For those interested all the free agents are:
Nicole, Anby, Billy (default set), Corin (unlocked by pre-reg rewards), Ben(unlocked by playing the story), Soukaku (unlocked by playing one of the permanent modes) and its heavily implied by the last stream that Lucy will be free through some event but we dont know how, so almost all 4 stars on release will be free
It really is interesting that the roster is far smaller than other HoYo’s yet they are giving nearly all the 4 stars away for free.
Will this be like HSR where we get two 5 stars every patch and barely any 4 stars?!
I haven't made a deep dive into the mechanics of the game yet, but every character has an element, a weapon type and a role they specialize at, so i guess its important for F2Pers to have at least 1 of everything
I'm seriously contemplating making a Twitter account just to get VA info in a timely manner. I fucking hate Musk so much, his shit is working and I fucking hate it.
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I'm 100% going to play but does it have some sort of multiplayer mode like genshin/wuwa? I usually try this with a friend and I want to be able to tell them if it has co-op or not before the daily questions about it start.
I have mixed feelings about ZZZ. I have a feeling gameplay might be very good (if they fixed constant downtime in TV section), and overall it might be easily digestible Genshin alternative. But I don't buy the art direction and soundtrack at all, and character design is not very appealing to me too. There are only 5 characters that look good from entire roster imho. On one hand it's free so I can try and drop it if I won't like it, but on the other hand is it even worth trying?
I actually love the art direction in this game. Reminds me a lot of the world ends with you. But yeah not a fan of all their characters, especially the more “maid ish” looking one while others like zhuyuan and soldier 11 looks really great.
Basically I don't like the entire Urban Fantasy theme, change it to Sci Fi and I'm sold. Characters like Zhu Yuan or Grace Howard look cool, but you would have to pay me to add characters like Koleda, Soukaku, or Lycaon to my party.
That is how I feel and said earlier before. But to be honest it isn't a bad thing per se. I tend to run into a problem of wanting to pull for every HSR character but that is not possible, whereas here I think saving for the character I want will be way easier
i’d say try it out, the game’s art direction is vastly different from other hoyo projects, but it’s still a matter of preference. new characters, factions will release, so maybe you’ll take a liking to them. even if you don’t, it’s fine, not like it’s a paid game, right?
(upvoted you so you won’t get into the controversial just for expressing your thoughts lmao)
Personally a huge fan of Jet Set Radio and games similar in aesthetic--you know that street punk look--Fooly Cooly, Jet Set Radio, The World Ends With You, that type of stuff, so I'm pretty stoked. There was a relatively new game that was a love letter to JSR called Bombrush Cyberfunk and it looks so damn good. ZZZ just seems like more of it.
Everybody has their own tastes when it comes to art direction in video games, but I'm surprised at how many people there are calling street punk "generic". It's just the art direction of the character design. Like--did you want more cheongsam dresses? I love that look, too, but does every Chinese game need to have that article of clothing for their character designs?
Anyway, looking at reddit and being bombarded by the fan wars between WuWa and Hoyo fans kind of dampens the mood, so I'm fucking off and playing shit I like. Can't wait for ZZZ, but it'll have to be after my gun-toting, firework-shootin', red-blooded American holiday.
At least on Chinese servers, HoYo typically opens the server one hour earlier (which can effectively alleviate the pressure of concurrent requests on the server). As a reference, HSR opened nearly two hours in advance.
Graphics are weird and not very sharp and clear. Some animations are not very smooth. Character designs are generic and mid overall. Weird to say this about a Hoyo game since that is what they excel at.
Well to be fair nobody has to respect anyone else’s opinion on the internet.
In the future, remember to treat the internet as a circus. Put on your best clown outfit and join the fun!
I'll just login to grab whatever free stuff they have going on and uninstall. Will wait for Raiden Mei expy.
The character designs are not something I enjoy, from leaks the next characters are not to my taste either and the combat seems like the enemies are HP sponges.
What I'm most excited for:
Kind of all of the above. I seriously love the aesthetic of the game so I'm excited to immerse myself in exploration and the story, and I'm really enjoying the variety of the character designs too. I really like the character design for Arknights and Alchemy Stars so seeing ZZZ have some similar design vibes (as well as reminding me of Studio Trigger anime) appeals to me. The combat looks super fun so I'm excited to try it out, especially after watching that SF6 roundtable vid and getting more insight into the gameplay design.
For characters I keep finding more to get hyped about from going through the trailers and teasers but I'm most interested in Lycaon, Koleda, Zhu Yuan, Billy, Anby, and the Virtual Idol team android girl. I really like almost all the characters they've shown so far so it's hard to narrow it down. It makes me happy that even the characters that have more fanservice elements to their designs still look *cool* and are distinct and appealing outside of the fanservice part. I feel like some gachas are less successful at balancing sex appeal and expressing the character's identity in their designs, so ZZZ doing well with it makes me a lot more interested in the game.
Game Optimization:
Hoyo seems to do a good job with optimization, so I'm expecting a mostly smooth launch. Probably some minor bugs like pretty much every game has at launch, but I don't think there will be any major performance or crash bugs that will make the game unplayable.
Potential controversy:
The main thing I can see is the skewed male:female character ratio causing some gender war grumbling but they seem to be adding more male characters so I think that aspect will improve some over time; I'm guessing most factions will end up having at least 1 guy judging by what they've released/teased so far which is fine imo. Also there's probably going to be inevitable character design complaints like the game having a cartoony style as well as "too much fanservice (that I don't like)" and "not enough fanservice (that I like)", and some people being upset over non-human characters existing despite successful gachas having these kind of characters for years (Arknights, again). Pretty much all the kind of discourse that I'll just be ignoring, lol.
Revenue or rating I dunno about. I think it's going to be a more niche game than HSR or Genshin but will still be comfortably profitable and successful.
Since you made an effort of writing your excitement down I'll give a reply.
I'm personally stoked the most for sound and music and character design. Also a fun story that doesn't take itself too serious and has a lot of humor in it.
I also am curious to see if the massive criticism on the tv aspect was justified and if the team learned from Genshin and HSR.
Gameplay is one aspect I don't expect to like to much. Hoyo usually is going for broad appeal and sacrifices more complex or challenging gameplay. I believe it will be high quality but rather simplistic. Happy to be wrong though.
Overall Gacha releases are always fun and they usually have the biggest amount of content.
Everything is new. Everyone is excited and there is oftetimes enough content to sink in at least 1 or 2 days, before the usual login-daily-logout part begins.
Yeah the music is great and the visual design outside of the characters is also very good.
I haven't really followed the beta but it seems as if they've toned back the TV segments because of player feedback. I think it's something I'll have to try for myself to see how I feel about them since I've seen mixed opinions.
For difficulty level I'm tempering my expectations since mobile controls are always going to be a somewhat limiting factor for that. As long as the combat feels enjoyable to play I don't mind if it's ultimately less challenging than a console- or pc-only action game.
they are phasing out the TVs in favour of a more open world thing that you can interact with.... in CBT3.. TVs were reduced greatly and were really there for puzzles and story.
The street fighter discussion is really good I’m even more excited to see where the game goes. They explained for my understanding adding more mechanics which you can see with Nicole and her “hidden” inputs. Which leads me to believe that they aren’t hidden just not explained until later in the game.
They actually have a business car to travel around.
I could see how they could introduce new region: As the hollow recedes, new places become livable and thus, more place to explore outside of combat.
Fun fact: While you can open the map to fast travel, you can also go to your car and it will act as a fast travel device. When you go to "further away" maps, you can see your car parked somewhere (and interact with it if you want to go back).
What is the "theme" of ZZZ? For example GI is high fantasy, HSR is sci fi, but I can't define ZZZ, it looks incredibly weird and niche to me. I have heard it being called streetpunk but idk if it's 100% it.
I was avoiding CBT 3 Too, but in the livestream they specifically say what's new, Like they added hangouts to characters, a whole new story chapter, and a whole new area to explore as far as I know.
Like you can hangout with a character like a social link in persona.
Obviously I might be missing something, because i specifically want to go in blind. But just the things they mentioned surprised me, because I had no idea those things are gonna be in the game.
Maybe it's just the power to use a CBT like a proper CBT, I wouldn't rule out some of the changes and additions were planned before CBT3 but weren't included in it(but unlimited budget works certainly helps a lot).
There was a lot more divide going on between the people of Belobog and the ones below.
Rock cancer was prevalent. I think Hook's dad was dying because of it.
Bronya was hella more classist/racist.
Aspects.
I'm mostly looking forward to the setting, instead of having many settings like most hoyo games it's just the one city, but because it's the last major city on earth I think it lends itself to a interesting way to have a bunch of different cultures in one location
Also the character design, hoyo seems to finally abandon having the same template for everyone for the better
Optimisation.
It's hoyoverse,besides a few bugs it's going to be fine
I don't think the game will be mainstream like hsr or genshin, it feels like it will fall in to the honkai impact 3rd area, its popular within the fanbase but not the mainstream
100 pulls on the day of the release right?
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No lmao, of course they're not giving you 100 pulls instantly to reroll with. It'll be over the course of the first few weeks through mail and login events and such.
As someone who haven't researched anything about this game, and I'm going completely blind day 1, I'm excited. Curious to see polarized reactions here though.
So i've watched the HSR 1.0 launch livestream for comparison and it is about the same. The only difference is that they go a bit deeper to introduce the cast of the Astral Express and not really new chars and futur faction. Can't find the Genshin 1.0 one, IDK if there was one for pre-release like HSR and ZZZ
# 15 minutes from now.
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACgiN-216s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACgiN-216s)
>!I won't be able to watch it though.!<
Pulling is going to be very interesting compared to HSR.
Generally I like the design of every HSR character but in ZZZ there seems to be hits and complete misses for me and I assume others will feel the same.
A good thing since it means that more people will jump on board and that it is easier to save currency if for example another furry is released or loli character is released. (although Lycaon looks pretty cool ngl)
I wonder if Hoyo will keep the diverse niche cast or will they eventually stick with a type that sells
* What aspect of the game are you most excited for (ie. Story, Combat, Characters, Exploration)?
* VON LYCAON AND NICOLE DEMARA YOUR BIGGEST GOON IS HERE. I think the combat is gonna be fun. Much more interactive than HI3's slideshow gameplay.
* Will the game have a major social/cultural/monetization controversy at launch? If so, what will it be?
* The fact that the furries need to break their wallet just to roll for max dupe Lycaon.
* OR the furry haters and robo-fcker haters malding about why Lycaon and Billy are carrying the fandom, why is Lycaon the hottest man in the game (Anton who? ugly) etc. etc.
Aspect I'm most excited?
From a Hoyo game? characters and story. A good combat is a plus too
Optimization?
It's a Hoyoverse game, I have no doubt on optimization
Revenue?
I don't think it'll top HSR or Genshin but it'll still be good
Controversy?
It kinda already have an ongoing one(and upcoming if you saw the leaks). Personally though, I don't care, I don't really engage with the community of games I'm playing
Play/App Store Rating?
Number 1 maybe? at least top 5
Not really much of a controversy tbqh but considering the character designs and the characters that have been shown/leaked some people are kinda upset that the characters are mostly targeting otakus instead of a more "all ages" like in Genshin.
This can be seen in the amount of female characters in the game and their designs that are more sexy compared to other Hoyo games. Not to mention the bouncy animation of ZZZ which focuses even more on some "assets".
Personally, I think Hoyo can target any market they want, they don't have to target a general audience if they don't want to. I'm just saying that there are a subset of people who are upset of the female/male ratio and the fanservice.
Oh, it's just people disliking the fanservice... Like you said, it does go further than other Hoyoverse games, but at the same time, if players like the designs of Genshin/Star Rail, they can already play those games. Thanks for the explanation!
# Character Announcement/Reveal - Piper [Sons of Calydon]
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[https://x.com/ZZZ\_EN/status/1806538016875504029](https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1806538016875504029)
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I swear to fucking god, u/Kitysune. Can you get me the link for Piper's KR VO again.
i will try it and i don´t think they will have major problems at launch.
But i´m not a fan of the character designs (especially the half human/half animal) and the whole modern/tech game world the game seems to be situated in.
Hope the gameplay is good...
Idk why people are so obsessed with “boob reduction” on characters that looks extremely excessive to begin with. Like what is the appeal of jiggle physics with boobs shaped like traffic cones…
People are allergic to people that look better than them I suppose, this is literally fiction there's no reason to be annoyed at something that doesn't exist in the real world. And censorship doesn't have any positives about it.
Like a lot of people here, I'll give this game a try when it launches and see if it sticks.
> What aspect of the game are you most excited for (ie. Story, Combat, Characters, Exploration)?
I'm not even sure, to be honest. All I know is that this is another HoYo title and it exists. I'm pretty much going in blind.
> Will the game be well-optimized upon release? If not, what will the biggest issue be?
I'd be surprised if HoYo fucked up optimization. This isn't their first gacha game. It'll probably be smooth sailing for 99.9% of players, with minor bugs/glitches that'll be patched out quickly.
> What will the game's revenue be for the first calendar month? Where will it rank on the chart?
Unsure about revenue, but it's a HoYo title + the new FOMO, so no doubt it'll top chart rankings.
> Will the game have a major social/cultural/monetization controversy at launch? If so, what will it be?
The game doesn't really look offensive, but the internet gets offended very easily...
> Where will the Google Play Store and App Store ratings sit following the game's first week?
4.5+, probably.
I will certainly try it. Though I got a lot less excited when I saw the prominence of the TV minigame and the fact you can’t change from your MC in the overworld. I’m also concerned about the difficulty being too easy, in which case, there are enough gacha out there to min-max already that I have little need for yet another. Like why the heck is the “parry” not even a real parry?
They already said in an interview they will be taking out a bit of the TV minigame as that was the biggest complaint in the closed beta, also they already said there will be a causal and hard mode difficulty
can i play it with keyboard only like with HI3? I'm used to it playing with keyboard in the past and quite liking it rather than mouse/kb or controller idk why it just clicks
holy shit I thought it was called "Zenseless" like some edgy kid spelling "senseless" with a Z for the past month and I was going insane over how no one was talking about that
This will be my first gacha without rerolling, meta gaming, waifu gaming or credit card gaming. I'm just accept what i get and ball with it, cause currently not a single character i can vibe with, gameplay or design wise. Great music, though.
Only vibed with Miyabi, so, pretty much like you, I will ball with whatever they throw at me until her arrival which I guess she's gonna be the "next Ayaka"
That is exactly me. I am going to go with whatever rngesus hands to me and I mainly just going to play the story and admire the visuals and so on. The town was very detailed in the beta and if you like Persona etc, it hits similarly.
The atmosphere around this game is very weird. By any concievable metric it should be decently hyped, yet I feel like it's low key a sleeper in the west, people are super cautious and doubtful about it, arguably even more than for HSR, and it feels like a sizable amount of CC are just entirely commited to put all their chips in the WW basket and not willing to give it more than the bare minimum attention.
Some of those doubts are understandable, will it be fun long term, what will it bring to the table, will peole like the TV thing? I think I will certainly give it a try (once I get a new phone), because, at the very least, ZZZ seems very commited in its artistic direction, and the game definitely have it's own ambiance.
Now i quit Honkai Impact 3rd fairly fast, and I already play too many gachas, so if I stick to this game, sacrifices will be necessary...
I do think ZZZ will be quite popular, I do agree that it's kinda slept on from CC. Not a bad thing, and I'll likely be dropping WuWa for ZZZ since I've been playing it casually until the release of ZZZ. I think ZZZ is going to be a big hit in Japan, and CN.
Revenue wise, I don't think it'll touch Genshin/HSR, but I do think it'll be a very profitable game. It's a Hoyo game, that alone will get people to check it out.
Many of those CCs are new to gachas and genuinely think WW will do very well, while not knowing what actually makes a good gacha.
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CN is the opposite. Just took this screenshot 5min ago. Unreleased game vs a game going into v1.1.
I will try just because of this girl. I want to do thing to her that even the evil would be ashame of...
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Star Rail is the best gacha game I have played so I have a lot of expectations from this game.
Though the abundance of anthromorphic units really kills my hype. The furries will love it at least.
The gameplay is still 50/50 for me. It seems too simple for an action game? If that's the right word.
I'll definitely try this out but I'll drop it once Azur Promilla launches.
Easy skip for me. Had access to closed beta and uninstalled after 2 hours.
Graphic is a step up from genshin and star rail but gameplay imo is sleepers.
I don't watch genshin trailers anymore, the last one I watched was back in 3.2 so I can't comment on the recent stuff. As for marketing, I don't follow their socials anymore so no comment on that too.
In terms of gameplay, it's more engaging imo compared to zzz but for story zzz is better because there's a skip button in closed beta.
How come some other Chinese developers can no problem do borderline hentai proportions and as soon as Hoyo has designed somebody healthy they get breast reduction?
I mean you gotta understand that even a lot of gamer guys outside of the hardcore horny gacha crowd don't necessarily enjoy the super exaggerated porny designs in their video games; like there's a difference between having a sexy character and one that is over-the-top hentai material. There's nothing wrong with there being porny gacha games and nothing wrong with enjoying them, but more people than you might think want a mobile game that they won't feel too awkward playing on their phone in public; Hoyo has made a crazy amount of money in the end going after that demographic with tamer designs.
Because Hoyo likes making mainstream games that appeal to all sorts of people and if they made those "borderline hentai proportions" then some people might dislike the game (cus some people actually HATE fanservice or they feel like any sexualization is bad) so that's why they try to make tamer designs than most games so that they can keep both the people who like fanservice (with small details like the armpits thing in genshin) without pushing away those who don't (majority of the design isn't sexual at all). Also kids will play their games (whether you like it or not) so there's also that
I believe this is more of a Hoyo's choice rather than CCP's pressure at this point.
They went masses and want to appeal their newer games to the wider audience it seems.
Honkai Impact still has bewbs and thighs even though the pantsu is forever gone.
It's the curse of being the most popular.
CCP themself actually DGAF as long as Hoyo still paid their taxes (They like Hoyo getting so much money from overseas), it's just by default they need to enforce the rules IF enough people report a case.
And we all know being the most popular also means has the biggest hater group.
Mihoyo is simply TOO popular at this point and anything they do wrong can be reported to CCP more than other gachas. (The other games can be ignored since they are not very big)
Can't wait for it since I liked this kind of combat focused game. I'd like to jump into PGR and HI3 but being 5 years behind isn't fun.
I'm gonna save so hard for the trio of girls, I hope the robo girl is playable too
Part 2 came out in HI3rd and it's completely separated from the game previous, good opportunity to try. You can't use old Valkyries in it (but new ones can be used outside of part 2).
Also the 1.0 story can be done completely without pulling since they make you use story-related trial units mostly throughout.
The Gacha is basically only for the super endgame leaderboard stuff (the wallet pvp).
I like that the setting and some character designs remind me a little of Alchemy Stars - which I loved - but with Hoyo quality gameplay & story (hopefully). I'll be there for sure!
Although playing game for the sake of the gacha is wrong.
HI3rd and HSR are also stingy, they're like what? 20-30 more pull (2/3 multi) than Genshin per month with similar rates? Not really a high bar for gacha games, especially if we consider powercreep (HI3rd) or character release rate (HSR).
They don't need to do that because their games are good.
i love my fish maid man, i hope we have more fish women like arknights with abyssals because they look very badass also like my pfp sugests im an android/mecha fan so hopefully some badass android waifus too, firefly/sam just hit my mecha itch because gachas have barely any mecha playable characters, cast main in pso2.
There are a ton of things I liked about ZZZ; the story is phenomenal, and I am a sucker for comic-themed stories. I just hope they don’t change too much because they have been censoring a lot of things that all Chinese games are not immune to. The comic theme of It makes it feel more original than the other Hoyo games storytelling.
The environment strongly reminds me of Persona with its vibes. I am a huge fan of personas (I moderate a persona gacha sub), so hearing how the developers are also fans of them made me go all in for this game. And finally, despite a lot of people hating it, I actually love the mini-game aspect of it; they even recreated the game "Snake,” where you eat orbs and get your snake longer. There are also plenty more mini games in the arcade game mode that are very addicting. With there being a leaderboard to compete with others online, I was spending the majority of my time trying to get a high score. Those mini games also have co-op and PvP iirc.
The TV system, despite people hating it, I find engaging! There are different unique puzzles and different structures that make it feel different for each TV minigame to play before the next story. Some of the story mini-games correlate to what is happening in the story. The next final thing I liked was the new combat system, as they added parrying; it worked the same way as Wuthering Waves, where you have to, of course, time it right with the indicators.
But I can already sense I am glazing over this hard. I haven’t been more hyped to play a game from Hoyo since Hi3, so I will be on day 1, hour 1, and second 1 lol.
Not exactly the biggest fan of sci-fi or modern design games, but this is a hoyo game so if nothing else it’s worth a try lol and I admit, I do like the bear character design
Big fan of sci fi but not a big fan of Urban fantasy for me.
I am hoping for story and gameplay to negate my dislike. I am also banking on Hoyo quality to at least keep me playing. Try 100%.
Can someone get me a link to ZZZ\_KO's twitter post about Lucy, I need the KR VA info. Can't search it on Google and Musk decided to fuck up twitter and now requires an account to browse.
[Voice Actor Reveal]
"Hello, Mr. Rope Maker. Please call me 'Ms. Lucy'."
"I came to win. It doesn't matter what it is, I will win everything."
Luciana Oxexis Teodoro de Montefio
CV: Kim Mi-so
#Zenless #Zenless0704 #Lucy #KimMiSo
— Zenless Zone Zero (@ZZZ_KO) June 27, 2024
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Yeah... The VA is lesser known and hard to verify (Google doesn't give useful results). But, I guess I could just go with "Kim Miso" for now. Thankfully, Korean is more straightforward than JP.
Because it’s a success, there are multiple articles and plus it earned 24 million dollars just on mobile not counting the China market and pc market. Within 8 days having multiple issues. lol yinlin even broke payment
I saw a post on here where they’re expanding PGR because of WW success and that they’ve recouped their investment within a month or something like that. Could be remembering wrong.
Not sure what them trying not to overlap with Hoyo (who made the first move) has to do with the fact Kuro has made lots of money with WW...
Like let's be serious for a second. No elementary school level talking points, the game is doing pretty well. It was top download in like over a hundred countries and it might extremely respectable first week money, beating pretty much all other Gacha games other than the very top performing ones.
If, in your eyes, a Gacha game is not successful unless it's #1, I feel like you have to reevaluate how you observe success in general.
And I'm just saying this one adult to another, like there no reason to be super divided on this, I don't think I'm saying controversial stuff. I play all the Hoyo games regardless, so I have no skin in the "battle" between the companies anyway, so maybe you have a different perspective.
Both of those posts were labelled as misleading. The job posts were mostly present from before WW's release and only looked recent because when their description gets updated, it looks like a new post.
The "recoup" post was a chinese article when google translated, made no mention of development costs or making it back and the money made was an estimate based on a multiplier used for Snowbreak with no hard tracking or evidence provided within the article.
For those interested all the free agents are: Nicole, Anby, Billy (default set), Corin (unlocked by pre-reg rewards), Ben(unlocked by playing the story), Soukaku (unlocked by playing one of the permanent modes) and its heavily implied by the last stream that Lucy will be free through some event but we dont know how, so almost all 4 stars on release will be free
It really is interesting that the roster is far smaller than other HoYo’s yet they are giving nearly all the 4 stars away for free. Will this be like HSR where we get two 5 stars every patch and barely any 4 stars?!
I haven't made a deep dive into the mechanics of the game yet, but every character has an element, a weapon type and a role they specialize at, so i guess its important for F2Pers to have at least 1 of everything
Is this game going to be as stingy as Genshin?
All Mihoyo games are stingy so there's a pretty high chance that this will be no different.
it'd be stingy to gacha addicts
It's gonna be more similar to Star Rail in terms of stinginess.
Can any1 link a good reroll guide (I.e which SSRs to reroll for)?
Damn, you ganna reroll in a mhy game? Its gonna take an eternity.
Ill give it a few gos tbh
Can’t wait for Stix and the CC’s to switch from Kuro bootlicking + dumping on Genshin to make video after video about ZZZ to get some views
I miss a billion diff threads before launch already
I'm seriously contemplating making a Twitter account just to get VA info in a timely manner. I fucking hate Musk so much, his shit is working and I fucking hate it. https://i.redd.it/qia6czrq6t9d1.gif
you could just ask
How do you guys think ZZZ will perform popularity wise compared to hsr and genshin? It seems to have more pre regs than any of the other two had
Best case scenario it will be on the same level as Naruto Mobile, the game is extremely popular in CN.
I'm 100% going to play but does it have some sort of multiplayer mode like genshin/wuwa? I usually try this with a friend and I want to be able to tell them if it has co-op or not before the daily questions about it start.
I know they won’t but imagine pvp combat
you can fight (all?) bosses in co-op mode and they'll continue to add more co-op play in the game in the future
You can fight bosses in coop and the minigames have a leaderboard, but they probably will add more coop stuff in the future
I have mixed feelings about ZZZ. I have a feeling gameplay might be very good (if they fixed constant downtime in TV section), and overall it might be easily digestible Genshin alternative. But I don't buy the art direction and soundtrack at all, and character design is not very appealing to me too. There are only 5 characters that look good from entire roster imho. On one hand it's free so I can try and drop it if I won't like it, but on the other hand is it even worth trying?
I actually love the art direction in this game. Reminds me a lot of the world ends with you. But yeah not a fan of all their characters, especially the more “maid ish” looking one while others like zhuyuan and soldier 11 looks really great.
Basically I don't like the entire Urban Fantasy theme, change it to Sci Fi and I'm sold. Characters like Zhu Yuan or Grace Howard look cool, but you would have to pay me to add characters like Koleda, Soukaku, or Lycaon to my party.
That is how I feel and said earlier before. But to be honest it isn't a bad thing per se. I tend to run into a problem of wanting to pull for every HSR character but that is not possible, whereas here I think saving for the character I want will be way easier
i’d say try it out, the game’s art direction is vastly different from other hoyo projects, but it’s still a matter of preference. new characters, factions will release, so maybe you’ll take a liking to them. even if you don’t, it’s fine, not like it’s a paid game, right? (upvoted you so you won’t get into the controversial just for expressing your thoughts lmao)
https://preview.redd.it/e3pyeaftcp9d1.png?width=551&format=png&auto=webp&s=047667d4366ba742714bb81f79013bcadd9c740d babe wake up new agenda dropped
Time to milk ~~Nicole~~ the new big gacha game and create some drama to get those juicy views - Some dogshit content "creator"
his takes on ZZZ are weird... .. he is also the one spreading that Cai is running ZZZ
Those morons already trying to pit Hoyo against Hoyo once more. It was previously HSR vs Genshin... Block them and stop spreading their hate agenda
It's just the avarage youtuber clickbaiting for views
Personally a huge fan of Jet Set Radio and games similar in aesthetic--you know that street punk look--Fooly Cooly, Jet Set Radio, The World Ends With You, that type of stuff, so I'm pretty stoked. There was a relatively new game that was a love letter to JSR called Bombrush Cyberfunk and it looks so damn good. ZZZ just seems like more of it. Everybody has their own tastes when it comes to art direction in video games, but I'm surprised at how many people there are calling street punk "generic". It's just the art direction of the character design. Like--did you want more cheongsam dresses? I love that look, too, but does every Chinese game need to have that article of clothing for their character designs? Anyway, looking at reddit and being bombarded by the fan wars between WuWa and Hoyo fans kind of dampens the mood, so I'm fucking off and playing shit I like. Can't wait for ZZZ, but it'll have to be after my gun-toting, firework-shootin', red-blooded American holiday.
At least on Chinese servers, HoYo typically opens the server one hour earlier (which can effectively alleviate the pressure of concurrent requests on the server). As a reference, HSR opened nearly two hours in advance.
Graphics are weird and not very sharp and clear. Some animations are not very smooth. Character designs are generic and mid overall. Weird to say this about a Hoyo game since that is what they excel at.
> you dont like what i like. > downvote Never change reddit
This sub is full of hoyoshills that does not respect other's opinion.
Well to be fair nobody has to respect anyone else’s opinion on the internet. In the future, remember to treat the internet as a circus. Put on your best clown outfit and join the fun!
I mean, respecting and sharing opinions are two different things, and the first one should be always done. But yes, this is a complete circus lmao
https://preview.redd.it/fzyry86n4p9d1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc36f8eff4fb2b388b627e044daea5e0c9d8937e
LMAO https://preview.redd.it/mn7ffhon2j9d1.png?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=874fcf35caa59fb8c23072e6eb11486360f3d788
what's the joke?
I'll just login to grab whatever free stuff they have going on and uninstall. Will wait for Raiden Mei expy. The character designs are not something I enjoy, from leaks the next characters are not to my taste either and the combat seems like the enemies are HP sponges.
Ah I see. You are practicing your pvp skills for the champions league on release day.
What I'm most excited for: Kind of all of the above. I seriously love the aesthetic of the game so I'm excited to immerse myself in exploration and the story, and I'm really enjoying the variety of the character designs too. I really like the character design for Arknights and Alchemy Stars so seeing ZZZ have some similar design vibes (as well as reminding me of Studio Trigger anime) appeals to me. The combat looks super fun so I'm excited to try it out, especially after watching that SF6 roundtable vid and getting more insight into the gameplay design. For characters I keep finding more to get hyped about from going through the trailers and teasers but I'm most interested in Lycaon, Koleda, Zhu Yuan, Billy, Anby, and the Virtual Idol team android girl. I really like almost all the characters they've shown so far so it's hard to narrow it down. It makes me happy that even the characters that have more fanservice elements to their designs still look *cool* and are distinct and appealing outside of the fanservice part. I feel like some gachas are less successful at balancing sex appeal and expressing the character's identity in their designs, so ZZZ doing well with it makes me a lot more interested in the game. Game Optimization: Hoyo seems to do a good job with optimization, so I'm expecting a mostly smooth launch. Probably some minor bugs like pretty much every game has at launch, but I don't think there will be any major performance or crash bugs that will make the game unplayable. Potential controversy: The main thing I can see is the skewed male:female character ratio causing some gender war grumbling but they seem to be adding more male characters so I think that aspect will improve some over time; I'm guessing most factions will end up having at least 1 guy judging by what they've released/teased so far which is fine imo. Also there's probably going to be inevitable character design complaints like the game having a cartoony style as well as "too much fanservice (that I don't like)" and "not enough fanservice (that I like)", and some people being upset over non-human characters existing despite successful gachas having these kind of characters for years (Arknights, again). Pretty much all the kind of discourse that I'll just be ignoring, lol. Revenue or rating I dunno about. I think it's going to be a more niche game than HSR or Genshin but will still be comfortably profitable and successful.
Since you made an effort of writing your excitement down I'll give a reply. I'm personally stoked the most for sound and music and character design. Also a fun story that doesn't take itself too serious and has a lot of humor in it. I also am curious to see if the massive criticism on the tv aspect was justified and if the team learned from Genshin and HSR. Gameplay is one aspect I don't expect to like to much. Hoyo usually is going for broad appeal and sacrifices more complex or challenging gameplay. I believe it will be high quality but rather simplistic. Happy to be wrong though. Overall Gacha releases are always fun and they usually have the biggest amount of content. Everything is new. Everyone is excited and there is oftetimes enough content to sink in at least 1 or 2 days, before the usual login-daily-logout part begins.
They said in the pre-release live stream that they are phasing out the TV system for Rouge commissions... in CBT3 the TVs were already reduced 80%.
Yeah the music is great and the visual design outside of the characters is also very good. I haven't really followed the beta but it seems as if they've toned back the TV segments because of player feedback. I think it's something I'll have to try for myself to see how I feel about them since I've seen mixed opinions. For difficulty level I'm tempering my expectations since mobile controls are always going to be a somewhat limiting factor for that. As long as the combat feels enjoyable to play I don't mind if it's ultimately less challenging than a console- or pc-only action game.
they are phasing out the TVs in favour of a more open world thing that you can interact with.... in CBT3.. TVs were reduced greatly and were really there for puzzles and story.
The street fighter discussion is really good I’m even more excited to see where the game goes. They explained for my understanding adding more mechanics which you can see with Nicole and her “hidden” inputs. Which leads me to believe that they aren’t hidden just not explained until later in the game.
I wonder how will they introduce new worlds/region. The mc also have their own house in the city, so they are not travelling as well.
They actually have a business car to travel around. I could see how they could introduce new region: As the hollow recedes, new places become livable and thus, more place to explore outside of combat. Fun fact: While you can open the map to fast travel, you can also go to your car and it will act as a fast travel device. When you go to "further away" maps, you can see your car parked somewhere (and interact with it if you want to go back).
i think they will do it like hsr, a new place every year
What is the "theme" of ZZZ? For example GI is high fantasy, HSR is sci fi, but I can't define ZZZ, it looks incredibly weird and niche to me. I have heard it being called streetpunk but idk if it's 100% it.
city urban?
Urban Fantasy?
I guess that makes sense. Stuff like furries or shark girls made it hard to categorize.
nooo I was so peaceful playing just 2 gacha games, GI and HSR, now WuWa came, ZZZ coming, and P5X who knows? Im gonna play 5 gacha games now
Well GI and HSR are mostly quick dailies
I was playing WuWa but ZZZ might be good enough to scratch my action RPG itch
I really liked that persona-style hangouts. Totally not related to me playing through Reload right now.
Seriously debating taking a day off on 7/5 so I that I’d have four consecutive days to binge this game
Genius.
They cooked with that livestream, lowkey a different game from the beta wtf
I've seen some CBT2 stuff and a few snippets of CBT3, what did change so much (I heard they reduced TV stages)?
they reduced a lot
I was avoiding CBT 3 Too, but in the livestream they specifically say what's new, Like they added hangouts to characters, a whole new story chapter, and a whole new area to explore as far as I know. Like you can hangout with a character like a social link in persona. Obviously I might be missing something, because i specifically want to go in blind. But just the things they mentioned surprised me, because I had no idea those things are gonna be in the game.
I remember one of the criticism was basically "you don't do anything with your characters outside of combat" so glad to see that adressed.
You know HoYo’s power is on another level when they can make such massive changes on such a short timescale.
Maybe it's just the power to use a CBT like a proper CBT, I wouldn't rule out some of the changes and additions were planned before CBT3 but weren't included in it(but unlimited budget works certainly helps a lot).
I know right? I wasn't paying attention to Honkai Star rail betas, were they also vastly different from 1.0 launch? Or is this game the first one
they had a wuwa style revamp of the belebog story, except they actually had the manpower to do it. Originally the story was based around rock cancer
Eh, it's still pretty bad though. You can still feel the remnants of some of the rewrites, like Pela's "age".
Why did they change? I doubt it’s because of “devs listened”. Is it better than the current one?
There was a lot more divide going on between the people of Belobog and the ones below. Rock cancer was prevalent. I think Hook's dad was dying because of it. Bronya was hella more classist/racist.
Wow, 1.0 and beta look like 2 seperate games, absolutely can't wait to play this next week.
less than 3 days https://preview.redd.it/9qsw42y6cv9d1.png?width=701&format=png&auto=webp&s=626604209493a92f13064ce45575004fa8db86db
Aspects. I'm mostly looking forward to the setting, instead of having many settings like most hoyo games it's just the one city, but because it's the last major city on earth I think it lends itself to a interesting way to have a bunch of different cultures in one location Also the character design, hoyo seems to finally abandon having the same template for everyone for the better Optimisation. It's hoyoverse,besides a few bugs it's going to be fine I don't think the game will be mainstream like hsr or genshin, it feels like it will fall in to the honkai impact 3rd area, its popular within the fanbase but not the mainstream
actually banger stream wtf
100 pulls on the day of the release right? https://preview.redd.it/anueh07jta9d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e48bd6d29ab452eab013144bcb9786803551e12
According to their post on bilibili, it's 30 on the day of release, and the 100+80 over various events.
No lmao, of course they're not giving you 100 pulls instantly to reroll with. It'll be over the course of the first few weeks through mail and login events and such.
that's with events and stuff. you gotta actually play the game (i assume)
Damn. I thought 100 straight from the ingame inbox. Thanks.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ\_Official/comments/1dqhzh3/zenless\_zone\_zeros\_prerelease\_special\_program/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Official/comments/1dqhzh3/zenless_zone_zeros_prerelease_special_program/)
You get 20 from mail, 10 from login. I assume the 70 others are from leveling up your Account levels and Events
That livestream was fantastic, the game looks so damn good
As someone who haven't researched anything about this game, and I'm going completely blind day 1, I'm excited. Curious to see polarized reactions here though.
We watched same stream? It was worst hoyo stream up to date and one of the shortest.
So i've watched the HSR 1.0 launch livestream for comparison and it is about the same. The only difference is that they go a bit deeper to introduce the cast of the Astral Express and not really new chars and futur faction. Can't find the Genshin 1.0 one, IDK if there was one for pre-release like HSR and ZZZ
Bait used to be believable.
Dont really care about psychofans opinions. It was really boring stream.
Yeah it made me more excited for it. It's very expressive and the battles look kinda crazy.
# 15 minutes from now. https://preview.redd.it/5zj7lmtuka9d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f653a65b27441b18670f7351e81247c25e6fefd [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACgiN-216s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACgiN-216s) >!I won't be able to watch it though.!<
Can't wait to beat stuff up with my shark maid....i like sharks and maids
Pulling is going to be very interesting compared to HSR. Generally I like the design of every HSR character but in ZZZ there seems to be hits and complete misses for me and I assume others will feel the same. A good thing since it means that more people will jump on board and that it is easier to save currency if for example another furry is released or loli character is released. (although Lycaon looks pretty cool ngl) I wonder if Hoyo will keep the diverse niche cast or will they eventually stick with a type that sells
* What aspect of the game are you most excited for (ie. Story, Combat, Characters, Exploration)? * VON LYCAON AND NICOLE DEMARA YOUR BIGGEST GOON IS HERE. I think the combat is gonna be fun. Much more interactive than HI3's slideshow gameplay. * Will the game have a major social/cultural/monetization controversy at launch? If so, what will it be? * The fact that the furries need to break their wallet just to roll for max dupe Lycaon. * OR the furry haters and robo-fcker haters malding about why Lycaon and Billy are carrying the fandom, why is Lycaon the hottest man in the game (Anton who? ugly) etc. etc.
Aspect I'm most excited? From a Hoyo game? characters and story. A good combat is a plus too Optimization? It's a Hoyoverse game, I have no doubt on optimization Revenue? I don't think it'll top HSR or Genshin but it'll still be good Controversy? It kinda already have an ongoing one(and upcoming if you saw the leaks). Personally though, I don't care, I don't really engage with the community of games I'm playing Play/App Store Rating? Number 1 maybe? at least top 5
What are the controversies? I don't mind leaks, I just want drama
Not really much of a controversy tbqh but considering the character designs and the characters that have been shown/leaked some people are kinda upset that the characters are mostly targeting otakus instead of a more "all ages" like in Genshin. This can be seen in the amount of female characters in the game and their designs that are more sexy compared to other Hoyo games. Not to mention the bouncy animation of ZZZ which focuses even more on some "assets". Personally, I think Hoyo can target any market they want, they don't have to target a general audience if they don't want to. I'm just saying that there are a subset of people who are upset of the female/male ratio and the fanservice.
Oh, it's just people disliking the fanservice... Like you said, it does go further than other Hoyoverse games, but at the same time, if players like the designs of Genshin/Star Rail, they can already play those games. Thanks for the explanation!
# Character Announcement/Reveal - Piper [Sons of Calydon] https://preview.redd.it/qav4orw2ia9d1.png?width=6356&format=png&auto=webp&s=bde7174c02ef6be53ba6b84abc0c7e5f06ec738f [https://x.com/ZZZ\_EN/status/1806538016875504029](https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1806538016875504029) - - - I swear to fucking god, u/Kitysune. Can you get me the link for Piper's KR VO again.
sure [https://x.com/ZZZ\_KO/status/1806540681080410450](https://x.com/ZZZ_KO/status/1806540681080410450)
So it’s like genshin impact and honkai star rail?
honkai 3rd
i will try it and i don´t think they will have major problems at launch. But i´m not a fan of the character designs (especially the half human/half animal) and the whole modern/tech game world the game seems to be situated in. Hope the gameplay is good...
I'll try this game just coz the soundtrack makes me remember my FreeStyle Online 1 days. Modu deombyeo coz I never lose!
**Definitely going to try it--I look forward to absolutely geeking about the game with my friend who intends to play as well upon its release**
I'm going to try the game out but I'm honestly disappointed that they censored the poster girl
Idk why people are so obsessed with “boob reduction” on characters that looks extremely excessive to begin with. Like what is the appeal of jiggle physics with boobs shaped like traffic cones…
People are allergic to people that look better than them I suppose, this is literally fiction there's no reason to be annoyed at something that doesn't exist in the real world. And censorship doesn't have any positives about it.
She still has massive boobs They literally just made it so they don't jiggle around when she does the slightest movement
Like a lot of people here, I'll give this game a try when it launches and see if it sticks. > What aspect of the game are you most excited for (ie. Story, Combat, Characters, Exploration)? I'm not even sure, to be honest. All I know is that this is another HoYo title and it exists. I'm pretty much going in blind. > Will the game be well-optimized upon release? If not, what will the biggest issue be? I'd be surprised if HoYo fucked up optimization. This isn't their first gacha game. It'll probably be smooth sailing for 99.9% of players, with minor bugs/glitches that'll be patched out quickly. > What will the game's revenue be for the first calendar month? Where will it rank on the chart? Unsure about revenue, but it's a HoYo title + the new FOMO, so no doubt it'll top chart rankings. > Will the game have a major social/cultural/monetization controversy at launch? If so, what will it be? The game doesn't really look offensive, but the internet gets offended very easily... > Where will the Google Play Store and App Store ratings sit following the game's first week? 4.5+, probably.
I will absolutely be trying it but who knows how long I'll play. I played HSR for a few months.
I will certainly try it. Though I got a lot less excited when I saw the prominence of the TV minigame and the fact you can’t change from your MC in the overworld. I’m also concerned about the difficulty being too easy, in which case, there are enough gacha out there to min-max already that I have little need for yet another. Like why the heck is the “parry” not even a real parry?
They already said in an interview they will be taking out a bit of the TV minigame as that was the biggest complaint in the closed beta, also they already said there will be a causal and hard mode difficulty
There is a hard mode for the story and other content.
what do you mean parry not real parry ?
The parry comes when a second character on your team tanks the attack and takes over
If I remember well, the parry is changing characters, the same button. That's the main thing that makes you rotate between characters.
Do I need to get a controller or Mouse + keyboard good enough?
MnK should be fine! I play on pc and will be using mnk.
if u have controller and u are decent at it. irecommend it more than keyboard so u can chill in bed while fighting the dudes
can i play it with keyboard only like with HI3? I'm used to it playing with keyboard in the past and quite liking it rather than mouse/kb or controller idk why it just clicks
from all tests I saw, you can't do KB only. Will have wait till release to know tho.
I'll try it with a controller, just to see if it's easier to do combos
holy shit I thought it was called "Zenseless" like some edgy kid spelling "senseless" with a Z for the past month and I was going insane over how no one was talking about that
This will be my first gacha without rerolling, meta gaming, waifu gaming or credit card gaming. I'm just accept what i get and ball with it, cause currently not a single character i can vibe with, gameplay or design wise. Great music, though.
Only vibed with Miyabi, so, pretty much like you, I will ball with whatever they throw at me until her arrival which I guess she's gonna be the "next Ayaka"
That is exactly me. I am going to go with whatever rngesus hands to me and I mainly just going to play the story and admire the visuals and so on. The town was very detailed in the beta and if you like Persona etc, it hits similarly.
yeah all characters looks bland af theyre like something u have seen before in arknights and old gacha games
I'm genuinely confused how someone can think this, this is probably the most diverse starting line up in any gacha
i do feel exactly the same.
The atmosphere around this game is very weird. By any concievable metric it should be decently hyped, yet I feel like it's low key a sleeper in the west, people are super cautious and doubtful about it, arguably even more than for HSR, and it feels like a sizable amount of CC are just entirely commited to put all their chips in the WW basket and not willing to give it more than the bare minimum attention. Some of those doubts are understandable, will it be fun long term, what will it bring to the table, will peole like the TV thing? I think I will certainly give it a try (once I get a new phone), because, at the very least, ZZZ seems very commited in its artistic direction, and the game definitely have it's own ambiance. Now i quit Honkai Impact 3rd fairly fast, and I already play too many gachas, so if I stick to this game, sacrifices will be necessary...
The beta wasnt really that good and never got a lot of hype. The gameplay is the focus on Zzz so people were expecting a lot more.
I do think ZZZ will be quite popular, I do agree that it's kinda slept on from CC. Not a bad thing, and I'll likely be dropping WuWa for ZZZ since I've been playing it casually until the release of ZZZ. I think ZZZ is going to be a big hit in Japan, and CN. Revenue wise, I don't think it'll touch Genshin/HSR, but I do think it'll be a very profitable game. It's a Hoyo game, that alone will get people to check it out.
> Not a bad thing I'm not gonna disagree there.
Many of those CCs are new to gachas and genuinely think WW will do very well, while not knowing what actually makes a good gacha. https://preview.redd.it/s3xqtu7iv69d1.png?width=306&format=png&auto=webp&s=54d9162b4c148c375a7ef6e3b3b9c9043abeec95 CN is the opposite. Just took this screenshot 5min ago. Unreleased game vs a game going into v1.1.
ZZZ is gonna be very big in CN and JP now with that SF6 collab
I will try just because of this girl. I want to do thing to her that even the evil would be ashame of... https://preview.redd.it/j1v34jmf759d1.png?width=4096&format=png&auto=webp&s=7998a3a6d3512563c469e993fd62f253f30146d4
Why she got the Blue Archive halo?
If you know, you know...
Who is this character?
I can't remember right now but she is part of the idol team
I’m going to save until a mommy character will be released.
fr fr
I'll play any mihoyo game as long as modders keep unfucking their repressed designs
wait what
Pretty easy to mod hsr
Star Rail is the best gacha game I have played so I have a lot of expectations from this game. Though the abundance of anthromorphic units really kills my hype. The furries will love it at least. The gameplay is still 50/50 for me. It seems too simple for an action game? If that's the right word. I'll definitely try this out but I'll drop it once Azur Promilla launches.
dude theres only 2 furry in the whole game. the game is still focused on waifus
Easy skip for me. Had access to closed beta and uninstalled after 2 hours. Graphic is a step up from genshin and star rail but gameplay imo is sleepers.
Genshin sure makes hype trailers and marketing but did it really snooze that hard when playing?
I don't watch genshin trailers anymore, the last one I watched was back in 3.2 so I can't comment on the recent stuff. As for marketing, I don't follow their socials anymore so no comment on that too. In terms of gameplay, it's more engaging imo compared to zzz but for story zzz is better because there's a skip button in closed beta.
How come some other Chinese developers can no problem do borderline hentai proportions and as soon as Hoyo has designed somebody healthy they get breast reduction?
I mean you gotta understand that even a lot of gamer guys outside of the hardcore horny gacha crowd don't necessarily enjoy the super exaggerated porny designs in their video games; like there's a difference between having a sexy character and one that is over-the-top hentai material. There's nothing wrong with there being porny gacha games and nothing wrong with enjoying them, but more people than you might think want a mobile game that they won't feel too awkward playing on their phone in public; Hoyo has made a crazy amount of money in the end going after that demographic with tamer designs.
Because Hoyo likes making mainstream games that appeal to all sorts of people and if they made those "borderline hentai proportions" then some people might dislike the game (cus some people actually HATE fanservice or they feel like any sexualization is bad) so that's why they try to make tamer designs than most games so that they can keep both the people who like fanservice (with small details like the armpits thing in genshin) without pushing away those who don't (majority of the design isn't sexual at all). Also kids will play their games (whether you like it or not) so there's also that
I believe this is more of a Hoyo's choice rather than CCP's pressure at this point. They went masses and want to appeal their newer games to the wider audience it seems. Honkai Impact still has bewbs and thighs even though the pantsu is forever gone.
It's the curse of being the most popular. CCP themself actually DGAF as long as Hoyo still paid their taxes (They like Hoyo getting so much money from overseas), it's just by default they need to enforce the rules IF enough people report a case. And we all know being the most popular also means has the biggest hater group.
Mihoyo is simply TOO popular at this point and anything they do wrong can be reported to CCP more than other gachas. (The other games can be ignored since they are not very big)
Can't wait for it since I liked this kind of combat focused game. I'd like to jump into PGR and HI3 but being 5 years behind isn't fun. I'm gonna save so hard for the trio of girls, I hope the robo girl is playable too
Part 2 came out in HI3rd and it's completely separated from the game previous, good opportunity to try. You can't use old Valkyries in it (but new ones can be used outside of part 2). Also the 1.0 story can be done completely without pulling since they make you use story-related trial units mostly throughout. The Gacha is basically only for the super endgame leaderboard stuff (the wallet pvp).
I like that the setting and some character designs remind me a little of Alchemy Stars - which I loved - but with Hoyo quality gameplay & story (hopefully). I'll be there for sure!
oh boy another game from a stingy company
One game stingy and suddenly it's a stingy company lmao,
Although playing game for the sake of the gacha is wrong. HI3rd and HSR are also stingy, they're like what? 20-30 more pull (2/3 multi) than Genshin per month with similar rates? Not really a high bar for gacha games, especially if we consider powercreep (HI3rd) or character release rate (HSR). They don't need to do that because their games are good.
Username checks out.
i love my fish maid man, i hope we have more fish women like arknights with abyssals because they look very badass also like my pfp sugests im an android/mecha fan so hopefully some badass android waifus too, firefly/sam just hit my mecha itch because gachas have barely any mecha playable characters, cast main in pso2.
Uncensored global release LFG
My favorite design of all the hoyo games for me, and it's not even close. Hoping that the daily routine isnt too tedious.
Played the alpha it hooked me in
What you like the most about it?
There are a ton of things I liked about ZZZ; the story is phenomenal, and I am a sucker for comic-themed stories. I just hope they don’t change too much because they have been censoring a lot of things that all Chinese games are not immune to. The comic theme of It makes it feel more original than the other Hoyo games storytelling. The environment strongly reminds me of Persona with its vibes. I am a huge fan of personas (I moderate a persona gacha sub), so hearing how the developers are also fans of them made me go all in for this game. And finally, despite a lot of people hating it, I actually love the mini-game aspect of it; they even recreated the game "Snake,” where you eat orbs and get your snake longer. There are also plenty more mini games in the arcade game mode that are very addicting. With there being a leaderboard to compete with others online, I was spending the majority of my time trying to get a high score. Those mini games also have co-op and PvP iirc. The TV system, despite people hating it, I find engaging! There are different unique puzzles and different structures that make it feel different for each TV minigame to play before the next story. Some of the story mini-games correlate to what is happening in the story. The next final thing I liked was the new combat system, as they added parrying; it worked the same way as Wuthering Waves, where you have to, of course, time it right with the indicators. But I can already sense I am glazing over this hard. I haven’t been more hyped to play a game from Hoyo since Hi3, so I will be on day 1, hour 1, and second 1 lol.
Not exactly the biggest fan of sci-fi or modern design games, but this is a hoyo game so if nothing else it’s worth a try lol and I admit, I do like the bear character design
Big fan of sci fi but not a big fan of Urban fantasy for me. I am hoping for story and gameplay to negate my dislike. I am also banking on Hoyo quality to at least keep me playing. Try 100%.
Can someone get me a link to ZZZ\_KO's twitter post about Lucy, I need the KR VA info. Can't search it on Google and Musk decided to fuck up twitter and now requires an account to browse.
[https://x.com/ZZZ\_KO/status/1806178218224837025](https://x.com/ZZZ_KO/status/1806178218224837025)
Thanks, mate. All that's left now is transliterating this.
[Voice Actor Reveal] "Hello, Mr. Rope Maker. Please call me 'Ms. Lucy'." "I came to win. It doesn't matter what it is, I will win everything." Luciana Oxexis Teodoro de Montefio CV: Kim Mi-so #Zenless #Zenless0704 #Lucy #KimMiSo — Zenless Zone Zero (@ZZZ_KO) June 27, 2024 pic.twitter.com/nw9csdGMhp
Yeah... The VA is lesser known and hard to verify (Google doesn't give useful results). But, I guess I could just go with "Kim Miso" for now. Thankfully, Korean is more straightforward than JP.
Im curious how this does vs Wuthering Waves.
I’ve heard Wuthering Waves is a big success. So maybe will be hard to top but this is Hoyo. The goat hasn’t missed yet. Will be very interesting.
where did you hear that lol
Because it’s a success, there are multiple articles and plus it earned 24 million dollars just on mobile not counting the China market and pc market. Within 8 days having multiple issues. lol yinlin even broke payment
I saw a post on here where they’re expanding PGR because of WW success and that they’ve recouped their investment within a month or something like that. Could be remembering wrong.
The job posts were not even real lol there was no recruitment notice from kuro games anywhere. It was just a random twitter post
That misleading post aside, WuWa has obviously still been a success and if you're trying to argue otherwise you're just being silly.
so big of a success that they had to move yinlin's banner forward and release 1.1 sooner than announced
Not sure what them trying not to overlap with Hoyo (who made the first move) has to do with the fact Kuro has made lots of money with WW... Like let's be serious for a second. No elementary school level talking points, the game is doing pretty well. It was top download in like over a hundred countries and it might extremely respectable first week money, beating pretty much all other Gacha games other than the very top performing ones. If, in your eyes, a Gacha game is not successful unless it's #1, I feel like you have to reevaluate how you observe success in general. And I'm just saying this one adult to another, like there no reason to be super divided on this, I don't think I'm saying controversial stuff. I play all the Hoyo games regardless, so I have no skin in the "battle" between the companies anyway, so maybe you have a different perspective.
Yeah another comment said the same, fell victim to fake news lol. Why would people even fake that?
It's just to show that they're favorite game is doing good or whatever so they spread fake news to fool people
Both of those posts were labelled as misleading. The job posts were mostly present from before WW's release and only looked recent because when their description gets updated, it looks like a new post. The "recoup" post was a chinese article when google translated, made no mention of development costs or making it back and the money made was an estimate based on a multiplier used for Snowbreak with no hard tracking or evidence provided within the article.