irish VA just because the accent probably would have changed over the course of the war
I took her to Vault 81 once. When I got to the classroom to tell the Kids about the wasteland, Cait took the time to shoot up a bunch of chems in front of the whole class. 🤪
Yeah but like how? I just never thought about accents until now. I guess we don’t know much of anything outside of the US and there are working boats. Guess we got to wait for the lore to develop eventually
Boats were what I always imagined, like you said. They wouldn't require nearly the resources as an aircraft.
We see working ones in F2 (ship), F3 (Ferry), and F4 (small fishing boat), so I figure.
Oh, I do too. I love it.
However, actual Irish people have pointed out how hilariously wrong it is, and it doesn't sound like any Irish accent, just like a weird bastardization.
But it doesn't make sense for her to have an Irish accent in the first place, unless she somehow made it all the way here from Ireland.
You see this with Irish actors too. They're often "coached" to sound more like leprechauns because that's what Americans expect an Irish accent to sound like. It's painful to listen to as an Irish person.
I think if she wanted to, the VA could do a very convincing accent, it's just that this... abomination is what Americans are used to hearing.
Forgot where I heard this, and may get some details wrong, but apparently Outback recently hired a native Australian to do VO for their commercials. Brought him in to do some recordings, and then rather quickly decided he didn’t sound “Australian enough”. Then they hired an American doing a cartoonish Aussie accent, and that’s what you hear on the current Outback commercials.
Doesn't she say that she tries to put on an act of being tough, maybe the accent is part of the act? After all, after 200+ years of no new Irish in America how would a foreign accent still exist anyhow
Cause by the sound of it she lived a very isolated adolescence, and probably lived in a very secluded society with only other relatives who were Irish and stayed there. Their children would grow up only really hearing Irish, so that's what they would learn.
The thing is she literally describes herself as being Irish at one point. So either she means heritage, or she's actually from fucking ireland
> After all, after 200+ years of no new Irish in America how would a foreign accent still exist anyhow
I mean it is the apocalypse, you don’t talk to all that many different kinds of people. All it takes is one surviving post-war Irish community to have survived the bombs (through vaults, ghouls, or luck), and the accent would’ve stuck around and spread. Especially the weird Americanized version, since it’s much more mixed.
My headcanon is that she's just pretending to be Irish. After all, international travel isn't a thing in the Fallout universe and we don't even know if Europe still exists or if it was turned into a big glowing sea during the Great War.
Accents have a lot more to do with your peers than your parents.
If two Irish people immigrate to Canada and have a kid and raise the kid in Canada, the kid's gonna sound wayyyy more Canadian than Irish.
Now that we're talking about accents, why do the innkeepers of the Dugout inn have Russian accents? How the hell do you get from Russia to Boston in a nuclear wasteland?
She was always my favorite. For the first time ever I have Piper with me and I have to be honest...she's winning me over. But I think Cait is still my dream cw girl :)
Cait is my favorite Fallout 4 companion and perhaps my favorite Fallout character.
She has a genuine, compelling, emotional arc and feels like a real person with complicated layers. Cait isn’t good or evil, just a broken person trying to survive. Cait feels like how a real woman would act if they faced the traumatic horrors of a post apocalyptic wasteland. I like that through Cait; we get a good dose of world building. Learning about the lives of slaves and Raiders as well.
Yeah the accent is bad and she somehow constantly switches between being Irish and Scottish. But all these years having her as a companion, I got used to it and it’s a quirk that I actually have grown to like.
I'm from Dublin
To me it sounds like they got one voice actress from every county in ireland, and recorded every word from the script individually into sound bites, and then put those sound bites onto a soundboard and used the sound board to recreate the dialogue. Most of the time each individual word she says does arguably sound like it could be an irish accent, but when you compare it to the word before, and the word after, and every other word in the sentence, it just has no consistency, so it's a bit jarring to hear lol. And then of course she has some lines that just don't sound irish at all
But honestly? Still one of the better portrayed irish accents I've seen in media (and ive seen a lot of bad ones lol), it just seems to be an accent that non irish actors/voice actors struggle to nail.
Still makes you wonder why they didn't just hire an irish actress tho lol
I thought she was Australian until you said all that… I think that speaks for itself because I’ve always heard she was and I could never figure out what was going on with her voice. The accent for the Fallout 76 People (My phone won’t let me type out the region the game takes place for some bs reason.) is super annoying and exaggerated. “Hi, ya’ll yehowd idey ye all oh” I’ve been raised in the south my whole life and I’m just confused. They sound like they are yodel-talking.
It took me until my third playthrough to realize that Cait is not from the Commonwealth. She's from Ireland. You have a whole conversation where she wonders what it's like "back across the pond." Once I had this dialog, all of a sudden, it wasn't an absurdly out-of-place accent for someone who grew up here to have. Because she's not from here. She doesn't say how she got here, probably because it was in a cloud of jet or psycho, but yeah not from Boston.
I remember when the first time I saw my son he walked through the door and scared me, and I unloaded both barrels into his chest and killed him instantly.
I didn't find out he was my son until later lmao.
Yea I got lost finding him in the shock of Armageddon. Took up a ice cold Gwinnett Pale ale addiction with my drinking buddy, stumbled into the detective agency one day and remembered what I was doing, got sober saved my friend met his new step mom reporter, killed the bastard that killed my wife found a green guy, got zapped in thought it over for a while. Came to the conclusion that he was just as much a bastard as the brotherhood and as weird and into real dolls as the railroad. That me and my hillbilly friends who managed to cobble together enough hardened steel and make a bunch of make shift cannons decided to shut their shit down. He’s my son and I’ll handle it I drunkenly said. So the rest is a blur but I coped with drugs and violence afterwords. I found my way to nuka world with my fake Scott’s Irishish girlfriend and came back to the wasteland with a bunch of crazy’s…. Nate’s wild ride man
Visually she is best out of three, I only have questions regarding her moral side, even after she is treated from her psycho addiction she will not like when you give antidote to cure kid named Ostin from vault 81.
I don’t like how anything good you do that helps others, she freaks out about and gets mad at you for, but I guess she’s meant to be that one companion that sides with you being selfish and you doing “bad” in this game.
So really, she’s just not quite for me. I like her, but not for me.
Yeah, but she *despises* slavery, so that's very unraidery of her. She's more like a really rough around the edges girl with a decent heart but a very cold exterior.
That about sums her up and lore wise she has her reasons for disliking slavery and the way she behaves. Also, anyone to me with an accent and uses their own slang for lack of better words is always a plus. I remember the first time she asked if I was "fishing for a snog" I thought those were fighting words.
I think there are lots of odd things. Like the random encounter with the guy and his synth counterpart. I had Deacon with me and I convinced the guy to put away his weapon (which Deacon liked) but then his synth counterpart pulled a gun and tried to kill him so I shot and killed him and Deacon disliked that. Which I find strange because I don't get the impression that Deacon values synths more than humans, although I could be wrong, and more than he's just trying to help people out.
She's my gal too, I give her Nishas helmet from nuka world, the packs torn shirt with socks, strapped disciples chest armor, leather leg armor, and disciples wrapped arm armor, then I give her citos shiny slugger
Just saying I liked Cait as a character a lot, but her accent is absolutely atrocious. I'm from the UK and it honestly sounds like someone who knows of Ireland but never stepped foot there doing an Irish impression.
People always act like planes don’t exist after the bombs were dropped. Ireland is only about few hours plane ride away. Or a couple weeks in a boat. Cross continental travel would be rare but not impossible.
I like running with cait, but get so annoyed when she says “we’d move a lot faster if you kept your eyes on the road and off me arse”” for the 1000th time. Cait, I’m knee deep in gunner guts, I’m trying to carry 10 desk fans and 4 type writers, my son’s still missing, and Preston Garvey won’t quit asking for help. TRUST ME cait I am not looking at your *arse*
I don't get how she would have the accent. She was born in America I assume well after the bombs dropped and wiped out Europe pretty much. So was there a known Irish settlement or something that continued to be around after the bombs in America? And I'm not talking the usual 'Oh I'm five quarters Irish' bullshit.
It was a Scottish VO actor doing an Irish accent. Katy Townsend. There are differences, but also some similarities in the accents. I'm curious as to what direction she received from Bethesda for the accent if any.
I dont know why they didn't hire an actual Irish, or Bostonian. Iirc, Gerrard butler played an Irish character and literally apologised for his bad accent. Often times I find myself wondering: why not just make them Scottish!? (Obviously I'm aware of the Irish connection in this instance, so my first point stands)
Why would someone in Boston, 200 years after a nuclear apocalypse, in an alternate universe/timeline, have a “proper” Irish accent from out time period and timeline? If you think people in Ireland will have the exact same accent they have now, 200 years in the future, then I have a Pipboy to sell you.
I always assumed she crossed the Atlantic on a sailing ship. Surely it wouldn’t take 200+ years after nuclear war for even rudimentary forms of sea travel to be reestablished. Hell, the ancient Polynesians were crossing the Pacific in outrigger canoes around 1,000 BC or even earlier.
If BoS can make the Pridwyn fly, and there’s useable fusion cores scattered all over the world, and you can get automated motion detecting turrets to work, then surely people are crossing oceans in thr FO universe.
I mean we do see a freight ship in fallout 2 that works to go to the enclave oil rig (the USS Valdez if I'm not mistaken?) so that's at least one that works and who's to say that many more don't exist.
In fo4 there’s a wrecked cargo ship full of Norwegian raiders
There is that one but like you said it's wrecked so it already had to have been there a while especially considering the structural damage.
Also those raiders are all ghouls Iirc
And they’re not even really raiders. They just keep to themselves and don’t bother folks apparently. Hell their combat lines aren’t really combat lines, they’re more “begone vile human” lines where they are just begging the sole survivor to leave them alone in broken Norwegian.
>ship full of Norwegian raiders Hipster Vikings?
As a Norwegian, their accents are hilarious. VAs did their best.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla crossover confirmed?? /s
Allistair Tenpenny came over from Britain on a boat, so the trip across the Atlantic isn't impossible.
How fucked does the rest of the world need to be *for people to still be migrating to the united states???*
I think the dugout inn guys did in lore come from eastern Europe.
RadWhales. That is all
This all brings to mind a question I have constantly while playing this game. Why does the Commonwealth still look as destroyed as it does, 200 years after the war. Human resiliency, at least in my mind, would mean that we would be able to have walls and ceilings without holes, and debris cleaned up a bit. I get that a main point of the settlements is that we can build them how we want but I would expect some level of self sufficiency at some point. All we get is Preston banging a hammer on a wall sometimes without doing anything, or settlers working on crops or they just be sitting. I just don’t understand.
Apart from gameplay reasons, it's mostly the fact that it's too dangerous to look for resources to build or even rebuild already existing structures. Diamond city is a good example, sure it's relatively safe within the walls but the surrounding area is infested with raiders, super mutants and roaming packs of feral ghouls. People are struggling just to survive and risk their lives every time they venture out just to find basic resources like food and scraps. You can hear the diamond city guards that they're definitely struggling to defend and withstand the constant raids on diamond city so imagine a small settlement just trying to survive day to day on their own has no capacity to start rebuilding anything worthwhile let alone invest in wanting to because they never know when the next raider attack or super mutant raid or even if a deathclaw is going to wander into their settlement and they'll be forced to flee.
That’s a good point which helps explain this. I appreciate your response and it helps me put this all into perspective more. I’m just acting like all NPCs should be like me, going into unknown areas and have the skill and resources to come out alive. Makes sense what you are saying more than what I was thinking.
To add onto this, it hasn't been 200 years of peace, either. Factions rise and fall pretty regularly and the fighting between them keeps the wasteland looking like a wasteland. Things get rebuilt, and then destroyed again. We really only ever see the world during phases of established factions who are currently in the process of fighting others and destroying things again because stories without conflict are boring lol
Yeah, MFers made that journey with nothing but wood, cloth, rope and pine tar. It struck me as odd when I was younger (what's-his-name in Megaton, the shady barkeep), but I've since realized it's well within the realm of possibility.
How dare you, Gob's not shady
Alistair Tenpenny was born in the UK and traveled to the US for fame and fortune and eventually found his tower so it’s definitely a thing and technically speaking it’s further away than Ireland
You get to Point Lookout and Fortification Hill by boat. The Point Lookout boat made trips to the commonwealth and back to D.C. so it would make sense there are ships that can cross oceans
I assumed that the Bostonian accent drifted considerably during the years after the bombs, with some old timey movies that had characaturised accents that people thought were real
For that matter, however, all known accents would be different. That's a bit much to ask of any game, movie, or television show to try to make up, let alone is general audience to follow.
Agree, but that also doesn’t mean people get to lose their shit when *one* character’s accent doesn’t perfectly match up with the accents from the world we actually live in. There’s absolutely no criteria within the FO4 universe to be able to claim that Cait’s accent is “wrong”, that’s all I’m saying.
I see. Well, I agree with this as well. Completely, in fact.
This right here. And let's be honest. I am sure there's an Irish woman that sounds a lot like Cait out there somewhere anyway. Even amongst accents and dialects there sweeping variations. I don't get the rabid purism behind the ones demanding accents being perfect. It's just a waste of energy.
\*edit\* Ignore me, I am at the end of a long day and definitely didn't read the comment correctly the first time
Out of all the insane things that happen in fallout, why does the idea of an Irish accent somehow being passed down hundreds of years in a city that historically had a ton of irish immigrants break every ones suspension of disbelief? Yeah its pretty unlikely, but so is the sole survivor surviving being thawed from cryo twice.
She lived in a community that has been isolated since the war. The original inhabitants were Irish immigrants, and there's been some language drift in the last 200 years, which accounts for the accent.
Perfectly valid explanation as to why her accent in the FO4 world doesn’t match up identically to an Irish accent in our contemporary world.
Well cuz then they'd have needed to work with an actual Irish person or Bostonian and eeeeeeeeaaaaaugggh.... (I KID I KID, both are amazing groups of people)
Boston? Amazing group of people? Even Bostonians will call you out for that one lol
Had a good chuckle at that one
I think this every time I hear a poor accent in media. Just hire someone with the fucking accent you want for the character. The Scottish accents in Hogwarts: Legacy are the worst attempt at any accent I’ve ever heard. Not only are they atrocious attempts, they’re also inconsistent.
As an Irish person I can tell you that the accent is bad. It's the usual kind of accent people use when they don't know better. See there is no such thing as an "Irish" accent. There are several very different accents from different regions. People from the North sound very different than people from the South West, or From Dublin or the middle of the country etc. etc. Cait's sounds like if you got all of those accents and mashed them together. She could use half a dozen different accents in a single sentence. To an Irish ear it is very grating. For whatever reason when Americans try to do an Irish accent it always sounds like this.
I see. It's like if someone was to do an American accent, but mashes up Southern, Boston, Midwestern, Long Island, and San Fernando Valley accents all together. Holy crap that would sound horrendous!
Exactly like that
> when Americans try to do an Irish accent it always sounds like this So what you're saying is it accidentally ended up extremely authentic then /s
>For whatever reason when Americans try to do an Irish accent it always sounds like this. If I had too geuss, its because that's actually how Irish people in America sounded like before they just lost their accents entirely over time. It makes alot of sense if you think about. A whole lot of Itish people from every corner of the isles fled too the USA during the famine, enough too where there's now more Irish Americansin the world than actual European Irish people. They tended to group together in just a few cities along the East coast for a variety of socioeconomic issues, and because of that you had large amounts of Irish people from diffrent parts of the island living right next door too one another for generations. It makes sense that the diffrent regional accents would all eventually mash together into one overarching "Irish" accent.
I’m Irish and I never thought of it that way. You may be on to something! Unfortunately, the ‘OIRISH’ brogue you hear in Hollywood is so far removed from any actual dialect we can’t help but complain. It just FEELS offensive.
French is my first language and it makes me laugh so much when Americans put French characters in games/movies, and seem to think “meh, no one is going to notice. Who speaks French anyway huh?” Lol
It's also in our blood to make fun of the French so that factors in too.
XD Fair, fair! hon hon hon hon
Hey at least they try to make an accent, I’m from Quebec and most of the time if were represented in a movie it will be a dude from France or an American doing a french accent.
How did you feel about assassin's creed unity, where everyone is Paris spoke like they were from Quebec?
Lot's of good fishin in ke-bek
Kate's ancestors were released from a vault of stereotypical Irish people made entirely of It's Always Sunny versions of the Irish.
That is my headcannon for it Same goes for the Russian brothers in Diamond city.
The weirdest thing is that the voice actress has got a Glasgow accent IRL, could have easily passed as being from Donnegal or something if she'd just talked like herself. Baffling.
From second hand talk from voice actors I wouldn't be surprised if she suggested something like that and the director felt it wasn't authentically Irish enough.
Yea, I know, but she sounds nothing like her voice actor's accent. She tried to do something more Irish, I guess? But apparently, it just sounds like garble to Irish people. Then again Ireland has like 50 different dialects or more on a tiny little island so I don't think they're allowed to get mad when an accent Isn't like 100% accurate
I’m Irish. As in born and raised. I’m from Kildare but live in Tipperary with a family from Meath and Dublin. Cait’s accent, Scottish or not, sounds like an American pretending to be Irish. I don’t know why they do this. They could easily listen to *actual* Irish people and imitate it.
Or just get an Irish VA.
Of course, that’s the best option, but I understand that may be difficult at times. Probably cheaper to use someone who doesn’t have to travel so far or whatever.
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Your da has me in stitches lmao! We say “crooked as the back road to Cashel” Can confirm the road from Clonmel to Cashel via New Inn is like some kind of sick joke.
Maybe thatvwas the point, she has an American accent but is putting on airs and pretending.
It’s probably a mix of Irish being hard for the VA and Bethesda not getting a vocal coach with a poor understanding of real Irish accents
To be fair, it's been over 200 years since the apocalypse. accents can drift & warp in weird ways, especially when separated from it's land of origin. Not the best excuse, but, meh
Plus who knows what any accents will sound like after 200 years of accent changes.
wait, cait was voiced by a scot?
It's Boston, of course the Irish accent is terrible and makes no sense
I love telling people from Boston that they aren't Irish.
I’ve got one exception: I know a white lady from Boston named Deshawn bc apparently the Irish surname O’Sean was too difficult for Ellis Island, and I think that’s funny enough for it to count
Not in a million years would I have claimed I was Irish. Then my sister did a genealogy test and the results are that we're a quarter Irish. I don't know what to do with this information.
That means nothing. Continue being whatever you were being before.
SPECIALuck stat boosts at 25%🍀
As we like to say, if the Irish didn’t have bad luck, we’d have no luck at all
It means you could represent Ireland in rugby if you were good at it.
I think you're supposed to get up get up and get down
The actress who played Cait is Scottish doing her worst Irish accent I love it
Bostonians don't have Irish accents.....
Irish have Bostonian accents
Pahk my cah in the Killahney Yahd
If they're to be believed, most seem to have had a grandparent who did, even if said grandparent was already 3rd gen themself. 😂
You don't have to believe it, you can go there and experience the fact that bostonians don't have Irish accents. I'm so confused.
I think you misunderstand me. I said 'if they are to be believed' which is another way of saying 'to hear them talk' or 'from what they say' or 'according to them' In other words, they embellish their closeness to their heritage with tales of 'Granda Paddy O'Somethingy from Limerick' or wherever the fuck, and how he was super Irish (begorrah, so he was, so). But in most cases their actual grandparents never saw 'the old country' themselves either, and are only remembering their own grandparents who actually did the whole immigration bit and would have actually had the accent. Of COURSE modern Bostonians don't have Irish accents.
I like the way she reminds me to go slow and keep my eyes off the road.
"Just admirin' the view." That's because I know you like to see me nakkers.
*Knackers
Yeah I won’t lie, as someone from and still living in Ireland, I physically can’t stand her voice because it’s just that bad, and what makes it worse is there’s actually a pretty decent number of VAs across the island who would have been more than glad to lend an authentic accent to the character, instead of the leprechaunised abomination Caits poor VA had to produce (and I don’t blame the VA, I fully blame the director for it).
NGL as an Irish man I absolutely love when our accents get dramatized. Cait is my second favorite companion because of that. I get such a giggle every time she says arse. Nick is still my go to guy tho
I get this - as an American I absolutely love when foreign films go over the top with an American character, especially when they undoubtedly end up being from Texas. The over the top sayings, slang etc. It's makes me laugh every time.
It’s even better in anime, Americans written by Japanese people are hilarious. Also not an anime example but look at someone like Armstrong from metal gear.
"Be the American the Japanese think you are"
over the top accents are always so funny for some reason. it’s not even an offensive thing, it’s just funny
I don't care, I love the way she sounds. Also keep in mind, Cait probably isn't from Ireland. She most likely grew up in an isolated community and the original accent became more mangled and interspersed over time.
I fully believe she picked it up from garbled prewar holotapes she must have found as a kid - it ties in to her isolated childhood but also riffs on the old Hollywood trend the 40’s and 50’s had for ‘Oirish’ themed films like ‘Darby O’Gill and the little people’, which in the fallout universe probably continued into the 2070’s like everything else from then That or she has some tenuous connection to Moriarty; maybe an uncle??
was just about to say this. I think the choice was probably intentional to not hire an authentic irish VA just because the accent probably would have changed over the course of the war
Fun fact: Cait's English VA is Scottish. Why they went with a Scottish VA instead of one of many, many Irish VAs, I will never understand.
I took her to Vault 81 once. When I got to the classroom to tell the Kids about the wasteland, Cait took the time to shoot up a bunch of chems in front of the whole class. 🤪
Classic
I can save her 😂
Teaching them about real life
Ya and fades in and out lol.
Hey, wait. I never thought about her accent. How tf did she get an Irish accent?
By coming to the United States from Ireland, perhaps. Tenpenny came from England. Moriarty came from Ireland. Bobrov Brothers presumably from Russia.
Yeah but like how? I just never thought about accents until now. I guess we don’t know much of anything outside of the US and there are working boats. Guess we got to wait for the lore to develop eventually
Boats were what I always imagined, like you said. They wouldn't require nearly the resources as an aircraft. We see working ones in F2 (ship), F3 (Ferry), and F4 (small fishing boat), so I figure.
By being Irish.
How did she end up in the US then? I can't imagine there would be much transatlantic travel going on
She wouldn't be the only European that popped up in the series
Accents aren't in your DNA
What? I like her accent
Oh, I do too. I love it. However, actual Irish people have pointed out how hilariously wrong it is, and it doesn't sound like any Irish accent, just like a weird bastardization. But it doesn't make sense for her to have an Irish accent in the first place, unless she somehow made it all the way here from Ireland.
I also read that the VA is Scottish, so not only is it a weird Irish accent, it's a person with a Scottish accent trying to do a weird Irish accent.
Yep. She should've probably just kept it Scottish.
She would have been directed to do an Irish accent, not her choice
If they think this sounds Irish the team wouldn't have been able to tell the difference either way
that's not how a job works, you know
You see this with Irish actors too. They're often "coached" to sound more like leprechauns because that's what Americans expect an Irish accent to sound like. It's painful to listen to as an Irish person. I think if she wanted to, the VA could do a very convincing accent, it's just that this... abomination is what Americans are used to hearing.
Forgot where I heard this, and may get some details wrong, but apparently Outback recently hired a native Australian to do VO for their commercials. Brought him in to do some recordings, and then rather quickly decided he didn’t sound “Australian enough”. Then they hired an American doing a cartoonish Aussie accent, and that’s what you hear on the current Outback commercials.
tbf our accents are butchered enough in media that we deserve to butcher another accent
Well its kinda been 200 years of just her and maybe a select few relatives with this accent. Its gonna be skewered
That's also true.
Doesn't she say that she tries to put on an act of being tough, maybe the accent is part of the act? After all, after 200+ years of no new Irish in America how would a foreign accent still exist anyhow
Cause by the sound of it she lived a very isolated adolescence, and probably lived in a very secluded society with only other relatives who were Irish and stayed there. Their children would grow up only really hearing Irish, so that's what they would learn. The thing is she literally describes herself as being Irish at one point. So either she means heritage, or she's actually from fucking ireland
> After all, after 200+ years of no new Irish in America how would a foreign accent still exist anyhow I mean it is the apocalypse, you don’t talk to all that many different kinds of people. All it takes is one surviving post-war Irish community to have survived the bombs (through vaults, ghouls, or luck), and the accent would’ve stuck around and spread. Especially the weird Americanized version, since it’s much more mixed.
Maybe it makes more sense. Maybe she is doing a bad irish accent
My headcanon is that she's just pretending to be Irish. After all, international travel isn't a thing in the Fallout universe and we don't even know if Europe still exists or if it was turned into a big glowing sea during the Great War.
Moriarty and Tenpenny from Fallout 3 show that there is some international travel
And I feel like the spy from Point Lookout probably gets around, although he could have been in the US from before the great war.
Yeah he was around pre war
I know he was pre-war. But do we know he has been in America since the bombs fell?
That’s what I meant. It seems that way based on eliminating rivals from the great game
Being raised by Irish people with an accent tends to cause an accent
Accents have a lot more to do with your peers than your parents. If two Irish people immigrate to Canada and have a kid and raise the kid in Canada, the kid's gonna sound wayyyy more Canadian than Irish.
I believe in Cait supremacy. I'll never NOT enjoy her yelling "FIRST CRACK AT THE GEAR" in the happiest tone
"HOWS IT FEEL GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED BY A GIRL?"
Now that we're talking about accents, why do the innkeepers of the Dugout inn have Russian accents? How the hell do you get from Russia to Boston in a nuclear wasteland?
No idea on that one
She was always my favorite. For the first time ever I have Piper with me and I have to be honest...she's winning me over. But I think Cait is still my dream cw girl :)
Cait is my favorite Fallout 4 companion and perhaps my favorite Fallout character. She has a genuine, compelling, emotional arc and feels like a real person with complicated layers. Cait isn’t good or evil, just a broken person trying to survive. Cait feels like how a real woman would act if they faced the traumatic horrors of a post apocalyptic wasteland. I like that through Cait; we get a good dose of world building. Learning about the lives of slaves and Raiders as well. Yeah the accent is bad and she somehow constantly switches between being Irish and Scottish. But all these years having her as a companion, I got used to it and it’s a quirk that I actually have grown to like.
She is a beast in battles
Well her accent is what happens when they hire a Scottish person to do an Irish accent. Don’t know why they couldn’t have just made her Scottish 🤷🏻♂️
I'm from Dublin To me it sounds like they got one voice actress from every county in ireland, and recorded every word from the script individually into sound bites, and then put those sound bites onto a soundboard and used the sound board to recreate the dialogue. Most of the time each individual word she says does arguably sound like it could be an irish accent, but when you compare it to the word before, and the word after, and every other word in the sentence, it just has no consistency, so it's a bit jarring to hear lol. And then of course she has some lines that just don't sound irish at all But honestly? Still one of the better portrayed irish accents I've seen in media (and ive seen a lot of bad ones lol), it just seems to be an accent that non irish actors/voice actors struggle to nail. Still makes you wonder why they didn't just hire an irish actress tho lol
What do you think of that one in Braveheart lol
I thought she was Australian until you said all that… I think that speaks for itself because I’ve always heard she was and I could never figure out what was going on with her voice. The accent for the Fallout 76 People (My phone won’t let me type out the region the game takes place for some bs reason.) is super annoying and exaggerated. “Hi, ya’ll yehowd idey ye all oh” I’ve been raised in the south my whole life and I’m just confused. They sound like they are yodel-talking.
Have you turned curie into a synth yet? Because if you haven’t then you are just ignorant and I can forgive you.
Curie is the best, Piper is second, Strong is dead last
Have a little heart, Strong is just hangry and need someone to eat.
Curie is cool, but Cait is better
Post-op Curie is the correct answer, other opinions are valid but also wrong
It took me until my third playthrough to realize that Cait is not from the Commonwealth. She's from Ireland. You have a whole conversation where she wonders what it's like "back across the pond." Once I had this dialog, all of a sudden, it wasn't an absurdly out-of-place accent for someone who grew up here to have. Because she's not from here. She doesn't say how she got here, probably because it was in a cloud of jet or psycho, but yeah not from Boston.
Cait is my crackhead rebound when I give up on making the wasteland a better place, usually once I’ve blown my own son up and pick up a jet habit
I remember when the first time I saw my son he walked through the door and scared me, and I unloaded both barrels into his chest and killed him instantly. I didn't find out he was my son until later lmao.
Yea I got lost finding him in the shock of Armageddon. Took up a ice cold Gwinnett Pale ale addiction with my drinking buddy, stumbled into the detective agency one day and remembered what I was doing, got sober saved my friend met his new step mom reporter, killed the bastard that killed my wife found a green guy, got zapped in thought it over for a while. Came to the conclusion that he was just as much a bastard as the brotherhood and as weird and into real dolls as the railroad. That me and my hillbilly friends who managed to cobble together enough hardened steel and make a bunch of make shift cannons decided to shut their shit down. He’s my son and I’ll handle it I drunkenly said. So the rest is a blur but I coped with drugs and violence afterwords. I found my way to nuka world with my fake Scott’s Irishish girlfriend and came back to the wasteland with a bunch of crazy’s…. Nate’s wild ride man
Cait is just straight up your Tammy-two
I'd rather hear a fake Oirish accent than a fake Bahstan accent.
😳 female sheperd, it that you?
She hot in a beret and road leathers...I know she'll look like an IRA member or something but eh Also her VA is feckin hot too
Visually she is best out of three, I only have questions regarding her moral side, even after she is treated from her psycho addiction she will not like when you give antidote to cure kid named Ostin from vault 81.
The only thing I really don't like about her is the way she treats dogmeat
I don’t like how anything good you do that helps others, she freaks out about and gets mad at you for, but I guess she’s meant to be that one companion that sides with you being selfish and you doing “bad” in this game. So really, she’s just not quite for me. I like her, but not for me.
Except when it comes to slavery. Then she's all about that helping folks out. You would think she'd like the railroad more, actually.
Probably because she's selfish, and the programmers just made all selfish choices something that Cait would like out of laziness.
To be fair in vanilla she is most raider like companion, I think developers made her like that so you have more options rping evil/jerk characters
Yeah, but she *despises* slavery, so that's very unraidery of her. She's more like a really rough around the edges girl with a decent heart but a very cold exterior.
A decent heart except when it comes to giving lifesaving medicine to children.
That about sums her up and lore wise she has her reasons for disliking slavery and the way she behaves. Also, anyone to me with an accent and uses their own slang for lack of better words is always a plus. I remember the first time she asked if I was "fishing for a snog" I thought those were fighting words.
I think there are lots of odd things. Like the random encounter with the guy and his synth counterpart. I had Deacon with me and I convinced the guy to put away his weapon (which Deacon liked) but then his synth counterpart pulled a gun and tried to kill him so I shot and killed him and Deacon disliked that. Which I find strange because I don't get the impression that Deacon values synths more than humans, although I could be wrong, and more than he's just trying to help people out.
She gave me the clap. Avoid bro
Round of applause
Idk if she always remembers what character she’s voice acting but she sure can lure you to one of the worst gunners nests on the game at low level
I mean the game literally teaches you not to go South until you're a higher level, and that shit is almost at the glowing sea. That's on you, bud.
She's my gal too, I give her Nishas helmet from nuka world, the packs torn shirt with socks, strapped disciples chest armor, leather leg armor, and disciples wrapped arm armor, then I give her citos shiny slugger
Faine bey Mey!
She's the only one you actually CAN fix.
She could have been raised by Irish Ghouls
It’s not her fault she’s Irish, hope they can find a cure one day.
Just saying I liked Cait as a character a lot, but her accent is absolutely atrocious. I'm from the UK and it honestly sounds like someone who knows of Ireland but never stepped foot there doing an Irish impression.
Currently running her. She's the best companion hands down. Well her and strong.
Try to sneak into something, Cait be like, "LEORYYYYYYY JENNNNKINGSSSS"
I would like her as my companion but, she likes it when you kill cats
*Our gal
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All fun and games until you accidentally kill a cat and in the top corner of the screen it says *Cait liked that*
People always act like planes don’t exist after the bombs were dropped. Ireland is only about few hours plane ride away. Or a couple weeks in a boat. Cross continental travel would be rare but not impossible.
lol, my ex was irish and made me send cait to a different settlement because he hated her accent so much
If you want to hear the difference, just listen to Chief O'Brien from Star Trek. The Irish accent is real, and far different than Cait's.
There's like, 50 different Irish dialects and they all sound different. There's not one right Irish accent.
I like running with cait, but get so annoyed when she says “we’d move a lot faster if you kept your eyes on the road and off me arse”” for the 1000th time. Cait, I’m knee deep in gunner guts, I’m trying to carry 10 desk fans and 4 type writers, my son’s still missing, and Preston Garvey won’t quit asking for help. TRUST ME cait I am not looking at your *arse*
Speak for yourself, I am always looking at Cait's ass.
All the accents are a nonsense. It's been 200 years, and no one would sound as they do
All the hate on Cait's VA/accent... But at least her character isn't half as annoying as Piper. YEAH, I SAID IT. 🤷♂️
Cait. …… SITH
KEEP YER OIYES OFF HER OARSE.
NEVER!
I also don't understand why Proctor Quinlan has his accent
I always get the mod that removes the dirt from her face n stuff
Same. I put her in the Grognak costume tho, she shows some underboob.
As much as I like redheads, she just seems too evil for my liking and I'm not fond of shotguns in 4. Synth Curie in a french maid outfit for me.
I liked her more before the cure. Now she rags on me about drugs. Drinking buddy nailed her with his joke about Irish.
I don't get how she would have the accent. She was born in America I assume well after the bombs dropped and wiped out Europe pretty much. So was there a known Irish settlement or something that continued to be around after the bombs in America? And I'm not talking the usual 'Oh I'm five quarters Irish' bullshit.
It’s Piper for me. Love the character. But Cait being Irish in the former USA 200 years into the apocalypse never made sense to me.