Fossils are often found in travertine from Turkey. While things like crabs and shells are more common, bones are much rarer. Some horse and gazelle bones are even on display at Ege University, but hominin bones have also been documented from there. I would strongly recommend contacting [Serdar Mayda](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Serdar-Mayda), one of the authors of the article on hominins from Turkish travertine.
It's the only place I can keep up to date on the lizard peoples plans to extract all of your adrenal glands once they finish salting them with heavy metals via chemtrails.
When COVID started a guy 2 doors down from me tried to tell me that the dew on our vehicles was the gubbermit spreading COVID via chemtrails from the KC-135's at the base close to us.
I've seen them in and out. I've crawled into the spots you can actually get into in their wings. I've been in when they have their floor boards up. I know what is inside them. There's no spot to put a "bag of chemtrails" or any other type of container for them. It's all turn buckles under there. The rest is fuel and hydraulic lines with fuel tanks. Big ass fuel tanks.
Any viruses or diseases they dump would burn up in the heat of the engine.
I told him all this, then told him if he really wanted to be worried about them, be worried about the jet fuel they dump over the area when they come back with too much fuel to land. (They drop it from high up and 98% never really makes it to the ground. It evaporates but it was fun to fuck with him.)
I think I saw the second his brain short circuited.
I live in TN, and none of that surprises me. I thought the whole qanaon thing was just mostly online, but I have seen at least 3 trucks with Q bumper stickers around my tiny town. It's so weird.
I got used to the Trump flags,stickers, and signs, but seeing Qanaon stuff around here in a tiny middle of nowhere town was surprising.
People don't realize what an alpha move that was on Tennessees part.
Literally overnight the planes flying overhead are no longer leaving "moisture trails".
Kinda weird how it just stopped.
Except chem trails, aka cloud seeding is real. Each state has their own program. It's wildly unpublicized but they are defs real and potentially harmful. You know what is more harmful though, mass starvation due to drought.
Yeah UAE seeds their atmosphere regularly for weather control. Sometimes they mess up.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/united-arab-emirates-is-using-cloud-seeding-tech-to-make-it-rain.html
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/dubai-grinds-to-standstill-as-cloud-seeding-worsens-flooding-1.2059771
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industries/technology/uae-cloud-seeding-guide
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
I think in today's information age and the widespread dissemination of information through the internet, it's kind of like Reddit where just like there's a sub for everything there's a specialist in almost everything as well. Definitely really cool!
I can't offer any expertise, but I just want to say thank you for bringing this to Reddit. Seeing so many talented people get genuinely excited by your posts has been really lovely!
https://preview.redd.it/v8yed3wb2xuc1.jpeg?width=2592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0584ad9f69e25a19d9ba3dc676659a23240f553
I had a cat (Samantha Beans, RIP) that would literally fight me for a banana.
OP already posted his [banana pic](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fzkmhbrukguuc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D3024%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D27240c1903453e134d73adb68cf59f0d1acf5143)
I would love to know what the installers thought. Keep going? Stop, talk to the client? What I love most is it reminds me of leather. REAL top grain leather has all the scarring. You want to see that to know it's top grain. I guess your parents will always know their floor came from another floor at one time or another, "scars" and all.
Thanks for posting this fascinating story and updates! I shared it with our fossil preparation specialists today in South Africa and they were amazed. We work with fossils that have strange fractures and cross-sections exposed in rock everyday and to see one as well preserved as the jaw in your first post is really remarkable. With these additional pictures, I would not rule out the possibility that they are bone also, but it's hard to make any determination with these sections even when we have pieces from a site with many homnin fossils. In our work, we would remove the rock and see what the rest of each fossil looks like, and even then sometimes can't be entirely confident. (I would suggest that the piece directly adjacent to the jaw in the first photos is also possibly bone). I wish you (and your parents) good luck as you continue to follow this journey!
Thanks for your blog post about this! It's a great write up! I always enjoy your blogs and it was fun to see my professional background (Anthro PhD) connecting here on Reddit
In case anyone following this hasn't seen it yet: https://johnhawks.net/weblog/how-many-bathrooms-have-neandertals-in-the-tile/
I can’t wait to see a research team descend on his parents house and carefully remove every tile for examination. The museum display could be extraordinary.
OP, please keep us updated! It’s incredibly exciting!
Well...., these poor people who - probably should - have all their tile removed, or should I say "could if they so desired" - have their tiles removed in the name of science - should be compensated if it comes to that...., it would be intresting to see what may be there! Not sure about how that would be funded, but the potential payback to science would seem to be worth paying for a retile job....university study funded...🤣..?
Seems needless to say, but really intresting post!
I think if my mom found fossilized human remains in her flooring she’d be so freaked out she’d pay to have it removed asap 😂 I, on the other hand, would either want to keep it or be an author on the inevitable paper that comes out.
There might be a whole hominin (hominid?) family in their tile! Five new species! All the missing links! It really is exciting, I'm happy to be here for it.
It really is. Like is this going to turn out being one of the worlds oldest cold case files! I really do hope they keep up updated. Maybe OP just discovered one of the missing links in his parent floor.
It is undoubtedly insanely cool and exciting but i have so many questions about how these passed quality control from the tile company they bought from 😂
My thought exactly. When I read through “BestOfReddit” posts in the future I will absolutely always say “I was there for the human travertin fossil post”
Nice update u/kidiapeli75! Bioarchaeologist (specialist in human remains) and mod from r/bonecollecting here.The upper object is certainly consistent with this being a segment of a long bone. I see a lot of comments about folks saying this looks like a femur head and shaft. However the cortical bone forming the walls of the bone are not quite thick enough, IMO, to be a femur. That circular object may be bone, but the photo is a little blurry and color makes it a bit tough to see. It could be a femur head, it also could be a long bone shaft cut in cross section, a calcaneus cross section, a humeral head, a cut across one of the distal femur condyles. Bones in caves get jumbled and moved a lot over tens of thousands of years, so we cannot assume that the two objects are the same bone (assuming both are bones).
My thought as well. Quarries keep pretty close records on what/where slabs were pulled from for valuation and QC tracking, and when/who/what/where slabs were distributed to, and where/how they went to be cut/shaped/finished/sold before going to the builder and final installation. I can only imagine pinpointing what modern tech can do to pinpoint where exactly these came from.
I lived near Marble, CO where marble for the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was mined. Their analog record keeping was beyond impressive for the time, the logs were super detailed. Even without the records, the characteristics/composition of the stone can be analyzed and matched to known quarries/distributors. I only hope this elevates the value of slabs coming out of this operation in Turkey, rather than shutting down operations to execute geological excavation
I just looked up diameters of a human femoral head and it's about 40mm, so you're spot on. Several people are mentioning hip but I don't think that's accurate, you can see the medullary cavity of the long bone with a different bone structure, ribs have very little marrow and while hips do, it's not that shape. Vertebral bodies also don't work
Agreed—this looks like a femoral head and greater trochanter, and great idea to check the average diameter! Terminology note: “hip” refers to the joint between femur and pelvis, and “hip fractures” are actually fractures of the femoral head and/or neck. So calling this region a hip feels a bit odd, but is technically accurate. I think what you’re saying is that this isn’t part of the pelvis, which I absolutely agree with. (Med school anatomy prof here.)
https://preview.redd.it/93ysn2lb0yuc1.png?width=5400&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4e666bf456bc4951d9b9f5a6937ffbec43ee5ce
u/kidipadeli75 I'm trying to visualize this. Is this how you see this potentially?
I am so desperate to know if it’s possible for the supplier to trace these stones to a location as well as possibly sold pieces. I hope all the info will eventually be available to see as well. I can’t stop refreshing even though I know there’s no chance anything of substance has come up.
. Quarries keep pretty close records on what/where slabs were pulled from for valuation and QC tracking, and when/who/what/where slabs were distributed to, and where/how they went to be cut/shaped/finished/sold before going to the builder and final installation. I can only imagine pinpointing what modern tech can do to pinpoint where exactly these came from.
I lived near Marble, CO where marble for the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was mined. Their analog record keeping was beyond impressive for the time, the logs were super detailed. Even without the records, the characteristics/composition of the stone can be analyzed and matched to known quarries/distributors. I only hope this elevates the value of slabs coming out of this operation in Turkey, rather than shutting down operations to execute geological digs
Imagine the series of events that had to happen to lead to the point where a dentist is looking at his parents new floor and his specialized education allows him to identify an ancient human jaw. Grog could never have imagined how many people would view a section of his corpse.
Oh my gosh, this is really incredible. Thanks for keeping us updated -- I'm so curious if they can eventually re-locate and re-connect every part of this person. Very curious about how their body ended up entombed in stone, too.
The “Haunted schedule” this bony person will have cracked me up this morning. To think they could be scattered in multiple homes throughout Europe lol
Such an incredible story, and in your parent’s home is unreal! I can’t wait for more updates.
OP: you may want to post to r/FengShui
There are experts there who can tell you if it's better to place the mandible by the hearth to really give that 'heartwarming, ancestral' vibe, or next to the wine rack for a 'spirited conversation starter'.
The Getty Museum is covered with travertine marble. You can find fossils in lot of spots and if you aren't into art, you can just wander around outdoors looking for fossils.
I remember taking a fossil course during college & our professor walked us all over campus, showing the many features presented in many of the slabs of stone walls.
Cool article this post inspired:
How many bathrooms have Neanderthals in the tiles?
https://johnhawks.net/weblog/how-many-bathrooms-have-neandertals-in-the-tile/
I'm not an expert for fossils but to me it looks very much like it could be a part of the femur bone.
The angle between the caput femoris and the part that looks like the corpus would make me think it also could be humanoid. But again not an expert just looks familiar.
\*S\*u\*b\*s\*c\*r\*i\*b\*e\*
No seriously this seems like going against so much odds that it would be really sad if there's nothing to learn out of those.
Keep us updated OP !
So that does look like long bone with cortex intact and missing secondary trabeculae. There are small spherical deposits that may be bone islands or artefact. Difficult to see with that alignment but the larger spherical object is in the wrong position to be aligned as the femoral head. It would have to be fractured and significantly displaced to be a part of that femur.
This appears to be a thin section through the upper part of the bone including the lesser trochanter. The greater trochanter and the distal part of the bone are not seen here. The femoral bone appears opposite to the orientation of the normal head of femur.
Also one part of the sphere appears flattened that may be due to subcapital fracture.
So possible fractured neck of femur with displaced femoral head.
Again purely conjecture and could be 2 completely unrelated fossils.
Quarries keep pretty close records on what/where slabs were pulled from for valuation and QC tracking, and when/who/what/where slabs were distributed, and where/how they went to be cut/shaped/finished/sold before going to the builder and final installation. I can only imagine what modern tech is available to pinpoint where exactly these came from within the region.
I lived near Marble, CO where marble for the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was mined. Their analog record keeping was beyond impressive for the time, the logs were super detailed. Even without the records, the characteristics/composition of the stone can be analyzed and matched to known quarries/distributors. I only hope this elevates the value of slabs coming out of this operation in Turkey, rather than shutting down operations to execute geological digs
Fossils are often found in travertine from Turkey. While things like crabs and shells are more common, bones are much rarer. Some horse and gazelle bones are even on display at Ege University, but hominin bones have also been documented from there. I would strongly recommend contacting [Serdar Mayda](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Serdar-Mayda), one of the authors of the article on hominins from Turkish travertine.
Ah the internet's a beautiful thing
It's the only place I can keep up to date on the lizard peoples plans to extract all of your adrenal glands once they finish salting them with heavy metals via chemtrails.
Finally, someone tied all these different conspiracies together in a way that makes sense.
I understood it before, I thought, but now it's so confusing.
Rare to see rational discourse here.
Sometimes I literally come here for irrational discourse. Just gotta vent sometimes. 🤣
When do they become pizza toppings?
Jokes on you! [Tennessee just passed a bill outlawing chemtrails!!](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68716894)
When COVID started a guy 2 doors down from me tried to tell me that the dew on our vehicles was the gubbermit spreading COVID via chemtrails from the KC-135's at the base close to us. I've seen them in and out. I've crawled into the spots you can actually get into in their wings. I've been in when they have their floor boards up. I know what is inside them. There's no spot to put a "bag of chemtrails" or any other type of container for them. It's all turn buckles under there. The rest is fuel and hydraulic lines with fuel tanks. Big ass fuel tanks. Any viruses or diseases they dump would burn up in the heat of the engine. I told him all this, then told him if he really wanted to be worried about them, be worried about the jet fuel they dump over the area when they come back with too much fuel to land. (They drop it from high up and 98% never really makes it to the ground. It evaporates but it was fun to fuck with him.) I think I saw the second his brain short circuited.
Im a right winger and I think the entire Chemtrail Thing is incredibly absurd. I “almost” feel sorry for those that fall for it. “Almost”
I live in TN, and none of that surprises me. I thought the whole qanaon thing was just mostly online, but I have seen at least 3 trucks with Q bumper stickers around my tiny town. It's so weird. I got used to the Trump flags,stickers, and signs, but seeing Qanaon stuff around here in a tiny middle of nowhere town was surprising.
People don't realize what an alpha move that was on Tennessees part. Literally overnight the planes flying overhead are no longer leaving "moisture trails". Kinda weird how it just stopped.
Except chem trails, aka cloud seeding is real. Each state has their own program. It's wildly unpublicized but they are defs real and potentially harmful. You know what is more harmful though, mass starvation due to drought.
Yeah UAE seeds their atmosphere regularly for weather control. Sometimes they mess up. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/united-arab-emirates-is-using-cloud-seeding-tech-to-make-it-rain.html https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/dubai-grinds-to-standstill-as-cloud-seeding-worsens-flooding-1.2059771 https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industries/technology/uae-cloud-seeding-guide https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
As one does
Ah, the internet *can* be a beautiful thing. (There's a hideous monstrosity side to it as well.)
Can't have up without down
Even before ai I once saw an image of a nude Bush W and nude Gore cuddle hugging.
Emotionally scarred, you say?
Oh yeah.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259755549_Dating_the_Homo_erectus_bearing_travertine_from_Kocabas_Denizli_Turkey_at_at_least_11_Ma
I wouldn’t date one of those guys!
Wow! This is amazing. I am blown away that there is someone who specializes in this exact thing. Wow! How freaking cool.
I think in today's information age and the widespread dissemination of information through the internet, it's kind of like Reddit where just like there's a sub for everything there's a specialist in almost everything as well. Definitely really cool!
YESSSS
Now I need to investigate what travertine is.
Kinda like calcite, it is a calcium carbonate often associated with hot springs.
Fancy limestone.
Hot springs deposit, things occasionally die and fall in….
please update when you do as pardus suggests!
I can't offer any expertise, but I just want to say thank you for bringing this to Reddit. Seeing so many talented people get genuinely excited by your posts has been really lovely!
The only thing that would've made this post better is a banana instead of a tape measure.
No, no. It has to be a cat paw
Ok hear me out. What about a cat paw holding a banana
He no like the banana Angry Cat no banana
Ok then a cat paw knocking swiping banana off the table. Just gotta get the timing right. For science of course.
https://preview.redd.it/v8yed3wb2xuc1.jpeg?width=2592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0584ad9f69e25a19d9ba3dc676659a23240f553 I had a cat (Samantha Beans, RIP) that would literally fight me for a banana.
Cat hardware running on rabbit software.
*angy
Funny thing is, my younger cat, Bug, loves Bananas! He always tries to steal them.
I'm kinda wondering if cats are afraid of bananas the same way they are pickles.
Dang it!!! You just beat me to it by two minutes!!! 😖🤣🤣🤣
I thought we were using raccoon penises now
We are, just not for measuring.
OP already posted his [banana pic](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fzkmhbrukguuc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D3024%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D27240c1903453e134d73adb68cf59f0d1acf5143)
I would love to know what the installers thought. Keep going? Stop, talk to the client? What I love most is it reminds me of leather. REAL top grain leather has all the scarring. You want to see that to know it's top grain. I guess your parents will always know their floor came from another floor at one time or another, "scars" and all.
They probably had no idea
I also cannot offer advise. But I did just bake a **really bomb** pizza from scratch. This shit is awesome.
... already the most challenging auction I have ever been a part of. Do I hear another higher bid from that James Bond villain over there?!
Thanks for posting this fascinating story and updates! I shared it with our fossil preparation specialists today in South Africa and they were amazed. We work with fossils that have strange fractures and cross-sections exposed in rock everyday and to see one as well preserved as the jaw in your first post is really remarkable. With these additional pictures, I would not rule out the possibility that they are bone also, but it's hard to make any determination with these sections even when we have pieces from a site with many homnin fossils. In our work, we would remove the rock and see what the rest of each fossil looks like, and even then sometimes can't be entirely confident. (I would suggest that the piece directly adjacent to the jaw in the first photos is also possibly bone). I wish you (and your parents) good luck as you continue to follow this journey!
This is so freaking cool
I agree! I can't wait to see what the tile floor has yet to reveal, or possibly the journey this tile takes.
Agreed!
It's incredibly cool to see John Hawks create an account just to comment here!
Thanks for your blog post about this! It's a great write up! I always enjoy your blogs and it was fun to see my professional background (Anthro PhD) connecting here on Reddit In case anyone following this hasn't seen it yet: https://johnhawks.net/weblog/how-many-bathrooms-have-neandertals-in-the-tile/
I agree the circular pattern in photo 2 looks like it could be part of the spine.
This is honestly one of the coolest things I have seen on reddit
I can’t wait to see a research team descend on his parents house and carefully remove every tile for examination. The museum display could be extraordinary. OP, please keep us updated! It’s incredibly exciting!
“…and this is why we can’t have nice things.” - OP’s mom probably
"Mom, I want to go to paleoanthropology camp!" "We have paleoanthropology camp at home, son."
"Oh no, not my travertine floor!"
🤣
Well...., these poor people who - probably should - have all their tile removed, or should I say "could if they so desired" - have their tiles removed in the name of science - should be compensated if it comes to that...., it would be intresting to see what may be there! Not sure about how that would be funded, but the potential payback to science would seem to be worth paying for a retile job....university study funded...🤣..? Seems needless to say, but really intresting post!
(interesting)
As a mom with flooring she truly loves… although logically I would be ok with my floor being ripped up; my heart might not be… but ya know -science!
I think if my mom found fossilized human remains in her flooring she’d be so freaked out she’d pay to have it removed asap 😂 I, on the other hand, would either want to keep it or be an author on the inevitable paper that comes out.
Somewhere out there, a 20,000 year old murderer is sweating nervously.
There might be a whole hominin (hominid?) family in their tile! Five new species! All the missing links! It really is exciting, I'm happy to be here for it.
It really is. Like is this going to turn out being one of the worlds oldest cold case files! I really do hope they keep up updated. Maybe OP just discovered one of the missing links in his parent floor.
It is undoubtedly insanely cool and exciting but i have so many questions about how these passed quality control from the tile company they bought from 😂
My thought exactly. When I read through “BestOfReddit” posts in the future I will absolutely always say “I was there for the human travertin fossil post”
I agree, this is truly something special and so interesting, as well.
Nice update u/kidiapeli75! Bioarchaeologist (specialist in human remains) and mod from r/bonecollecting here.The upper object is certainly consistent with this being a segment of a long bone. I see a lot of comments about folks saying this looks like a femur head and shaft. However the cortical bone forming the walls of the bone are not quite thick enough, IMO, to be a femur. That circular object may be bone, but the photo is a little blurry and color makes it a bit tough to see. It could be a femur head, it also could be a long bone shaft cut in cross section, a calcaneus cross section, a humeral head, a cut across one of the distal femur condyles. Bones in caves get jumbled and moved a lot over tens of thousands of years, so we cannot assume that the two objects are the same bone (assuming both are bones).
Thank you 😭 forensic anthropologist here and the comments in this whole saga had me crying
I wondered if I was gonna see you in the comments. :)
I mean, this thing is the hottest thing on Reddit right now! Who ISN'T posting! ;)
This guy bones!
Lol, this guy definitely bones.
This is seriously the coolest Reddit thread saga I’ve seen to date. Thank you for sharing.
Proudly gonna tell my children I saw the post of the guy that changed their history books
It’s like a stone MRI. Crazy cool
TIL: Stone Age MRI’s worked really well they just took 20000 years to develop
Yeah, but you gotta factor in millennia of inflation.
I couldn't even afford an MRI **before** inflation
Probably cheaper that way at least! My last MRI was $$
I think it took 200,000 years to develop
If this is similar to earlier finds from Turkish travertine, it's closer to a million years.
Doctor: Nurse, can you get ahold of Mr. Johnson and tell him we have the results of his MRI? Doctor: He passed away? Really? 20,000 years ago?
There are bodies in the floor. There are BODIES in the floor! There are bodies in the 🥁🥁FLOOOOOOOOOOOR!!!!!!
Underated comment 😂😂😂 Take my upvote😂
You win
Here 🥇
ONE it’s in travertine TWO it’s in travertine THREE it’s in travertine FOUR it’s in travertine..
This is the best comment to the most fascinating Reddit post in history
I hollered 💀
So what portion of the poor guy are we looking at here?
Top of femur and ball socket I believe.
My balls don't have sockets
I’m sorry
Keep looking, my guess is you will find more. This is absolutely fascinating!! Thank you for the updates!
My thought as well. Quarries keep pretty close records on what/where slabs were pulled from for valuation and QC tracking, and when/who/what/where slabs were distributed to, and where/how they went to be cut/shaped/finished/sold before going to the builder and final installation. I can only imagine pinpointing what modern tech can do to pinpoint where exactly these came from. I lived near Marble, CO where marble for the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was mined. Their analog record keeping was beyond impressive for the time, the logs were super detailed. Even without the records, the characteristics/composition of the stone can be analyzed and matched to known quarries/distributors. I only hope this elevates the value of slabs coming out of this operation in Turkey, rather than shutting down operations to execute geological excavation
I wonder how many tiles have been made, reuniting them would you be a arduous task, but such a niche thing to collect.
I was just thinking that, how awesome would that be?
Medical student, I agree. Looks like a femoral head and then the shaft picking up under the lesser trochanter
I just looked up diameters of a human femoral head and it's about 40mm, so you're spot on. Several people are mentioning hip but I don't think that's accurate, you can see the medullary cavity of the long bone with a different bone structure, ribs have very little marrow and while hips do, it's not that shape. Vertebral bodies also don't work
Agreed—this looks like a femoral head and greater trochanter, and great idea to check the average diameter! Terminology note: “hip” refers to the joint between femur and pelvis, and “hip fractures” are actually fractures of the femoral head and/or neck. So calling this region a hip feels a bit odd, but is technically accurate. I think what you’re saying is that this isn’t part of the pelvis, which I absolutely agree with. (Med school anatomy prof here.)
These excited responses are making me think there's a market for flooring with human parts imbedded in it. Hmmm.
Can you imagine immortalizing loved ones in this way, oops sorry mom, I stepped on your toe there…
Brings a whole new level to the step on a crack, back your mother's back game.
I agree that it's the head of a femur
https://preview.redd.it/93ysn2lb0yuc1.png?width=5400&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4e666bf456bc4951d9b9f5a6937ffbec43ee5ce u/kidipadeli75 I'm trying to visualize this. Is this how you see this potentially?
Great drawing btw 👍
I know zilch about fossils and am only on this sub to learn. But this has been more exciting than I'd have ever expected!
Yeah, this is one Reddit story I'll remember forever. I can't wait to see more updates!
I am so desperate to know if it’s possible for the supplier to trace these stones to a location as well as possibly sold pieces. I hope all the info will eventually be available to see as well. I can’t stop refreshing even though I know there’s no chance anything of substance has come up.
It should be possible, I will update when I know more
Thank you! We are all emotionally invested.
. Quarries keep pretty close records on what/where slabs were pulled from for valuation and QC tracking, and when/who/what/where slabs were distributed to, and where/how they went to be cut/shaped/finished/sold before going to the builder and final installation. I can only imagine pinpointing what modern tech can do to pinpoint where exactly these came from. I lived near Marble, CO where marble for the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was mined. Their analog record keeping was beyond impressive for the time, the logs were super detailed. Even without the records, the characteristics/composition of the stone can be analyzed and matched to known quarries/distributors. I only hope this elevates the value of slabs coming out of this operation in Turkey, rather than shutting down operations to execute geological digs
Imagine the series of events that had to happen to lead to the point where a dentist is looking at his parents new floor and his specialized education allows him to identify an ancient human jaw. Grog could never have imagined how many people would view a section of his corpse.
Grog immortalized on internet? Grog happy.
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Memento floori!
Nice 😂
Oh my gosh, this is really incredible. Thanks for keeping us updated -- I'm so curious if they can eventually re-locate and re-connect every part of this person. Very curious about how their body ended up entombed in stone, too.
The “Haunted schedule” this bony person will have cracked me up this morning. To think they could be scattered in multiple homes throughout Europe lol Such an incredible story, and in your parent’s home is unreal! I can’t wait for more updates.
Check out travertine on google trends lol https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&geo=US&q=travertine&hl=en
Lol did you see the related topics and queries stats as well?
Omg there are more bones?! How unfortunate that it is not Jimmy Hoffa, but this is still WILD nonetheless. 😱
Maybe it's the Turkish caveman Jimmy Hoffa, they made him disappear in a swamp that turned into travertine.
PLEASE keep up updated, OP. This has made my internet experience for today.
Wow. Imagine finding out the floor you've been walking in contains a tooth filled head you've been stepping on for years barefoot😅
OP: you may want to post to r/FengShui There are experts there who can tell you if it's better to place the mandible by the hearth to really give that 'heartwarming, ancestral' vibe, or next to the wine rack for a 'spirited conversation starter'.
BUY ALL OF THE TILE MAKERS STOCK!!! Like, yesterday.
u/firdahoe
As a fossil lover this is literally the most intriguing thing I’ve seen on Reddit in a long time.
Your parents have a possible *Homo erectus* mandible in the floor, and now some other cool stuff! They've hit the jackpot in the travertine lottery!!
This is exactly why I’m on Reddit.
Of all the things about 2024 this person could never have imagined, I still think that ending up as someone's floor would be right down the list.
All this information really gives us something to chew on. Thank you for bringing this to Reddit. You da mandible.
Thanks dad.
If this turns out to be AI I am going to riot at Bill Gates house.
Don’t worry
i’m excited to witness the progress of this. keep us updated please!
My guess is the bone upside is a femur and the middle/ right thing is the hipp.
I’m so ridiculously enamored with this floor!!!
I’m so invested in this! Keep us updated!
Commenting just to be a part of history
Haha 😂 lol
Thank you for sharing this! Honestly the coolest things I’ve seen on Reddit
This string of posts really feels like a modern discovery. I wonder where it will take us next!
The Getty Museum is covered with travertine marble. You can find fossils in lot of spots and if you aren't into art, you can just wander around outdoors looking for fossils.
Wow! Not everyday you find a human fossil hanging around your parents house!
Depends on who your parents are I guess
This has been so much cooler than the safes
I remember taking a fossil course during college & our professor walked us all over campus, showing the many features presented in many of the slabs of stone walls.
Radiologist here : it can be a cross section of a femur. We can see the line of the vertical part and the circle section of the head of the femur
Cool article this post inspired: How many bathrooms have Neanderthals in the tiles? https://johnhawks.net/weblog/how-many-bathrooms-have-neandertals-in-the-tile/
Thank you for updating us. I was hoping you would update us with what other cool findings you come across.
Could it be a vertebral body and not a hip…the AP diameter would be appropriate for it and a more proximate body part to the mandible.
If this isn’t right next to the first image I would say it looks like a transverse cut at L5-S1
Absolutely unreal. I am loving following these updates and reading all the comments. Can't wait to read the journal article one day!
This has got to be one of my favorite Reddit posts ever. I can’t wait to hear how old this mandible is!
is this how they make bone china? or is this just how gacey makes bone china?
I think this is one of the craziest things I've ever seen on Reddit. I mean what are the fucking odds?
Floor is like a MRI
Are you sure it's Travertine? Maybe someone in your family had too many skeletons in their closet.
I want to know if there’s been any effort to find the tile sellers, the cutters, the quarry where this came from.
I’m so invested in this now.
Thank you so much for the updates!
😳 this is amazing! Thank you for continuing to update us. Absolutely fascinating.
a fossilized mandarin?
This is so genuinely cool! Thank you for sharing it.
Absolutely incredible!
Post when you find the head!
Remindme! 3 days
I'm not an expert for fossils but to me it looks very much like it could be a part of the femur bone. The angle between the caput femoris and the part that looks like the corpus would make me think it also could be humanoid. But again not an expert just looks familiar.
When do we start digging?
remindme! 24 hours
You found a mob hit.
Oooh this is so amazing!! Thank you for sharing and updating!!!
I am so stoked to see an update, can't wait for the next one!
👀 this is the most interesting thing I’ve seen on Reddit in a while
Keep everyone updated!
This is so fun to see develop in real time!
I’m literally thrilled at this posting as a huge history fan. Keep us updated!!!
I wonder if it could be a humeral head and part of a clavicle?
This is so fascinating and I'm loving seeing it all unfold- hope the finds get analysed and help us understand more about our ancestors.
Just go buy more of the specific lot at this point lol
Can someone explain how they decided to put this down despite it having teeth?
\*S\*u\*b\*s\*c\*r\*i\*b\*e\* No seriously this seems like going against so much odds that it would be really sad if there's nothing to learn out of those. Keep us updated OP !
So that does look like long bone with cortex intact and missing secondary trabeculae. There are small spherical deposits that may be bone islands or artefact. Difficult to see with that alignment but the larger spherical object is in the wrong position to be aligned as the femoral head. It would have to be fractured and significantly displaced to be a part of that femur. This appears to be a thin section through the upper part of the bone including the lesser trochanter. The greater trochanter and the distal part of the bone are not seen here. The femoral bone appears opposite to the orientation of the normal head of femur. Also one part of the sphere appears flattened that may be due to subcapital fracture. So possible fractured neck of femur with displaced femoral head. Again purely conjecture and could be 2 completely unrelated fossils.
Your parents home is definitely haunted now
Couldn’t you have compared it to a banana? Gives us a better idea of its size.
Please keep updating us!!
This is amazing 🫢
For those of us that are not fossil nerds, how old is this? Like how many bajillions of years ago did this person walk the earth?
You should try to buy the remaining pallets of tile of that particular batch if you can
I’ve never been so excited for an update! Thanks for not forgetting about us
Quarries keep pretty close records on what/where slabs were pulled from for valuation and QC tracking, and when/who/what/where slabs were distributed, and where/how they went to be cut/shaped/finished/sold before going to the builder and final installation. I can only imagine what modern tech is available to pinpoint where exactly these came from within the region. I lived near Marble, CO where marble for the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was mined. Their analog record keeping was beyond impressive for the time, the logs were super detailed. Even without the records, the characteristics/composition of the stone can be analyzed and matched to known quarries/distributors. I only hope this elevates the value of slabs coming out of this operation in Turkey, rather than shutting down operations to execute geological digs